Obit margin help Joam Pimentel quemado

[Janet Carminati]

Hello all,
Could anyone assist with this Obit record - specifically what is written in the margin under Joam Pimentel? His name in other records is usually Joam Pimentel quemado and quemado is never capitalized - does that signify anything? Additionally can someone confirm he was born in Flores, church of S Pedro (in agreement with other records)? Finally who is Anna de Freitas mentioned towards the bottom?

http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-O-1784-1802/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-O-1784-1802_item1/P103.html

Thank you for any help!
Janet

[Gonçalo Marques]

Queimado means burned

Maybe he had a burned scar... 

Cheers 

Gonçalo 

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[William Seidler]

The margin note looks like it might be dos Ramos (written mor like raMos).  Was he born near a Palm Sunday?  In the text though it does say queimado just as you said other records give.  I believe he is 54 years old (more or less) and it say he is natural and resident of this parish of Nossa Senhora dos Remidios in Fajazinha.  I can't make everything out but I think on line 6 it gives his testementeiro (executor of his will or estate?) his wife Mariana de Freitas and later makes reference to something for the soul of his first wife Anna de Freitas.

Hopefully this helps and that someone better corrects any mistakes I may have made.

Bill Seidler

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Janet,

Queimado means burnt, sunburnt, tanned so maybe it's his alcunha (nickname). Perhaps he was out in the sun a lot and was very tanned. 

Rosemarie

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[William Seidler]

Here is the second marriage of the same João Pimentel.  This one says he is natural of São Pedro, Ponta Delagda, Flores, just as you had indicated.  Either I misread the birthplace in his obit or the priest was mistaken.

Bill Seidler

On Sunday, July 14, 2019 at 12:42:47 PM UTC-7, Janet Carminati wrote:

[Janet Carminati]

Thank you all for the insights and help!

William - i believe below is the second marriage to Mariana de Freitas you are referring to. I have not found his first marriage yet but believe they had at least one child, Antonio from other records I have come across.
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-C-1767-1833/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-C-1767-1833_item1/P98.html

Bill - I have found his birth record in S. Pedro of Ponte Delgado, Flores below and he was born Oct 31, 1739, so not near Palm Sunday.
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1727-1757/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1727-1757_item1/P54.html

His parents are Joao Pimentel and Maria de Almeide? (abbreviated to Almda) and their marriage record is:
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-C-1675-1801/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-C-1675-1801_item1/P90.html
I cannot make out the parent(s) listed for João - might end in George - can anyone decipher that name?

Thanks again,
Janet

[William Seidler]

Hi Janet,

I am sorry I neglected to post the link for his second marriage, but glad that you found it anyway.

I don't see Joao's parents listed in the marriage to Maria de Almeida.  He is widower of Esperança George (I think).  You would have to find his first marriage to get his parents' names.

Bill Seidler

[William Seidler]

Here is the second Joao's first marriage in 1765:  http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-C-1742-1767/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-C-1742-1767_item1/P93.html

Here is the first Joao's first marriage in 1728. http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-C-1675-1801/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-C-1675-1801_item1/P86.html  I read his parents as Baltazar Pimentel and his wife Maria Rosa de Freitas.  He is marrying Esperança Rosa, daughter of Manuel Martins and Esperança George.

Bill Seidler

[Janet Carminati]

Thanks so much Bill for the links to the additional marriage records and translation of the family names - this is really helpful! I will keep looking further back and see what I find.

- Janet

[Janet Carminati]

Hello all,

Can anyone make out where Balthezar Pimental is from in the below baptism record for his daughter Maria?  From his marriage record, his parent's or his wife's parents are from Lajedo Flores (Nossa Senhora dos Milagres).

http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1675-1711/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1675-1711_item1/P123.html

Also, is the last name Rois an abbreviation for Rodrigues - I saw this listed in one record, but wasn't sure if that was unusual.

thank you,

Janet

[Cheri Mello]

Baltazar is a native of the island of Corvo. The mom is from this same freguesia (meaning the one Maria is baptized in).

Roiz/Rois is an abbreviation for Rodrigues.

Cheri Mello
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[Janet Carminati]

Thank you Cheri for the info.  First time i've seen someone from another island marry into the Pimentel family on Flores - i've read earlier posts about island hopping and interesting topic.

Janet

On Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 10:40:21 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:

Baltazar is a native of the island of Corvo. The mom is from this same freguesia (meaning the one Maria is baptized in).

Roiz/Rois is an abbreviation for Rodrigues.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 7:37 PM Janet Carminati <jcarmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello all,

Can anyone make out where Balthezar Pimental is from in the below baptism record for his daughter Maria?  From his marriage record, his parent's or his wife's parents are from Lajedo Flores (Nossa Senhora dos Milagres).

http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1675-1711/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1675-1711_item1/P123.html

Also, is the last name Rois an abbreviation for Rodrigues - I saw this listed in one record, but wasn't sure if that was unusual.

thank you,

Janet

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[Cheri Mello]

Flores and Corvo are only a couple of miles apart.

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