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Sudhanshu Chaturvedi

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Aug 14, 2011, 1:51:17 AM8/14/11
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Dear Col Ashok
My apologies for sending the request to a wrong addressee. Please do the needful.


Regards

Sudhanshu

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From: "Sudhanshu Chaturvedi" <sudhanshu....@prozone.co.in>
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 05:45:12 +0000
Cc: Kamlesh Chauhan<kchauh...@gmail.com>
Subject: Invite to Google group

Dear Col Ashok
Col Kamlesh Chauhan is a serving Gunner officer owning a flat in AWHO Phase 2. He wishes to join the group.
Would request you to kindly send him a invite.


Regards

Sudhanshu

Sent on my BlackBerry

From: "Rahulk Kumar" <rahu...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 12:38:45 +0530
Subject: RE: [AWHO-GreaterNoida] Sale of house in AWHO township

 

Yes that is true and I completely support the views below.

 

HOWEVER, that does not give the liberty to make unilateral rules not carrying the majority required for the same. Good deeds do not give allowance for making own laws.

And who’s interest is it? If keeping discipline is in the interest of all, selling the DU is also in the interest of occupants. Why do you have a rider to it. Surely before selling the buyer needs to be told and agreed to in writing to follow the RWA laws – what’s the big deal?

 

Selling and buying is individual requirement. If it was so strongly felt that none other than forces personals are to be owners then AWHO should specify. PROPERTY is financial security and at time of need it should be encashed with the best available price.

 

Rgds

rahul

 

From: AWHO-Gre...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AWHO-Gre...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rajan KOCHHAR
Sent: 13 August 2011 11:21
To: AWHO-Gre...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AWHO-GreaterNoida] Sale of house in AWHO township

 

 

I could not agree more with the views of Tich Bakshi.We need to sp the RWA in ensuring the colony does'nt convert into a civ dominance, which will be very unfortunate. We need to maint our own iden and must formulate strict rules on disposing off these flats. Our full hearted sp to the RWA on this issue.

regards

Brig Rajan Kochhar

Brig OS

HQ 21 Corps

H/No 1B/504

 

From: Tich Bakshi <tichb...@gmail.com>
To: AWHO-Gre...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 5 August 2011 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AWHO-GreaterNoida] Re: Sale of house in AWHO township

 

Gentlemen, 

I had ,after my last msg had resolved not to write as I was not sure as to what might be approved by the Powers for putting on the page. But present lopsided views about RNA's decision on sale of flats could not be ignored.

Consider this: 1      When we took over the Flats in 08, The rentals being offered were to the tune of 3000/- to 5000/- . With riff raff being the best clients. You could get students. coy employees rest rooms, Messes for students Etc.

              2      Sense of insecurity was acute as you could see the student hostel fights at all hours of day and night.
              3       Ladies and kids didn't feel safe particularly after sunset.

              4      Goons were known to threaten the security guards with fire arms and enjoyed free access to the colony. 

              5       The residents like me wee putting up a brave face on it but were deeply worried.Shrief logon ke rahane layak nahin thi yeh colony. Then how could you expect higher rentals and prices for flats?

              6        Such offrs as have bought these flats for investment  should not think that they can be allowed to make a fast buck and leave the resident members to live in an unruly colony of their creation. Sir, This is a home to a lot of your brethren who were not lucky enough to 'commandeer' sufficient resources to buy flats for investment in the colony and live elsewhere. 

              7       It was the steps taken by the RWA which have added value to living in your colony , Steps like stopping the student ingress, isolating and removing the unruly and immoral elements, organising better security, literally confronting and removing the outlaw elements including foreigners and making the colony safe for families Living here was not as bad as wild WEST but it was not a cake walk either.

              8      I do not hold brief for present RWA and I fight with them  whenever I go to 1H block (RWA Office) over line of action, actions in hand for improvement in the colony. So do others. But to give "Devil his due" I Back them over every positive action as do almost all the residents.

            All this because their actions are adding value to our property, raise rental values, bringing in better class of people into colony and trying to make it the best colony in the NCR.

   This is long winded , I will stop till next time. For heaven's sake stop trying cut your own feet.

 

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:27 AM, sudhanshu.chaturvedi <sudhanshu....@prozone.co.in> wrote:

 

Dear All

 

I completely agree with the views expressed by Col Bipin. Our intent of raising the issue of sale of houses is not to belittle the good work done by the RWA but to rectify something which we feel is our

 

legitimate right. On behalf of the group my apologies to Gen Sinha and other fellow brothers in RWA. Gentlemen please realize this is a thankless job the reward of which will be reaped by all of us.

