Library Internet Access for Central Texas
Ima Dillo
>The Texas State Library offered grant funding (total $910k) for libraries
>in this state to offer public Internet access for citizens.
So does this mean that the Austin Public Library will soon be accessible
on-line? It doesn't sound like it. If I understand the post, it only means
the libraries will have terminals for use by citizens wishing to access
OTHER on-line information. We need to have the library itself on-line, as
is being done in many large city library systems. It would have been
especially useful to people doing research in this period when the libraries
main branch has been shut down for six months and may not be back
in service for another six months.
UT has its libraries on-line, but for whatever reason, they do NOT allow public
access--which seems
a violation of public access rights in light of the fact that they are a public
institution. They can NOT restrict use of their libraries by denying non-academics
access, so why they are not accessible on the net is questionable.
Ima Dillo.
Alton Pouncey
: In article <4e4b5b$r...@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, gcr...@itp.sqi.utexas.edu says...
They don't restrict access to their libraries. If I remember correctly,
non-students can have access to the libraries for a $25 fee (to get a
library card) - just like you have to pay if you don't live in Austin to
access the APL. They don't howver have to make their catalog available
AT ALL on the net if they don't want to - how many other public libraries do?
: Ima Dillo.
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Gene Crick
The Texas State Library offered grant funding (total $910k) for libraries
in this state to offer public Internet access for citizens. (Note this is
not intended for dialup access competing with commercial providers but for
people, esp. rural, who might have little other opportunity for introduction
to the Internet.)
The State Library received 54 applications, representing 186 libraries and
341 locations, for the FY96 Internet Assistance Grants. The total amount
requested was just under $3.1 million. The State Library and Archives
Commission will award the grants at their meeting January 26.
This afternoon the TSL evaluation group announced that five library projects
were recommended for funding. These include one application to provide access
for 21 Central Texas libraries (sponsored by MAIN, cooperating with Austin Free
Net) and another application to provide 50 access stations throughout the city
of Austin at every public library location (sponsored by Austin FreeNet, also
partnered with the Austin Public Library and MAIN.)
This is good news for Central Texas. It will offer people who might not be
able to explore the Internet a chance for help and access. Many of them will
no doubt go on to develop an interest and skills with online resources.
We appreciate this support of Internet access for everyone by the Texas State
Library.
gene crick
president, Metropolitan Austin Interactive Network
Ajit George
Ima Dillo (Arm...@shell.com) wrote:
: UT has its libraries on-line, but for whatever reason, they do NOT allow public
: access--which seems
: a violation of public access rights in light of the fact that they are a public
: institution. They can NOT restrict use of their libraries by denying non-academics
: access, so why they are not accessible on the net is questionable.
They don't restrict access to their libraries. If I remember correctly,
non-students can have access to the libraries for a $25 fee (to get a
library card) - just like you have to pay if you don't live in Austin to
access the APL. They don't howver have to make their catalog available
AT ALL on the net if they don't want to - how many other public libraries do?
I don't know about Net access, but you can access the UT library
catalog from Rice's library in Houston. The same system also accessed
the libraries of UH, Texas A&M, Houston Public Library, and several
others, so I assume you can get to UTCAT from those libraries as well.
Actually, a quick look at UT's web server yields the following URL for
UTCAT: tn3270://utxdp.dp.utexas.edu/
The server is accessible outside of the UT domain as well. That's
fairly public if you ask me. There's also an HTML interface, but it's
still under development.
Ajit
Henry Churchyard
Alton Pouncey <alt...@netcom.com> wrote:
>They don't restrict access to their libraries. If I remember correctly,
>non-students can have access to the libraries for a $25 fee (to get a
>library card)
I think it's $40 now. To access UTCAT, dial 512-475-9996 and login as
UTCAT, no password.
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David Smith
: This afternoon the TSL evaluation group announced that five library projects
: were recommended for funding. These include one application to provide access
: for 21 Central Texas libraries (sponsored by MAIN, cooperating with Austin Free
: Net) and another application to provide 50 access stations throughout the city
: of Austin at every public library location (sponsored by Austin FreeNet, also
: partnered with the Austin Public Library and MAIN.)
You're saying that 2 out of the 5 approved applications are here in Austin?
What's the difference between the applications? I understand what you
mean by an "access station" in the second proposal, but how is that
different with "providing access"?
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David Smith
: What is the contingency plan if Congress passes the draconian internet
: censorship legislation that will (as I understand it) make these libraries
: liable for any "indecent" material their underage patrons may access?
Libraries have a long history of not giving a fuck about this.
But this is the 90s. I can't speak for MAIN, but my guess is that
installing any of the software filter programs (Surfwatch, Net Nanny,
etc.) will be sufficient to dodge the liability bullet.
If a district attorney decides to prosecute, he or she isn't going to go
after a library. The press outrage will be too hot to handle. Rather,
they will isolate a site containing mostly sexually explicit material to
prosecute. Bianca's Love Shack, for example.
Latest updates on the Communications Decency Act available at
http://www.vtw.org.
Lance Purple
> UT has its libraries on-line, but for whatever reason, they do NOT allow
> public access--which seems a violation of public access rights in light
> of the fact that they are a public institution. They can NOT restrict use
> of their libraries by denying non-academics access, so why they are not
> accessible on the net is questionable.
UTCAT is publicly accessible, from URL "gopher rowan.lib.utexas.edu 70".
Enjoy.
Also, please remember that you *don't* have a God-given right to access
UTCAT from outside U.T. True, U.T. is supposed to allow public access to
the libraries; *but* they could probably satisfy the legislature just by
letting you into the building, and telling you to go find your own books
by walking the stacks. PLEASE don't send the UTCAT sysadmins any flame
email like the one that shut down the U.T. mail-to-news-gateway.
(The UT mail-to-news gateway used to be unofficially open to the public;
but spammers using AOL "trial" accounts misused this resource; until
the sysadmin stopped accepting posts from AOL. Then someone, who has
already gotten enough hate mail that I won't name them here, posted
a snotty little note *demanding* that the sysadmin allow AOL'ers to
use the gatway again, or else they'd call the Texas Attorney General.
The next day, the gate was permanently closed down to non-students.)
