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Benghazi - A flavored coffee drink that no one cares about !

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May 17, 2013, 9:32:06 AM5/17/13
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Just listen to these k0oks .. they are like wild monkeys
throwing shit everywhere and see if it sticks !


hohohohohohhohoho;



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May 17, 2013, 9:39:23 AM5/17/13
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On Fri, 17 May 2013 08:32:06 -0500, "Benghazi - A flavored coffee
drink that no one cares about !" <lo...@killer.xcm> wrote:

>
>Just listen to these k0oks .. they are like wild monkeys
>throwing shit everywhere and see if it sticks !

And it seems to be sticking.....

WASHINGTON -- The scandal at the Internal Revenue Service goes far
beyond the treatment of Tea Party groups and includes larger issues of
abuse of power, the chairman of the House's chief tax-writing
committee said at an oversight hearing Friday morning.

"With all due respect, this systematic abuse cannot be fixed with just
one resignation, or two," said Rep. Dave Camp, R. Mich., who chairs
the House Ways and Means Committee. "This is not a personnel problem.
This is a problem of the IRS being too large, to intrusive, to
abusive."

"It looks like the truth was hidden to the American people just long
enough to make it through and election," Camp said.

The top Democrat Rep. Sandy Levin, D-Mich., said he, too, wanted to
find out why the IRS targeted conservative groups for extra scrutiny,
and that IRS officials responsible should be fired.

Friday, May 17, 2013

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday
shows that 48% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Obama's job
performance. Fifty-one percent (51%) now disapprove.

a425couple

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May 17, 2013, 10:50:28 AM5/17/13
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"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message...
> "Benghazi - A flavored coffee " <lo...@killer.xcm> wrote:
>>Just listen to these k0oks .. they are like wild monkeys
>>throwing shit everywhere and see if it sticks !
>
> And it seems to be sticking.....
> WASHINGTON -- The scandal at the Internal Revenue Service goes far
> beyond the treatment of Tea Party groups and includes larger issues of
> abuse of power ----

Since even Jon Stewart has started considerable criticism,
("Tears Apart Obama: You Can't Keep Saying You Found Out
About News At The Same Time As Us!")

I suppose the OP is now considering him a "kook" ?

Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E

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May 17, 2013, 11:19:31 AM5/17/13
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On May 17, 8:32 am, "Benghazi - A flavored coffee drink that no one
cares about !" <l...@killer.xcm> wrote:
> Just listen to these k0oks .. they are like wild monkeys
> throwing shit everywhere and see if it sticks !
>
> hohohohohohhohoho;
>
> --
> ---
>
> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_NUZ_fM-TQKQ/Sf9PJCiSbLI/AAAAAAAANYI/wzO53Xg...
>
> SAVE AMERICA!!
>
> Spay or neuter
> your Republican!!
> --
> --> Slow thinkers --> Stay Right

The Obama Regime produces plenty of "shit" to throw. A consequence of
letting government grow so big it's completely out of control.

The NAZI Party in America today is represented by the GOP

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May 17, 2013, 11:30:26 AM5/17/13
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On 5/17/2013 10:19 AM, Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
wrote:
> On May 17, 8:32 am, "Benghazi - A flavored coffee drink that no one
> cares about !" <l...@killer.xcm> wrote:
>> Just listen to these k0oks .. they are like wild monkeys
>> throwing shit everywhere and see if it sticks !
>>
>> hohohohohohhohoho;
>>
>
> The Obama Regime produces plenty of "shit" to throw. A consequence of
> letting government grow so big it's completely out of control.
>

The president doesn't micro-manager every employee in government.

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RD Sandman

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May 17, 2013, 11:50:39 AM5/17/13
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The NAZI Party in America today is represented by the GOP
<GOPNaz...@poo.com> wrote in news:51964d12$0$12747$bbae4d71
@news.suddenlink.net:

> On 5/17/2013 10:19 AM, Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
> wrote:
>> On May 17, 8:32 am, "Benghazi - A flavored coffee drink that no one
>> cares about !" <l...@killer.xcm> wrote:
>>> Just listen to these k0oks .. they are like wild monkeys
>>> throwing shit everywhere and see if it sticks !
>>>
>>> hohohohohohhohoho;
>>>
>>
>> The Obama Regime produces plenty of "shit" to throw. A consequence of
>> letting government grow so big it's completely out of control.
>>
>
> The president doesn't micro-manager every employee in government.
>

Perhaps then, the government has become too big if the head lizard
doesn't know what his departments are doing.

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May 17, 2013, 12:00:44 PM5/17/13
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On May 17, 6:32 am, "Benghazi - A flavored coffee drink that no one
cares about !" <l...@killer.xcm> wrote:
> Just listen to these k0oks .. they are like wild monkeys
> throwing shit everywhere and see if it sticks !
>
> hohohohohohhohoho;
>
> --
> ---
>
> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_NUZ_fM-TQKQ/Sf9PJCiSbLI/AAAAAAAANYI/wzO53Xg...
>
> SAVE AMERICA!!
>
> Spay or neuter
> your Republican!!
> --
> --> Slow thinkers --> Stay Right

The whole thing is a huge waste of resources. The IRS and Benghazi
situations will dry up and pass like a "fart in the wind". Nobody will
get indicted, nothing will get accomplished. The game is anyone who is
called to Congress uses the classic terms like "I don't recall", "Let
me get back to you with that" and the classic "I don't remember". What
a joke.

Jeff M

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May 17, 2013, 1:23:33 PM5/17/13
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The Benghazi matter is a nothing-burger, merely an attempt to smear
Obama and Hillary Clinton. The White House already released the e-mails
that prove it. However, it's very damning that the Republicans had
already released altered versions of those same e-mails. The IRS matter
is very serious, but the IG report already shows how it happened and who
did it, and there is absolutely no connection to the White House.
Republican allegations that Obama was using the IRS to suppress right
wing groups is simply a cynical partisan lie. The AP situation is also
a serious matter that requires further investigation. Most probably,
it's past time for Holder to be fired.


