Alcohol in Zilker Park
Import Car Fan
I finally got back a response to my question
from the City of Austin. According to the
Parks Police, "Special events get a waiver
from the director of Parks and Recreation
Dept. that allows them to have alcohol."
This particular event is the Blues on the
Green sponsored by KGSR.
Import Car Fan <dsh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> I was told that alcohol was not permitted in
> Zilker Park. Last Wednesday I attended a
> concert in the park where I saw numerous
> people drinking beer and wine. There were
> a few police officers standing around and they
> had no apparent interest in enforcing this rule.
> Can anyone offer an explanation for this
> apparent non-enforcement of the no-alcohol
> rule?
>
>
>
arw
>
> I finally got back a response to my question
> from the City of Austin. According to the
> Parks Police, "Special events get a waiver
> from the director of Parks and Recreation
> Dept. that allows them to have alcohol."
>
> This particular event is the Blues on the
> Green sponsored by KGSR.
Doesn't anyone else find it astonishing that Mommy and Daddy City of Austin
dares to regulate us like parents?
When oh when are Americans going to wake up that we are not free men and
free women, but rather slaves, protectorates, and children of the Government
in all its Levels?
Answer: probably never. Pathetic.
Alan
Dusty Rhodes
>
> I finally got back a response to my question
> from the City of Austin. According to the
> Parks Police, "Special events get a waiver
> from the director of Parks and Recreation
> Dept. that allows them to have alcohol."
>
> This particular event is the Blues on the
> Green sponsored by KGSR.
Damn straight. I love Guy Forsyth, but I ain't about to be watching him in
the 100 degree sun without something cold, wet, bubbly, alcoholic and hoppy.
Cheers,
Dusty
Mapi
Those old harpy busybody bitches who have evolved into a giant nanny
orginization of old spinsters who want to legislate all the fun out of life,
with strong religious temperance attitudes just underneath the surface.
Mapi
"arw" <arw...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Steve Wertz
>
> I'm beginning to actively hate MAD.
It's MADD.
> Those old harpy busybody bitches who have evolved into a giant nanny
> orginization of old spinsters who want to legislate all the fun out of life,
> with strong religious temperance attitudes just underneath the surface.
And as usual, you're wrong.
-xw
Earl Cooley III
>I'm beginning to actively hate MAD.
>
>Those old harpy busybody bitches who have evolved into a giant nanny
>orginization of old spinsters who want to legislate all the fun out of life,
>with strong religious temperance attitudes just underneath the surface.
>
>Mapi
Instead of MADD, we need MADCPU: Mothers Against Drunk Cell Phone
Users. heh.
--
e=sc^3 (sh...@io.com) Earl Cooley III
Mapi
And the same can be said about our puritanical laws regarding nudity, sex,
drugs, bicycle helmets,
child-proof caps and all the nonsense things enacted by anus-tight,
anal-retentive religious and nanny suns-
of- bitches who always think then know best for you and me or push their own
defective, moronic agenda upon the rest of us.
Get rid of MADD now!
mapi
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> But what about the point that we have never really recovered from
> prohibition? Other western industrialized countries have far lower
> drinking ages, far fewer restrictions regarding alcohol consumption,
> and far fewer problems with drinking and driving. You can buy beer
> at a McDonalds in Madrid.
>
> More than half a century after prohibition was abolished, the US is
> still riddled with archaic, puritanical laws stemming from the
> prohibition era: "dry" counties, govt controlled liquor stores, limited
> operating hours, crazy licensing, etc.
>
> Let the law punish the irresponsible. Don't let it fall victim to a
> bunch of puritanical contrivances.
>
Robert Schroeder
Mapi <Ma...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Very true.
>
> And the same can be said about our puritanical laws regarding nudity, sex,
> drugs, bicycle helmets,
> child-proof caps and all the nonsense things enacted by anus-tight,
> anal-retentive religious and nanny suns-
> of- bitches who always think then know best for you and me or push their
own
> defective, moronic agenda upon the rest of us.
>
> Get rid of MADD now!
>
> mapi
This all came about in the very early 1980's when the conservatives started
to move in. Heck, I remember a time when women could go topless at Barton
Springs Pool (not that I cared.....but they did)
Austin use to be such a lovely liberal city, ruined by republicans and their
ilk....
Robert in Austin
Mapi
"Robert Schroeder" <RSCHR...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> Austin use to be such a lovely liberal city, ruined by republicans and
their
> ilk....
>
> Robert in Austin
>
>
You're placing the blame in a misdirected area.