 

Regards,

 

Sudhanshu

 

 

From: AWHO-Gre...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AWHO-Gre...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bipin Pandey
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 10:44 AM

Subject: Re: [AWHO-GreaterNoida] Re: Sale of house in AWHO township

 

 

I completely disagree and dissociate from the views expressed in the trailing email.

 

I live in Mumbai and since I have a flat in GVGN, I visit there every month for a week or so. I am, therefore, in the know of the work RWA is doing. 

 

To say that the RWA does not have members interest in mind is a statement made witho complete ignorance of the facts and ground situation as also complete ignorance of the the amount of hard work the RWA members have put in to improve the living conditions. The work done is there for everyone to see.

 

In the long run I also intend selling the flat. I am personally of the view that sale of flats should be allowed to respectable citizens of the country whether from the uniformed fraternity or outside of it. 

 

We, in uniform, are considered well mannered gentlemen and respected for that by most in the civil society. Least we could do is put across our points of view in a forceful yet gentlemanly manner.

 

 

Best Regards,

Bipin Pandey

 

 

 

From: Manoj Sharma <majmano...@gmail.com>
To: AWHO-Gre...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 3 August 2011, 9:20
Subject: [AWHO-GreaterNoida] Re: Sale of house in AWHO township

 

I dont think RWA would have passed such a resolution arbitarily. There is restriction on sale from AWHO (army) for a period of time there after AWHO does not lay down any restriction on the nature of buyer i.e Army/ civilian........ as the property value appreciates, there will be no buyers from only defence forces....would like to see how many army officers can afford to pay the market value and in white....This restriction is illegal aould be challenged in court of law....... .what happens if some one requires money for his daughters marriage/ wifes or self medical treatment and cant find an ARMY Buyer. Best solution is change all the RWA members who do not have the members interest in mind while framing such rules..

 




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Sanjeev Chhikara

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Aug 15, 2011, 2:30:17 AM8/15/11
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Dear Member,
 
Please add me to the Group.
My views on the RWA desire to control the resale/renting of the flats has been fwd to one of our group. Same produced below:
1. The MCs/RWAs intention for control on sale/purchase/renting is tatally absured. This is neither warrented nor legal. Also the MC must info all members before any AGM is called. It is mendatory to ciulate the ageda for the AGM or any important meeting of the MC as per the society bye laws. The also can not take major financial decisions, these affect all members and need to be discussed and approved by the AGM. The AGM is the supreme body and not any RWA/MC.
2. The MC/RWA must be compelled to circlate complete details of the Society Accounts. Every detail of income and expenditure has to be asked if not provided. Generally, the bigger societies have lesser maintenance charges.
3. A draft letter to the Deputy Registrar with a copy to the MD, AWHO is attached to this mail. I shall request the members to give their views/suggestions/recommendations to refine it. We can collectively forward this if agreed and the RWA is adament. Since we are posted in far flug areas, I would request General Arora Sir to guide us please.
4. My due apology to the President of the society, General Sinha Sir, for whom I personally have very high regards, if I have caused any hurt.
Regards to all Members,
SK Chhikara

 

 
SK Chhikara
 
From: Sudhanshu Chaturvedi <sudhanshu....@prozone.co.in>
To: awho-g...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011 11:21 AM
Subject: AWHO-GrNoida_ Fw: Invite to Google group
Dear Col AshokMy apologies for sending the request to a wrong addressee. Please do the needful.
RegardsSudhanshuSent on my BlackBerry
From: "Sudhanshu Chaturvedi" <sudhanshu....@prozone.co.in>
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 05:45:12 +0000
Cc: Kamlesh Chauhan<kchauh...@gmail.com>
Subject: Invite to Google group
Dear Col AshokCol Kamlesh Chauhan is a serving Gunner officer owning a flat in AWHO Phase 2. He wishes to join the group.Would request you to kindly send him a invite.
RegardsSudhanshuSent on my BlackBerry
From: "Rahulk Kumar" <rahu...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 12:38:45 +0530
Subject: RE: [AWHO-GreaterNoida] Sale of house in AWHO township
 
Yes that is true and I completely support the views below.
 
HOWEVER, that does not give the liberty to make unilateral rules not carrying the majority required for the same. Good deeds do not give allowance for making own laws.
And who’s interest is it? If keeping discipline is in the interest of all, selling the DU is also in the interest of occupants. Why do you have a rider to it. Surely before selling the buyer needs to be told and agreed to in writing to follow the RWA laws – what’s the big deal?
 
Selling and buying is individual requirement. If it was so strongly felt that none other than forces personals are to be owners then AWHO should specify. PROPERTY is financial security and at time of need it should be encashed with the best available price.
 