Jeff M

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May 17, 2013, 1:26:44 PM5/17/13
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On 5/17/2013 10:50 AM, RD Sandman wrote:
> The NAZI Party in America today is represented by the GOP
> <GOPNaz...@poo.com> wrote in news:51964d12$0$12747$bbae4d71
> @news.suddenlink.net:
>
>> On 5/17/2013 10:19 AM, Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
>> wrote:
>>> On May 17, 8:32 am, "Benghazi - A flavored coffee drink that no one
>>> cares about !" <l...@killer.xcm> wrote:
>>>> Just listen to these k0oks .. they are like wild monkeys
>>>> throwing shit everywhere and see if it sticks !
>>>>
>>>> hohohohohohhohoho;
>>>>
>>>
>>> The Obama Regime produces plenty of "shit" to throw. A consequence of
>>> letting government grow so big it's completely out of control.
>>>
>>
>> The president doesn't micro-manager every employee in government.
>>
> Perhaps then, the government has become too big if the head lizard
> doesn't know what his departments are doing.


It's a common defensive argument of people running large institutions
where some wrongful act allegedly occurred, like corporate managers and
directors.

A government so small that the single lead executive can keep track of
everything and everyone would not be able to function at all. It's a
ridiculous idea.

Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E

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May 17, 2013, 1:59:41 PM5/17/13
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On May 17, 10:30 am, The NAZI Party in America today is represented by
the GOP <GOPNaziKil...@poo.com> wrote:
> On 5/17/2013 10:19 AM, Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
> wrote:
>
> > On May 17, 8:32 am, "Benghazi - A flavored coffee drink that no one
> > cares about !" <l...@killer.xcm> wrote:
> >> Just listen to these k0oks .. they are like wild monkeys
> >> throwing shit everywhere and see if it sticks !
>
> >> hohohohohohhohoho;
>
> > The Obama Regime produces plenty of "shit" to throw. A consequence of
> > letting government grow so big it's completely out of control.
>
> The president doesn't micro-manager every employee in government.
>
> --

The President was expected to do just that when Bush was POTUS. WTF
happened?? Is Obama just passing through? Is he simply there for the
bennies?? WTF is his job any fucking how? I know. I'm a racist.

Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E

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May 17, 2013, 2:00:40 PM5/17/13
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> it's past time for Holder to be fired.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

So, tell us. Where was Obama during the entire Benghazi attack??

Gloom and doom .. the only NOISE from the Party of No!

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May 17, 2013, 2:31:03 PM5/17/13
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On 5/17/2013 10:50 AM, RD Sandman wrote:
>> The president doesn't micro-manager every employee in government.
>>
>
> Perhaps then, the government has become too big if the head lizard
> doesn't know what his departments are doing.
>

as were the mortgage scams that crashed the US market in 2007 .



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May 17, 2013, 2:35:15 PM5/17/13
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On 5/17/2013 1:00 PM, Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
wrote:

>
> So, tell us. Where was Obama during the entire Benghazi attack??
>



Who gives a shit. There is a entire infrastructure that has the
responsibilities of babysitting CIA operatives who were spying
in a foreign country ... they knew the risks and the game .. that
is why they had security special ops with them.

Billy

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May 17, 2013, 2:40:01 PM5/17/13
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In article
<8d52fcce-5a11-4531...@n11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
"Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
<burto...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On May 17, 8:32�am, "Benghazi - A flavored coffee drink that no one
> cares about !" <l...@killer.xcm> wrote:
> > Just listen to these k0oks .. they are like wild monkeys
> > throwing shit everywhere and see if it sticks !
> >
> > hohohohohohhohoho;
> >
> > --
> > ---
> >
> > http://4.bp.blogspot.com/ NUZ fM-TQKQ/Sf9PJCiSbLI/AAAAAAAANYI/wzO53Xg...
> >
> > SAVE AMERICA!!
> >
> > Spay or neuter
> > your Republican!!
> > --
> > --> Slow thinkers --> Stay Right
>
> The Obama Regime produces plenty of "shit" to throw. A consequence of
> letting government grow so big it's completely out of control.

You really think that there is any difference between the DNC, and the
RNC except for style points?

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May 17, 2013, 2:42:02 PM5/17/13
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On May 17, 12:23 pm, Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote:
> it's past time for Holder to be fired.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I agree.

In regards to Holder, no opinion since I have not been following it.

Especially funny how the Republicans doctored the emails..let's have
an investigation on that!

The most serious aspect of this conservative BS...many more important
issues need to be addressed and are not being fixed.


The Republican bloodbath of 2014 can't happen soon enough.

TMT

Billy

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May 17, 2013, 2:47:46 PM5/17/13
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In article <51964d12$0$12747$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
The NAZI Party in America today is represented by the GOP
<GOPNaz...@poo.com> wrote:

> On 5/17/2013 10:19 AM, Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
> wrote:
> > On May 17, 8:32 am, "Benghazi - A flavored coffee drink that no one
> > cares about !" <l...@killer.xcm> wrote:
> >> Just listen to these k0oks .. they are like wild monkeys
> >> throwing shit everywhere and see if it sticks !
> >>
> >> hohohohohohhohoho;
> >>
> >
> > The Obama Regime produces plenty of "shit" to throw. A consequence of
> > letting government grow so big it's completely out of control.
> >
>
> The president doesn't micro-manager every employee in government.

�The true danger is when Liberty is nibbled away, for expedients.�
- Edmund Burke (1899)

Klaus Schadenfreude

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May 17, 2013, 3:01:32 PM5/17/13
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On Fri, 17 May 2013 13:35:15 -0500, FEMA Rendition Camps Czar
<fea...@poo.com> wrote:

>There is a entire infrastructure that has the
>responsibilities of babysitting CIA operatives who were spying
>in a foreign country

CIA OPERATIVES SPYING IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY???????