It's the religious wacko conservatives that fuck up everyone's good times
and freedoms.
And it's a fact that the republicans have been blamed for catering and being
beholden to the Taliban wing of the religious conservatives, it is also a
fact that there are lot more democrats than republicans who put down on
surveys that they are religious, frequently go to church etc.
So, while it's fun to blame the wacky wacko right wing assholes of the
Republican party, in all truth it's just as much or more so the fault of
democrats too.
So, thus said, it is really neither a republican or democrat's fault for our
loss of personal freedoms as regards to sex, liberty, drinking, smoking,
dancing and all the things that a free people enjoy in life, but it's the
minority of religious assholes who wield far more power than their teeny
"silent majority", which really is a teeny minority, than they should.
They wield the same kind of power that blacks and Hispanics wield with
politicians, which astounds me at the stupidity of politicians.
Blacks and Hispanics have to be coerced and dragged screaming to the poll
booths to vote, and they vote in such low numbers that a sizable minority of
gays (like in Houston) will constantly out-poll them.
Same with the trailer trash right wing religious conservatives.
So why do the politicians forget about the core constituency of the white
and Asian women and men in the middle to upper middle class who vote in
overwhelming numbers according to demographics?
It's a puzzle.
The same puzzle is how the greenies and liberals on our city council could
let a few fanatic religious assholes dictate if we have a nude park,
drinking at concerts etc.
mapi
Steve Wertz
Most states have laws that you must be 21 to *serve* or *sell* beer
also. Not many people over 21 working at McD's, let alone speaking
english. I remember at the checkstands at the grocer, the registers
knew how old the clerk was and refused to let them scan my Jack
Daniels. They'd have to call for anther checker to run it over the
scanner and physically place it into a bag.
> More than half a century after prohibition was abolished, the US is
> still riddled with archaic, puritanical laws stemming from the
> prohibition era: "dry" counties, govt controlled liquor stores, limited
> operating hours, crazy licensing, etc.
Aye. It's much worse in Tex-ass, though. I've never seen so many beer
commercials, advertisements, and labelling promoting 'Beer For Texas'.
Like 'Dos Equis' put the "X's in Texas; or Miller's 'True to Texas'
campaign, etc...
They love to promote beer here in Texas (that's why they limit the hours
on Liquor).
-sw
Earl Cooley III
wrote:
>Aye. It's much worse in Tex-ass, though. I've never seen so many beer
>commercials, advertisements, and labelling promoting 'Beer For Texas'.
>Like 'Dos Equis' put the "X's in Texas; or Miller's 'True to Texas'
>campaign, etc...
Because peoples' attitudes about their home state are much stronger
than normal in Texas, such Texascentric advertizing works.
the wharf rat
Mapi <nos...@this.address.com> wrote:
>So, while it's fun to blame the wacky wacko right wing assholes of the
>Republican party, in all truth it's just as much or more so the fault of
>democrats too.
Hmmm, so, it's those damned liberal Democrats who are ruining
the country with their right wing religous conservativism?
I'm having a little trouble parsing that statement.
More apropos, I have no trouble with the idea of banning alcohol
at public events. The most peaceful events I've ever been to were the
alcohol free (not necessarily DRUG free, mind you) events. Alcohol is
a terrible drug for social occasions... Too many people have too much trouble
controlling it.
Steve Wertz
Why just beer, though? Why not Beef and Milk, too? (Does a Body Good!).
BTW: I think I made a mistake. 'Trie to Texas I think is LoneStar's motto ;-)
-sw
Steve Wertz
> More apropos, I have no trouble with the idea of banning alcohol
> at public events. The most peaceful events I've ever been to were the
> alcohol free (not necessarily DRUG free, mind you) events. Alcohol is
> a terrible drug for social occasions... Too many people have too much trouble
> controlling it.
I agree, mostly. This is why you charge $5 a beer if you choose to serve beer,
refuse coolers and baskets, and frisk everybody on the way in.
My favorite irony in Austin is the Old Walnut Street festivals. The
24-Hour Shop sells a better selction of 24oz beers for $2, while the
stands sell cheap, flat, 15oz'rs for $4.
OBAlcoholBans: The ban on Public Consumption is lifted especially for those
festivals, but it's still *possible* to get a ticket, if you piss off the wrong
captian at the drunk tank, errr.. I mean .. The 'Dunk' tank. I'm still fighting
that one...
-sw
Amy
> on Liquor).
>
> -sw
I really miss those Lone Star Beer commercials. They had some great ones.
"I know about the giant armadillo!"
