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Gaurav @ Gmail

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Aug 14, 2012, 12:40:35 AM8/14/12
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Guys this Society is just for allottees and not for tenants or other people who buy flat here. I think it is better to write about this Army managed RWA/society on internet about their behaviour and discriminations towards tenants and  civilians so that we can warn other people shifting to this society.

 

Recent development by RWA is simply not acceptable. They are now asking landlords to tell the tenants to vacate the house specially who raised their voice for justice.

 

Regards,

Gaurav

 

 

From: awho-tenant...@googlegroups.com [mailto:awho-tenant...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tenant Sispalvihar
Sent: 13 August 2012 16:27
To: awho-tenant...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fwd: Sispal Vihar RWA president - Rathee arrested. COVERAGE IN TIMES OF INDIA AND HINDUSTAN TIMES (attached)

 

Friends,

 

I had tried sending the below mail to email ids of all the owners of sispal vihar but it got bounced back probably becuase google thought its a spam . I am getting delivery failures for all the email ids given below.

How can  we send it to all these IDs withouth google blocking it ?

 

cheers

 

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Tenant Sispalvihar <sispal...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 3:28 PM
Subject: Sispal Vihar RWA president - Rathee arrested. COVERAGE IN TIMES OF INDIA AND HINDUSTAN TIMES (attached)
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Dear members of Sispal Vihar,

 

In continuation of the below mails,  Please find attached scanned copies from Times of India and Hindustan Times which mentions that Mr.Rathee who is the president of Sispal Vihar RWA  - which we have now nicknamed as Rathee Welfare Association was arrested  for assault on people residing in Sispal Vihar.  You may zoom the picture of these attachemnts to read properly. So the news about mr.rathee being arrested for assault and other charges is true and not a rumour.

This is for the sake of all the members who are not aware of what this president is doing in the absence of all you honourable members not living in Sispal Vihar currently and is taking advantage of it for the welfare of RWA which in the case of Sispal Vihar  has become Rathee Welfare Association.

 

A detailed account of what happened on the day he got arrested is given below:

 

After Rathee and his gundas in the form of the building security ganged up and beat up two resident tenants, about 200 residents got so angry with Rathee's continued atrocities that they all got together and went to the police station  and complained to them. The police station was already aware of Rathee's doing since they had recieved numeruous complaints against him in the past also -  One such complaint (lodged at sadar police station - gurgaon)  in the past was from a pregnant woman who is also a resident tenant of sispal vihar - she complained that rathee used very bad language on her and also pushed her and asked the guards to throw her and her husband out of his office only becuase they went to Rathee's office to compalin about the water problems. She was hurt in the incident.

 

After all the residents complained to the police station together, Police troops marched in to Sispal Vihar and went to Rathee's house to arrest him, he was found hiding in the building. He was kept in the jail overnight with various charges against him and  the court released him only on bail the next evening.

 

The most common complaint against Mr.Rathee is that he is a person who always uses very bad language while talking to people, he tries to threaten people all the time and acts like a goon. He thinks he has become the president of India, becuase when one starts objecting to his rude language the one thing that he says is " Do you know who you are talking to? I AM THE PRESIDENT "

 

I mean, seriously --- Mr.Rathee - Are you the president of India???

WOW.... I really cannot understand how such a person has been elected to represent this society . For him, I think RWA is not resident's welfare association but Rathee Welfare association.

 

He has appointed his own man as the designated broker of the society - so everyone who wants to come to sispal vihar as a tenant has to deal only with this broker and not any other broker. Other brokers also follow the same rules, same police verification, etc then why only one broker and that too the one selected by Rathee is appointed for this.  I wonder why this is being done? Not difficult to guess, i think.

 

 

So Ms.Kavita Kharab and Mr.Amar - I am sorry, the mail forwarded by you is indeed true and it is indeed shameful to have such a president manage the affairs of the society.  And I am really happy to know that there are people like you who are fair and just in their thinking. Hats off to you !

 

Mr. Deepak Chaudhary,

In your mail below, you are making a point that other societies are charging about Rs.6-8 per sq ft for maintainence. For him I would like to humbly state that please wake up and get the real picture and do not comment on something that you are not aware of  - please calculate the total cost at this rate for a 3 BHK, it comes out approx rs.15000 Rs per month. 

 

DO YOU WANT TO PAY 15000 PER MONTH FOR THIS PLACE?. I AM SURE YOU DONT WANT TO  BUT I KNOW YOU WILL WANT TO CHARGE THIS TO TENANTS, ISNT IT ???

 

Which society charges this high? Societies across Gurgaon (Uniworld, Orchid Petals, Vipul Greens, etc) are charging maximum of Rs. 5k per month, which have beautiful infrastructure, with 3-4pools, 100% power backup, top of the line security, well equipped gym & club & other top facilities, ( all these charges are part of the monthly maintenance) which our society can just aspire to in future!

There are societies which are charging merely Rs. 500/pm for 80% power backup & similar facilities as our sispal vihar.

Mr. Deepak,

Please understand that anywhere in the world - any capital expense of any kind in a residential building is always paid by the owner. every owner of a flat anywhere in the world buys the flat from his own life savings... SO YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES TO BE DOING THIS. If you want to upgrade the gensets, its a capital expense and the owner has to incurr it. this is life and there is cost of living. You should have thought about this before buying this place.

But this doesnt mean that you extort money from someone using unfair means to make your life secure. If you cannot afford maintainence of clubs, etc then who is asking you to run a club.... dont run it but dont resort to unfair means like being partial.

If one day, All the flats get occupied by the owners, will you then say that charge only from others and not from me???

We tenants are also owners of flats in our respective home areas and we have always paid for any capital expense incurrred in our building. These are not passed on to tenants. The tenants only pay the monthly maintainence which are also charged in a very fair way and not like here where the maintainence for same size of flat is being charged differently to owners vis-a-vi tenants.
HOW IS THIS FAIR???? If people complain to the consumer court, please note that they will react very fairly.

