Does anyone know of Bogside Farm, Cumnock?I've just found out that my Mothers' side of the family came up from Liverpool, during the 1926 General Strike. My Grandad was a Welder and Plumber and worked around that area. I'm trying to find out who ow

[Marie McIntosh]

[scotjohn]

On Friday, October 4, 2013 10:11:47 PM UTC+10, Marie McIntosh wrotIe:

Aye Maria, can see a black & white signpost saying Bogside but can't recall where?? There is definitely a farm called BOGHEAD that sits on the roadside between Cumnock & Muirkirk!   

[Noreen]

There is  a place called Bogside below Low Coylton to the west of Drogan.  I can still hear my mother saying "doon by Bogside"  Hope this helps

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[Campbell Thomas]

There was a Bogside Farm in Dundonald that became the WW2 RAF station my dad flew from, mentioned in my last email. Not exactly Cumnock, though

http://www.combinedops.com/516%20Sqd.htm

Campbell

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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 18:23:49 -0800
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Subject: [Ayrshire History] Re: Does anyone know of Bogside Farm, Cumnock?I've just found out that my Mothers' side of the family came up from Liverpool, during the 1926 General Strike. My Grandad was a Welder and Plumber and worked around that area. I'm trying to find out

On Friday, October 4, 2013 10:11:47 PM UTC+10, Marie McIntosh wrotIe:

Aye Maria, can see a black & white signpost saying Bogside but can't recall where?? There is definitely a farm called BOGHEAD that sits on the roadside between Cumnock & Muirkirk!   

[Kirsty Jess-Taylor]

This any use???

I stay in the area so will do some investigating for you.

Kirsty

http://www.combinedops.com/516%20Sqd.htm

[Noreen]

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[Noreen]

Me again.  That would fit with my mother as she was brought up at Barassie Poultry Farm Barassie Troon right opposite the army camp. It is no longer there disappearing in a road widening scheme in the 1970's  She used to go to Dundonald church.

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[James]

Bogside is just outside Irvine  , famous race course once the home of Scottish Grand National, James 

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On 15 Jan, 2014, at 10:23, scotjohn <scotj...@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, October 4, 2013 10:11:47 PM UTC+10, Marie McIntosh wrotIe:

Aye Maria, can see a black & white signpost saying Bogside but can't recall where?? There is definitely a farm called BOGHEAD that sits on the roadside between Cumnock & Muirkirk!   

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[Campbell Thomas]

Hi Noreen,

Just about all that's left there from WW2 is a large, grey-coloured hangar/workshop, now being used by locals at Auchengate. Nothing much ever happened down there though I wished it did, as it straddled two newspaper circulation areas. That said, a big cannabis farm was discovered in a rented house some years back.

Campbell

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Subject: Re: [Ayrshire History] Re: Does anyone know of Bogside Farm, Cumnock?I've just found out that my Mothers' side of the family came up from Liverpool, during the 1926 General Strike. My Grandad was a Welder and Plumber and worked around that area. I'm tr
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 12:39:08 +0000

[Campbell Thomas]

That's another Bogside, James, albeit just down the road. The old racecourse is now very overgrown and a nature reserve popular with Irvine chavs armed with air rifles and hunting dogs. One was convicted of killing a deer there a few months back.

Campbell

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Subject: Re: [Ayrshire History] Re: Does anyone know of Bogside Farm, Cumnock?I've just found out that my Mothers' side of the family came up from Liverpool, during the 1926 General Strike. My Grandad was a Welder and Plumber and worked around that area. I'm trying to find out
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 20:44:34 +0800
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[Campbell Thomas]

Hi Kirsty,

That Combined Ops webpage was set up by my honourary uncle Doug Shears, a pilot with the RNZAF who became a very good friend of my father when they both flew with 516 Sqn out of Bogside-Dundonald.

The runway was of a temporary nature, made of thick wire mesh laid over the grass fields, and could get quite muddy. Check the first link below to see a satellite image with the runway impression still visible.

If you read the section Occupational Hazards, that's about the time my dad, flying a Blenheim bomber, performed a low-level mock attack on an army landing craft in the run-up to D-Day. Doug was in the control tower at Dundonald and heard everything over the radio. Hair-raising. Other good tales on there, including the squadron cat!

The organisation, Airfields of Great Britain, set up a memorial at the Bogside-Dundonald site three years back. If you check their website image you can clearly see traces of the main runway parallel with the railway, plus a shorter one and dispersal:

http://www.abct.org.uk/airfields/dundonald-bogside

My son and I went along to the ceremony. Sadly, no other family of veterans, or vets themselves, could be traced. It was very poignant and the Kilmarnock Standard covered it:

http://www.abct.org.uk/uploaded/documents/pressclipping/10-Kilmarnock%20Standard.pdf

Campbell

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:15:41 +0000
Subject: RE: [Ayrshire History] Re: Does anyone know of Bogside Farm, Cumnock?I've just found out that my Mothers' side of the family came up from Liverpool, during the 1926 General Strike. My Grandad was a Welder and Plumber and worked around that area. I'm tr
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[scotjohn]

BOGSIDE FARM - Aye Maria, you maybe in luck, re - reading a book on my X local area, came across the mention of Bogside farm, it looks like it WAS situated just North of an old Mining village called Cronebrry & bounded to the South by a farm of the same name, the places mentioned are just a few miles North East of Cumnock. According to a map of 1654 there are 2 Bogshead's  the other mention is - Boigsh - - . I would say there is little doubt it is the farm you are looking for as it is mentioned in the same locality of not just Cronberry & farm of same name [still there] but others in the vicinity as well!