Really?

Who have you told about this?

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Klaus Schadenfreude

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May 17, 2013, 3:02:22 PM5/17/13
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On Fri, 17 May 2013 11:40:01 -0700, Billy <wild...@withouta.net>
wrote:

>In article
><8d52fcce-5a11-4531...@n11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
> "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
> <burto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On May 17, 8:32�am, "Benghazi - A flavored coffee drink that no one
>> cares about !" <l...@killer.xcm> wrote:
>> > Just listen to these k0oks .. they are like wild monkeys
>> > throwing shit everywhere and see if it sticks !
>> >
>> > hohohohohohhohoho;
>> >
>> > --
>> > ---
>> >
>> > http://4.bp.blogspot.com/ NUZ fM-TQKQ/Sf9PJCiSbLI/AAAAAAAANYI/wzO53Xg...
>> >
>> > SAVE AMERICA!!
>> >
>> > Spay or neuter
>> > your Republican!!
>> > --
>> > --> Slow thinkers --> Stay Right
>>
>> The Obama Regime produces plenty of "shit" to throw. A consequence of
>> letting government grow so big it's completely out of control.
>
>You really think that there is any difference between the DNC, and the
>RNC except for style points?

Of course they do.

RD Sandman

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May 17, 2013, 4:07:04 PM5/17/13
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Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in
news:poKdnXIpApHK9QvM...@giganews.com:

> On 5/17/2013 10:50 AM, RD Sandman wrote:
>> The NAZI Party in America today is represented by the GOP
>> <GOPNaz...@poo.com> wrote in news:51964d12$0$12747$bbae4d71
>> @news.suddenlink.net:
>>
>>> On 5/17/2013 10:19 AM, Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey
rd.,Wilmington,D.E
>>> wrote:
>>>> On May 17, 8:32 am, "Benghazi - A flavored coffee drink that no one
>>>> cares about !" <l...@killer.xcm> wrote:
>>>>> Just listen to these k0oks .. they are like wild monkeys
>>>>> throwing shit everywhere and see if it sticks !
>>>>>
>>>>> hohohohohohhohoho;
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Obama Regime produces plenty of "shit" to throw. A consequence
of
>>>> letting government grow so big it's completely out of control.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The president doesn't micro-manager every employee in government.
>>>
>> Perhaps then, the government has become too big if the head lizard
>> doesn't know what his departments are doing.
>
>
> It's a common defensive argument of people running large institutions
> where some wrongful act allegedly occurred, like corporate managers and
> directors.

Which doesn't make it correct. As I learned when I was in management, if
there is a problem in a department and the department manager doesn't fix
it, you get a new department manager. You don't promote the old one.

> A government so small that the single lead executive can keep track of
> everything and everyone would not be able to function at all. It's a
> ridiculous idea.

Now, just where did I say that, Jeff? I said if he didn't know what his
departments were doing. It is up to those department managers to keep
the department running correctly. The single lead executive has to know
how the business as a whole is doing. You do that by making sure that
each department is being managed correctly. As you go down the chain,
the overview gets smaller and the details get bigger.

RD Sandman

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" Gloom and doom .. the only NOISE from the Party of No!" <do...@poo.com>
wrote in news:51967767$0$12790$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net:

> On 5/17/2013 10:50 AM, RD Sandman wrote:
>>> The president doesn't micro-manager every employee in government.
>>>
>>
>> Perhaps then, the government has become too big if the head lizard
>> doesn't know what his departments are doing.
>>
>
> as were the mortgage scams that crashed the US market in 2007 .

Those mortgage problems had their genesis in deregulation over the last
30 years.

RD Sandman

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May 17, 2013, 4:13:02 PM5/17/13
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Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in
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Care to post a cite where you got that Benghazi, IRS and AP matter from,
Jeff? I have been following it rather cursorily in the newspapers and on
the telly, but I haven't seen where it is stated that the Republicans
deliberately altered the Emails. I don't think that Obama hisself was
involved in the IRS thing but the firing of its head was pure theater
since Steven Miller would have had to leave that post in about three
weeks anyway.

Jeff M

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May 17, 2013, 4:33:17 PM5/17/13
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It all over the media. Take your pick. You might want to take a look
at the IRS Inspector General's report, too.

I have been following it rather cursorily in the newspapers and on
> the telly, but I haven't seen where it is stated that the Republicans
> deliberately altered the Emails.

Funny ain't it, since the MSM is supposedly so all in the tank for
Obama? Just Google "Republicans altered e-mails" for multiple cites.

> I don't think that Obama hisself was
> involved in the IRS thing but the firing of its head was pure theater
> since Steven Miller would have had to leave that post in about three
> weeks anyway.

Oh? What do you suppose Issa and the boys are up to? It's ALL theater.
If Obama had not fired him, your side will be all up in arms over
that, as well. At least by demanding his resignation, his record is
blemished before he can quietly slip back into relative obscurity. So
I'd say Obama's action was a decent start, and had some some actual
meaning and impact.


Jeff M

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May 17, 2013, 4:49:42 PM5/17/13
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I agree.

>> A government so small that the single lead executive can keep track of
>> everything and everyone would not be able to function at all. It's a
>> ridiculous idea.
>
> Now, just where did I say that, Jeff?

I didn't say you did. However, many Republican politicians and
right-wing talking heads are trying to claim that Obama was either
behind the IRS misconduct for political purposes or should have known
what those individuals responsible, as identified in the IG report, were
doing and stopped them.

> I said if he didn't know what his
> departments were doing. It is up to those department managers to keep
> the department running correctly. The single lead executive has to know
> how the business as a whole is doing. You do that by making sure that
> each department is being managed correctly. As you go down the chain,
> the overview gets smaller and the details get bigger.

Yep. That's why Obama forced the IRS director to resign.