L. Purple (lpu...@netcom.com)
Gene Crick
>Eric Hunt (eh...@bga.com) wrote:
>
>: What is the contingency plan if Congress passes the draconian internet
>: censorship legislation that will (as I understand it) make these libraries
>: liable for any "indecent" material their underage patrons may access?
>
>Libraries have a long history of not giving a fuck about this.
>
>But this is the 90s. I can't speak for MAIN, but my guess is that
>installing any of the software filter programs (Surfwatch, Net Nanny,
>etc.) will be sufficient to dodge the liability bullet.
>
>If a district attorney decides to prosecute, he or she isn't going to go
>after a library. The press outrage will be too hot to handle. Rather,
>they will isolate a site containing mostly sexually explicit material to
>prosecute. Bianca's Love Shack, for example.
>
Eric's question is one we at libraries and other public access groups (like
FreeNet) naturally have to confront squarely. But David's answer is right
on target. What we do is actually simple: make best effort to be responsible
BUT clearly note parents are the final authority on how their children are
raised. Libraries cannot get into the censorship business - on either side.
I'm the original wimpy Pollyanna about community harmony and seeing both sides
of issues. But this is one of the few debates worth a trip to the barricades.
Parents have the right and obligation to decide how their children should be
raised; libraries should not be told what they can and can't offer patrons;
and, the Internet is no place for one group of politically correct people to
enforce "acceptable thought and speech". Bottom Line: Whether I agree with
David Smith's crypto-pinko-humanist-liberal philosophy <grinning here> we both
agree that the Constitution is worth caring about.
gene crick
Gene Crick
>
>You're saying that 2 out of the 5 approved applications are here in Austin?
>
Yes, 2 of 5 successful applications originated with Central Texas-based
organizations, quite a welcome change in this era of Austin bashing.
One application, filed by Austin Free-Net on behalf of Austin Public
Library (with MAIN as a team partner) will net approx. $206k to put
approx. 50 ISDN linked terminals for public access at APL locations.
The other application, filed by MAIN with support of Austin Free-Net
and the Central Texas Library System, will provide approx $40k to put
20 public access terminals in small town libraries throughout Central
Texas (Buda, Bastrop and 18 others). This project will be coordinated
as part of the "Community Resource Center" Internet pilot project based
at the Bastrop Public Library. In drafting this proposal, I decided to
go with standard dialup (in Phase One) rather than ISDN because monthly
ISDN rates (using a dreadful SWB policy called Link Extension) did not
seem justified for single terminal sites. We might move to ISDN later.
>What's the difference between the applications? I understand what you
>mean by an "access station" in the second proposal, but how is that
>different with "providing access"?
access station and providing access are terms I used for the same concept.
While it is my pleasure to be able to announce this singular achievement
for Austin libraries, the real credit goes to a remarkable team who put
the proposals together. And I am not being gracious here: there was one
hell of a lot of hard, smart work done to present such clear and worthy
project applications. To name a few might overlook others but I can't
resist praising Pat Tuohy and Bob Gaines (CTLS), Sue Beckwith (AFN),
Becky Gadell (CofA), a great team from APL (Sue, Ann, Cynthia, Madeleine..)
[I just know I'll forget someone so I'll quit now - there are several others.]
One point to note: Austin Public Library has been going through some heavy
political weather lately, with some complaints justified. But they genuinely
worked their heads off on this one, trying to find a way to bring Internet to
citizens without putting heavy costs on City of Austin taxpayers. APL director
Brenda Branch deserves public congratulation for what her team has done.
gene crick
Gene Crick
Question has been raised about why APL did not focus on incoming access
to their information within the recent grant application.
They can speak with more authority but I am informed the library is
busily developing just this sort of capability. It is a mammoth task,
involving basics like how to protect other city information (because
APL is only one part of municipal information network) etc. For this
grant application, the issue was providing library users free ways to
be introduced to the Internet.
gene crick
Ima Dillo
>They don't restrict access to their libraries. If I remember correctly,
>non-students can have access to the libraries for a $25 fee (to get a
>library card) - just like you have to pay if you don't live in Austin to
>access the APL. They don't howver have to make their catalog available
>AT ALL on the net if they don't want to - how many other public libraries do?
I apologize for the misunderstanding--purely my haste in writing.
What I meant to say is that you can NOT access the on-line
information without a UT I.D. number, and as far as I know, the general
public cannot obtain UT internet accounts. BUT, just as they DO NOT
and can not restrict access to the general libraries on campus,
I don't know why they do not allow general access to the on-line
stuff.
The $25 fee gives the public LOAN privileges similar to the loan
privileges that UT students, faculty, and staff enjoy. The $25 fee
does NOT give computer users an access account--from their
home or office, for instance. And people with an internet connection
CAN access UT's Home Pages on the Web, but can NOT access
the Library information links without a student, faculty, or staff I.D.
on file with the University. Ima Dillo.
Ima Dillo
> To access UTCAT, dial 512-475-9996 and login as
>UTCAT, no password.
Unless I am being discriminated against, just accessing UTCAT
does NOT get you the information. You get a menu of ten
items, some of which are NOT publicly accessible. When you
select the Encyclopedia, as an example, or the Safety Data,
you will be asked for your UT I.D. number, which is your social
security number. If you are not currently in UT's data base, you
will be denied access to the information.
Benjamin Sloan
Ima Dillo <Arm...@shell.com> wrote:
>Unless I am being discriminated against, just accessing UTCAT
>does NOT get you the information. You get a menu of ten
>items, some of which are NOT publicly accessible. When you
>select the Encyclopedia, as an example, or the Safety Data,
>you will be asked for your UT I.D. number, which is your social
>security number. If you are not currently in UT's data base, you
>will be denied access to the information.
UTCAT is the online card catalog and you have full access on-line,
including the web (http://dpweb1.dp.utexas.edu/lib/utnetcat/), so
quit whining. What you don't have access to are some commercial
databases which the libraries license for the campus. You can
use them in the libraries but they can't make them available to
the whole world on-line or the commercial outfits which sold them
would go out of business. Since when did paying taxes for something
include a privilege to unlimited access to it, including on-line??
Does that mean I can sit in the front row at Texas Stadium on
game day or demand to have on-line coverage of the game?
