Re: How to pay for Katrian and Rita? Dems want to raise taxes!
Jon A
wrote:
>
>It's true.
>
>They don't want to cut spending or pork or foriegn aid because they're afraid
>the democrats will screw them and cut THEIR pork and their welfare
>giveways, so the repubs want to raise taxes on WORKING americans.
>
>How?
>
>By doing away with working American's tax cuts enacted several years ago.
>That's a tax RAISE.
>
>Filthy dirty republicans, whistling and dancing while America burns, only
>concered about their own re-election even if they have to be traitors and
>theives.
historyrep...@republicans.usa
wrote:
>
>It's true.
>
>They don't want to cut spending or pork or foriegn aid because they're afraid
>the republicans will screw them and cut THEIR pork and their welfare
>giveways, so the dems want to raise taxes on WORKING americans.
>
>How?
>
>By doing away with working American's tax cuts enacted several years ago.
>That's a tax RAISE.
>
>Filthy dirty democrats, whistling and dancing while America burns, only
>concered about their own re-election even if they have to be traitors and
>theives.
You goddamn ignorant fool. Democrats raise taxes. Republicans spend
your retirement money. Republicans are spending money like a Democrat
on crack. When Republicans say they want less government, they mean
they don't respect law and don't want to be accountable. Heil Nixon,
Heil Bush, Heil Hitler.
Hal Burton
> It's true.
>
> They don't want to cut spending or pork or foriegn aid because they're
> afraid the republicans will screw them and cut THEIR pork and their
> welfare giveways, so the dems want to raise taxes on WORKING
> americans.
>
> How?
>
> By doing away with working American's tax cuts enacted several years
> ago. That's a tax RAISE.
>
> Filthy dirty democrats, whistling and dancing while America burns,
> only concered about their own re-election even if they have to be
> traitors and theives.
>
But, but, but... Tom Delay said there's no more pork to cut! If our government
weren't such a collective idiot, they would be able to afford to add debt
whenever we suffer a disaster, because they would have learned to create
a budget that is not systematically addicted to deficit spending. So we might
as well pile on another $100B in debt, because it will only serve to hasten
our inevitable fiscal demise by about 1 month.
tom spillman
>
> By borrowing. Borrow like there's no tomorrow, since in ShrubCoLand,
> there isn't one.
>
You seem to imply that Bush (and Co) are the only ones who borrow to
fund spending. A few postings ago, I pointed to a CBO (Congressional
Budget Office) site which indicated in the period from 1962 to 2002,
there were only two years which did not run a deficit.
It sounds to me like BOTH parties make it a habit of "borrowing like
there's no tomorrow".
I agree that the Republicans are spending too much. Unfortunately, the
main complaint from the Democrats seems to be that the spending isn't
high enough.
As my wife says, "a pox on both their houses!"
Regards...
Tom
Jon A
wrote:
>Jon A <jo...@ev1.net> wrotenews:0ee9j1d1vs595os32...@4ax.com:
>Uh, were u bout 2 say sumptin?
Don't read much, do you?
historyrep...@republicans.usa
wrote:
>historyrep...@republicans.usa
>wrotenews:u2m9j15p1ptr7sqen...@4ax.com:
>
>
>>>
>>>Filthy dirty democrats, whistling and dancing while America burns, only
>>>concered about their own re-election even if they have to be traitors
>>>and theives.
>>
>> You goddamn ignorant fool. Democrats raise taxes. Republicans spend
>> your retirement money. Republicans are spending money like a Democrat
>> on crack. When Republicans say they want less government, they mean
>> they don't respect law and don't want to be accountable. Heil Nixon,
>> Heil Bush, Heil Hitler.
>>
>
>If I was to have one set of crooks in office, I'd rather have the Taliban
>republicans than the facist socialist demorats.
That makes as much sense as being happy you have a window cabin on the
Titanic. Oh yes, "stay the course" hit that iceberg. Americans
deserve the government they tolerate. Their government is no more
honest than they are.
Chris
"Mapanari" <The_...@anonmail.com> wrote in message
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> Jon A <jo...@ev1.net> wrotenews:ospbj1hrpui6ihfis...@4ax.com:> >>Jon A <jo...@ev1.net> wrotenews:0ee9j1d1vs595os32a1duqmbf6lsjq2mim@
> 4ax.com:
> >>
> >>> On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 00:24:30 -0000, Mapanari <The_...@anonmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>It's true.
> >>>>
> >>>>They don't want to cut spending or pork or foriegn aid because they're
> >>>>afraid the democrats will screw them and cut THEIR pork and their
> >>>>welfare giveways, so the repubs want to raise taxes on WORKING
> >>>>americans.
> >>>>
> >>>>How?
> >>>>
> >>>>By doing away with working American's tax cuts enacted several years
> >>>>ago. That's a tax RAISE.
> >>>>
> >>>>Filthy dirty republicans, whistling and dancing while America burns,
> >>>>only concered about their own re-election even if they have to be
> >>>>traitors and theives.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>Uh, were u bout 2 say sumptin?
> >
> > Don't read much, do you?
> >
> >
>
> to post but like to see your fake name in lights.
Try re-reading what you originally posted mapi.....there have beens some
changes....sheesh...do I have to do everything....