Pythagoras

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Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in
news:d8SdnenNO8SNCQvM...@giganews.com:
See the comment just below that was a continutino of what you quoted? I
have been following it but have not seen where the Republicans were
proven to have altered the Emails. That is what I was asking for.

Take your pick. You might want to take a look
> at the IRS Inspector General's report, too.

Do you have a cite? Or haven't you read it either?

> I have been following it rather cursorily in the newspapers and on
>> the telly, but I haven't seen where it is stated that the Republicans
>> deliberately altered the Emails.
>
> Funny ain't it, since the MSM is supposedly so all in the tank for
> Obama? Just Google "Republicans altered e-mails" for multiple cites.

OK.

Huffington Post -

"One day after The White House released 100 pages of Benghazi emails, a
report has surfaced alleging that Republicans released a set with altered
text.

CBS News reported Thursday that leaked versions sent out by the GOP last
Friday had visible differences than Wednesday's official batch. Two
correspondences that were singled out in the report came from National
Security Adviser Ben Rhodes and State Department Spokeswoman Victoria
Nuland.

http://tinyurl.com/cxmsbqs

Interesting word, "alleging". I read over the 'changes' and essentially
what I saw was what Jay Carney would refer to as "stylistic changes" not
essence.

Lots of other cites but they all center on the CBS report mentioned above
in the Huffy Post.

>> I don't think that Obama hisself was
>> involved in the IRS thing but the firing of its head was pure theater
>> since Steven Miller would have had to leave that post in about three
>> weeks anyway.
>
> Oh? What do you suppose Issa and the boys are up to? It's ALL
theater.
> If Obama had not fired him, your side will be all up in arms over
> that, as well.

I don't have a side, Jeff. I don't like bullshit from either one.

At least by demanding his resignation, his record is
> blemished before he can quietly slip back into relative obscurity. So
> I'd say Obama's action was a decent start, and had some some actual
> meaning and impact.




Jeff M

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May 17, 2013, 5:14:41 PM5/17/13
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On 5/17/2013 4:05 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
> Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in
[snip]
> http://tinyurl.com/cxmsbqs
>
> Interesting word, "alleging". I read over the 'changes' and essentially
> what I saw was what Jay Carney would refer to as "stylistic changes" not
> essence.
>
> Lots of other cites but they all center on the CBS report mentioned above
> in the Huffy Post.

This article will explain the significance of the alterations for you:

"Since September, Republicans have claimed the Obama administration
covered up the truth about the attack on the American consulate in
Benghazi, Libya by altering the talking points Susan Rice used on the
Sunday morning talk shows. To bolster the story, Republicans misquoted
or significantly embellished the emails officials used to draft Rice’s
remarks, the CBS Evening News reported Thursday.

CBS News’ Major Garrett confirmed that it was a GOP source who leaked
the altered emails.

The miscast quotes affect at least two emails that include a State
Department spokesperson and a White House deputy adviser — *the two
parties GOP lawmakers insist were trying to engage a cover-up on behalf
of the Obama administration to protect the president’s chances of
re-election.*

A leaked email adds new language to State Department spokesperson
Victoria Nuland’s email, including a specific reference to al-Qaeda:
“The penultimate point is a paragraph talking about all the previous
warnings provided by the Agency (CIA) about al-Qaeda’s presence and
activities of al-Qaeda.“

The actual email read:
“The penultimate point could be abused by members to beat the State
Department for not paying attention to Agency warnings.“

A leaked email written by deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes
suggests that he asked for the final draft to remove references to
warnings about specific attacks, a demand made by the State Department:
“We must make sure that the talking points reflect all agency equities,
including those of the State Department, and we don’t want to undermine
the FBI investigation.”

But the actual email did not mention the State Department:
“We need to resolve this in a way that respects all of the relevant
equities, particularly the investigation.”

Since the congressional hearings last week, the White House on Wednesday
released a hundred pages of emails from after the consulate attack. The
full version undermines already-thin accusations that this is a White
House scandal."
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/05/17/2027861/gop-sources-altered-benghazi-e-mails-to-suggest-a-cover-up-reporter-confirms/?mobile=nc

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Jeff M

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On 5/17/2013 4:14 PM, Jeff M wrote:
> On 5/17/2013 4:05 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
>> Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in
> [snip]
>> http://tinyurl.com/cxmsbqs
>>
>> Interesting word, "alleging". I read over the 'changes' and essentially
>> what I saw was what Jay Carney would refer to as "stylistic changes" not
>> essence.

I forgot to ask, doesn't the fact that they altered the e-mails they
leaked at all, regardless of how significant the alterations were or
weren't, bother you at all?

It seems to me that it's a case of straight up fraud on the American
people, grossly improper, possibly criminal, and doubtless motivated by
partisan political malice.

RD Sandman

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May 17, 2013, 5:33:48 PM5/17/13
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Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in
news:6PGdncxpFtV0CgvM...@giganews.com:
Which I don't believe for a moment, although I wouldn't put it past some
of his supporters or campaign staff.

or should have known
> what those individuals responsible, as identified in the IG report,
> were doing and stopped them.
>
>> I said if he didn't know what his
>> departments were doing. It is up to those department managers to
>> keep the department running correctly. The single lead executive has
>> to know how the business as a whole is doing. You do that by making
>> sure that each department is being managed correctly. As you go down
>> the chain, the overview gets smaller and the details get bigger.
>
> Yep. That's why Obama forced the IRS director to resign.

As I have said earlier, I believe that to be theater. That director was
an acting one. In about three weeks he would have had to have been named
as THE director or replaced anyway. It makes a good appearance to remove
him.....just keep an eye on where he is in six months.