You're a dillo,
Ben
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Ima Dillo
>Question has been raised about why APL did not focus on incoming access
>to their information within the recent grant application.
>
>They can speak with more authority but I am informed the library is
>busily developing just this sort of capability. It is a mammoth task
Mammoth Task maybe--let's only hope that Austin Public joins the
following list someday in not-too-distant future:
List of Public Libraries with
Internet Services
Public Libraries with Gopher Servers:
* Allen County Public Library Gopher (Ft. Wayne, IN)
* Boston Public Library Gopher (Boston, MA)
* British Columbia Library Services Branch Gopher (with addresses &
telephone numbers of 74 British Columbia public libraries)
* Chester County Library and District Center (Chester County, PA)
* Cleveland Public Library Gopher (Cleveland, OH)
* Delaware's Public Library Gopher
* Denver Public Library
* Queens Borough Public Library Gopher
* Salt Lake City Public Library Gopher (Salt Lake City, UT)
* Pikes Peak Library's MaggNet
* Public Library of Youngstown and Mahoning County (Youngstown, OH)
Public Libraries on WWW Servers:
* Oeffentliche Bibliothek der Stadt Aachen (Public Library of Aachen,
Germany)
* Alachua County Library District (Gainesville, FL)
* Allen County Public Library (Ft. Wayne, IN) (under construction)
* Ann Arbor Public Library (Ann Arbor, MI)
* Atlanta/Fulton Public Library
* Austin Pulbic Library (Austin, TX)
* Baltimore County Public Library
* Bedford Free Public Library (Bedford, MA)
* The Berkeley Public Library (Berkeley, CA)
* Birmingham Public Library (Birmingham, AL)
* Boston Public Library (Boston, MA)
* Boulder Public Library (Boulder, CO)
* Stadtbuecherei Bochum (Public Library of Bochum, Germany)
* Cambridge Public Library (Cambridge, MA)
* National Library of Canada (Ottawa, Canada)
* Canterbury Public Library (Christchurch, New Zealand ) 1st public
library system in New Zealand and in Australasia to put up a WWW
Server!
* Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh (Pittsburgh, PA)
* Cedar Falls Public Library (Cedar Falls, Iowa)
* Public Library of Charlotte & Mecklenburg County (Charlotte, North
Carolina) "1995 Library of the Year"
* Chicago Public Library (Chicago, IL)
* Clark Public Library (Clark, New Jersey) 1st public library system in
New Jersey to put up a WWW Server!
* Croydon Libraries Internet Project (CLIP) (British Public Libraries
Project, UK)
* Dayton & Montgomery County Public Library (Dayton, OH)
* Public Library of Des Moines (Des Moines, Iowa)
* Stadtbuechereien Duesseldorf (Public Library of Duesseldorf, Germany)
1st public library in Germany to put up a WWW Server!
* Eugene Public Library (Eugene, OR)
* Evansville-Vanderburgh County Public Library (Evansville, IN)
* Evanston Public Library (Evanston, IL)
* Farmington Hills Library by Gillian Goldsmith, Betty Rozum and Madelyn
Ryan. (MI)
* Fayetteville Public Library (Ozark Regional Library, Fayetteville, AR)
* Flint Public Library
* Glenview Public Library (Glenview, IL)
* Stadtbuecherei Hamm (Pulbic Library of Hamm, Germany)
* Hawaii State Public Library System (links to Hawaii's 49 public
libraries)
* Helsinki City Library (Helsinki, Finland) - 1st public library in the
world to put up a WWW Server!
* Hollis Social Library (Hollis, NH)
* Houston Public Library (Houston, TX)
* ILANET New South Wales (Australia) State Library network provides a
Public Libraries Internet Gateway for its public libraries.
* Kokomo-Howard County Public Library (Kokomo, IN)
* Lawrence Public Library (Lawrence, Kansas)
* London Public Library (London, Ontario)
* Longmont Public Library (Boulder, CO)
* Mideastern Michigan Library Cooperative (MI)
* Milton Public Library (Milton, MA)
* Stadtbibliothek Moenchengladbach (Public Library of Moenchengladbach,
Germany)
* Monroe County Public Library (Bloomington, IN)
* Monroe County Public Library
* Montgomery-Floyd Regional Library (Christiansburg, VA)
* Moscow-Latah County Free Public Library System ( Latah County, Idaho)
* Stadtbuecherei Muenster (Public Library of Muenster, Germany)
* National Library of the Netherlands (Koninklijke Bibliotheek)
* Nova Scotia Provincial Library (Nova Scotia, Canada) 1st public
library system in Canada to put up a WWW Server!
* Novi Public Library by Michele Buberniak, Yan Fu, Suzann Jude (MI)
* City of Palo Alto Libraries (Palo Alto, CA)
* The Free Public Library of Philadelphia (Philadelphia, PA)
* Provo City Library (Provo, Utah)
* Riverside City and County Public Library ( Riverside, CA)
* Rochester Hills Public Library (MI)
* St. Charles City-County Library District (Saint Peters, MO)
* St. Joseph County Public Library (South Bend, IN) -- 1st public
library in the U.S. to put up a WWW Server!
* Saint Paul Public Library (St. Paul, MN)
* St. Thomas Public Library (St. Thomas, Ontario)
* San Francisco Public Library (San Francisco, CA)
* Santa Cruz Public Libraries (Santa Cruz, CA)
* Santa Fe Public Library (Santa Fe, NM)
* SELCO (Southeastern Libraries Cooperating) (regional agency for 30
public libraries in Southeastern Minnesota, including the Albert Lea,
Austin, Blooming Prairie, Brownsdate, Caledonia, Cannon Falls,
Chatifield, Dodge Center, Faribault, Grand Meadow, Harmony, Hokah,
Kasson, Kenyon, LaCrescent, Lake City, Lanesboro, LeRoy, Mabel,
Northfield, Owatonna, Pine Island, Plainview, Preston, Red Wing,
Rochester, Rushford, St. Charles, SELCO Bookmobile (Owatonna), SELCO
Bookmobile (Winona), Spring Valley, Stewartville, Wabasha, West
Concord, Winona, Zumbrota Public Libraries)
* Sharon Public Library (Sharon, MA)
* Silkeborg Public Library (Selkeborg, Denmark)
* Southeastern Ohio Public Libraries home page (Athens County Library
Services; Washington County Public Library; and related links)
* Spokane Public Library (Spokane, Washington)
* National Library of Singapore (Singapore)
* Sunnyvale Patent and Trademark Library (Sunnyvale, CA)
* State Library of Tasmania (Tasmania, Australia)
* Taylor Public Library (Taylor, TX) 1st public library in Texas to put
up a WWW Server!