You guys collect more than 30 lakhs per month as maintaience... where is all that money going??? You are saying that there is no money with the society....so where is all this money going? This 30 lakhs does not include the commissions from pool/gym/maids/iron wallah/children coaches/ property dealer/ shop rentals & charging for common parking areas (car parking etc) which is a huge amount in itself

Can you believe it....even the maids comin to work in the bldg were asked for a commission till recently. The car cleaners were asked for commission. Every vendor coming inside is asked for commisssion.... raddiwaala, paperwaala....etc.

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???

The poor maids hardly earn anything and you are sucking their blood.????

People (owners ) please wake up and ask for accounts and audits and you will see what is happening.

Mr.Rathee, ( PRESIDENT SAAB)

You keep talking about newly opened club - Please tell me what amenities are there in the club apart from the swimming pool and the ONE solo TT table. Is there anything else worth the money that you intend to make??? Do you have no conscience at all???

You want annual charges from only the tenants for this fully functional club of yours and then over and above that also charge them for every usage everytime?????? Can you get more ridiculous than this? 

You are demanding compulsorily this 5-10 K only from tenants for club charges and then saying that if we leave within one month or two month of paying the charges, 50% will be refunded but for this we have to give 3 months of notice before leaving else it wont be given.
Now, please apply your mind which I dont think you have - that a notice period for leaving a rented place is one month so how do we give 3 months notice for the refund.....
This shows your intentions....

and after that tenant leaves you will charge that amount again for the same flat.... PLEASE WAKE UP RATHEE.... FEAR GOD !

TOMORROW IF YOUR CHILDREN HAVE TO GO TO SOMEOTHER CITY AND BE ON RENT OR SOMETHING, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF THEY GET TREATED LIKE YOU TREAT THE PEOPLE HERE AND HOW WILL YOU FEEL IF YOU WERE ASKED TO PAY UNFAIR CHARGES???

The power situation is going downhill with the backup taking almost 30 mins to start, there have been numerous instances of kids/ elders having been rescued from the lifts!  We have no clarity on the units & the amount being charged for normal & backup power, this summer the cuts are over 15hrs! 33kva has not given any reprieve as being propagated by RWA, Our power bills have gone through the roofs, we have only 1 AC working for max 8 hrs per day & we are shelling close to 8k per month on account of electricity only . 

 We are going to complain to the consumer court against you - Mr.Rathee, that you  through the office do not share the electricity consumption details with the people who are paying for it. We have the right to know how many units we are consuming?? We will get an audit done and the meters checked and then it will be clear.

And for humanity sake Mr.Rathee, learn to live in a civilised society and in a humanely way. please learn how to talk to people, go and take classes if you have not learnt any lessons of living in a civil society. It is of complete shame that you had worked in the army. I had so much respect for  the army before I came to know a person like you.
So when you say in your mail below that people who bring bad name and shame to this building and army should be asked to leave the building then you are the first person who should be thrown out of this building. You certainly do not deserve to be amongst this civilised society. There are so many army people living in sispal vihar and my god....they are so gentle, well behaved, well dressed  that I just start respecting them the moment I talk to them. but this is not in your case.

Your actions have brought utter shame and disgust to the name of sispal vihar... and word has spread about what you do to the people living here and now there is general resentment amongst people all over gurgaon that Sispal vihar is a bad place to live...  the word is spreading through the offices where people living in sispal vihar are spreading through word of mouth as to how sispal vihar controlled by person like you is ruining the peace of people living here and now people dont want to shift here..... this is ultimately going to bring down the prpoperty prices and even the rentals of this place.

Now when the meeting date is coming close, you are getting the bldg maintained like the government people do by cleaning the roads just before the minister is about to come.
You shuold see how this work is being done in the bldg  - there are no lights in the lobby near the lift becuase the switches are bad and damaged....so your guys have taken off the switch and just did a temporary connection through open wires.... Anyone could get electrocuted.

AND YOU HAVE THE FACE TO INCREASE CHARGES WHILE THE MAINTAINENCE IS GOING TO THE DOGS?

In your mail below, you are saying that someone (tenants ) are enjoying at owners expense... with genset cost rising etc..... For your ifnormation, tenants are not living here for free, they are paying rent to owners so that owners enjoy more money and also paying maintainence for this building. So how are we enjoying at your expense?
The maintainence cost are decided based on certain parameters - facilities provided, amenities, etc... you cannot just on your whims and fancies and also on your greediness, levy unfair charges and that too only to tenants who are paying for the same zie of flats as yours or others.

 

WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS THAT YOU CAN CHARGE PEOPLE FOR USING CLUB FACILITY ON A PAY AS YOU USE MODEL AND NOT FORCE MANDATORY ANNUAL CHARGES + MONTHLY + PER USE ... 

Members,
Does this really seem right to you?

 

Dear Members,

Do you know, any notice related to charges, or meetings are pasted on the board without any signatures from anyone. Its only written ' Sispal Vihar, RWA" . This is illegal if you must know.

Other type of notices like celebrating a festival, camps, etc are properly signed by the concerned authority....  so then why not other types of notices.

For your information, no tenant was askng for voting rights, but after seeing the hera pheri done by this president, we wanted it but if everything is going fair and equal treatment is given to tenants, we do not want such rights.

This RWA has disabled the login ids of tenants on the sispal vihar website..... for your information these tenants are the residents for whom you have taken up this presidentship to serve them with honesty.... What are you trying to hide by not giving access to tenants???

Mr.Rathee is saying that tenants targetted only the president which is him but did you or the other esteemed members notice that the people have only complained against rathee's behaviour, hooliganism etc and not against the RWA. It is becuase of your behaviour with people that you are being treated with the treatment you deserve.  All the complaints against you in the police and court against your actions, gundagiri, voilence etc and no complaints are regarding anything civil or society affairs related.

 

Dear Members,

Did yuo know, on the orders of Rathee, the guards accompanied with gundas from outside knock on the doors of the tenants when the men are out for work and ask all sort of embarrasing questions to the women in the house under the pretext of finding out who is living where,etc.... The women just dont feel safe anymore with these guards...

So what kind of security is Rathee talking about when his security people themselves are a big threat to the people residing here.

 

Anyways....
This mail is to only notify all respected members of the activities of Mr.Rathee. Please go through the attached scanned copies .