The book quotes are: - 1. David *Boswell succeeded as 5th Boswell of Auchinleck in 1661. He had previously been given a charter under the Great Seal in 1609 - the lands of Cromderrie [Cronberry] & Bogside. In the later half of the 19th century farming started to fall away as mining & smelting came to the fore [start of industrial revolution], no doubt because of this people left the land thus lots of farms big & small were abandoned, the land being bought up or taken over by the adjacent farms.  2. A few of the farms in the immediate area were - Cubs Mill [S of Wallaceton], Cronberry Shield [E of #Templand shaw], Welltrees [W of Boghead] & Bogside [N of Boghead]!   

Some pertinent notes on the previous - the farm was well named [Bog] as it sat on the edge of Airds Moss, which is a huge area consisting of heather, peat & bog - no biulding or farm was ever in the midst of it, all were around the edges. Even although the farms disappeared many times the main building became a cottage & retained the farm name, in your families case it could still have been there, also to many were used as tied or rented cottages for people that  worked in the farms that then owned them! 

If you can imagine moving & looking for work in ANOTHER area in those dark days of 1926, accommodation would be @ a premium, therefore anything within an inhabited area [that maybe offered some work] would be more than acceptable, also due to its "remoteness" or condition - cheaper rent?   

# In 2013 I stayed @ Templandshaw > this cottage[s] was originally a farm that ceased to exist similar to Bogside! By shear coincidence the 2 farms are virtually opposite 1 another as the crow flies, Bogside on the South side of the moor the other on the Northern edge! 

* this was the Fore father of the famous biographer - James Boswell.

Regards john  - PS contact the Cronberry, Cumnock & Lugar village websites, within are peoples involved as you are!

If you expand this photo in the website - you will be looking North across the Gass Water stream over flat green where the remains of the 7 miners rows were, Mortonmuir farm on right with its railway [in middle] that served the mine of the same name, then old pit & bing [slag heap] on left, on up through the lands of Cronberry farm to what would have been the lands of Bogside towards the horizon. Beyond is the bings of old coal & ironstone mines with the remains of the gigantic heap that was the dump site of waste slag from the then huge Lugar ironworks,also the railway that also served Cronberry pit further East. Over the sky line stretches Airds Moss to Templlandshaws cottage [X farm] & River Ayr & valley, then The hills of Blacksie Den on next horizon! >>

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cronberry_station_site_geograph-3333984-by-Ben-Brooksbank.jpg 

  

Cronberry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cronberry

21 June 1938

Shot-Firer Succumbs to Burning Injuries - In the early hours of yesterday morning, John Fleming (43), Craigston Holm, Lugar, died in Ayr County Hospital as the result of burning injuries sustained the previous day during his employment as shot-firer in Cronberry Moor Pit, Lugar. Fleming had lit the fuse prior to firing a shot, and it is presumed that a spark from the fuse set fire to his clothing. He was extensively burned about the lower part of the body. He leaves a widow and two children. [Scotsman 22 June 1938]

Heroism In Pit - Men Go to Rescue Despite Explosion Warning - Ayrshire Accident - 

A dramatic story of valour in an Ayrshire colliery accident was revealed to Sheriff Menzies, and a jury in Ayr Sheriff Court yesterday, when an inquiry was conducted into the death of a miner. The victim of the accident was John Fleming (43), colliery repairer, 17 Craigstonholm Row, Lugar, Ayrshire. Working in Cronberry Moor Pit, Fleming, had his clothing set on fire from a spark from a flue. Although he must have been suffering intense pain, he had the presence of mind to warn workmates who went to his aid that he had lighted a fuse which had not exploded. Despite the warning, three of his colleagues remained by him. They stripped off his clothes, and began to lead him away. They had gone only a few feet when the fuse exploded. Fortunately, none of the men were injured. Fleming, however, died in hospital on the following day, as a result of the burns. The three workmates who went to his assistance were- John Stark (36), 442 Brick Row, Lugar; Michael Murray M'Cormick (24), 118 Peesweep Row, Lugar, and James Climie, jun. (37), 400 Brick Row, Lugar. In Court, Mr George Hoyle. Glasgow, H.M. Inspector of Mines for the West of Scotland, expressed his appreciation of the action of 

deceased and his colleagues, as also did the Sheriff. The jury, added a rider to their formal verdict commending the action of all the miners concerned. [Scotsman 23 July 1938]  

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-15693136

http://www.s1auchinleck.com/      Add in village name to prefix for local village websites

http://www.ancestryroots.co.uk/archivehistory.htm

  

  

On Friday, October 4, 2013 10:11:47 PM UTC+10, Marie McIntosh wrote: