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Varun Soneja

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RWA should make the following mandatory .

 

  1. All DU owners including the small minority “civilian” owners currently must take the flat with them to their heavenly abodes.
  2. If the above cannot be done then the RWA must make it mandatory for DU owners to insist that their legal heirs must join the Defence Forces.
  3. If the above cannot be done then the RWA must insist that the DU owner must bequeath the property to AWHO on their passing.

 

Civilian ownership is an inevitable situation which will happen if not now or gradually but ultimately yes. One must create a conducive environment and live and thrive  harmoniously in his surroundings.

 

The case of respected Col Chauhan is extremely unfortunate. It was a perfect example of how someone with power(the ADM in question) abused his position and was able to make absolutely false accusations and influence the system to take his side initially. Hopefully the Judiciary will see through the farce and deliver justice. However the cause for which Col Chauhan had raised his voice  regarding the unauthorised construction should have been handled by the Noida RWA in the first place. Had the Noida RWA taken up Col Chauhan’s case of fighting against the unauthorised construction with the authority the result just might have been different. Using cases or examples like these to illegally attempt to block onward sales is extremely unfortunate and does not fare well.

 

It is not that only civilian owners will abuse their seat of power. It is not only that Civilian owners will make unauthorised construction or modifications to the interior or even exterior of their apartments. It is not that only civilian owners will make false accusations.

Then

Why the hatred ? Why the acrimony ?

 

It is not my intention to hurt anyone’s feelings or insult any one individual or group but rather to just to try and highlight the obvious.

 

Peace to all !!!

 

Varun Soneja.

 

 

 

 

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·         SGBM Points for Consideration - 4 Updates

Sanjeev Chhikara <schhik...@yahoo.co.in>: Sep 06 11:58AM +0530

Dear Members,
 
Agenda Points : SGBM on 09 Sep2018
 
1. Transfer/Disposal of Apartment. The following points must be considered in the SGBM scheduled on 03 Jun 2016:
a) After possession - sale of the apartment/DU will be as per terms and conditions of eligibility and applicability as announced during the launch of the project, as per the AWHO rules.
 
b) As per AWHO sale to only Army personnel is applicable in respect of DUs/projects planned after 01 Jan 2014.
 
c) In case of AWHO-Greater Noida Project, the disposal of apartments/DUs will be as per Para 80 to 82 of the Master Brochure Jul 87 (as amended upto 29 Feb 2004). Para 80 (b) of the Master Brochure quote "the allottee may be permitted to sell his DU to any one (civilians) after three years from the date of possession or one year from the date of retirement, which is earlier. No other restriction will apply".

d) To amend the bye-laws, Prior Approval of AWHO is must.
 
(E) In view of above, the bye- laws can not amend the above terms and conditions for Disposal of Apartment/DUs.
(f) directions of the Registrar must be implemented by the RWA in this matter which clearly and unambiguously states that the DU owners have absolute right to sell/purchase/renting...they can sell/rent their property to any Indian citizen.....RWA’s role is restricted to common area maintenance and management....RWA has no role whatsoever in managing the individual DUs and why should RWA act like property brokers? RWA must not further the interest of select few.....one thing must be very clear that the defence related facilities (csd, ECHS etc) can only be utilised by people entitled for the same......not by civilian residents or tenants.
 
2. Payment of amount equal to 2% of transfer/sale value to the RWA for obtaining "No Dues Certificate" is illegal and unjustified and amounts almost blackmailing the non resident owners. Should be objected......directions of the Registrar must be implemented by the RWA and not more than 0.5% be charged by either AWHO or RWA.......both agencies must not act like brokers.
 
3. Certain clauses are framed just to favour only resident members and grossly against the non resident members. Non resident members must object all such clauses with all force.
 
4. Quorum. It can not be restricted to presence of one third of the living members only. This is the major reason that views of non resident are ignored and they are put in total disadvantage.. An owner is legal member and his vote has equal weightage whether he resident or non resident member. Even a non resident member enjoys each and equal right in the society at par with the resident members, no one should have any doubts in it.And lastly, every allotted of the society is equal member irrespective of rank structure of the armed forces (be he a sepoy or a General), we all must understand this fact for better community living.
Construction of School.....let the AWHO handle it.
 
Pardon me if I have harsh in use of language.
Regards to all Members
 
Sanjeev
 
 
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devendrakjoshi <devendr...@gmail.com>: Sep 07 05:25AM +0530

Certain issues are fine, but sale to civilian citizens is not an idea that should be accepted.
Some of us for the sake of more money want to create the mess that Noida is in.
 
 
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-------- Original message --------From: 'Sanjeev Chhikara' via AWHO-GrNoida <awho-g...@googlegroups.com> Date: 9/6/18 11:58 (GMT+05:30) To: awho-g...@googlegroups.com Subject: AWHO-GrNoida_ SGBM Points for Consideration
Dear Members,
 
 
Agenda Points : SGBM on 09 Sep2018
 
 
1. Transfer/Disposal of Apartment. The following points must be considered in the SGBM scheduled on 03 Jun 2016: 
    a)   After possession - sale of the apartment/DU will be as per terms and conditions of eligibility and applicability as     announced during the launch of the project, as per the AWHO rules.
 
 
    b)  As per AWHO sale to only Army personnel is applicable in respect of DUs/projects planned after 01 Jan 2014.
 
 
    c)  In case of AWHO-Greater Noida Project,  the disposal of apartments/DUs will be as per Para 80 to 82 of the     Master Brochure Jul 87 (as amended upto 29 Feb 2004).  Para 80 (b) of the Master Brochure  quote "the allottee     may be permitted to sell his DU to any one (civilians) after three years from the date of possession or one year from the date of     retirement, which is earlier.  No other restriction will apply".
    
    d)   To amend the bye-laws, Prior Approval of AWHO is must.
 