 

regards

Nilesh Kadam

 

 

---------- Forwarded message ----------

 

 

From: ravindra rathee <http://in.mc1923.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rathee....@gmail.com>

 

 

Date: Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 9:56 PM

 

 WELL SAID, PLEASE TAKE A NOTE- SOMEONE ( TENANTS) ARE ENJOING ON OUR EXPENSES AND WHEN IT WILL BE OUR TERM ALL GEN SETS WHICH NOW COST SOCIETY WHOPPING 3 CRORES( COST WILL ESCALATE IN FUTURE) WILL BE OF NO USE OR OLD ENOUGH TO BE USED. RATHER WE SHOULD INCREASE FLOOR RENT AT PAR WITH OTHER SOCIETIES AND GIVE FULL POWER BACKUP.

 

 TENATS R AGAINST DIFFERENTIAL PAYMENTS OF CHARGES BETWEEN OWNERS AND THOSE ON RENT. GENTLEMEN, THIS FACTOR SHOULD REMAIN ANDSECONDLY THEY WANT VOTING RIGHTS WHICH AS PER BYLAWS REST WITH OWNERS ONLY.

 

  

HAVE FACTS CLEAR AND PLEASE DONT ALLOW TENATS TO HAVE  THEIR WAY AS TO HOW TO RUN SOCIETY. INSTANCES OF PHOTOCOPING OF PARKING STICKERS AND PASTING ON WINDSCREEN TO EVADE PAYMENTS HAVE BEEN OBSERVED AND SECURITY HAS BEEN TIGHTENED OTHERWISE CASES LIKE RAPE AND MURDER WILL BRING BAD NAME TO SOCIETY.

 

 

PLEASE STAND UNITED AGAINST TENANTS AND ATLEAST INVOLVE URSELF IN RUNNING THE SOCIETY RATHER THAN FIGHTING AMONGST URSELF FOR PETTY GAINS. ALSO GIVE FULL POWERS TO RWA TO GET HOUSE EVICTED WITHOUT APPROVAL FROM OWNER AS OWNER IS NOT AWARE OF TENANTS ACTIVITIES.

 

 

TO MY SURPRISE I FOUND LIMITED PEOPLE INVOLVING THEMSELVES IN THIS SITUATION AS EVERY ONE HAD IMPORTANT TASK TO DO ON THAT DAY, WHEREAS TENANTS COLLECTED IN LARGE NUMBER EVERY EVENING AFTER OFFICE HOURS TO PUT PRESSURE ON RWA AND SPECIALY THE PRESIDENT WHO WAS TARGETTED.

 

 

 

REGARDS

 

 

 

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:32 PM, deepak chaudhary <http://in.mc1923.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=chaudharyd...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

 

 

Dear friends,

 

 I would like to add couple of more issues which the allottees must know:

 

 

   -    In the past inadvertently the maintenence charges/other expenses like AMC charges for DGs etc  were kept low & large expenses had been written off from Capital which is mere 2 cr, and has been contributed by all allotees from their life savings.

 

 

The above anomoly has been corrected to some extent by the present RWA.

 

 

What instead should have been done, that all current expenses like maintenance/AMC etc should have been recovered from current users be it allottees or tenants so that Assetts for which all we have shared in the past for their replacement you always have equivalent amount deposited in capital.

 

 

 Secondly we need to create sufficient capital for our future needs when the time comes for replacement of these assets & also with the aim of creating new assets to make life worth living for long term users. The resources can only be generated from some assets the society collectively has ie., Shopping centre rentals, rentals from club, school etc....if these asstes are not utilised today..we shall never be able to generate funds for our long term capital requirements.

 

 

By subsidising our today we can all create problems for our future...the choice has to be excercised by us all allotees. As the time passes more & more of our brothers who are currently serving shall come to reside in the houses & what they are going to face is no worth while funds as capital..a detoriating asset base requiring immediate replacement no worth while fund generating mechanism.

 

 

Do excercise your vote for starting this today...or postpone this at our own peril..the choice is ours to make...so make it...but be delibrate...

 

 

The maintenance charges in similar colonies..nearby is 6-8 Rs per squarefeet. Where as we pay less than Rs 2/- per sq ft.

 

 regards

 

 Deepak

 

 

 -- On Mon, 30/7/12, ravindra rathee <http://in.mc1923.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rathee....@gmail.com> wrote:

 

 From: ravindra rathee <http://in.mc1923.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rathee....@gmail.com>

 

Subject: Re: Bad name and shame being brought to sispal vihar-AWHO, sector 49 , gurgaon by RWA president.

 

 

To: "Col Sanjiv Kumar" <http://in.mc1923.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=colsanj...@yahoo.in>

 

 

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Date: Monday, 30 July, 2012, 9:23 PM

 

 

 PLEASE HAVE THE FACTS CLEAR REGARDING PROBLEM IN SISHPAL VIHAR.  FORTUNATELY I WAS PRESENT ON THOSE DAYS ON LEAVE AND WAS SURPRISED ON HOW THE SOCIETY IS BEING TAKEN TO RIDE BY TENANTS (AS THEY R IN MAJORITY) AND FEW ALLOTTES R STAYING IN SOCIETY . WHO WILL PAY FOR THE VARIOUS FACILITIES PROVIDED IN CLUB ( NEWLY FUNTIONAL) NOT THE OWNER BUT THE TENANTS WHO R USING IT.

 

 

 SHOW UNITY TO FACE WITH PROBLEM AND NOT TO WASH OWN DIRTY LINEN. FORGET PERSONNAL PROBLEM AND HAVE FAITH IN RWA WHO IS TAKING BULL BY ITS HORN.

 

 RWA CONTINUE GOOD WORK BUT SLOWLY AND STEADILY.   CANT GIVE VOTING RIGHTS TO TENANTS BUT WILL LEASEN TO THEM.

 

 

PLEASE GIVE VACATION NOTICE TO TENANTS WHO WANT TO BRING BAD NAME TO SOCIETY AND TO ARMY IN PERTICULARS. DISCIPLINE HAS BEEN THE SENSE IN ARMY , DEAL WITH IT.