* Western Counties Regional Library (Nova Scotia, Canada)
* Westerville (OH) Public Library WWW Server
* Willard Library (Evansville, IN)
Public Library WWW Pages Maintained by Others
Of those included in the list above, Library Science students at the
Library School of Information and Library Studies, University of Michigan,
are assisting the following public libraries in southeast Michigan to start
up their own WWW home pages in an initiative led by Professor Joan C.
Durrance. Most of the documents created by these students remain on the UM
SILS server, but they point to these public libraries and their services
which are virtually on the Web.
* Ann Arbor Public Library
* Farmington Hills Library by Gillian Goldsmith, Betty Rozum and Madelyn
Ryan.
* Flint Public Library
* Mideastern Michigan Library Cooperative
* Novi Public Library by Michele Buberniak, Yan Fu, Suzann Jude
* Rochester Hills Public Library
Also included among those listed above, CARL Corporation's Homepage has
several links to the WWW homepages of their Library Partners, many of which
are public library WWW sites currently under development. As of February
15th, 1995, they include the following:
* Atlanta/Fulton Public Library
* Baltimore County Public Library
* Boulder Public Library
* Chicago Public Library
* Monroe County Public Library
Virtual WWW Public Libraries
Finally, the following sites have set up what they call "Virtual Public
Libraries" to serve the general public and public libraries. They include:
* GoMLink, the 1st Virtual WWW *Library* on the Internet, which opened in
February 1993 using gopher software, is an electronic library of Internet
resources built for public libraries in the state of Michigan. They have
direct http access or you can telnet to their public lynx client (telnet to
mlink.lib.umich.edu). Their range of subjects covers what most public
library collections would encompass. They use traditional library
collection development philosophies to build their virtual library. There
are literally thousands of Internet resources all arranged in a
subject-based organizational scheme.
* The Internet Public Library - 1st Virtual WWW *Public* Library on the
Internet. The Internet Public Library Project is hosted by the School of
Information and Library Studies at the University of Michigan. It "seeks to
challenge and redefine the roles and significance of libraries in an
increasingly distributed and digital world. Libraries have always been
places of learning and excitement, opening new worlds of information,
enlightenment and entertainment to all who enter. Libraries and the people
who work in them are committed to democracy and equality of access, the
dignity of their patrons, and the freedom to express and investigate all
points of view."
* Planet Earth Home Page Virtual Library. This virtual library contains a
collection of resources available on the World Wide Web accessible through
a Comprehensive Image Map or grid of subjects and Internet resources - what
Dave McCarn (dmc...@cpcug.org) calls "a neat access pardigm"; or through a
Virtual Library Foorplan, a layout of rooms, each linking one to other
rooms of related information; or through a Text Version of the virtual
library. Each of these approaches also has a search form that one can fill
out to find information in the library.
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Public Libraries on Telnet Servers:
* Abilene Public Library
* Ada Community Library (login: library) (Boise, ID)
* Allegan Public Library (WESTNET) (MI)
* Allen County Public Library On-Line Catalog (Ft. Wayne, IN)
* Anoka County Public Library (MN)
* Arlington Heights Memorial Library (Arlington Heights, llinois)
* Atlanta/Fulton County Public Library (Atlanta, GA)
* Avon Free Public Library (CONNECT) (CT)
* Augusta/Mckay Library (WESTNET) (MI)
* Augusta-Ross Township Library (WESTNET) (MI)
* Baltimore County Public Library (Towson, MD) enter PAC
* Bangor Public Library
* Beaumont Public Library
* Bemis Public Library
* Berkeley Public Library (Berkeley, CA)
* Berlin-Peck Memorial Library (CONNECT) (CT)
* Berrien Springs Community Library (WESTNET) (MI)
* Bibliotheque Publique et Universitaire de Neuchatel (Switzerland)
* Birmingham Public Library and Board of Education (Birmingham, AL)
* Bloomfield Public Library (CONNECT) (CT)
* Boonton-Holmes Public Library (M.A.I.N.) (NJ)
* Metro Boston Library Network Online Catalog (includes Boston,
Brookline, Cambridge, Chelsea, Lexington, Malden, Newton Public
Libraries)
* Minuteman Library Network (Boston area) (MLN includes: Acton,
Arlington, Bedford, Belmont, Concord, Dedham, ramingham, Lincoln.
