Minutes of the Meeting; 28.9.2011
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Sep 28, 2011, 4:10:07 PM9/28/11
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A meeting for existing members of AWAZ was organised on Wednesday, 28th of September 2011 at 1:30 PM in the Faculty of Law lawns. The meeting was chaired by Convenor Nisha. Members present:
Junaid
Anubhav
Vivek
Anurag
Lipi
Kamlesh
The Chair expressed her disappointment at the lack of communication between AWAZ members and stressed the importance of regular interaction between all members so as to create a sense of team spirit within the group.
For this above purpose, the Chair proposed a resolution making it necessary for AWAZ to convene a meeting once a week. After due deliberation, the day, time and venue of this weekly meeting were fixed as Wednesday, 1:30 and Faculty of Law lawns. The proposal was unanimously adopted by all members present by a simple vote.
Thereafter, the Chair urged members to be punctual for meetings and requested all to inform any of the organising body - the Convenor or any of the two Co-Convenors - in advance should they be unable to attend any particular meeting.
Moving on, the Chair, in conjunction with Vivek, acquainted the meeting with developments regarding booking of CLC's seminar room for the proposed AWAZ talk. The matter has been forwarded to relevant Law Faculty authorities through the Legal Aid Society of the same and apparently a final decision will be taken after the forthcoming vacations. The date for this talk as of now is tentatively 15th October.
Thereafter, the Chair put forward a motion to distribute AWAZ Times 2011 to new members as well as to the student community at large, arguing that the group needn't wait till the talk for the same to be launched. This was contested by Vivek and Anubhav who argued that since we have waited so long - even if pointlessly as the latter pointed out - to do this, we might as well as wait a few more days. After some discussion, it was decided to make copies of AWAZ Times 2011 available to new members. All of these can collect the same from Nisha and deposit rupees ten for the same.
At this stage, Vivek informed the group of the forthcoming dharna for better implementation of the provisions of the RTE Act, 2009 being organised on the 9th of October, 2011 at Rajghat, New Delhi from 10 Am to 1 PM. This dharna is being organised by the All India Parents Association along with Social Jurists; advocate Ashok Agarwal figures as one of the major organisers of the same. This protest is demanding upgradation of all government schools all over the country to the level of Central Schools and enactment of central law to regulate fees in unaided private schools. AWAZ unanimously decided to support this cause and make and put up posters for the said dharna in as many places as possible in North Campus as well as to publicise the same through social networking.
Vivek took leave from the Chair to leave the meeting for his class. He was granted permission.
Anubhav urged the meeting to deliberate upon topics for filing RTIs, qualifying further by suggesting such topics be suggested which could be constructively utilised for some larger purpose thereafter. The following topics were suggested by various members:
a) Powers and duties of DUSU members (Kamlesh)
b) Funding of and for central and/or national law universities/institutes/faculties (Anurag)
c) Girls Hostels in DU (Lipi)
d) Anonymous Law Faculty
e) Admission policy in Law Faculty (Anubhav)
f) JNU's IR entrance exam's details (Junaid)
g) Percentage of hostels for students in central universities with sub clause regarding number of seats reserved for Law Faculty students in Jubilee Hall and their distribution criteria (Nisha)
Tentatively, bracketed members will be responsible for filing these RTIs, though it was decided that all would pitch in and share their research to formulate evocative queries that would generate optimum response. It was further decided that these RTIs would be filed after the forthcoming October vacations, during which members will do research and formulate queries.
No other matter remaining, the meeting was dissolved at 3:00 PM. The next meeting will be on the 12th of October, 2011 at 1:30 PM in the Faculty of Law lawns.
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AWAZ
Junaid
Anubhav
Vivek
Anurag
Lipi
Kamlesh
The Chair expressed her disappointment at the lack of communication between AWAZ members and stressed the importance of regular interaction between all members so as to create a sense of team spirit within the group.
For this above purpose, the Chair proposed a resolution making it necessary for AWAZ to convene a meeting once a week. After due deliberation, the day, time and venue of this weekly meeting were fixed as Wednesday, 1:30 and Faculty of Law lawns. The proposal was unanimously adopted by all members present by a simple vote.
Thereafter, the Chair urged members to be punctual for meetings and requested all to inform any of the organising body - the Convenor or any of the two Co-Convenors - in advance should they be unable to attend any particular meeting.
Moving on, the Chair, in conjunction with Vivek, acquainted the meeting with developments regarding booking of CLC's seminar room for the proposed AWAZ talk. The matter has been forwarded to relevant Law Faculty authorities through the Legal Aid Society of the same and apparently a final decision will be taken after the forthcoming vacations. The date for this talk as of now is tentatively 15th October.
Thereafter, the Chair put forward a motion to distribute AWAZ Times 2011 to new members as well as to the student community at large, arguing that the group needn't wait till the talk for the same to be launched. This was contested by Vivek and Anubhav who argued that since we have waited so long - even if pointlessly as the latter pointed out - to do this, we might as well as wait a few more days. After some discussion, it was decided to make copies of AWAZ Times 2011 available to new members. All of these can collect the same from Nisha and deposit rupees ten for the same.