 

  

PLAESE  DONT SPREAD RUMOURS.

 

 

 REGARDS

 

 

RAVINDRA

 

 

J-604

 

  

On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Col Sanjiv Kumar <http://in.mc1923.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=colsanj...@yahoo.in> wrote:

 

 I  think there iks more than whazt meets the eye.

 

 

 

 

 

We need to have a meeting of all RESIDENTS and RWA to thrash out the misunderstandings and bad feelings.

 

 

 

 

 

Best Wishes & Regards

 

 

Col (Re- Inspired) Sanjiv Kumar

 

 

#9560774333

 

 

Have a Great Day Today.

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Wed, 11/7/12, KAVITA KHARB <http://in.mc1923.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kavitak...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

From: KAVITA KHARB <http://in.mc1923.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kavitak...@gmail.com>

 

 

Subject: Re: Bad name and shame being brought to sispal vihar-AWHO, sector 49 , gurgaon by RWA president.

 

 

To: "Amar Shergill" <http://in.mc1923.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=amit...@gmail.com>

 

 

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Date: Wednesday, 11 July, 2012, 1:42 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Mr Amar,

 

 

Its shocking to read this  if all this is true .

 

 

Sad!!! Thought we had a cultured president  inplace at Sispal Vihar .Hope we have got all the facts right

 

 

As for seperate charges for tenants and owners ,this is something which i too as an owner did not acceed to and hence resigned as an RWA member after the very first elections .

 

 

All are same and we have a huge kitty which can be utilised for all work and not look for fleecing anyone or as a profit making venture.Ideally all accounts should be audited from an external agency closed by residents and any society member can check accounts anytime.

 

 

Last year balance sheet had too many loopholes .

 

 

Lets be honest ,to others as well as to ourselves

 

 

 

 

 

Kavita

 

 

09810533905

 

 

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Amar Shergill <http://in.mc1923.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=amit...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

Dear  Members of Sispal Vihar.

 

 

 

 

 

With utter surprise and feeling of disgust, I forward the email below to you all. If what is described here is true, it speaks very poor of us collectively as we or our indifference /lack of concern would have chosen such a person as our representative.

 

 

I again say if it is true: it is disgusting. Hoping like hell that narration given in the email is false.

 

 

If, however, the contents of the email are true, I request the RWA office bearer to behave in a dignified manner and not like bandits as described in the email below. I request the owner-residents not to behave in an undignified manner by discriminating against tenants to subsidize maintenance expenses for 5% to 10% owner residents. If some owner resident is so hard up for whatever reason that he finds it difficult pay for his share, the RWA could exempt him to pay because of his hardships.

 

 

It is strongly recommended that RWA officials should behave in a civilised manner. Tenants should not be charged for something they are not using.

 

 

Regards

 

 

 

 

 

The below mail has been sent by a tenant, request you to kindling raise this issue from yr end to the relevant authorities. These kind of rwa tactics is making life difficult and unpleasant in the society

 

 

Regards

 

 

 

 

 

Sent from my Nokia phone

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

 

From:

 

 

Sent:  03/07/2012 11:35:41

 

 

Subject:  Fwd: Bad name and shame being brought to sispal vihar-AWHO, sector 49 , gurgaon by RWA president.

 

 

 

 

 

I have mailed the below mail complaining about rathee to the MD, Deputy MD

 

 

of AWHO. Atleast they should know whats happening.

 

 

If they decide to act against him, it will be a surprise :)

 

 

 

 

 

reqyest you all to also mail to AWHO people and RWA. Lets pressurise this

 

 

rathee from all sides.

 

 

---------- Forwarded message ----------

 

 

From:

 

 

Subject: Bad name and shame being brought to sispal vihar-AWHO, sector 49 ,

 

 

gurgaon by RWA president.

 

 

To: http://in.mc1923.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=m...@awhosena.in

 

 

Cc: http://in.mc1923.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dy...@awhosena.in, http://in.mc1923.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=se...@awhosena.in, http://in.mc1923.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=aw...@awhosena.in

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello,

 

 

 

 

 

It is with utter disappointment that I am writing to just let you know how

 

 

one man - a retired army officer who became the president of a residential

 

 

society is bringing shame and bad name not only to the residential society

 

 

but also to every institution concerned with this society.

 

 

 

 

 

Mr.Rathee who is the president of RWA of Sispal Vihar, AWHO sector-49,

 

 

Gurgaon has been harrassing the tenants living here since long, to the

 

 

extent that he thinks he is above law and considers himself the president

 

 

of India. He has the guts to go about hurling worst abuses to ladies,

 

 

hitting them, etc.

 

 

 

 

 

Just yesterday, he was arrested by the police because he ganged up with the

 

 

guards of the building and beat up a tenant with baton and chairs.

 

 

When the building members got to know about this, they gathered in big

 

 

numbers and called the police and had him arrested.

 

 

 

 

 

I was shocked and found it difficult to believe that Mr.Rathee is a retired

 

 

Army officer. Shame on him !!!

 

 

Does he think that tenants are poor homeless people that he can treat them

 

 

like this? I think he should know that all the tenants living in sispal

 

 

vihar are well to do , well educated people having their own BIG homes in

 

 

their home towns, who happen to be here in gurgaon for work only. They also

 

 

have rented out their own homes and treat their tenants with respect.

 

 

 

 

 

All this is happening becuase Mr.Rathee has been devising new ways to

 

 

extort money from the tenants somehow. The latest issue being charging a

 

 

mandatory club membership only from tenants. Why this step motherly

 

 

treatment towards the tenants?

 

 

every facitilty has more charges for tenants than for owners. The tenants

 

 

in Sispal vihar constitute about 95% of people living there.

 

 

 

 

 

When RWA doesnt invite votes from tenants living here for electing their

 

 

president becuase they dont consider tenants to be members, they dont give

 

 

any right to tenants to even discuss the unfair charges, then why shuold

 

 

they even talk to tenants or ask money from tenants for club charges. they

 

 

should be talking to the owners and not tenants.

 

 

 

 

 

By the way, the owners have already paid for club membership. So why double

 

 

charges from same flats for one thing?