RD Sandman

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May 17, 2013, 5:40:48 PM5/17/13
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Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in
news:ZO-dnaAG2fxZAAvM...@giganews.com:

> On 5/17/2013 4:05 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
>> Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in
> [snip]
>> http://tinyurl.com/cxmsbqs
>>
>> Interesting word, "alleging". I read over the 'changes' and
>> essentially what I saw was what Jay Carney would refer to as
>> "stylistic changes" not essence.
>>
>> Lots of other cites but they all center on the CBS report mentioned
>> above in the Huffy Post.
>
> This article will explain the significance of the alterations for you:

Already read it.
As I said, it was about the same as Jay Carney's claim that all the
changes the White House made were simply stylistic. If you look at the
Emails, the same basic thing is said but the wordings are different. Is
it right to do that? NO! But you can't have it both ways, ignoring
changes and alterations during the process but castigating Republicans
for changing wordings but not essence. That would be the same for both
sides. Both parties get to carry home the Pinnochio awards on this one.

Jeff M

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May 17, 2013, 5:42:47 PM5/17/13
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I'd bet a nice, cushy, highly paid job in academia, a Wall Street
financial firm, or a think tank.

RD Sandman

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May 17, 2013, 5:43:30 PM5/17/13
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Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in
news:n4SdncFsG8eMAgvM...@giganews.com:

> On 5/17/2013 4:14 PM, Jeff M wrote:
>> On 5/17/2013 4:05 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
>>> Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in
>> [snip]
>>> http://tinyurl.com/cxmsbqs
>>>
>>> Interesting word, "alleging". I read over the 'changes' and
>>> essentially what I saw was what Jay Carney would refer to as
>>> "stylistic changes" not essence.
>
> I forgot to ask, doesn't the fact that they altered the e-mails they
> leaked at all, regardless of how significant the alterations were or
> weren't, bother you at all?

Yes, just as did Carney's continual rant that the only changes were
stylistic like changing words with "synonyms".

> It seems to me that it's a case of straight up fraud on the American
> people, grossly improper, possibly criminal, and doubtless motivated
> by partisan political malice.

As were the White House Spokesman's comments.

RD Sandman

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May 17, 2013, 5:51:58 PM5/17/13
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Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in
news:He2dnTDwn8fHOQvM...@giganews.com:
Or another cushy highly paid job in federal government or as a lobbyist.

Jeff M

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May 17, 2013, 5:54:57 PM5/17/13
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No they aren't. They were falsifications that appear to have been made
to strengthen their false claim that the Obama administration was
engaged in a cover-up.

"The miscast quotes affect at least two emails that include a State
Department spokesperson and a White House deputy adviser — the two
parties GOP lawmakers insist were trying to engage a cover-up on
behalf of the Obama administration to protect the president’s chances
of re-election."

> If you look at the
> Emails, the same basic thing is said but the wordings are different.

That is simply not true. The falsification bears directly on their
false accusations against Obama.

> Is
> it right to do that? NO! But you can't have it both ways, ignoring
> changes and alterations during the process but castigating Republicans
> for changing wordings but not essence. That would be the same for both
> sides. Both parties get to carry home the Pinnochio awards on this one.

This a a faulty comparison. There is no equivalence whatsoever between
what the Obama administration did and what the Republicans did.

In the former, it was a question of preparing and deciding what to
release and what to withhold, based on the available information, what
could be confirmed at the time, and the input of the government agencies
involved, notably the CIA and the State Department, before releasing the
information, i.e. trying to get their ducks in a row before making any
official pronouncements. Arguably, they mishandled that process, but it
was an attempt to get it right.

On the other side, it appears that the Republicans intentionally
falsified the versions of the e-mails they released to lend credence to
their false claim of a White House orchestrated cover-up. It was an
attempt to perpetrate a fraud and deceive the American public about the
true facts, for partisan political purposes, so they would get it wrong.


Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E

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On May 17, 3:49 pm, Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote:
> On 5/17/2013 3:07 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in
> >news:poKdnXIpApHK9QvM...@giganews.com:
>
> >> On 5/17/2013 10:50 AM, RD Sandman wrote:
> >>> The NAZI Party in America today is represented by the GOP
> >>> <GOPNaziKil...@poo.com> wrote in news:51964d12$0$12747$bbae4d71
> Yep.  That's why Obama forced the IRS director to resign.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Oh, you mean the same guy that was leaving in two weeks anyway.

Steve Rothstein

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May 17, 2013, 11:43:36 PM5/17/13
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On 5/17/2013 3:33 PM, Jeff M wrote:
> On 5/17/2013 3:13 PM, RD Sandman wrote:

> I have been following it rather cursorily in the newspapers and on
>> the telly, but I haven't seen where it is stated that the Republicans
>> deliberately altered the Emails.
>
> Funny ain't it, since the MSM is supposedly so all in the tank for
> Obama? Just Google "Republicans altered e-mails" for multiple cites.

Funny, I did just that. I get quite a few choices from such unbiased
places as Daily Kos, Huffington Post, Think Progress, and Salon. Then at
the bottom of the first page, I finally get to read the CBS article they
all reference. And no where does it say the Republicans altered anything.

CBS reports that there are differences between the version released by
the Republicans and the version released by the White House. No where in
the article does it say where the changes occurred. From the CBS
article, it is just as likely that the versions released by the White
House have been altered as it is the Republican released versions.

In a normal case like this, the basic choice would be who would have the
most reason to lie. That is not a valid criterion for this case because
both sides have equally important reasons to lie. The next criterion I
would use is who has a reputation for lying. Again, that is not a valid
criterion for this case since both sides are known to lie all the time.

Which leaves me choosing based on who is making the claims and my
personal biases. Based on my opinion of who is claiming the Republicans
altered the e-mails, I tend to think the administration is lying again.
I won't say they are until i get more evidence, but I surely do lean
that way right now.

