autocad over vpn

[Levent Onen]

I have configured a VPN connection for an A & E firm. They can access dwgs
on their file server. The problem is that saving the files takes a very
long time (close to a minute one user complaines). I was wondering if there
are any best practices articles or whitepapers to optimize using Autocad
over VPN someone can refer me to. Someone on a newsgroup talked about a
check-in, check-out product. Any ideas?

I tried google but couldn't come up with much. Also some people mention
setting up a TS server for this purpose but others mention licensing issues.
Has anyone got any experience using a TS server for running Autocad though
that might be a budge issue for this firm.

Thanks.

[Jimmy Bergmark]

What AutoCAD version?
What is the VPN connection speed?

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"Levent Onen" <leven...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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[Levent Onen]

Jimmy:

ACAD Version is 2000. Would the newer versions be more suitable for any
reason?

VPN: Bandwidth is an issue as the location is far from the CO and the ony
company that offers DSL, doesnt offer SDSL. The service is supposed to be
512 down / 256 up but there is no QoS gurantee. I know that this is a
little low for VPN but there is very little traffic (only 5 users, 3 of
which use AutoCAD or VPN connections.)

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[Cy Shuster]

"License borrowing" is a feature in AutoCAD 2004 that lets a user run
AutoCAD without being connected to a network (by "checking out" a network
license). It doesn't seem to apply in this case; it sounds like you're just
trying to speed up the time to save a file to the network drive.

Your network speed is very slow, compared to the 10000 down you probably
have in the office. Adding VPN takes further bandwidth. How long does it
take to simply copy the file to the server, outside of AutoCAD? I'll bet
it's nearly the same as saving from within AutoCAD. That's the problem you
have to solve.

Were you looking for a solution that would let the user check out a .DWG
from the server and update it locally, perhaps?

--Cy--

"Levent Onen" <leven...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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[Levent Onen]

> Your network speed is very slow, compared to the 10000 down you probably
> have in the office. Adding VPN takes further bandwidth. How long does it
> take to simply copy the file to the server, outside of AutoCAD? I'll bet
> it's nearly the same as saving from within AutoCAD. That's the problem
you
> have to solve.
>

Cy,
Thanks very much for your help.

Network speed? I meant the internet connection speed to be 512 kbps. What
do you mean by 10 000 down? Are you talking about a 10 Mbps internet
connection. That would have to be an optical connection that is out of
reach for any small business. Or are you talking about the ethernet switch
and NIC speeds on the Lan. If so everything runs on 100 Mbps devices.

> Were you looking for a solution that would let the user check out a .DWG
> from the server and update it locally, perhaps?
>

Well yes, if this would minimize saving needs over a VPN connection and
avoid any file corruption if the VPN connection was disconnected. In other
words, users would download files they want to work on, check the out, do
their work, save, autosave locally and only post back to the server when
they are done. But how would XRefs work in this scenario, I am not so sure?

Thanks again for your help.

[Jimmy Bergmark]

AutoCAD 2004 and 2005 creates smaller DWG files. And this of course speed up
things.
Other than that you have to look at a document handling system that can
handle check in/out of documents.
Working with xrefs and making sure that the size of them are kept small
might speed up things. Take a look at XLOADCTL.

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"Levent Onen" <leven...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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[Jimmy Bergmark]

Conisio is one. www.conisio.com

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Best Regards, Jimmy Bergmark
CAD and Database Developer Manager at www.pharmadule-emtunga.com
Take a look at
JTB FlexReport (FLEXlm report tool) - www.jtbworld.com/jtbflexreport
SmartPurger (Purges automatically) - www.jtbworld.com/?/smartpurger.htm
or download some freeware at www.jtbworld.com
More on AutoCAD 2005;
www.jtbworld.com/autocad2005.htm

"Levent Onen" <leven...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> Thanks Jimmy,
> Do you have a document handling system you would recommend?

>
> "Jimmy Bergmark" <in...@jtbworld.com> wrote in message

> news:40560cc9$1_3@newsprd01...

[Levent Onen]

Thanks Jimmy,
Do you have a document handling system you would recommend?

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[Cy Shuster]

"Levent Onen" <leven...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> > Your network speed is very slow, compared to the 10000 down you probably
> > have in the office. Adding VPN takes further bandwidth. How long does
it
> > take to simply copy the file to the server, outside of AutoCAD? I'll
bet
> > it's nearly the same as saving from within AutoCAD. That's the problem
> you
> > have to solve.
> >
>
> Cy,
> Thanks very much for your help.
>
> Network speed? I meant the internet connection speed to be 512 kbps.
What
> do you mean by 10 000 down? Are you talking about a 10 Mbps internet
> connection. That would have to be an optical connection that is out of
> reach for any small business. Or are you talking about the ethernet
switch
> and NIC speeds on the Lan. If so everything runs on 100 Mbps devices.

Yes, I'm talking about 10/100 LAN speeds. Back to the original problem: the
user says it's "slow" saving the file. This is all relative; "slow"
compared to what? Certainly not compared to 14.4 dialup! My benchmark for
a 10 meg LAN is that a file copy of a one meg file takes nine seconds (using
the DOS command line).

What is the problem you're trying to solve?

Narrow the situation down. Compare saving over the VPN in AutoCAD to simply
copying the file over VPN. Compare that to copying the file somewhere else
without the VPN. Work from the bottom up: check for errors on the basic
network connection; those are a huge performance hit. Measure the speed
(you said there was no QoS guarantee; what speed do you measure using
www.dslreports.com or other tools?). Tweak the clients for broadband
performance (see the tweak tools at dslreports). Check the performance of
your VPN, and see what settings are available there.

I very much doubt that it matters whether AutoCAD is saving the file or any
other app (although as Jimmy pointed out, AutoCAD 2004's smaller files will
obviously save faster). In any case, you've got to know what your base
network is doing. Any problems there will simply bubble up into every other
app.

--Cy--

[JonM._Schneider]

Did you ever find a solution for this?

[ferrer...@gmail.com]

I have issues as well working from out of the office. I understand that opening, saving, and working with files over VON will be slower, but my issue extends to the program itself. Simple tasks such as just selecting an entity can take many seconds to register,the undo command can take 30+ seconds to complete. Entering into any command can take 10-20 seconds to register, where as when I am at the office all of this is instantaneous.

I borrow a licence, I work from my local drive, but still the program is so slow I can't use it. I am running 2016.

Anyone seen this before? I am totally stumped by this.