 

 

 

 

 

the list of complaints against this Mr.Rathee is unending.

 

 

 

 

 

I AM WRITING TO YOU TO JUST COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS EX ARMY OFFICER, WHO IS

 

 

BRINGING BAD NAME AND SHAME TO AWHO. I have lost hope and do not expect

 

 

that you will do any thing in this matter. But just incase, you would like

 

 

to know.....

 

 

 

 

 

sasha bhatia cruz

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guys

hope you all have gone through the new topic posted by RWA on 12th Aug!
We all should login to our sispalvihar.in website and respond to this


RWA RWA (406 ) created new topic Important Society Issues
Category:Our Society
Important Society Issues Dear Residents, This letter is being written to share some facts about the important issues concerning our society. Power Back up We have all faced some difficult moments regarding power back up. The factual position concerning this matter is as under:- o The power equipment comprising generators, transformers, control panels and cables etc, inherited by the current RWA after taking over, were in a state of zero maintenance. o This was neither known to us nor were we briefed about it. o There is no record available about the past maintenance in the RWA office records and even the vendors were not able to show any documentary proof about maintenance tasks carried out by them. o Only record available was about the payments made for AMCs. o With the crucial equipment in such a state of neglect, problems were bound to happen. o The utter state of neglect of the cables which lay submerged in water in ducts for years and had lost their insulation created technical glitches on every day basis. The cables had been joined by ordinary insulation tapes in many places and short circuiting was bound to happen. This was one of the major reasons for the problems of power supply faced by us all. o The transformers, control panels, VCBs and ACBs which need to be serviced every 6 months have NEVER been serviced since their installation 4 years back. o The software for panels has not been taken over from AWHO by the then RWA . We were not informed about non availability of the same. With 33kva supply, recalibration was required to be done which was not possible without the software. o The original eqpt suppliers have simply washed their hands off and are not even reachable. o Other vendors, on finding us in such a tight corner, quoted very exorbitant rates (over Rs 50 lacs) to repair and service the equipment. This option was rejected as this would have required a special sanction from GBM. o 33KVA substation project had been making progress but our liaison helped it move to completion. However this substation, which is still under the control of AWHO and it still has many teething problems to be taken care of. AWHO has placed a caretaker at this substation but his frequent non availability at this substation, has also created many problems at critical moments. o Only we knew that we were facing a very alarming and nightmarish situation but we did not press the panic button. o With total focus on this issue we got the needful done, to the extent possible, at a reasonable cost of about Rs 4 lacs. Issue of servicing these equipments before onset of next summer has already been planned and finalized with the service provider. o This will be a statement of fact and not an exaggeration that we have, with our timely intervention, averted a catastrophic situation. o We would have faced a complete blackout with total failure of backup system. The issue of time taken for manual switch over to generators would then have appeared to be a very minor and trivial irritant. o Please note that the maintenance staff is only qualified to deal with the household electrical problems and many residents took out their frustration by abusing and even physically assaulting them. Lifts This is one area where the vendor has cornered us in such a way that we are completely dependent on him for spares and repair services and would continue to be so as long as we have this equipment. This has made them adopt arrogant and couldn’t care less attitude. The lifts should not have been taken over from AWHO without the long term maintenance contract. That was the time when we could have put pressure on AWHO and the company. But we failed to realize the gravity of this major issue and the problems this will lead to in future. Now we have to pay the price for that serious lapse. Contrary to the decision taken at the GBM in 2010, to cover the lifts under comprehensive AMC without spares, the lifts were placed under comprehensive AMC including replacement of parts. This may be a major reason for poor state of lifts today. The vendor got a license to freely remove the parts. Now we find that many major components of the lifts have been removed by the vendor and replaced with junk or barely serviceable parts which lead to frequent repairs. This is evident with an average of 14 lifts going out of order every day. This came to light when RWA President asked the vendor to produce the parts brought by them for repair of lifts. The parts produced by them were rusty and old. We feel our lifts which are barely 3 years old, may already have suffered heavily on account of this malpractice. These issues were discussed in many rounds with the senior level executives of the company. They demanded stubbornly an increase in AMC charges by 10%. We managed to keep the cost of AMC for this year at the same level as last year’s and have signed the agreement for another 4 years at 4% annual increase only. We would like to place on record our sincere appreciation of the help provided by Brig ( Retd) Virpal Singh with his active and voluntary participation in these negotiations. Brig (Retd) Virpal Singh brought authentic AMC amounts charged by the same vendor from DLF and others. There is a huge difference. We pay a lot more for our 3years old lifts for 12 floors than DLF does for 10 years old large - cabin lifts for 20 floors!!! This is happening despite the fact that AWHO is a huge customer for these lifts We are aware of the problems faced by many residents who had to suffer on getting stuck in the lifts. We have procured and fitted more than 100 EXIDE batteries in the lifts very recently to get over this problem. It may be interesting to note that we have procured the batteries recently @ rates 20% cheaper than what was paid last year. We have to live with the fact that with all the advancement in the field of science and engineering, zero-failure technology has not yet been invented, but with proper maintenance and monitoring systems in place, we hope to bring down downtime of our equipment. Water Supply This was one problem we had all faced last year. Residents had to carry buckets of water filled from water tankers, to their flats. The tankers came at a considerable cost. Our advance action of deep boring of the bore wells, timely maintenance of pumps and liaison for obtaining HUDA water helped us to give the residents trouble free water service not only for their flats but also for the swimming pool and fountains. Please note that the HUDA water supply started this summer and NOT in Oct last year as announced. Poor quality of material used by AWHO All the allottees must know that AWHO has permitted very poor standards of construction in our complex for very obvious reasons. Recently a slab fell from 12 the floor in the N block and there was no steel at all in the part which fell. Please see Col Deepak Gupta’s post on our website. In some manner we will pay a price for such shoddy civil and technical work. Property Dealers The state of turmoil and unrest in our complex during the last few months has been created primarily by the property dealers including retired officers and their family staying inside our complex. Property dealers find this society a very lucrative spot for making easy money. With the owners, who are serving officers, staying far away, the property dealers indulge in all sorts of illegal activities without any regard for welfare of this complex and its residents. All rules and regulations are defied with impunity. When we point out the illegal activity being carried out, we are openly told,” You can do whatever you want to,” and their activities continue. A lot of burden is placed on our resources and eventually we the allottees who chose to stay on here will be losers. Property dealers who are allottees are openly encouraging and supporting tenants to unite and trash everything being done by the RWA. They are doing so entirely for their selfish purposes. They do not care a bit for the damage they are doing to the society and other allottees. They are feeling restrained in their dubious activities by the actions of this RWA. Hav Ved Prakash Yadav, Surender Yadav s/o Nk Prem Kumar and Priyavarat Yadav s/o Col Mahipal are those who even though being allottes stood with the tenants during their agitation against society bye-laws. With all the earnings from this complex, have the property dealers done even one thing for the benefit of this society? If we fail to curb the harmful attitude of the property dealers we may end up paying a very heavy price for our inaction in this matter. Col Dondona’s Mail It may be worthwhile to read the letter placed on our website by Col (Retd) Dondona on 07 Aug. There are two group of residents in Sispal Vihar.One group is stake holders who have to live here permanently & will be losers if not protected. Other group is most vocal has no stake in the society & want to exploit the environment & the services by any means even using unethical means & exploiting the law. Let all stake holders unite against this unjust exploitation. Non stake holders have an advantage they can move out any time to what they think are better environment. RWA’s efforts for improvement We leave it to the residents to assess the condition of this complex as compared to what it was at the time when the present RWA took over barely 7 months back. With all the problems facing us, we have not shied away from taking difficult decisions to improve the quality of life here. In the GBM we shall place before you the Healthy state of our finances which has been achieved in barely 5 months of our taking over. Tremendous saving in expenses on diesel have been achieved. This could not have been achieved without good governance and hard work of our team. We have delivered 90% of the results given promised in our manifesto in 6 months. RWA has to follow the decisions taken by the GBM and this august body must insist that the decisions taken by them must be implemented. This needs a serious thought that unless we stand united in such matters we are bound to face serious problems. Diesel Expenses Immediately after taking over we brought this major cost component under focus and took commonsense steps to check and ensure that we were getting what we were paying for, and the results are there for everyone to see. A saving of nearly 14 Lacs in 3 months as per details placed below:- Previous year Current year (April 2011) : Rs. 5,20,288/- ( April 2012) Rs. 2,01,743/- (May 2011 ) Rs. 6,81,504/- ( May 2012) Rs. 56,196/- (June 2011) Rs. 7,79,358/- ( June 2012) Rs. 3,14,149/- Total ( Previous Year ) . 19,81,150/- Total Current Year Rs. 5,72,088/- Total savings in three months : Rs. 14,09,062/-. Conclusion We take this opportunity to assure all residents that all issues concerning your welfare and convenience are top priority issues for us. Our team is putting in whole hearted efforts to resolve all problems. If some problems persist, it is not because of lack of our efforts to solve them, but because of lack of cooperation needed. We are providing voluntary community service and solicit your whole hearted cooperation and active support. This letter is being written now after getting the power situation under control Otherwise it may have been misconstrued as an attempt to escape responsibility. . RWA Sispal Vihar
at 12 Aug, 2012 20:11 PM
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sasha cruz
9818684020