Steve Rothstein

Ray Keller

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May 17, 2013, 11:48:46 PM5/17/13
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LOL
Jeftard the Disbarred lawyer admits he is a lier
On the other hand, the AVVO and Florida Bar information is factual and about
him

The Florida State Bar only lists one Jeff McCann and he is disbarred


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> I just respond in kind, automatically posting the same sort of stuff
> that happens to have his name on it, precisely as he's doing, until Ray
> grows up or at least grows tired of his own nonsense. In the meantime, I
> just laugh at the fool he's making of himself online.
>
> But what are you gonna do? I can pity him, and I try not to feed the
> trolls. But even if Ray's driven by nothing more than his internal
> demons of mental illness, its obvious that I'm the target of this
> loony's strangely angry little obsession. Maybe he'll recover his mental
> and emotional equilibrium one day, or finally grow up, or just tire of
> being such a self-embarrassing fool. You can never tell with someone as
> disturbed as Ray appears to be. In the meantime, you could always just
> killfile Ray or me or both for a little while.
>

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Jeff M

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May 18, 2013, 12:02:02 AM5/18/13
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On 5/17/2013 10:43 PM, Steve Rothstein wrote:
> On 5/17/2013 3:33 PM, Jeff M wrote:
>> On 5/17/2013 3:13 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
>
>> I have been following it rather cursorily in the newspapers and on
>>> the telly, but I haven't seen where it is stated that the Republicans
>>> deliberately altered the Emails.
>>
>> Funny ain't it, since the MSM is supposedly so all in the tank for
>> Obama? Just Google "Republicans altered e-mails" for multiple cites.
>
> Funny, I did just that. I get quite a few choices from such unbiased
> places as Daily Kos, Huffington Post, Think Progress, and Salon. Then at
> the bottom of the first page, I finally get to read the CBS article they
> all reference. And no where does it say the Republicans altered anything.
>
> CBS reports that there are differences between the version released by
> the Republicans and the version released by the White House.[snip]

What the Republicans leaked were what they claimed were quotes excerpted
from the WH e-mails. What the WH released were the actual e-mails
themselves, as the CBS report makes perfectly clear.

"The White House released the *real emails* late Wednesday. Here's what
we found when we compared them to the quotes that had been provided by
Republicans.

One email was written by deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes.

On Friday, Republicans leaked what they said was a quote from Rhodes:
"We must make sure that the talking points reflect all agency equities,
including those of the State Department, and we don't want to undermine
the FBI investigation."

But it turns out that in the *actual email*, Rhodes did not mention the
State Department.

It read: "We need to resolve this in a way that respects all of the
relevant equities, particularly the investigation."

Republicans also provided what they said was a quote from an email
written by State Department spokesman Victoria Nuland.

The Republican version quotes Nuland discussing, "The penultimate point
is a paragraph talking about all the previous warnings provided by the
Agency (CIA) about al-Qaeda's presence and activities of al-Qaeda."

The *actual email* from Nuland says: "The penultimate point could be
abused by members to beat the State Department for not paying attention
to Agency warnings."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57584947/wh-benghazi-emails-have-different-quotes-than-earlier-reported/
[emphasis added]


Gray Guest

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May 18, 2013, 12:21:02 AM5/18/13
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"Benghazi - A flavored coffee drink that no one cares about !"
<lo...@killer.xcm> wrote in news:51963156$0$12754$bbae4d71
@news.suddenlink.net:

>
>

Truly fascinating the intellectual heights you lot soar to. And you wnat to
be uniters and lead us? You're heading toward a bad end, chuckles.

--
Refusenik #1

Libs suffer from Eleutherophobia. And there is no cure.

Obama called the SEALs and THEY got bin Laden. When the SEALs called Obama,
THEY GOT DENIED. Fuck Obama

benj

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May 18, 2013, 2:51:06 PM5/18/13
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On Fri, 17 May 2013 23:02:02 -0500, Jeff M wrote:

> What the Republicans leaked were what they claimed were quotes excerpted
> from the WH e-mails. What the WH released were the actual e-mails
> themselves, as the CBS report makes perfectly clear.
>
> "The White House released the *real emails* late Wednesday. Here's what
> we found when we compared them to the quotes that had been provided by
> Republicans.

> But it turns out that in the *actual email*, Rhodes did not mention the
> State Department.

So let's see if I have this now: Obama released "real emails" which is to
say "actual emails" while republicans released something they just made
up or at best altered. And the way you know this is because the Obama
administration (as well as any leftist democrat) is known to have
absolutely never lied about anything and all scandals and disasters can
*ALL* be traced back to Bushites. Republicans on the other hand are known
liars who *ALWAYS* lie and clearly are no different in this case.

We get the picture.

Jeff M

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May 18, 2013, 3:03:38 PM5/18/13
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On 5/18/2013 1:51 PM, benj wrote:
> On Fri, 17 May 2013 23:02:02 -0500, Jeff M wrote:
>
>> What the Republicans leaked were what they claimed were quotes excerpted
>> from the WH e-mails. What the WH released were the actual e-mails
>> themselves, as the CBS report makes perfectly clear.
>>
>> "The White House released the *real emails* late Wednesday. Here's what
>> we found when we compared them to the quotes that had been provided by
>> Republicans.
>
>> But it turns out that in the *actual email*, Rhodes did not mention the
>> State Department.
>
> So let's see if I have this now: Obama released "real emails" which is to
> say "actual emails" while republicans released something they just made
> up or at best altered.

Correct.

> And the way you know this is because the Obama
> administration (as well as any leftist democrat) is known to have
> absolutely never lied about anything and all scandals and disasters can
> *ALL* be traced back to Bushites. Republicans on the other hand are known
> liars who *ALWAYS* lie and clearly are no different in this case.
>
> We get the picture.

No, you obviously don't.

GOP_Decline_and_Fall

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May 19, 2013, 5:34:43 AM5/19/13
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On Fri, 17 May 2013 12:01:32 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 17 May 2013 13:35:15 -0500, FEMA Rendition Camps Czar
><fea...@poo.com> wrote:
>
>>There is a entire infrastructure that has the
>>responsibilities of babysitting CIA operatives who were spying
>>in a foreign country
>
>CIA OPERATIVES SPYING IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY???????
>
>Really?