Medford, Medway, Medfield, Natick, Needham, Norwood,
Somerville,Sudbury,Wayland, Waltham, Watertown, Weston,
Wellesley,Westwood, Winchester Public Libraries)
* North of Boston Library Exchange (Public Access Catalog of the NOBLE
Public Libraries includes: Beverly, Beverly Farms, Danvers, Everett,
Gloucester, Lynn, Lynnfield, Marblehead, Melrose, Peabody,
Peabody--South, Peabody--West, Reading, Revere, Salem, Saugus,
Stoneham, Swampscott, Wakefield, Winthrop Public Libraries)
* Merrimack Valley Library Consortium (MVLC) (Boston area--MVLC
includes: Amesbury, Andover, Billerica, Boxford, Burlington, Carlisle,
Chelmsford, Dracut, Hamilton, Haverhill, Ipswich, Lawrence, Lowell,
Manchester, Methuen, Newbury, Newburyport, North Andover, North
Reading, Rockport, Tewksbury, Topsfield, Wenham, West Newbury
Westford, Wilmington Public Libraries)
* Boulder, Colorado, Public Library System
* Bridgman Public Library (WESTNET) (MI)
* Bristol Public Library (CONNECT)
* Buchanan Public Library (WESTNET) (MI)
* Bud Werner/Steamboat Public Library (MARMOT) (CO)
* Bur Oak Library System (ILLINET) (IL)
* Burlington Public Library (CONNECT) (CT)
* Butler Public Library (M.A.I.N.) (NJ)
* Canton Public Library (CONNECT) (CT)
* Canton Public Library (Canton, OH)
* Carroll County Public Library (MD)
* Canterbury Public Library (Christchurch, New Zealand ) (logon as opac)
* Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh's Online Catalog (CAROLINE) includes
menu access to other libraries in the Pittsburgh area
* Carver County Public Library (username: SEARCH) (Chaska, MN)
* Library of the Chathams (M.A.I.N.) (NJ)
* Cedar Rapids Public Library
* Central and Western Massacusettes Regional System (C/W MARS)
* Public Library of Charlotte & Mecklenburg County (Charlotte, North
Carolina) "1995 Library of the Year"
* Library of the Chesters (M.A.I.N.) (NJ)
* Chicago Public Library (Chicago, IL)
* Cleveland Public Library
* Climax/Lawrence Memorial Library (WESTNET) (MI)
* Coloma Public Library (WESTNET) (MI)
* Comstock Township Library (WESTNET) (MI)
* Corn Belt Library System (ILLINET) (IL)
* Cortez Public Library (MARMOT) (CO)
* Cumberland Trls Library Syst. (ILLINET) (IL)
* Dakota County Public Library (MN)
* Delaware Public Library Gopher
* Denville Public Library (M.A.I.N.) (NJ)
* Denver Public Library
* Detroit Public Library
* Douglas Public Library District
* Dover Public Library (M.A.I.N.) (NJ)
* Dowagiac Public Library (WESTNET) (MI)
* DuPage Library System (ILLINET) (IL)
* Durango Public Library (MARMOT) (CO)
* Eagle County Public Library (MARMOT) (CO)
* East Hanover Public Library (M.A.I.N.) (NJ)
* East Hartford Public Library (CONNECT) (CT)
* East Windsor Warehse Point Library (CONNECT) (CT)
* Eau Claire District Library (WESTNET) (MI)
* Enfield Public Library (CONNECT) (CT)
* Enoch Pratt Free Library (PrattCat) (Baltimore, MD)
* Estes Park Public Library
* Evanston Public Library (Evanston) (IL)
* Farmington Library (CONNECT) (CT)
* Florham Park Public Library (M.A.I.N.) (NJ)
* Fort Collins Public Library
* Fort Morgan Public Library
* Fort Vancouver Regional Library
* Galesburg Memorial Library (WESTNET) (MI)
* Galien Township Public Library (WESTNET) (MI)
* Garfield County Public Library (MARMOT) (CO)
* Glastonbury Memorial Library (CONNECT) (CT)
* Glennview Public Library (Glennview, IL) (login: library)
* Granby Public Library (CONNECT) (CT)
* Grand Rapids Public Library (Grand Rapids, MI)
* Great River Library System (ILLINET) (IL)
* Greene County Public Library
* Harford County Library (Belair, MD)
* Hartford Public Library (CONNECT) (CT)
* Hartford Public Library (WESTNET) (MI)
* Harris County Public Library
* Hawaii State Public Library System
* Hays Public Library
* Hennepin County Public Library (MN)
* Hibernia Public Library (branch of Rockaway Twp. Public Library
(M.A.I.N.) (NJ))
* Houston Area Library Automation Network (HALAN) (Houston,TX)
* Houston Public Library (HALAN) (Houston,TX)
* Howard County Library (MD)
* Ill. Valley Library System (ILLINET) (IL)
* Ilsley Public Library (Middlebury, Vermont)
* Iowa City Public LIbrary (Iowa City, Iowa)
* Jefferson Township Public Library (M.A.I.N.) (NJ)
* Kansas City, KS Public Library (Kansas City, KS) (login: hello
visitor.library)
* Kansas City Public Library
* Kaskaskia Library System (ILLINET) (IL)
* Keene Public Library
* King County Library System (Washington)
* Kinnelon Public Library (M.A.I.N.) (NJ)
* Lake Hiawatha Public Library (Branch of Par-Troy Public Library
(M.A.I.N.) (NJ)
* Lewis & Clark Library System (ILLINET) (IL)
* Lawton Public Library (WESTNET) (MI)
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* Lincoln Trail Libraries Syst. (ILLINET) (IL)
* Long Hill Township Public Library (formerly Passaic Township)
(M.A.I.N.) (NJ)
* Lynchburg Public Library
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* Manchester Public Library (CONNECT) (CT)
* Maricopa County Library District
* Mendham Boro Public Library (M.A.I.N.) (NJ)
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* Marcellus/Wood Memorial Library (WESTNET) (MI)
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* Mesa County Public Library (MARMOT) (CO)
* Minneapolis Public Library (MN)
* Montville Public Library (M.A.I.N.) (NJ)
* Morris County Library (M.A.I.N.) (NJ)
* Morris Plains Public Library (M.A.I.N.) (NJ)
* Joint Library of Morristown and Morris Township Library (M.A.I.N.)
(NJ)
* Mountain Lakes Public Library (M.A.I.N.) (NJ)
* Mt. Arlington Public Library (M.A.I.N.) (NJ)
* Mt. Olive Public Library (M.A.I.N.) (NJ)
* Mt. Tabor Public Library (branch of Par-Troy Public Library (M.A.I.N.)
(NJ))
* Multnomah County Library (Portland, OR)
* Nashville Public Library
* New Britain Library (CONNECT) (CT)
* New Buffalo Public Library (WESTNET) (MI)
* New Orleans Public Library (New Orleans, LA)
* Newington Library (CONNECT) (CT)
* New York Public Library - Branch Libraries Catalog
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* North Suburban Library System (ILLINET) (IL)
* North York Public Library (username: nypl) (North York, ON)
* Northern Ill. Library System (ILLINET) (IL)
* Otsego District Public Library (WESTNET) (MI)
* Ottawa Public Library (no login needed) (Ottawa, ON)
* Parchment Community Library (WESTNET) (MI)
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* Parsippany-Troy Hills Public Library (main branch) (M.A.I.N.) (NJ)
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* Plainwell/Charles A. Ransom Public Library (WESTNET) (MI)
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* Portland Public Library (CONNECT) (CT)
* Prince George's County Public Library
* Providence (Rhode Island) Public Library
* Provo City Library Catalog (Provo, Utah)
* Pueblo Library District (Pueblo, Colorado)
* Queens Borough Public Library InfoLinq (login: QUEENS)
* Ramsay County Public Library(login: library) (Shoreview, MN)
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* Rolling Prairie Library Syst. (ILLINET) (IL)
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* Salt Lake City Public Library
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* Saskatoon Public Library (username: public; at the PAC >>> prompt,
type pac) (Sasksatoon, SK)
* Scott County Public Library (MN)
* Seattle Public Library (Seattle, WA) -- 1st to provide public access
to the Internet!