sasha bhatia cruz

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and pasting below some of the allottees response!


PAVAN DANDONA(S-0505
Posted 
14 Aug, 2012 10:08 AM

Well done Team Rathi.We should all cooperate to take this Society to greater heights.
 


Navdeep Singh Bindra(J-404
Posted 
14 Aug, 2012 01:47 AM

I have been staying in this society for 2 years plus. I can say for sure that a lot has happened in this society for good in last 7 months. To begin with HUDA water supply, 33KWA sub station, swimming pool opened, badminton courts on podium, Club infrastructure ready to be opened etc. However, when things seem to be going fine there is always a trouble lurking to just happen. Let me put a few things in perspective.

The current RWA has not been charging tenants anything exorbitant. They are just being charged the market rate for certain services. Yes, the owners have been given a discounted price for the same services. Otherwise, the General maintenance charges are the same for everyone. The differential prices are only for the Club facilities. Club membership is Non-transferable. Therefore, the Tenant needs to pay an amount to use the club facilities. The rates that are being charged to tenants by RWA for these club facilities are by any standards less than what is being charged elsewhere.

As far as Club membership is considered, this has been discussed in last GBM that club membership is mandatory for all tenants. Now the onus of communicating the same to the tenants lies with the owner. What I would suggest RWA is that they deal with owners directly. RWA should collect Club membership charges from the owner, whenever the house goes on rent. Let the owner collect the same in form of rent or whatever way from the tenant and allow the tenants to use Club. It’s a win-win situation for all.

Some of the tenants have no respect or bonding to the society or its RULES. They use foul language while dealing with the maintenance staff. They have even beaten them in past. They argue with the security staff at the gate for petty reasons and for every reason start abusing army people and their ways. It is invariably the President that gets to hear all the cheap adjectives. A few weeks back, one of these kinds of tenants removed Complaint phone receiver from the cradle and was fighting with the maintenance staff. Now, others start cursing the whole set-up for not answering their calls. There have even been instances where the tenants have sub-let the house without the knowledge of the Owners. Then the same owners run to RWA for help.

Col Rathee and his team have tried to curb this nuisance. I have attended all Interaction meetings with RWA. I know they have worked very hard to get the society where it is today. This RWA has interactive sessions on every last Sunday of the month. None of these so called cribbing tenants ever turn-up there. These temp residents (tenants) are not interested in what happens in the society. The ones who turn-up on these interaction sessions return satisfied with the logic and reasoning provided by RWA.

Yes, there are shortcomings aswell. However, present RWA team cannot be blamed for the deficiencies that they have got in inheritance from AWHO and or previous RWA. (Leaking pipes, low standard Gensets, not 100% power back-up, still no primary school, No software to service Gensets, and the list is long.)

