Casais das Flores e do Corvo no longer in Amazon - new book coming soon

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João Ventura

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Jun 7, 2017, 9:00:48 AM6/7/17
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Hi everyone,

Some good news (and bad) for all those doing research in Flores. Francisco Gomes will release a new book in mid-July during the Festa do Emigrante.

The bad news is that as preparation for this, he pulled the "Casais das Flores e do Corvo" ebook from Amazon. It seems it's still available in iTunes and Barnes&Noble, but he may pull them out of there as well. If you ever do research in Flores, I recommend that you get the ebook while it's still available: https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/casais-das-flores-e-do-corvo/id588378486 https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/casais-das-flores-e-do-corvo-francisco-gomes/1114254163?ean=9789892034348

Best regards,

João C. Ventura

Cheri Mello

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Jun 7, 2017, 11:21:51 AM6/7/17
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He didn't say what the new book was about, did he? Or do we just need to wait until July?

Cheri Mello
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robertjm

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Jun 8, 2017, 3:05:31 AM6/8/17
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Cross our fingers. Maybe it will be Part II of the first book he put out in paperback. Supposedly, it had been very close to completion for a while now.

If so, I hope he surprises us with an eBook version of the first one as well, though I won't hold my breath.

Cheri Mello

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Jun 8, 2017, 8:50:59 AM6/8/17
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The "Casais das Flores e Corvo" (The Couples of Flores and Corvo) or the Flores marriage book took the marriages from the beginning to 1911. So book 2 would go from 1912-1916?  Or is this a book of baptisms or something else?

There were eBooks of the Flores marriage book. João C. Ventura (NOT the archivist) convinced Francisco Gomes to release it in that format on a couple of different sites. Salt Lake City has it in the eBook version. I'll have to find the original post later where the eBook formats were.

NOTE to New People: This list has 1600? 1700? people on it. At this point we have more than one John, Pat, Shirley, Robert, etc. And we have more than one João Ventura. One João Ventura is an archivist. He signs his name João Ventura. He's the one that does research for hire and works in the archives on Tereira. The João making this post is João C. Ventura, a computer programmer or software engineer. He signs his name as João C. Ventura. Think "C" for computers. Hope that helps to keep them straight.

João Ventura

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Jun 8, 2017, 12:42:10 PM6/8/17
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Hi all,

I honestly know nothing other than the what Francisco Gomes told me: the name of the book, which is "Genealogias da Ilha das Flores (Açores)". Looking for it, I also got this blog post where he asks for data on living persons: http://ailhadasflores.blogspot.de/2014/08/genealogias-das-flores-um-projeto-que.html

The book will be released in the "Festa do Emigrante" in  Lajes das Flores, which will be held July 14 to July 17. He will probably be able to sign the book in person to anyone attending the "Festa".  But note that Flores has scarce available accommodation, and it will probably be full already (although, airbnb is your friend :) ). The book is published by the Camara Municipal of Lajes das Flores. So it will be paper-only. And you won't find it available for sale in any website (not even theirs...). When I get some more data, I'll post it here.

The "Casais das Flores" as ebook, has one major advantage over the paper version: you can press Ctrl+F and do a full-content search. In a book like this, think of the ebook as getting a copy of his database. So if you were planning to eventually buy the ebook, but haven't gotten around to it yet, do it ASAP, as it will be gone as fast as the Apple or B&N receive his request to remote it:


As Robert indicated,  Francisco Gomes already did a family-centered book a long time ago for the Lajes das Flores + Fazenda + Lajedo parishes. This time, it probably covers the entire island. Not many people have part 1, so it probably makes no sense to publish part 2, 20 years later.

Best regards,

João C. Ventura

Jeremy G. B-C

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Jun 8, 2017, 3:52:25 PM6/8/17
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Based on something k read online, it is my impression that the new version is more of a genealogy of the islands, incorporating both marriages and births, and grouped by families.

Jeremy

Liz Migliori

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Jun 9, 2017, 12:03:46 AM6/9/17
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All the islands

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Cheri Mello

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Jun 9, 2017, 12:09:34 AM6/9/17
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No Jeremy and Liz, go back and reread what Joao C. Ventura wrote. The new title is "Genealogias da Ilha das Flores (Açores)." That translates to "Genealogies of the Island of Flores (Azores)." So no, not all 9 islands. ONE island - Flores.

Jeremy G. B-C

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Jun 9, 2017, 12:52:13 AM6/9/17
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Correct. When I said Island(s) plural I was referring to Flores and Corvo.

Jeremy

Doris

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Jun 9, 2017, 1:24:07 AM6/9/17
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Ok

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On 8 Jun 2017 9:32 pm, "'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy" <azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Correct. When I said Island(s) plural I was referring to Flores and Corvo.

