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converting 2d plan dwg to 2d isometric

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Art Garcia

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Nov 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/22/99
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I have a 2d plan dwg with a lot of piping. I'm need to create an
isometric 2d dwg with the
least amount of time. I can turn off the unnecessary layers and rotate
my view to show the
the isometric view I want. However, I cannot show my risers without
changing my coordinate system. Is there a way (within r14) to create a
2d drawing of the rotated view?


Tim Decker

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Nov 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/22/99
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unfortunitly rotating the view of a plan will not create an isometric or an
oblique, because of a skew in the vertical dimensions of an object. in an
iso the left, right, and top

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need to maintain all of there dimensions, changing the view plane shortens
the dimension around it's rotation. making it appear like an iso, however
plotted out it's measurements will not be maintained.

Paul Furman

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Nov 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/22/99
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Axonometric would be simpler, just rotate the view & add "vertical"
extensions. Type UCS 3POINT to set the new view angle & type PLAN to twist
your view. Isometric will require completely new drafting.

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Alfredo Medina

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Nov 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/22/99
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Tim,

Let me disagree. I don't understand how the procedure you have described can
turn a 2d plan into an isometric. Where is the Z axis, or a simulation of it,
in your method, so that the isometric can show the idea of volume? How is it
possible to find the true dimension of each segment in your isometric? That
is what an isometric is supposed to be. Iso means equal. Isometric =equal
measure; it means that all the true dimensions of the object, seen in an
orthographic view remain the same when seen in the isometric view. The length
of the object is drawn on one side, the width on the opposite side, and the
height in the middle, vertically. Without reduction nor distortion. Also, all
parallel lines in the orthographic view remain parallel in the isometric.
None of these principles are present in the method that you have described.

Alfredo Medina
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Alfredo.

Tim Carden wrote:

> Hi
> converting a drawing to an isometric is possible.
>
> 1. rotate dwg (object) in question by 45degrees
>
> 2. turn into a block (insertion point the same as rotation base point)
>
> 3. insert block into drawing
> 3.1 choose insertion point
> 3.2 x scaling facton 0.707
> 3.3 y scaling factor 1.24
> 3.4 rotational angle -30degrees
>
> experimemt with 3.4 and swop 3.2 and 3,3 around.
> for full scaling factors contact me www.cadrent.co.uk
> tim
> Art Garcia <aga...@bathgroup.com> wrote in message
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Tim Carden

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Nov 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/23/99
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Tim Carden

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Tim Decker

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Nov 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/23/99
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technically an isometric is a 30 degrees, 45 degrees would be what is called
and oblique, see earlier post on axonometric for a rotated view drawing.

Jaysen Long

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Nov 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/23/99
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You can switch to one of the preset isometric views then move or copy the
plan linework to an elevation. Using osnaps you can draw the risers in the Z
direction without having to switch your UCS. As an example, I've used this
technique to draw isometric views of non-standard curb ramps.

Jaysen

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Jaysen Long

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An isometric drawing is an axonometric drawing (along with dimetric and
trimetric).

Jaysen

Paul Furman wrote in message <38398979...@edgehill.net>...


>Axonometric would be simpler, just rotate the view & add "vertical"
>extensions. Type UCS 3POINT to set the new view angle & type PLAN to twist
>your view. Isometric will require completely new drafting.
>
>Art Garcia wrote:
>

>> I have a 2d plan dwg with a lot of piping. I'm need to create an
>> isometric 2d dwg with the
>> least amount of time. I can turn off the unnecessary layers and rotate
>> my view to show the
>> the isometric view I want. However, I cannot show my risers without
>> changing my coordinate system. Is there a way (within r14) to create a
>> 2d drawing of the rotated view?
>

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