Rajkapoor Mour(L-0103
Posted 
13 Aug, 2012 22:46 PM

Great job. We all must thank the Rathee team for such a wonderful work. let the residents see for themselves, the facts as brought out deserve to be appreciated. I do agree that if someone is sincere and genuine then it is a social service to actually work for the collective benefit of the society. We all know that the person in authority has to take hard decisions sometimes for the overall well being. Lets support the RWA in its efforts, but certainly we would expect it to be transparent in its dealings to gain the confidence of all. A genuine person will have least trouble coming clean...

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konark bhasin

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lets boycott all the activities of RWA. I got a circular today for an
event being organized tomorrow for independence day at the club. Lets
not attend any such events.

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Sachin Bhandari

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Bycotting , is fine but not for Independence Day Celebrations please.. our country is above all this .
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konark bhasin

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well i meant the evening dinner at the club organised by RWA

VIVEK GULIANI

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Sure,

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VIVEK GULIANI

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Will your conscious allow , sitting with President-Rathee & others  who are always devising means against tenants.
 
 
 
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rahul jain

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Aug 14, 2012, 1:56:14 AM8/14/12
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Yes we should not be prt of it 
Also show black flag as on independence day tenants freedom and rights are being challenged 


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Vinod Sachdeva

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Aug 14, 2012, 1:59:08 AM8/14/12
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We should not stoop to their level. Showing black flag is disrespect to the Independence day and not Rathi
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rahul jain

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Point taken 
Was just a thought on rathi 
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Abhishek garg

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My Point Is that society does not belongs to him, Society belongs to people who live in it (in reference of any celebration) , Tomorrow is a day of celebration so let us celebrate, now question is who is organizing it ?

 

this is disturbing and Vivek is right on that part that conscious might have a problem specially after knowing the “Zahar” he has for tenants but if you see todays’ post it seems he has a discomfort with anybody who is in opposition, he feels AWHO is corrupt or do not know how to design the buildings , old RWA’s are corrupt and inefficient , Lift company is chor , Generator company is chor , diesel utility people are chor, AWHO employee who is a watchman is responsible for electricity problem in our society. Basically he is making an environment that whole world is problem and only he is going to control the problems.

 

Bottom line is, his thinking orientation is wrongly directed and his thoughts are also misleading to people , let us not spoil our  Independence day and not boycott at least flag hosting (Y’day is a day to wear TIRANGA, why to wear Black for a sick man if that is the case).

 

Haan agar resistance hi offer karna hai to let’s send get well soon message to Mr. President.

 

BR

Abhishek

Gaurav @ Gmail

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Let’s wear a black strip on GBM day instead of on Independence day.

sasha...@gmail.com

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Guys think we also need to respond appropriately on on our society website,
<http://in.mc1923.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=konark...@gmail.com> >
<http://in.mc1923.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=awho-tenant-association@googl
egroups.com>
> Subject: Fwd: Sispal Vihar RWA president - Rathee arrested. COVERAGE IN
> TIMES OF INDIA AND HINDUSTAN TIMES (attached)
>
>
>
> Friends,
>
>
>
> I had tried sending the below mail to email ids of all the owners of
sispal
> vihar but it got bounced back probably becuase google thought its a spam .
I
> am getting delivery failures for all the email ids given below.
>
> How can we send it to all these IDs withouth google blocking it ?
>
>
>
> cheers
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Tenant Sispalvihar <sispal...@gmail.com
<http://in.mc1923.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sispal...@gmail.com> >
> Date: Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 3:28 PM
> Subject: Sispal Vihar RWA president - Rathee arrested. COVERAGE IN TIMES
OF
> INDIA AND HINDUSTAN TIMES (attached)
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VIVEK GULIANI

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FOR GBM

NOTICE

AGENDA FOR GBM

ANNEXURES I AND II , WHICH WERE ERRONEOUSLY NOT FORWARDED EARLIER ARE PLACED BELOW PLEASE.

    THE HARD COPY OF THE BALANCE SHEET HAS ALSO BEEN SENT TO YOU BY HAND. IN CASE YOU HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE SAME, PLEASE COLLECT IT FROM RWA OFFICE.

BUDGET FOR THE YEAR 2012-2013 PLANNED( ANNEXURE -I ) 

S NO

ITEM

ONE TIME COST

1.

CENTRAL AIR CONDITIONING FOR CENTRAL HALL

10,00,000

2. 

SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANT UPGRADATION

5,00,000

3. 

FIRE FIGHTING EQPT

7,00,000

4.

CCTV FOR ENHANCED SECURITY

10,00,000

5. 

ALTERATION WORK IN RWA OFFICE

2,00,000

 

 

TOTAL                                 34,00,000

 

 

SUMMARY OF MAINT EXPENSES ( ANNEXURE - II )

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VIVEK GULIANI

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From the GBM meeting agenda, RWA ia planning to increase the Maintenance to 2991/- as per their calculation.Below sentence is mentioned in the GBM Agenda-Annexure-II.

SUMMARY OF MAINT EXPENSES ( ANNEXURE - II )

Maint charges per flat per month                                    2,991

Total Expenses                                                      31,94,262 (Considering approx 1000 residents)

 

--- On Tue, 14/8/12, VIVEK GULIANI <vivek.g...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

ITEM

ONE TIME COST

Saurabh

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Aug 27, 2012, 5:07:58 AM8/27/12
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Hi ,

Has somebody seen the new society notice " Cabs and taxis are not allowed in the society from 1st of September." isnt stupid ?

Regards,
Saurabh Sharma
Associate Senior Manager – ISU Operations

VIVEK GULIANI

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Aug 27, 2012, 11:00:02 AM8/27/12
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Let us discuss with VP-Ahulwalia on coming Saturday.
Why will MEERU CAB/MANGO CAB/MEGA CAB aprk inside society?
What about the people exceeding  vehicle speed within society? Reason given for non entry of TAXIs.
They should catch hold of the people/vehicle who are parking  office  vehicle inside the society rather than circulating vague notice.
 
BR/Vivek guliani

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sispal...@gmail.com

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K so the notice is for office ppick up cabs and not for taxis like meru etc

Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone

From: VIVEK GULIANI <vivek.g...@yahoo.co.in>
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 23:00:02 +0800 (SGT)

Vinny Williams

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Am really confused... My wife is in eight month of pregnancy and our office cab picks us up...