Really.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/05/17/truth-justice-and-benghazi.html

In fact, the whole picture of the "consulate" in Benghazi, as
portrayed in most of the headlines and hearings, is misleading. It was
not really a consulate at all by the strict State Department
definition of the term, it was called a "special mission" and had
grown out of the improvised presence that Chris Stevens had
established in Benghazi as the envoy to the rebels during the fighting
to overthrow the Gaddafi dictatorship.

From the beginning, the agency was there behind the scenes. When a
terrorist bomb hit the hotel where Stevens was staying during the
fighting in 2011, he and his team just moved in with the CIA at their
so-called "Annex."

Even after Stevens officially became ambassador in Tripoli in mid-2012
he did not take the initiative to turn the diplomatic mission in
Benghazi into a formal consulate. Partly as a result, it started to
fall between the bureaucratic cracks at Foggy Bottom and couldn�t
command as many security measures as it should have. as it should
have.

As one knowledgeable U.S. official told The Daily Beast's Eli Lake,
"The Benghazi compound was a U.S, intelligence station with State
Department cover." The agency operation run out of "the Annex"
involved at least two dozen people. The "mission" was their satellite,
not the other way around. And what were the agency people doing in
Benghazi? Obviously, among other things, hunting for Al Qaeda�which by
last September appeared to be hunting for them, as Newsweek reported
in its investigation of the case last October.

State Department security officers were too few and fortifications too
weak to withstand a mob attack or a terrorist assault like the one on
September 11. And it is not clear how much more like Fort Apache that
compound would have had to be in order to hold off such an attack.
It's doubtful there would have been enough fortification and firepower
under any circumstances

>Who have you told about this?

It's sisyphean to try to educate brainwashed right wing dittoheads who
still believe Saddam had WMD and was responsible for 9-11.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/05/17/truth-justice-and-benghazi.html

Republicans are passionate about �Benghazi��41 percent think it�s the
biggest scandal in American political history!�but of those, 39
percent couldn�t identify the country where Benghazi is located.

GOP_Decline_and_Fall

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May 19, 2013, 5:48:19 AM5/19/13
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On Sat, 18 May 2013 14:03:38 -0500, Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org>
wrote:
Clearly they do, but somehow it's supposed to be acceptable or a minor
peccadillo for the GOP to edit and forge government emails in the
service of their never ending smear campaigns.

To paraphrase Speaker Boehner, when is a GOP staffer going to jail
over this?

Klaus Schadenfreude

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May 19, 2013, 8:26:47 AM5/19/13
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 02:34:43 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
<D...@null.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 17 May 2013 12:01:32 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
><klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 13:35:15 -0500, FEMA Rendition Camps Czar
>><fea...@poo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>There is a entire infrastructure that has the
>>>responsibilities of babysitting CIA operatives who were spying
>>>in a foreign country
>>
>>CIA OPERATIVES SPYING IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY???????
>>
>>Really?
>
>Really.
>
>http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/05/17/truth-justice-and-benghazi.html


Gosh, that's exciting!

Hey look what I found on the Internet!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Intelligence_Agency
The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) is one of the principal
intelligence-gathering agencies of the United States federal
government. An executive agency, it reports to the Director of
National Intelligence. The CIA has three principal activities:
gathering information about foreign governments, corporations, and
individuals; analyzing that information, and carrying out or
overseeing covert activities and some tactical operations by its own
employees, by members of the U.S. military, or by other partners.

Why, it sounds like they're, like, a SPY agency or something. Should I
alert the Daily Beast, or do you want to take the credit for this one?


GOP_Decline_and_Fall

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May 19, 2013, 9:26:36 AM5/19/13
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 05:26:47 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
That's right Klauss...nothing at all like an Embassy or Consulate and
responsible for their own protection.

In fact Stevens turned down offers of military protection not once but
twice.

>Should I alert the Daily Beast, or do you want to take the credit for this one?

I wouldn't worry.

Only you and other delusionals don't know the risks the CIA take in
operating in a makeshift intelligence base in the middle of a civil
war, or smear the memory of dead men by using their deaths as fodder
for transparent,sordid political attacks.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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May 19, 2013, 9:39:55 AM5/19/13
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 06:26:36 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
>That's right Klauss...[..]

Of course it's right. That's what the CIA fucking DOES- they spy in
foreign countries.

You have a LOT of trouble keeping up, don't you?

GOP_Decline_and_Fall

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May 19, 2013, 9:58:04 AM5/19/13
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 06:39:55 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
No Klauss , that's only ONE of the things they do.

>You have a LOT of trouble keeping up, don't you?

That would be you.

Do you even read the cites you post?

In this case they were performing the third leg of their duties as per
your cite.

"and carrying out or overseeing covert activities and some tactical
operations by its own employees, by members of the U.S. military, or
by other partners."

In this instance fomenting civil war in Libya.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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May 19, 2013, 10:00:54 AM5/19/13
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 06:58:04 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
So it *is* one of the things they do. I never claimed it was the ONLY
thing- in fact, I TOLD you they do other things.

>>You have a LOT of trouble keeping up, don't you?
>
>That would be you.

Yet you couldn't remember that I told you they do other things.
That's, what, 19 lines up?

You have a REALLY short attention span, don't you, troll?

ROFL

Ivan Bodley

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"Klaus Schadenfreude" wrote in message
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####
You had best repeat/repost it few more times, as zepp already forgot it.

Maybe with a larger font... with a "Normal to Zepp" translating software?

GOP_Decline_and_Fall

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May 19, 2013, 10:18:40 AM5/19/13
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 10:11:05 -0400, "Ivan Bodley" <bas...@bass.gov>
wrote:
Until you manage to get yourself a decent news reader that can format
correctly you are in no position to even mention software.

GOP_Decline_and_Fall

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May 19, 2013, 10:22:16 AM5/19/13
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 07:00:54 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Couldn't remember?

