envelope just 0 to 63,5

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Synthy

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May 23, 2015, 5:27:56 PM5/23/15
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To control a filter pitch it needs -63 to +63. The envelope generators produce only 0 to +63,5. This limits the dynamic range of the filter. To get it full i have to set the main pitch reg. to 0 but when the env. is 0 the filter is not closed. it has to be - 63 to get it closed. How do i do that? I cant seem to find a solution to convert a 0 to 63 to -63 to +63.

Johannes Taelman

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May 24, 2015, 8:25:16 AM5/24/15
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conv/unipolar2bipolar
does that job

On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 11:27 PM, Synthy <p.vh....@gmail.com> wrote:
To control a filter pitch it needs -63 to +63. The envelope generators produce only 0 to +63,5. This limits the dynamic range of the filter. To get it full i have to set the main pitch reg. to 0 but when the env. is 0 the filter is not closed. it has to be - 63 to get it closed. How do i do that? I cant seem to find a solution to convert a 0 to 63 to -63 to +63.

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Synthy

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May 24, 2015, 4:16:03 PM5/24/15
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That is correct, but it did not satisfy me. I want the env. gen. sweep from no sound to all sound so i have the full dynamic range. To do that i have to pitch the filter to 0. The filter has full dynamic range over the filter, but since the envelope generator, when not triggered, is -63 the filter is not fully open when filterpitch is at max.



Johannes Taelman

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May 24, 2015, 4:55:54 PM5/24/15
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Actual filter pitch is
the sum of the pitch parameter value and the value at the pitchm inlet
both accept -64..64 range
the sum of these is clamped to the -64..64 range.

So only when the parameter dial is at its center (0) position it can reach the full range via the pitchm inlet.

I suggest to diagnose by using the "disp/dial b" object.

but since the envelope generator, when not triggered, is -63 the filter is not fully open when filterpitch is at max.

Are you trying to "open" the filter from the envelope or "close" it?

What's the motivation of using a filter as a vca? It's probably unstable when sweeping fast at high resonance settings.

Synthy

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May 24, 2015, 5:10:17 PM5/24/15
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I try to open it. In the 80's opening the filter by the envelope in conjunction with the vca was the way to make a good sound. I would like to approach that sound so i will look further into it. The control by the env to open it is already done, but i have to change the influence of the env to pitch the filter to the max when no env is added. To be continued.....


Synthy

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May 25, 2015, 6:10:37 AM5/25/15
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I have got it. Take a mixer obj. env through the mixer dial obj. through the mixer and even lfo. After that conv/unipolar2bipolar and then to the filter pitch. pitch at zero.
I am glad the Axoloti is so flexible to do all the tricks i want. Great job Johannes.
I think it's very good you react on our posts. I shall upload my synth when it's ready. I hope it will be a  good 80,s synth.


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