Jeremy

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Liz Migliori

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Jun 9, 2017, 3:55:22 PM6/9/17
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Lol got a little excited there

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luiznoia .

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Jun 10, 2017, 7:45:23 PM6/10/17
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The first book covered the families of Lajes concelho. The new one should cover Santa Cruz concelho.

On Jun 9, 2017 12:55 PM, "Liz Migliori" <lizm...@gmail.com> wrote:
Lol got a little excited there

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On Jun 8, 2017, at 9:09 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsc...@gmail.com> wrote:

No Jeremy and Liz, go back and reread what Joao C. Ventura wrote. The new title is "Genealogias da Ilha das Flores (Açores)." That translates to "Genealogies of the Island of Flores (Azores)." So no, not all 9 islands. ONE island - Flores.

Cheri Mello
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João Ventura

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Jun 12, 2017, 7:08:09 AM6/12/17
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Hi Eric,

The new book is published by the Lajes City Hall.. There's no way that it won't include Lajes again.

He never got the funds from the Santa Cruz City Hall to proceed with Vol. 2, 20 years ago (you can read his resentment for that in the preface for the Casais book).

João


On Sunday, 11 June 2017 01:45:23 UTC+2, luiznoia wrote:
The first book covered the families of Lajes concelho. The new one should cover Santa Cruz concelho.
On Jun 9, 2017 12:55 PM, "Liz Migliori" <lizm...@gmail.com> wrote:
Lol got a little excited there

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On Jun 8, 2017, at 9:09 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsc...@gmail.com> wrote:

No Jeremy and Liz, go back and reread what Joao C. Ventura wrote. The new title is "Genealogias da Ilha das Flores (Açores)." That translates to "Genealogies of the Island of Flores (Azores)." So no, not all 9 islands. ONE island - Flores.

Cheri Mello
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João Ventura

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Jul 5, 2017, 12:41:31 PM7/5/17
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Got some updated info.

The book will be released in July 14th at 20:00. Apparently it costs €10.. I'll reserve my judgment on this price once I get my hands on it.

I've asked Lajes City Hall for details on how to order outside of Portugal.

João

Cheri Mello

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Jul 5, 2017, 12:43:43 PM7/5/17
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Thank you! Keep us posted! I will ask Family Search to obtain a copy too.

Cheri Mello
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Margaret Vicente

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Jul 5, 2017, 1:26:09 PM7/5/17
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Thank you, Joao.


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luiznoia .

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Jul 17, 2017, 9:47:49 PM7/17/17
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Ron da Silva just sent word from Flores, he attended the book dedication.

It is 782 pages , covering the Concelho of Santa Cruz.

Eric Edgar

Rosemarie Capodicci

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Jul 17, 2017, 9:58:41 PM7/17/17
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Thanks, Eric! 

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

Jeremy G. B-C: Researching Sao Jorge

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Jul 21, 2017, 6:36:14 PM7/21/17
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UPDATE:

For those who wish to order the new book, the Camara will take orders by email the book is 10 euros. Postage to the US may be as much as 14 euros.
You can email them in english at ge...@cmlajesdasflores.pt  use the subject: Purchase book: Genealogies da Ilha Das Flores by Francisco Gomes

Tell them how many copies you want and give your mailing address with Zip code, They will find the shipping cost to your address and respond with the total price to you, then they will providee the IBAN number of their account here.

Information and photo of the book are courtesey of Ron de Silva


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Jeremy

Rosemarie Capodicci

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Jul 21, 2017, 7:08:50 PM7/21/17
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Thanks, Jeremy. 

Rosemarie
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linda

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Jul 22, 2017, 10:36:06 PM7/22/17
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Thanks Jeremy!

:D

Linda

João Ventura

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Aug 18, 2017, 1:06:23 PM8/18/17
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Just got the book (finally).

It covers all the island. In comparison with the Casais book, it doesn't include Corvo, and it re-organizes all the data in a classical descendents report format.

I'm attaching an image of some people that may ring a bell to you Eric.

My opinion of it? It should be an ebook... I want to search names, and I don't want to read and turn 782 pages each time.

Thankfully, the author seems to have realized that it's better to leave the book in amazon, so I'd still recommend to buy that one as well: https://www.amazon.com/Casais-das-Flores-Corvo-Portuguese-ebook/dp/B00AQAOOF6

During the process to buy the book, I got a list from the Lajes city hall that indicates they have a lot of other of Francisco Gomes's books still for sale in the dead tree version.

Best regards,

João Ventura


Thank you, Joao.



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