 
    (E) In view of above, the bye- laws can not amend the above terms and conditions for Disposal of     Apartment/DUs.
(f)  directions of the Registrar must be implemented by the RWA  in this matter which clearly and unambiguously states that the DU owners have absolute right to sell/purchase/renting...they can sell/rent their property to any Indian citizen.....RWA’s role is restricted to common area maintenance and management....RWA has no role whatsoever in managing the individual DUs and why should RWA act like property brokers? RWA must not further the interest of select few.....one thing must be very clear that the defence related facilities (csd, ECHS etc) can only be utilised by people entitled for the same......not by civilian residents or tenants. 
 
 
2.  Payment of amount equal to 2% of transfer/sale value to the RWA for obtaining "No Dues Certificate" is illegal and unjustified and amounts almost blackmailing the non resident owners. Should be objected......directions of the Registrar must be implemented by the RWA and not more than 0.5% be charged by either AWHO or RWA.......both agencies must not act like brokers.
 
 
3.  Certain clauses are framed just to favour only resident members and grossly against the non resident members.  Non resident members must object all such clauses with all force. 
 
 
4.  Quorum.  It can not be restricted to presence of one third of the living members only.  This is the major reason that views of non resident are ignored and they are put in total disadvantage.. An owner is legal member and his vote has equal weightage whether he resident or non resident member. Even a non resident member enjoys each and equal right in the society at par with the resident members, no one should have any doubts in it.And lastly, every allotted of the society is equal member irrespective of rank structure of the armed forces (be he a sepoy or a General), we all must understand this fact for better community living. 
 
Construction of School.....let the AWHO handle it.
 
 
 
Pardon me if I have harsh in use of language.
Regards to all Members
 
Sanjeev
 
 
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Kiraninder Brar <ksbr...@hotmail.com>: Sep 07 01:57AM

Agree with all the points.
Regards.
 
On 6 Sep 2018 11:58, 'Sanjeev Chhikara' via AWHO-GrNoida <awho-g...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
 
Dear Members,
 
 
Agenda Points : SGBM on 09 Sep2018
 
 
1. Transfer/Disposal of Apartment. The following points must be considered in the SGBM scheduled on 03 Jun 2016:
 
a) After possession - sale of the apartment/DU will be as per terms and conditions of eligibility and applicability as announced during the launch of the project, as per the AWHO rules.
 
 
b) As per AWHO sale to only Army personnel is applicable in respect of DUs/projects planned after 01 Jan 2014.
 
 
c) In case of AWHO-Greater Noida Project, the disposal of apartments/DUs will be as per Para 80 to 82 of the Master Brochure Jul 87 (as amended upto 29 Feb 2004). Para 80 (b) of the Master Brochure quote "the allottee may be permitted to sell his DU to any one (civilians) after three years from the date of possession or one year from the date of retirement, which is earlier. No other restriction will apply".
 
 
 
d) To amend the bye-laws, Prior Approval of AWHO is must.
 
 
(E) In view of above, the bye- laws can not amend the above terms and conditions for Disposal of Apartment/DUs.
 
(f) directions of the Registrar must be implemented by the RWA in this matter which clearly and unambiguously states that the DU owners have absolute right to sell/purchase/renting...they can sell/rent their property to any Indian citizen.....RWA’s role is restricted to common area maintenance and management....RWA has no role whatsoever in managing the individual DUs and why should RWA act like property brokers? RWA must not further the interest of select few.....one thing must be very clear that the defence related facilities (csd, ECHS etc) can only be utilised by people entitled for the same......not by civilian residents or tenants.
 
 
2. Payment of amount equal to 2% of transfer/sale value to the RWA for obtaining "No Dues Certificate" is illegal and unjustified and amounts almost blackmailing the non resident owners. Should be objected......directions of the Registrar must be implemented by the RWA and not more than 0.5% be charged by either AWHO or RWA.......both agencies must not act like brokers.
 
 
3. Certain clauses are framed just to favour only resident members and grossly against the non resident members. Non resident members must object all such clauses with all force.
 
 
4. Quorum. It can not be restricted to presence of one third of the living members only. This is the major reason that views of non resident are ignored and they are put in total disadvantage.. An owner is legal member and his vote has equal weightage whether he resident or non resident member. Even a non resident member enjoys each and equal right in the society at par with the resident members, no one should have any doubts in it.And lastly, every allotted of the society is equal member irrespective of rank structure of the armed forces (be he a sepoy or a General), we all must understand this fact for better community living.
 
1. Construction of School.....let the AWHO handle it.
 
 
Pardon me if I have harsh in use of language.
 
Regards to all Members
 
 
Sanjeev
 
 
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arun gupta <aruno...@yahoo.com>: Sep 07 07:45AM +0530

Totally in agreement. There should be no question of selling to civilians and making our beautiful place a hell.
 
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