Charting our Economy

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Dr Q

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Nov 10, 2017, 8:37:58 PM11/10/17
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I'm seeing a lot of misinformation in political discussions on facebook, blaming Obama for the recession, etc.  I often find myself wishing I had a quick factual rebuttal to whatever nonsense is being promoted.

Here are some charts that might be helpful in these discussions.  Help me find some more - the federal debt, the imbalance of trade, tax rates, whatever will help us understand the relationship between politics and the economy.

The first chart (Unemployment Rate) I used in a discussion with an Obama hater, in response to his allegations that Obama was responsible for record high welfare costs and record low home ownership.  Those were clearly caused by the recession, and for those who don't remember when the recession started, this chart of unemployment rate makes it clear.  If you believe that cause and effect cannot happen in reverse order, this chart nails it.  I got no response. 



The next chart is helpful for those who say Trump is good for the stock market.  We see the dip from the recession starting in 2009 and slowly recovering since then, with no change in the trend since Trump was elected.  We also see a scary indication that we are headed for a crash.  Price-to-Earnings ratios are at the level they were just before the 1929 crash.  Again, we see no visible effect on the trend from Trump.  If anything, his false claims and dangerous de-regulation will push P/E ratios even higher into the unstable region.  Any suggestions for good stocks to short?


Dr Q

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Nov 11, 2017, 5:25:15 AM11/11/17
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A Google search for "foreign trade data" leads to this link:

$500 billion per year is not sustainable !!  I hate to be alarmist, but I think this is the end of our leadership in the world economy.  We cannot maintain that role when we are the worlds biggest debtor nation.  See the topic "Trade and Jobs" in this forum for more discussion.

The Federal Debt is even more alarming.  Deficit spending should be done only in wartime or to get out of a recession.  The rest of the time the total debt should be going down as a percentage of GDP.  This was working well from the end of WWII until 1980 when Ronald Reagan's tax cuts exploded the deficit. The theory, supply-side economics (Voodoo Economics) was that the loss of tax revenue would be fully recovered by the extra growth resulting from the tax cuts.  As you can see from this next chart, that didn't work.



Deficit spending continued out of control until the tax increase of 1994.  For just a few years, until 2001, it looked like we had finally found the right balance, bringing the debt down while enjoying a booming economy.  Then the triple hit of tax cuts, the Iraq war, and some huge giveaways to the drug industry brought back out-of-control deficits.  Even worse, excessive de-regulation of the housing market brought a market crash that nearly destroyed the world economy, and started a recession that took eight years to recover and brought our national debt to $20 trillion ($200,000 per average taxpayer).


We are now at a critical decision point, no less challenging than our ancestors faced going into WWII.  Do we go for another round of voodoo economics, or accept some sacrifice and show the world that we can bring our economy back from the edge.  We have been very lucky that interest on our $20 trillion debt has been low.  The Federal Reserve has been able to set interest rates low without regard to market forces, largely because the dollar is seen as the world's reserve currency and a safe place to hold cash.  What happens if interest rates return to normal, say 5%.  The interest on our national debt then soars to over a trillion dollars per year, wiping out our federal budget, and quite likely leading to a collapse like we have seen in third-world countries.


It can't happen here, right?  Our leaders will put aside their partisan games and do the right thing.  Our president will rally the country to get behind a few years of sacrifice and leave a better economy for our kids.  Nobody has ever won betting against the USA.  I just have a creepy feeling that many of our leaders now spouting lies about their new tax plan are aware of their duplicity and have their own personal exit plans. They and their families will do well, even if our country's economy collapses.


Make no mistake, the top 1% are doing very well indeed in the USA.  Here is a chart from a recent report by the World Inequality Database.  Looks like that bottom 50% (or is it 47% :>) are lazy SOBs, living off our too-generous welfare state, while the top 1% are working twice as hard as they were 40 years ago !!

           Share of National Income 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/12/14/business/world-inequality.html



Dr Q

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Nov 14, 2017, 12:11:06 PM11/14/17
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Question:  Interest rates are set by the Fed.  Why can't they just keep interest rates low forever, and not worry about the debt?
Answer:  An economist might give a better answer, but here is my take:  The Fed sets rates to balance the competing demands of stimulating growth vs controlling inflation.  If inflation starts to go up, they raise interest rates to slow the demand for more dollars to finance new projects, and the price we pay is slower growth of the economy.  

There is another factor, however, that may overwhelm the Feds normal balancing process, and that is investor confidence in the dollar.  Right now the Fed has the luxury of setting rates to near zero.  In the early 80's when they couldn't get people to buy enough bonds to sustain the debt, the Federal Funds rate soared to 19%.  The worry was that out-of-control inflation would make the bonds worthless.


So now we have inflation under control, and the economy is soaring, why the worry?  What could cause an investment in US Bonds to fail?  Take another look at that chart of Federal Debt, and give that question some thought.


Dr Q

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Apr 21, 2018, 3:05:45 PM4/21/18
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Best chart yet on the myth that Republicans are the party of fiscal responsibility.  David Leonhardt is a genius.
In placing the blame for our huge national debt, it is easy to confuse the public with misleading details and outright lies.  You could say, for example, that deficits were lowest under G.W. Bush, and by far the highest under Obama.  But a more fair explanation of the chart below shows Reagan, Bush, and now Trump, driving the deficits up in prosperous times, and Clinton and Obama driving deficits down, except for 2008 at the peak of the worst recession since the 1930's.

Ideally, deficits should be used to cut off a recession, and a small surplus at all other times to get ready for the next recession. Instead what we have is pure short-term opportunism. Politicians borrow our children's money to buy the next election. That is all they care about.

Without a long-term balance, we are doomed to bankruptcy.  It could happen in the next few years.



Here is another interesting chart on this topic from Paul Krugman, also a genius on explaining things.

Fiscal stimulus should be high when unemployment is high, as it was until 2009.  After that, the Republican Congress forced an austerity policy in the middle of the biggest recession since the 1930s.  This had the predictable effect of prolonging the recession.  Now that the recession is over, the Republicans are engaging in record levels of deficit spending, exactly the opposite of what they should do.

perverse fiscal policy - krugman.png

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/02/opinion/the-perversion-of-fiscal-policy-slightly-wonkish.html?



Dr Q

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Jul 28, 2019, 8:08:10 PM7/28/19
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More links on the topic of deficits:

Link [1] has a simplified version of the Debt Chart every democratic candidate should have ready to whip out at any mention of the economy or hint that Trump claims credit for the recovery.

FRED_Deficits.jpg


Link [2] has some confessions of former Fox hosts John Avlon and Alisyn Camerota, now admitting that Republicans' concern about deficits was always a con.




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