>
> --
> -- His Excellency, Mapanari
> Bishop of the Austin Chapter of the
> Flying Spaghetti Monster, Lord of all.
DG
best case - our kids will get to pay.
Our national debt is getting very bad.. Inflation and devaluation of
the dollar will follow.
I'd rather see Bush's tax cuts go away and pay now. Heck, raise them
above the level pre-Bush. Politically, it'll never sell - but fiscal
resonsibility will be a reality one day, unfortunately it will probably
be spurred by a major national crisis.
Raise my taxes, but pay DOWN our debt. Payment of our national debt
means more money in everyone's pocket long term.
CJT
Absolutely. But you know how Clinton was hated while he was trying to
pay it down. And as soon as Bush took over, he "gave back" the surplus
to the wealthy.
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Hal Burton
If somebody has to pay, how about the people who have a direct financial
stake? The businesses and individuals who need it rebuilt? And if they can't
afford it, and can't justify borrowing enough money to pay for it, then how
can you justify forcing others to pay for it?
Grumpy AuContraire
CJT wrote:
>
> DG wrote:
>
> > Somebody is going to have to pay.. Eventually. Either we pay now - or
> > best case - our kids will get to pay.
> >
> > Our national debt is getting very bad.. Inflation and devaluation of
> > the dollar will follow.
> > I'd rather see Bush's tax cuts go away and pay now. Heck, raise them
> > above the level pre-Bush. Politically, it'll never sell - but fiscal
> > resonsibility will be a reality one day, unfortunately it will probably
> > be spurred by a major national crisis.
> >
> > Raise my taxes, but pay DOWN our debt. Payment of our national debt
> > means more money in everyone's pocket long term.
> >
> Absolutely. But you know how Clinton was hated while he was trying to
> pay it down. And as soon as Bush took over, he "gave back" the surplus
> to the wealthy.
>
>
It is because of Clinton's appeasement policies that we are paying
through the nose now. You libs sure have a conveniently short memory.
JT
Grumpy AuContraire
Yes, the rebuilding should be a local effort except for interstate
commerce infrastructure. Imagine if we were to bail everyone out when
the least little thing comes along. We are on a path to exactly that..
JT
Hal Burton
Does it matter to you that even with the tax cuts, total federal receipts
for 2005 will be the highest in history? Can you countenance the possibility
that merely reducing spending would be enough to eliminate the deficit?
CJT
Nonsense. There was no appeasement. There were a few attempts to
get something done that were blocked by the Republican Congress, though.
Chris
> CJT <abuj...@prodigy.net> wrotenews:43370E74...@prodigy.net:
>
> > DG wrote:
> >
> >> Somebody is going to have to pay.. Eventually. Either we pay now - or
> >> best case - our kids will get to pay.
> >>
> >> Our national debt is getting very bad.. Inflation and devaluation of
> >> the dollar will follow.
> >> I'd rather see Bush's tax cuts go away and pay now. Heck, raise them
> >> above the level pre-Bush. Politically, it'll never sell - but fiscal
> >> resonsibility will be a reality one day, unfortunately it will probably
> >> be spurred by a major national crisis.
> >>
> >> Raise my taxes, but pay DOWN our debt. Payment of our national debt
> >> means more money in everyone's pocket long term.
> >>
> > Absolutely. But you know how Clinton was hated while he was trying to
> > pay it down. And as soon as Bush took over, he "gave back" the surplus
> > to the wealthy.
> >
>
> Clinton raised taxes to their highest levels in our history, and due to
the
> economic reforms institutied by Newt Gingrich and the republican congress
> and Bush Sr the years before, the economy also took off, what with the
> Republican's checking the excesses of the drunken sailor democrats.
>
> THAT was when the economy took off, and increased tax revenues due to
> increased taxes and increased buisness gave us a surplus; and the surplus
> was spent almost as fast as it could be except for the republican congress
> who constantly voted down increases in welfare, illegal alien health care
> and food stamps and federal revenue gifts to increase teacher's already
> obsence pay and hiring 10's of thousand more government workers in local
> and state offices.
>
> Now when Bush took over, with a total republican control, he fucked up
> major and will always be known as the asshole who could have taken us into
> fiscal responsibility, could have dismantled the horrors of socialism and
> racism which is the legacy of 30 years of deprevation by the liberal
> socialist democratic party, and he could have made our country great.
>
> But noooooo...he panders to everyone, vetos nothing, presents our ass to
be
> fucked by the Communists, does nothing about N.Korea and instead bogs us
> down in two wars which we can't win.
>
> I hate the mofo for squandering his chance, the only chance we'll ever
get,
> to make America great again and now it's too late.
>
> So, lets have some reality in your insipid attempt to re-write history to
> agrandize the most corrupt and morally bankrupt satiricus sybriate asshole
> Clinton in all our history and tell the truth, for a change.
>
> No one pays any attention to liars, panderers and feeble spin doctors.
Then how did the republicans get into office?
DG
for more federal programs.
I'm not that person.
I want decreased programs or I'd even accept programs at the current
level.
I WANT more taxes - AS LONG AS THEY ARE PAID TO THE DEFICIT.
Pay off the deficit and then decrease my taxes.
Heck, I'd go for a flat tax and throw away the billions we spend on our
burden of a tax system.
With an ever increasing deficit, we're all screwed. We're talking
about the 1930s all over again.