* Shawnee Library System (ILLINET) (IL)
* Simsbury Public Library (CONNECT) (CT)
* Sioux City Public Library (Sioux City, Iowa)
* Sodus Township Library (WESTNET) (MI)
* Sonoma County Library
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* South Windsor Public Library (CONNECT) (CT)
* Southington Public Library (CONNECT) (CT)
* Southwest System (MARMOT) (CO)
* Spokane Public Library (Spokane, Washington)
* Springfield-Greene County Library login: public (Springfield, MO)
* Starved Rock Library System (ILLINET) (IL)
* Sterling Municipal Library
* Sterling Public Library
* St. Joseph County Public Library On-Line Catalog (South Bend, IN)
* St. Joseph/Maud Preston Palenske Memorial Library (WESTNET) (MI)
* St. Paul Public Library (MN)
* Sterling Municipal Library
* Sterling Public Library
* Suffield Memorial Library (CONNECT) (CT)
* Suburban Library System (ILLINET) (IL)
* Summit County Public Library (MARMOT) (CO)
* Three Oaks Township Library (WESTNET) (MI)
* Three Rivers System (MARMOT) (CO)
* Vail Public Library (MARMOT) (CO)
* Vancouver Public Library (login: netpac; password: netpac1)
(Vancouver, BC)
* Vicksburg Community Library (WESTNET) (MI)
* Washington County Public Library (MN)
* Washingtown Township Public Library (M.A.I.N.) (NJ)
* Watervliet District Library (WESTNET) (MI)
* Western Ill. Library System (ILLINET) (IL)
* West Bloomfield Public Library
* West Hartford Public Library (CONNECT) (CT)
* Westerville Public Library
* Wethersfield Public Library (CONNECT) (CT)
* Wharton Public Library (M.A.I.N.) (NJ)
* Whippanong Library Association (M.A.I.N.) (NJ)
* Wilmington Library, Delaware
* Windsor Locks Public Library (CONNECT) (CT)
* Windsor Public Library (CONNECT) (CT)
CARL Corporation Databases menu provides access to several CARL public
library catalogs and databases by telnet connections. Several are included
in the list above. Those for which we could not find the direct telnet
addresses we could only reach through the link to Carl Corporation above
and these are listed below. Telnet to CARL by clicking the CARL Corporation
Databases link above and select from CARL's first menu item #8. CARL
Systems Library Catalogs, then select Eastern US, Western US (Menu 1) or
Western US (Menu 2). Some of the public libraries accessible through the
CARL network include...
* Broward County Division of Libraries (Ft. Lauderdale, FL)
* Inland Northwest Library Automation Network (WA/ID)
* Los Angeles Public Library (Los Angeles, CA)
* Montgomery County Department of Public Libraries (Rockville, MD)
* Sno-Isle Regional Library System (Marysville, WA)
* Western U.S. Library Systems
* Westchester Library Systems (Elmsford, NY)
If any of you know the direct telnet addresses of these locations above
which do not presently have hypertext links, please let us know what they
are and we will create a hypertext link to them.
Many of the telnet server links above were provided by theUniversity of
Kansas and its Listing of US Public Libraries on HYTELNET
Douglas Holtsinger
Gene Crick <gcr...@itp.sqi.utexas.edu> wrote:
> The Texas State Library offered grant funding (total $910k) for libraries
> in this state to offer public Internet access for citizens. (Note this is
> not intended for dialup access competing with commercial providers but for
> people, esp. rural, who might have little other opportunity for introduction
> to the Internet.)
I think that's a huge waste of tax dollars. Who cares if Billy Bob
out on the farm has to dial a long distance number in order to reach
an ISP and download naughty pictures? If the people who might have
"little other opportunity" to use the Internet can't afford a used
PC and a modem, then a lot of them aren't going to be able to afford
the basic necessities of life. How is Internet access going to help
them when they can't even afford things like basic health care?
W. J. Collum
do...@netcom.com (Douglas Holtsinger) wrote:
>I think that's a huge waste of tax dollars. Who cares if Billy Bob
>out on the farm has to dial a long distance number in order to reach
>an ISP...[TEXT DELETED]...
Your arrogance is astounding. Obviously, "Billy Bob" does, and the public
dollars in question are as much his as yours.
Lars Eighner
Broadcast on austin.general,austin.internet,austin.talk
The lovely and talented Alton Pouncey wrote:
>Ima Dillo (Arm...@shell.com) wrote:
>: In article <4e4b5b$r...@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, gcr...@itp.sqi.utexas.edu says...
>
>: >The Texas State Library offered grant funding (total $910k) for libraries
>: >in this state to offer public Internet access for citizens.
>
>: So does this mean that the Austin Public Library will soon be accessible
>: on-line? It doesn't sound like it. If I understand the post, it only means
>: the libraries will have terminals for use by citizens wishing to access
>: OTHER on-line information. We need to have the library itself on-line, as
>: is being done in many large city library systems. It would have been
>: especially useful to people doing research in this period when the libraries
>: main branch has been shut down for six months and may not be back
>: in service for another six months.
>
>: UT has its libraries on-line, but for whatever reason, they do NOT allow public
>: access--which seems
>: a violation of public access rights in light of the fact that they are a public
>: institution. They can NOT restrict use of their libraries by denying non-academics
>: access, so why they are not accessible on the net is questionable.
>
>They don't restrict access to their libraries. If I remember correctly,
>non-students can have access to the libraries for a $25 fee (to get a
>library card) - just like you have to pay if you don't live in Austin to
>access the APL. They don't howver have to make their catalog available
>AT ALL on the net if they don't want to - how many other public libraries do?
And of course, anyone can dial-up UTCAT. I've never tried to
reach it from the Internet, but there is no problem reaching
UTCAT by phone. Of course you can't use the subscription
research services unless you have a UT ID, but the catalogue is
available to everyone.
