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Lester S. Garrett

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Nov 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/1/96
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On Fri, 01 Nov 1996 01:37:43 GMT pa...@netzone.com wrote in
az.general:

>
> I can't believe the bold-faced lies Democrats like Steve Owens and
> Bill Clinton are getting away with!

Why not? Richard Nixon wasn't bad at it himself.

> Are the American people stupid enough to believe the Democrat lies?
> It looks like it...

No, when it comes to a liar they probably prefer to have the real
thing to his pale Republican copy. A good choice actually.

The good news is that Dole will lose. The bad news, Clinton wins.

-={lsg}=-

Lester S. Garrett

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James J. Lippard

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In article <327a538d...@news.netzone.com>, <pa...@netzone.com> wrote:
>
>I can't believe the bold-faced lies Democrats like Steve Owens and
>Bill Clinton are getting away with! Freedom of the press was
>originally given to combat just such actions and the press are the
>worst of the bunch.
>
>Are the American people stupid enough to believe the Democrat lies?
>It looks like it...

Nah, most people don't buy the Democrat lies or the Republican lies--they
just vote for which they consider to be the lesser of the two evils.

BTW, the expression is "bald-faced lies."
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Jim Lippard lippard@(primenet.com ediacara.org skeptic.com)
Phoenix, Arizona http://www.primenet.com/~lippard/
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James J. Lippard

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Nov 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/1/96
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In article <327aa3c...@news.netzone.com>, <pa...@netzone.com> wrote:
>I'm not sure what this means but if you're saying that republicans are
>liars too, lokk again. Look at the '94 freshman class. Before they
>were elected, they said that they would do certain things and after
>they were elected, THEY DID THOSE THINGS!

Are you talking about the Contract with America
(http://www.house.gov/CONTRACT.html)? If so, you're wrong, as usual.
Take a look at the list.

Also check out http://www.telusys.com/contract/contract.html, which
is United We Stand America's evaluation of the Contract with America.

Karl Dussik

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Nov 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/2/96
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l...@xroads.com (Lester S. Garrett) writes:

>On Fri, 01 Nov 1996 01:37:43 GMT pa...@netzone.com wrote in
>az.general:

> >

> > I can't believe the bold-faced lies Democrats like Steve Owens and
> > Bill Clinton are getting away with!

>Why not? Richard Nixon wasn't bad at it himself.

Exactly!

But, I thought the American people - certainly the liberal media and
academia - had come to the conclusion that Nixon fell below the minimum
standards required for the Presidency. He was certainly not the subject
of impeachment hearings because the economy wasn't good enough.

It would appear, however, that these standards only apply to Republicans.
The standard for Democrats is much lower.

To some extent, this is to be expected. But it is a scathing indictment
of the American people that they are about to reelect the most venal,
immoral, hypocritical, lying scumbag ever to occupy the White House (and
that probably includes all those overnight visitors who got to spend the
night in the Lincoln Room in exchange for a few hundred grand in campaign
contributions).

> > Are the American people stupid enough to believe the Democrat lies?
> > It looks like it...

>No, when it comes to a liar they probably prefer to have the real


>thing to his pale Republican copy. A good choice actually.

"You know the President is an unusually good liar, unusually good."
Sen. Bob Kerrey (D-NE), in Esquire Magazine, January 1996, later explaining,
"It was not an angry comment. It was actually intended as an off-handed
compliment." - Omaha World Herald, 2/5/96

>The good news is that Dole will lose. The bad news, Clinton wins.

The real bad news - the country, and especially our children, lose.

Richard Nixon: "I am not a crook."

Bill Clinton: "I am a crook, but so what?"

Bill Clinton: the more evil of two lessers - by far.

Karl | Standard disclaimer: Speaking only for myself.
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"Nixon was accused of withholding documents, accused of a coverup, accused of
obstructing justice and lying to the American people. You know, that just
goes to show you he was really ahead of his time. Today that gets you
reelected." - Jay Leno, 8/9/96

BP

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Nov 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/2/96
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In article <E089I...@anasazi.com>, ka...@anasazi.com says...