--
Amy
People of zee wurl,relax...Sailor Boy
D. Cook
> Most states have laws that you must be 21 to *serve* or *sell* beer
> also. Not many people over 21 working at McD's, let alone speaking
> english. I remember at the checkstands at the grocer, the registers
> knew how old the clerk was and refused to let them scan my Jack
> Daniels. They'd have to call for anther checker to run it over the
> scanner and physically place it into a bag.
When I was 18, it was legal for me to sell beer or wine. I didn't work
in a place with a hard liquor license, though, so that might have been a
different can o' worms.
Steve Wertz
It musta just been OH. NJ and PA. In California though, I just
remember concession stands at Flea Markets and Amusement Parks,
and such, that couldn't serve people under 21. Convenience stores
too. Gotta be 21 to work at a 7-11 or Stop & Rob & Go.
-sw
suzanne
>I really miss those Lone Star Beer commercials. They had some great ones.
>"I know about the giant armadillo!"
My favorite: Beer so good they named a state after it.
Suzanne
Amy
--
Amy
People of zee wurl,relax...Sailor Boy
"Steve Wertz" <swe...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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Motorblade
>>
In dallas i started drinkin at 13 by standing away from the bar and havin
someone else brang me the beer
Steve Wertz
>
> In Texas you have to be 18 to serve beer, 21 to buy it.
Even at concession stands, though?
-sw
Amy
15. Actually, I usually got into bars just fine and was able to buy beer.
You just had to know where to go. Smaller out of the way places were easier
to buy at than the big in places.
--
Amy
People of zee wurl,relax...Sailor Boy
"Motorblade" <motor...@aol.comnohype> wrote in message
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Amy
concerts at the Schmirnoff in Dallas. Sometimes my son comes out and helps.
He and anyone else under 18 is not allowed to serve the beer or even take
the money for it. Anything involving alcohol has to be handled by an adult.
--
Amy
People of zee wurl,relax...Sailor Boy
"Steve Wertz" <swe...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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Doug McLaren
Dusty Rhodes <te...@CUTITOUTtexas.net> wrote:
| Damn straight. I love Guy Forsyth, but I ain't about to be watching
| him in the 100 degree sun without something cold, wet, bubbly,
| alcoholic and hoppy.
Hmm. Does she have a sister?
(:
--
Doug McLaren, dou...@frenzy.com
Money may not buy happiness ... but It sure makes misery easier to live with.
Robert Allison
>
> Late 70s early 80s? Just wondering. I was doing the same thing when I was
> 15. Actually, I usually got into bars just fine and was able to buy beer.
> You just had to know where to go. Smaller out of the way places were easier
> to buy at than the big in places.
>
> --
> Amy
I started drinking in bars when I was 14. I looked 14 too. That
was 1968. I had heard about people having all kinds of trouble
getting into bars and being carded and all that, but never had that
problem even once. Just walked across the bridge into Matamoros,
walked into any bar and started drinking whatever you wanted. It
did cost a penny to cross and 5 cents to get back though. I had
accounts at 4 bars over there by the time I was 16. Mexico and the
beach, probably the only 2 good things about the valley.
--
Robert Allison
Georgetown, TX
Motorblade
73-77
Steve Wertz
> Damn straight. I love Guy Forsyth, but I ain't about to be watching him in
> the 100 degree sun without something cold, wet, bubbly, alcoholic and hoppy.
An toad off the wagon?
-sw
he...@there.com
>Very true.
>
>And the same can be said about our puritanical laws regarding nudity, sex,
>drugs, bicycle helmets,
>child-proof caps and all the nonsense things enacted by anus-tight,
>anal-retentive religious and nanny suns-
>of- bitches who always think then know best for you and me or push their own
>defective, moronic agenda upon the rest of us.
>
>Get rid of MADD now!
Have you heard of DAMM? Drunks Against Mad Mothers. I heard the
original founder of MADD was thinking of joining.
he...@there.com
wrote:
>"D. Cook" wrote:
When I was 18, in Texas, I could legally purchase any kind of alcohol
in any type of establishment that sold it. I never tried but I assume
that I could also sell it if that had been a part of my job.
he...@there.com
wrote:
><< In Texas you have to be 18 to serve beer, 21 to buy it.
> >>
>
>
>In dallas i started drinkin at 13 by standing away from the bar and havin
>someone else brang me the beer
In corpus I started drinking at 13 by going to the rec center at the
navy base. With short hair I looked like a swaby. I guess the Navy
guys that served me weren't much older and didn't really give a damn.