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Gene Crick
Douglas Holtsinger <do...@netcom.com> wrote:
>
>I think that's a huge waste of tax dollars. Who cares if Billy Bob
>out on the farm has to dial a long distance number in order to reach
>"little other opportunity" to use the Internet can't afford a used
>PC and a modem, then a lot of them aren't going to be able to afford
>the basic necessities of life. How is Internet access going to help
>them when they can't even afford things like basic health care?
>
I agree with the shame of so many people lacking basic health care. I
wish that were not so. Maybe we can consider that at election time.
I disagree however that there is anything wrong with a rural library
having a window on the world via the Internet. This project will assist
people who want to have a chance to use the net to learn and maybe they
can make a difference in lots of problems - like health care.
This again is not dial up. Billy Bob who has a computer at home will
still have to figure out how to find his own way to the InfoHighway.
But for someone who may not even have a computer, let alone the money
for long distance charges, a library can provide a beginning.
gene crick
Janet M. Swisher
Ima Dillo <Arm...@shell.com> wrote:
>In article <4e4b5b$r...@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, gcr...@itp.sqi.utexas.edu says...
>
>>The Texas State Library offered grant funding (total $910k) for libraries
>>in this state to offer public Internet access for citizens.
>
>So does this mean that the Austin Public Library will soon be accessible
>on-line? It doesn't sound like it. If I understand the post, it only means
>the libraries will have terminals for use by citizens wishing to access
>OTHER on-line information. We need to have the library itself on-line
The mission of public libraries has always been to provide, to members
of the public, access to information resources (traditionally, books)
that they might not be able to access as individuals. In keeping with
this mission, providing access to the Internet to those who don't have
computers at home is a much higher priority than saving those who have
computers and modems the trouble of going to the library in person.
It would be nice to have the library on-line, but you only "need" it
because you're already on-line. But from the library's perspective,
it's more important to provide public access to those resources you
happen to be fortunate enough to be able to access already.
Fred Goodwin
do...@netcom.com (Douglas Holtsinger) wrote:
>
>I think that's a huge waste of tax dollars. Who cares if Billy Bob
>out on the farm has to dial a long distance number in order to reach
>an ISP and download naughty pictures? If the people who might have
>"little other opportunity" to use the Internet can't afford a used
>PC and a modem, then a lot of them aren't going to be able to afford
>the basic necessities of life. How is Internet access going to help
>them when they can't even afford things like basic health care?
I think you misunderstood Gene's post. Internet access will be made
available via computers in the libraries -- and I think it's a great
idea, a worthy tax expenditure.
Making cyber-info available to library patrons is completely consistent
with the libraries' mission of making other forms of information
(printed, video, audio, CD-ROM, etc) available to library users.
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Lars Eighner
Broadcast on austin.general,austin.internet,austin.talk
The lovely and talented Ima Dillo wrote:
>In article <4e6pug$q...@piglet.cc.utexas.edu>, chur...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu says...
>
>> To access UTCAT, dial 512-475-9996 and login as
>>UTCAT, no password.
>
>Unless I am being discriminated against, just accessing UTCAT
>does NOT get you the information. You get a menu of ten
>items, some of which are NOT publicly accessible. When you
>select the Encyclopedia, as an example, or the Safety Data,
>you will be asked for your UT I.D. number, which is your social
>security number. If you are not currently in UT's data base, you
>will be denied access to the information.
>
That's right. The subscription services are for those who paid
for them with their fees. You can pay a fee to AOL or Compuserve
and get some of the exact same services. The question was can you get to
library catalogue, and the answer is that of course you can.
It gets you the catalogue information.
Ima Dillo
>It would be nice to have the library on-line, but you only "need" it
>because you're already on-line.
That's called "progress" dear. It's what the on-line business is
all about. Please see my later post which includes addresses
for all the libraries already providing access via the WWW or
the Internet.
Providing internet access to the disadvantaged and helping them
to be as progressive as the advantaged has little relationship to
putting library information on-line for everyone. The only linkage
is in where the money comes from for both public assistance
programs. Ima Dillo.
Mike Byrnes
>In article <4e77qn$1...@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>,
>So in other words, you're telling us that State tax dollars will be
>spent on a project where children can download whatever crap they feel
>like, with no parental supervision whatsoever? Why don't you place
>porno mags in the children's reading room of the public library too?
>After all, you wouldn't want to get into the censorship business.
---------> I would suggest that with the exception of your most recent
post (above) there is much on the internet that is worth making available
to children. Just like the library, a child must first know how to find
the material before he/she can read it.
Mike
--
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mby...@tpoint.net
Janet M. Swisher
In a climate of dwindling funding for public libraries, all those
libraries you posted are indeed fortunate to be able to provide that
service. But where finite funds are available, the priority should be
on providing on-line access *in* libraries, above access *to*
libraries.
David Smith
: I think that's a huge waste of tax dollars. Who cares if Billy Bob
: out on the farm has to dial a long distance number in order to reach
: an ISP and download naughty pictures? If the people who might have
: "little other opportunity" to use the Internet can't afford a used
: PC and a modem, then a lot of them aren't going to be able to afford
: the basic necessities of life. How is Internet access going to help
: them when they can't even afford things like basic health care?
Studies about the Internet usage habits of casual/low-income browsers
(i.e. the people these projects aim to reach) show that they are more
likely to look for employment, information about basic government
services, medical care, etc.
The goal of providing access isn't to have these users "graduate" into
buying their own ISP accounts, though many will, but rather to provide
access to the Internet services.
Thomas Gerard Benavides
Ima Dillo (Arm...@shell.com) wrote:
: In article <4e7862$1...@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, gcr...@itp.sqi.utexas.edu says...
: Virtual WWW Public Libraries
: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
TAB Net Internet Services
http://www.tab.com SLIP/PPP/Web pages
(512)218-5960 Full Service
1104 S. Mays, suite 206
Round Rock, TX 78664 to...@tab.com
Thomas Gerard Benavides
: Douglas Holtsinger (do...@netcom.com) wrote:
: : I think that's a huge waste of tax dollars. Who cares if Billy Bob
: : out on the farm has to dial a long distance number in order to reach
: : an ISP and download naughty pictures? If the people who might have
: : "little other opportunity" to use the Internet can't afford a used
: : PC and a modem, then a lot of them aren't going to be able to afford
: : the basic necessities of life. How is Internet access going to help
: : them when they can't even afford things like basic health care?