>
>
>To some extent, this is to be expected. But it is a scathing indictment
>of the American people that they are about to reelect the most venal,
>immoral, hypocritical, lying scumbag ever to occupy the White House (and
>that probably includes all those overnight visitors who got to spend the
>night in the Lincoln Room in exchange for a few hundred grand in campaign
>contributions).

When you find yourself in total disagreement with those around you
it is wise to consider that you MIGHT be wrong. You might even
be insane. The reality is, FOUR MORE YEARS!! Deal with it.


Alan Otteson

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Nov 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/4/96
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James J. Lippard wrote:
>
> In article <327aa3c...@news.netzone.com>, <pa...@netzone.com> wrote:
> >I'm not sure what this means but if you're saying that republicans are
> >liars too, lokk again. Look at the '94 freshman class. Before they
> >were elected, they said that they would do certain things and after
> >they were elected, THEY DID THOSE THINGS!
>
> Are you talking about the Contract with America
> (http://www.house.gov/CONTRACT.html)? If so, you're wrong, as usual.
> Take a look at the list.
>
> Also check out http://www.telusys.com/contract/contract.html, which
> is United We Stand America's evaluation of the Contract with America.

I checked out most of the web pages referenced by Mr. Lippard. If indeed all
those bills did come before Congress then I'd conclude the Contract with
America was fulfilled in it's entirety and the '94 freshman class really
did what they said they would.


>
> --
> Jim Lippard lippard@(primenet.com ediacara.org skeptic.com)
> Phoenix, Arizona http://www.primenet.com/~lippard/

--
Alan Otteson
Phoenix, AZ

James J. Lippard

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Nov 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/4/96
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In article <327E18...@agcs.com>, Alan Otteson <otte...@agcs.com> wrote:
>James J. Lippard wrote:
>>
>> In article <327aa3c...@news.netzone.com>, <pa...@netzone.com> wrote:
>> >I'm not sure what this means but if you're saying that republicans are
>> >liars too, lokk again. Look at the '94 freshman class. Before they
>> >were elected, they said that they would do certain things and after
>> >they were elected, THEY DID THOSE THINGS!
>>
>> Are you talking about the Contract with America
>> (http://www.house.gov/CONTRACT.html)? If so, you're wrong, as usual.
>> Take a look at the list.
>>
>> Also check out http://www.telusys.com/contract/contract.html, which
>> is United We Stand America's evaluation of the Contract with America.
>
>I checked out most of the web pages referenced by Mr. Lippard. If indeed all
>those bills did come before Congress then I'd conclude the Contract with
>America was fulfilled in it's entirety and the '94 freshman class really
>did what they said they would.

Many, if not most, were defeated. We have no balanced budget amendment,
for instance.

Ted Krueger

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Nov 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/4/96
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In article <55la4p$c...@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>,

James J. Lippard <lip...@primenet.com> wrote:
>In article <327E18...@agcs.com>, Alan Otteson <otte...@agcs.com> wrote:

>>I checked out most of the web pages referenced by Mr. Lippard. If indeed all
>>those bills did come before Congress then I'd conclude the Contract with
>>America was fulfilled in it's entirety and the '94 freshman class really
>>did what they said they would.

>Many, if not most, were defeated. We have no balanced budget amendment,
>for instance.

The Contract With America did not, anywhere, say that they guaranteed
those items would pass. They guaranteed that they would bring those
things up for a vote.

With a guy like Clinton holding the veto pen, the Repubs knew and
admitted that they could not guarantee passage.

I now directly quote from the contract web page:

Thereafter, within the first 100 days of the 104th Congress, we shall
bring to the House Floor the following bills, each to be given full
and open debate, each to be given a clear and fair vote and each to
be immediately available this day for public inspection and scrutiny.

--
Ted Krueger What kind of a whacko does it take to
ITS Staff Engineer post to misc.test every day?
AG Communication Systems
krue...@agcs.com

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