LOL!

I just quoted it and you snipped the quote.

>You have a REALLY short attention span, don't you, troll?

You're the troll and a post editing one at that.

>ROFL

Klaus Schadenfreude

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May 19, 2013, 10:51:03 AM5/19/13
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 07:22:16 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
I counted them for you since you had so much trouble finding it.

Then I remembered you can't count that high.

>>You have a REALLY short attention span, don't you, troll?
>
>You're the troll and a post editing one at that.

Really? Let's take a look at some of your recent original posts.....

Newsgroups:
misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,talk.politics.guns,alt.politics,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: GOP Altered Benghazi E-Mails To Suggest A Cover-Up

Newsgroups:
misc.survivalism,alt.politics.obama,rec.crafts.metalworking,talk.politics.guns,alt.politics,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,az.politics
Subject: Right-Wing Troll Notification System Test

Newsgroups:
misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,talk.politics.guns,alt.politics,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Mother's Day Gun Nut Horror

From: GOP_Decline_and_Fall <D...@null.net>
Newsgroups:
misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,talk.politics.guns,alt.politics,alt.rush-limbaugh

Gee- typical troll selection of newsgroups. How interesting. Now we'll
look at the last few original posts of mine....

Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
Subject: S.E. Cupp Blasts Michael Moore Over Guns

Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
Subject: Another Leftist Loon Spouts Off - "Background Checks Prevent
Suicides"

Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
Subject: Brady Center sues Georgia town that requires residents to own
guns

Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
Subject: 16,000+ New NRA Life Members- signed up by ONE guy....

Golly! Al mine are on topic for the newsgroup they are posted in! And
yours aren't.

Explain that, troll.

"POINT PROVEN!"
Lee Harrison 1957-2012, RIP

Notuf Questions

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May 19, 2013, 2:05:39 PM5/19/13
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On May 19, 10:22 am, GOP_Decline_and_Fall <D...@null.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 07:00:54 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Sun, 19 May 2013 06:58:04 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
> ><D...@null.net> wrote:
>
> >>On Sun, 19 May 2013 06:39:55 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
> >><klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>On Sun, 19 May 2013 06:26:36 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
> >>><D...@null.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>On Sun, 19 May 2013 05:26:47 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
> >>>><klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>On Sun, 19 May 2013 02:34:43 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
> >>>>><D...@null.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 12:01:32 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
> >>>>>><klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 13:35:15 -0500, FEMA Rendition Camps Czar
> >>>>>>><fea...@poo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>There is a entire infrastructure that has the
> >>>>>>>>responsibilities of babysitting CIA operatives who were spying
> >>>>>>>>in a foreign country
>
> >>>>>>>CIA OPERATIVES SPYING IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY???????
>
> >>>>>>>Really?
>
> >>>>>>Really.
>
> >>>>>>http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/05/17/truth-justice-and-be...
In a way, pretty much all of those from political interests that
rarely use proof in their quotes are trolls.

GOP_Decline_and_Fall

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May 19, 2013, 2:11:09 PM5/19/13
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 07:51:03 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
More pathetic post editing.

>>>You have a REALLY short attention span, don't you, troll?
>>
>>You're the troll and a post editing one at that.
>
>Really?

Really.

> Let's take a look at some of your recent original posts.....

No, let's look at the quote from your cite, that you idiotically
persist in claiming I neither noticed or read instead.

In fact you edited it out before responding.

"Do you even read the cites you post?

In this case they were performing the third leg of their duties as per
your cite.

"and carrying out or overseeing covert activities and some tactical
operations by its own employees, by members of the U.S. military, or
by other partners."

Rather more than spying..and when the "partners" are bands of armed
Muslim fundamentalist extremists and suicide bombers there is obvious
risks involved.
Yet here you are posting to talk.politics.guns,
misc.survivalism,tx.guns,alt.politics,az.general

>"POINT PROVEN!"
>Lee Harrison 1957-2012, RIP

Why not create a website as a shrine?

Klaus Schadenfreude

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May 19, 2013, 2:16:32 PM5/19/13
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 11:11:09 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
More pathetic excuses for not being able to read what's in a post.


>>>>You have a REALLY short attention span, don't you, troll?
>>>
>>>You're the troll and a post editing one at that.
>>
>>Really?
>
>Really.
>
>> Let's take a look at some of your recent original posts.....
>
>No, let's look at the quote from your cite

No, let's look at your troll behavior.....
Your ORIGINAL posts- in other words, your trolling- are ALL to off
topic newsgroups. Replying isn't trolling.

You're deliberately posting to off topic groups. Therefore, you are a
troll.

It fits. Wear it.

Troll.

So it's PARTICULARLY funny when you call other people "trolls" when
you are their King.

GOP_Decline_and_Fall

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May 19, 2013, 2:36:46 PM5/19/13
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I guess you are right but the habits of Klauss and certain other
posters of editing out cites from their responses, and either claiming
it was never posted, or even having the audacity to demand a cite
after removing it seems to verge on pathology.

Transition Zone

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May 19, 2013, 3:07:59 PM5/19/13
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> posters ... seem to verge on pathology .

Unsurprisingly, these typical "lax and uncaring" fringes don't even
react in a Shakespearean manner: they don't even say anything like
"what will they do without me" or "What will they do when I am
gone?".

(since the've been told many times that the numbers suggest they can't
win the WH anymore)

GOP_Decline_and_Fall

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May 19, 2013, 3:37:58 PM5/19/13
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There are elements that realize this, but the brute fact that their
ship has run aground on is that the very characteristics that lead to
victory in a primary makes a GOP candidate unelectable in a general
election IMHO.

GOP_Decline_and_Fall

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May 21, 2013, 4:32:30 AM5/21/13
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 11:16:32 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Replying isn't trolling

Don't be ridiculous.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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May 21, 2013, 8:04:51 AM5/21/13
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Don't be stupid. And stop trolling.
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