At this stage, Vivek informed the group of the forthcoming dharna for better implementation of the provisions of the RTE Act, 2009 being organised on the 9th of October, 2011 at Rajghat, New Delhi from 10 Am to 1 PM. This dharna is being organised by the All India Parents Association along with Social Jurists; advocate Ashok Agarwal figures as one of the major organisers of the same. This protest is demanding upgradation of all government schools all over the country to the level of Central Schools and enactment of central law to regulate fees in unaided private schools. AWAZ unanimously decided to support this cause and make and put up posters for the said dharna in as many places as possible in North Campus as well as to publicise the same through social networking.
Vivek took leave from the Chair to leave the meeting for his class. He was granted permission.
Anubhav urged the meeting to deliberate upon topics for filing RTIs, qualifying further by suggesting such topics be suggested which could be constructively utilised for some larger purpose thereafter. The following topics were suggested by various members:
a) Powers and duties of DUSU members (Kamlesh)
b) Funding of and for central and/or national law universities/institutes/faculties (Anurag)
c) Girls Hostels in DU (Lipi)
d) Anonymous Law Faculty
e) Admission policy in Law Faculty (Anubhav)
f) JNU's IR entrance exam's details (Junaid)
g) Percentage of hostels for students in central universities with sub clause regarding number of seats reserved for Law Faculty students in Jubilee Hall and their distribution criteria (Nisha)
Tentatively, bracketed members will be responsible for filing these RTIs, though it was decided that all would pitch in and share their research to formulate evocative queries that would generate optimum response. It was further decided that these RTIs would be filed after the forthcoming October vacations, during which members will do research and formulate queries.
No other matter remaining, the meeting was dissolved at 3:00 PM. The next meeting will be on the 12th of October, 2011 at 1:30 PM in the Faculty of Law lawns.
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AWAZ
Anubhav Pradhan
Oct 5, 2011, 2:04:57 PM10/5/11
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Dear all,
Attached is the first draft of the RTI that I'm supposed to file. I don't quite remember who suggested this idea and what was their rationale behind it, so I will be grateful for feedback. This is a bit generic as of now.
Also, over the next few days, can we all post the first drafts of the RTIs we're all supposed to file so that we can all see them and finalise them within, say, the next week or so?
Finally, a motion: can the coming meeting - on 12th ie - be postponed to 13th? Same time and venue, just that I'll be out of town and if we're going to finalise RTI filing and matters related to the upcoming talk I'd like to be present.
Anubhav
jacob george
Oct 6, 2011, 1:52:14 AM10/6/11
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hi Anubhav
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i just checked your RTI..some suggestions..
1. be clear about what it is that you want from the Department and what it is that you want to share with the people outside through AWAZ..is it just the migration statistics or a deeper analysis of migration patterns which may be discriminattory?..
2. ask for notification, letter, request, instructions, order, rules etc when asking for official papers..
3. i think it would be better to ask not just the migration pattern of students per se but also their background (general,sc/st,obc) that is if you want a more detailed analysis..
Adv. Jacob
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anurag ojha
Oct 7, 2011, 2:35:45 AM10/7/11
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Dear Anubhav,
Though unsolicited suggestions are preposterous but to share it with friends is duty to 'collective wisdom'-hence,
1-The migration pattern is legitimate you may check the university ordinance ,(in web-under subtitle -'act and statutes')but 'the basis of consideration for migration 'is very bizarre and to some extent it is based on 'favoritism' ,sometimes even most needy and outstanding student fails to get 'situation demanding migration'-so please append an issue concerning the 'criteria ' for migration. and how many of them have been denied 'having locus based on same substratum' -with reason for denial
2-This year a secret second time application submission for migration after migration was allowed without official notice and migration have been finalized second time without giving equal opportunity to all .you ,please ask the reason .
apart from it ,though it reflects 'carelessness' but is unavoidable-that i wiil reach delhi by 10oct,hence will fail to attend 9th oct event.
Hope u all understand.
soon ,u will get my RTI draft-on layering in legal institution
Though unsolicited suggestions are preposterous but to share it with friends is duty to 'collective wisdom'-hence,
1-The migration pattern is legitimate you may check the university ordinance ,(in web-under subtitle -'act and statutes')but 'the basis of consideration for migration 'is very bizarre and to some extent it is based on 'favoritism' ,sometimes even most needy and outstanding student fails to get 'situation demanding migration'-so please append an issue concerning the 'criteria ' for migration. and how many of them have been denied 'having locus based on same substratum' -with reason for denial
2-This year a secret second time application submission for migration after migration was allowed without official notice and migration have been finalized second time without giving equal opportunity to all .you ,please ask the reason .
apart from it ,though it reflects 'carelessness' but is unavoidable-that i wiil reach delhi by 10oct,hence will fail to attend 9th oct event.
Hope u all understand.
soon ,u will get my RTI draft-on layering in legal institution
Anubhav Pradhan
Oct 7, 2011, 3:43:07 AM10/7/11
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Dear Jacob and Anurag,
Thanks a lot for the much needed feedback. I really had no idea what I could've done with this particular RTI so (and this for you Anurag) instead of being preposterous this is quite welcome. I will incorporate all of this and revert.
Anubhav
PS - Anurag, I'm going to out too. The meeting was scheduled for the 12th and I'll come back 13th morning. Which is why I was hoping we could postpone the meeting to 13th.
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