With this new rule... She'll have to walk from f block till main gate... Is that justified...?
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 15:06:32 +0000

Sanjay Rawat

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I think these so called RWA peoples are mind less.
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 15:34:03 +0000

sasha...@gmail.com

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What a stupid rule, do they really have so much vela time for coming up with these nonsensicle rules. Is this valid for school cabs also?

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-----Original Message-----
From: Vinny Williams
Sent: 27/08/2012 21:04:03
Subject: Re: Un acceptable acts by RWA

Am really confused... My wife is in eight month of pregnancy and our office cab picks us up...

With this new rule... She'll have to walk from f block till main gate... Is that justified...?
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K so the notice is for office ppick up cabs and not for taxis like meru etc


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Vinny Williams

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sasha...@gmail.com

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Isn't it against the law, as per court directives, the companies are required to escort the ladies safely till their home, rwa can not override the law

Gaurav @ Gmail

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You are right Sasha but who have got that much of time to fight with this RWA?

This RWA keeps on bringing new laws without considering others. Also they have created such a discomfort in the society that nobody want to trust this RWA.

Sourabh

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I spoke to my landlord and discussed with him about these issues. He
said they are not aware of any such rules being imposed in AWHO and he
will be sending note to RWA. I think if we all can have confidence of
our landlord, then we can put strong protest on this notice.

On Aug 28, 9:24 pm, "Gaurav @ Gmail" <gpur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You are right Sasha but who have got that much of time to fight with this RWA?
>
> This RWA keeps on bringing new laws without considering others. Also they have created such a discomfort in the society that nobody want to trust this RWA.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: awho-tenant...@googlegroups.com [mailto:awho-tenant...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sashacru...@gmail.com
> Sent: 28 August 2012 21:13
> To: awho-tenant...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Un acceptable acts by RWA
>
> Isn't it against the law, as per court directives, the companies are required to escort the  ladies safely till their home, rwa can not override the law
>
> Sent from my Nokia phone
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vinny Williams
> Sent:  27/08/2012 23:30:20
> Subject:  Re: Un acceptable acts by RWA
>
> will this help?
>
> http://www.complaintboard.in/complaints-reviews/rwa-l41604.html
>
> > --- On Mon, 27/8/12, Saurabh <saurabh0...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > From: Saurabh <saurabh0...@yahoo.co.uk>
> > Subject: Re: Un acceptable acts by RWA
> > To: "awho-tenant...@googlegroups.com" <awho-tenant...@googlegroups.com>
> > Cc: "awho-tenant...@googlegroups.com" <awho-tenant...@googlegroups.com>
> > Date: Monday, 27 August, 2012, 2:37 PM
>
> > Hi ,
>
> > Has somebody seen the new society notice " Cabs and taxis are not allowed in the society from 1st of September." isnt stupid ?
>
> > Regards,
> > Saurabh Sharma
> > Associate Senior Manager – ISU Operations
> > DDI: +44 (0) 207 863 2929 / Mob: +91 9871296839 /www.colt.net
>
> > On 14 Aug 2012, at 15:01, VIVEK GULIANI <vivek.gulian...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
> > From the GBM meeting agenda, RWA ia planning to increase the Maintenance to 2991/- as per their calculation.Below sentence is mentioned in the GBM Agenda-Annexure-II.
> > SUMMARY OF MAINT EXPENSES ( ANNEXURE - II )
> > Maint charges per flat per month                                    2,991
> > Total Expenses                                                      31,94,262 (Considering approx 1000 residents)
>
> > --- On Tue, 14/8/12, VIVEK GULIANI <vivek.gulian...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> > --- On Tue, 14/8/12, sashacru...@gmail.com <sashacru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > --- On Tue, 14/8/12, Sachin Bhandari <sachin.bhand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Sachin Bhandari <sachin.bhand...@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: Un acceptable acts by RWA
> > To: awho-tenant...@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, 14 August, 2012, 10:51 AM
>
> > Bycotting , is fine but not for Independence Day Celebrations please.. our
> > country is above all this .
>
> > Regards,
>
> > -----------------------
>
> > Sachin Bhandari
>
> > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:50 AM, konark bhasin <konarkbha...@gmail.com
> > <http://in.mc1923.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=konarkbha...@gmail.com> >
> > wrote:
>
> > lets boycott all the activities of RWA. I got a circular today for an
> > event being organized tomorrow for independence day at the club. Lets
> > not attend any such events.
>
> > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Gaurav @ Gmail <gpur...@gmail.com
> > <http://in.mc1923.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gpur...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> >> Guys this Society is just for allottees and not for tenants or other
> > people
> >> who buy flat here. I think it is better to write about this Army managed
> >> RWA/society on internet about their behaviour and discriminations towards
> >> tenants and  civilians so that we can warn other people shifting to this
> >> society.
>
> >> Recent development by RWA is simply not acceptable. They are now asking
> >> landlords to tell the tenants to vacate the house specially who raised
> > their
> >> voice for justice.
>
> >> Regards,
>
> >> Gaurav
>
> >> From: awho-tenant...@googlegroups.com
> > <http://in.mc1923.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=awho-tenant-association...
> > egroups.com>
> >> [mailto:awho-tenant...@googlegroups.com
> > <http://in.mc1923.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=awho-tenant-association...
> > egroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Tenant
> >> Sispalvihar
> >> Sent: 13 August 2012 16:27
> >> To: awho-tenant...@googlegroups.com
> > <http://in.mc1923.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=awho-tenant-association...
> > egroups.com>
> >> Subject: Fwd: Sispal Vihar RWA president - Rathee arrested. COVERAGE IN
> >> TIMES OF INDIA AND HINDUSTAN TIMES (attached)
>
> >> Friends,
>
> >> I had tried sending the below mail to email ids of all the owners of
> > sispal
> >> vihar but it got bounced back probably becuase google thought its a spam .
> > I
> >> am getting delivery failures for all the email ids given below.
>
> >> How can  we send it to all these IDs withouth google blocking it ?
>
> >> cheers
>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: Tenant Sispalvihar <sispalten...@gmail.com
>
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