: Studies about the Internet usage habits of casual/low-income browsers
: (i.e. the people these projects aim to reach) show that they are more
: likely to look for employment, information about basic government
: services, medical care, etc.
We provide a free account to the Round Rock Library. Any Round Rock
citizen with a library card can access the Internet free of charge.
We have tried doing the same thing for other areas around Round Rock
including Austin but no one has returned our calls. Go figure.
Ima Dillo
> But where finite funds are available, the priority should be
>on providing on-line access *in* libraries, above access *to*
>libraries.
We're all entitled to our opinions, but providing public access
TO the library would be my way of maximizing use of the funds
for the most benefit to the most people.
If you put a few terminals in a library, let people use them as
they wish to access the Internet and WWW, what do you
think MOST people will use them for ??? I doubt that they
will be using them to supplement their library research. They'll
be using them to browse--just as you and I do participating in
this newsgroup forum. Ima Dillo.
Ima Dillo
>We provide a free account to the Round Rock Library. Any Round Rock
>citizen with a library card can access the Internet free of charge.
>We have tried doing the same thing for other areas around Round Rock
>including Austin but no one has returned our calls. Go figure.
Anyone who uses the Austin Public Library regularly knows how
poorly managed it has been for years. It is no surprise that they would
not take you up on your offer. It takes someone with an interest in
progress to see beyond the card catalogue. The fact that the citizens
of Austin can sit by and let the main branch of the library virtually
cease to exist for the better part of a year speaks volumes for the
public's apathy.
To excuse the Library's lack of management by claiming they
do the best they can with the funds they have is to admit that
Austin has no volunteer base worth snot. It admits there is no
one SEEKING funding from alternative sources. The funding
IS there--but one has to be ambitious and diligent in seeking it.
Ima Dillo.
Ima Dillo
>Studies about the Internet usage habits of casual/low-income browsers
>(i.e. the people these projects aim to reach) show that they are more
>likely to look for employment, information about basic government
>services, medical care, etc.
Can you point us to these studies you refer to? I am skeptical.
I don't know about you, but look at what computers are used for
when you stand and look around in a public setting where computer
access is provided the public. I see people doing everything BUT
serious study/research. With the tons of stuff out there to waste
time on, like writing to this newsgroup, there are FEW who are
going to be researching as you suggest, in my experience.
More importantly, when you make computers available for Internet
access, how do you control the use so that serious researchers
always have priority over those wishing to browse, play, and kill
time, or otherwise explore the novelty of using a computer.
Ima Dillo.
David Smith
: In article <4ek573$5...@news2.realtime.net>, bla...@bga.com says...
: >Studies about the Internet usage habits of casual/low-income browsers
: >(i.e. the people these projects aim to reach) show that they are more
: >likely to look for employment, information about basic government
: >services, medical care, etc.
: Can you point us to these studies you refer to?
Go ask Gary Chapman, head of the 21st Century Project at the LBJ School
of Public Affairs.
He'll have buttloads of references, as this is his bailiwick, so to speak.
--
David Smith * "The remedy of choice for bad speech is more
bla...@bga.com * speech, not enforced silence."
President, EFF-Austin *
Bill Moore and Nancy Byrd
branch and will access the Web using Netscape. (The George Washington
Carver Branch already has a public access terminal and Dove Springs will
be getting one soon.) Austin Free Net is the nonprofit organization that
actually got the Texas State Library Grant to offer Internet access
through the Library. The projected installation date is July 1996. The
City's Information Systems Department has already made the library's
catalog ready for internet access through Telnet and will be installing
Z39.5 software for internet access in the near future. The grapevine
says they are planning to open the site to the public when they reopen
the John Henry Faulk Central Library. That grand opening is scheduled
for the last Sunday in April (the last weekend before the City Council
election.) While they are making progess on the renovations downtown,
the project may not be completed by April 28th (the grand opening) but
some floors will be open at that time.
Nancy Byrd, Branch Manager, Twin Oaks Libary
Ima Dillo
> The grapevine
>says they are planning to open the site to the public when they reopen
>the John Henry Faulk Central Library. That grand opening is scheduled
>for the last Sunday in April (the last weekend before the City Council
>election.)
But of course. How convenient. As if that would change someone's
mind on how they will vote.
Michael Eisenstadt
e-mail option built into Netscape (the browser they are using).
Why not? I was even told not to type in anything in a
mozilla in one of pages I was reading. Why not? I thought
interaction was the name of the Internet game. It was also
somewhat creepy to have a librarian snooping over my shoulder
to see what crime I was committing. Perhaps I should buy
one of those rear view mirrors for a computer that are now
being sold. Finally, no telnet prompt is supplied although
it would be trivial to download and install Ewan. How else
can one look up an item at the Perry-Castanada library for
example?
Of course I applaud the installation of an Internet connection
at Carver and at the other branches in the future as Nancy
informs us is to be done. But I think Texas Free Net should
loosen up and not insist on such restrictions as I have listed
above.
Mike Eisenstadt (mich...@podbox.austin.tx.us)
http://www.eden.com/~madelon (<-Madelon's Recent Paintings)
BTW, this artist (as well as Bob Anderson) were chosen on the
basis of their Web pages to be included among 250 artists
to be showcased on a CD-ROM from Italy titled "il Museo che
non c'e" (=The Imaginary Museum)
Gene Crick
I appreciated your comments on the computer system we provided for Carver
Branch Library. (thanks to funding from Applied Materials) And I'm sure
the people of Austin Free-Net (who are doing the system support and
maintenance) would be interested too. Same for the leaders at APL who are
responsible for the supervision of this project.
So may I ask you to drop me a note with your observations and suggestions
for improving the operation and how it could be more useful for users? It
would help everyone make this the best possible resource and would also
help develop procedures for nearly fifty more computers to be installed for
the same purposes in Austin branch libraries by the good folks of Free-Net.
thanks,
gene crick
President, MAIN
gcr...@main.org