Rgds
rahul
 
From: AWHO-Gre...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AWHO-Gre...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rajan KOCHHAR
Sent: 13 August 2011 11:21
To: AWHO-Gre...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AWHO-GreaterNoida] Sale of house in AWHO township
 
 
I could not agree more with the views of Tich Bakshi.We need to sp the RWA in ensuring the colony does'nt convert into a civ dominance, which will be very unfortunate. We need to maint our own iden and must formulate strict rules on disposing off these flats. Our full hearted sp to the RWA on this issue.
regards
Brig Rajan Kochhar
Brig OS
HQ 21 Corps
H/No 1B/504
 
From: Manoj Sharma <majmano...@gmail.com>
To: AWHO-Gre...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 3 August 2011, 9:20
Subject: [AWHO-GreaterNoida] Re: Sale of house in AWHO township
 
I dont think RWA would have passed such a resolution arbitarily. There is restriction on sale from AWHO (army) for a period of time there after AWHO does not lay down any restriction on the nature of buyer i.e Army/ civilian........ as the property value appreciates, there will be no buyers from only defence forces....would like to see how many army officers can afford to pay the market value and in white....This restriction is illegal aould be challenged in court of law....... .what happens if some one requires money for his daughters marriage/ wifes or self medical treatment and cant find an ARMY Buyer. Best solution is change all the RWA members who do not have the members interest in mind while framing such rules..
 



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Sanjeev Chhikara

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Aug 15, 2011, 2:33:58 AM8/15/11
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Dear Member,
Please add me to the Group.
My views on the RWA desire to control the resale/renting of the flats has been fwd to one of our group. Same produced below:
1. The MCs/RWAs intention for control on sale/purchase/renting is tatally absured. This is neither warrented nor legal. Also the MC must info all members before any AGM is called. It is mendatory to ciulate the ageda for the AGM or any important meeting of the MC as per the society bye laws. The also can not take major financial decisions, these affect all members and need to be discussed and approved by the AGM. The AGM is the supreme body and not any RWA/MC.
2. The MC/RWA must be compelled to circlate complete details of the Society Accounts. Every detail of income and expenditure has to be asked if not provided. Generally, the bigger societies have lesser maintenance charges.
3. A draft letter to the Deputy Registrar with a copy to the MD, AWHO is attached to this mail. I shall request the members to give their views/suggestions/recommendations to refine it. We can collectively forward this if agreed and the RWA is adament. Since we are posted in far flug areas, I would request General Arora Sir to guide us please.
4. My due apology to the President of the society, General Sinha Sir, for whom I personally have very high regards, if I have caused any hurt.
Regards to all Members,
SK Chhikara
 
From: Sudhanshu Chaturvedi <sudhanshu....@prozone.co.in>
To: awho-g...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011 11:21 AM
Subject: AWHO-GrNoida_ Fw: Invite to Google group
Dear Col Ashok My apologies for sending the request to a wrong addressee. Please do the needful.
Regards Sudhanshu Sent on my BlackBerry
From: "Sudhanshu Chaturvedi" <sudhanshu....@prozone.co.in>
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 05:45:12 +0000
Cc: Kamlesh Chauhan<kchauh...@gmail.com>
Subject: Invite to Google group
Dear Col Ashok Col Kamlesh Chauhan is a serving Gunner officer owning a flat in AWHO Phase 2. He wishes to join the group. Would request you to kindly send him a invite.
Regards Sudhanshu Sent on my BlackBerry
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Kulwant Brar

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Aug 15, 2011, 3:14:33 AM8/15/11
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Dear Sirs,
 
 
I may kindly br added to the group.
 
 
Yours sincerely,
 
 
Lt Col KS Brar (Retd)
 


--- On Mon, 15/8/11, Sanjeev Chhikara <schhik...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Dear Col Ashok Col Kamlesh Chauhan is a serving Gunner officer owning a flat in AWHO Phase 2. He wishes to join the group. Would request you to kindly send him a invite.
Regards Sudhanshu Sent on my BlackBerry

Ashok Bhatia

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Aug 15, 2011, 4:17:20 AM8/15/11
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i fully agree & endorse my support in the spirit in which this letter is drafted.
do u want me to sign it & send it where.

col. ashkok bhatia.
09316023777

Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 12:03:58 +0530
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Maj Gen RK Arora

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Aug 16, 2011, 6:28:47 AM8/16/11
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You are already a member at this addrsess


 
On 15 August 2011 12:44, Kulwant Brar <ksb...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Q

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Aug 24, 2011, 2:12:29 AM8/24/11
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Could any officer please advise me on the update on the restrictions on selling the apartments to army officers only. 

I heard that some had filed a case in the high court challenging the restriction. Any outcome?

kind regards

Capt Sanjeev
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