Bad News: Randalls at 45th and Guad

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Chris Ring

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May 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/21/97
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Just got wind of a new Randalls mega-store going in at the undeveloped
triangle NW of 45th and Guadalupe.

Does anyone really want a Randalls at 45th and Guad?

They have a real nice web-page at http://www.randalls.com visit their site
let them know what you think.

E-mail me, or neig...@internetnow.com for information on where to sign
a petition opposing the plan.

Norman Richards

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May 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/21/97
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In article <5lvus2$l8j$2...@quest.ccsi.com>, Chris Ring <kris...@ccsi.com> wrote:
>Does anyone really want a Randalls at 45th and Guad?

Not really. There is already a randalls about half a mile up
the road. Is this one moving? Or will they both be there? That
would be quite an overkill, especially incredibly lame Randalls
is in the first place. They don't have half the selection that
HEB or Fiesta does and the prices are much higher. Plus, if you
aren't a regular shopper and don't have their "remarkable" card,
then you feel cheated each time you walk in. That's not the way
to attract new customers.

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David...

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May 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/21/97
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Chris Ring wrote:
>
> Just got wind of a new Randalls mega-store going in at the undeveloped
> triangle NW of 45th and Guadalupe.
>
> Does anyone really want a Randalls at 45th and Guad?
>
> They have a real nice web-page at http://www.randalls.com visit their site
> let them know what you think.

HEY! Dont stop Randalls. Listen to what I have to say prior to
mailing a complaint to them!

I get to deal in business with Randalls monthly. I know the stores in
my town and in DFW. They are clean, clean, clean! The people are nice.
They are all US citizens! The stores are prime examples of Americanism,
unlike some chains that seem to cater to NON-Americans. I would also
like to suggest that a Randalls store in your area will help, not hinder
your property values should you decide to sell. These stores are fine
indeed. You will pay just a bit more for the fine atmosphere of
americana, but once you shop there, you'll never want to shop anywhere
else.

I have no stock in Randalls, but I just want you to know that they are
clean and neat, and their stores are so highly valued by customers, that
the upscale nature of them will help maintain any neighborhood on a
higher standard making it difficult for the undesireables in the area.

David...

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May 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/21/97
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Norman Richards wrote:
>
> In article <5lvus2$l8j$2...@quest.ccsi.com>, Chris Ring <kris...@ccsi.com> wrote:
> >Does anyone really want a Randalls at 45th and Guad?
>
> Not really. There is already a randalls about half a mile up
> the road. Is this one moving? Or will they both be there? That
> would be quite an overkill, especially incredibly lame Randalls
> is in the first place. They don't have half the selection that
> HEB or Fiesta does and the prices are much higher. Plus, if you
> aren't a regular shopper and don't have their "remarkable" card,
> then you feel cheated each time you walk in. That's not the way
> to attract new customers.

Thats a laugh. I suspect that Randalls is opening a Flagship Randalls
at that intersection. That would mean there are a large number of
upscale people in the area! Good for you guys! A Flagship Randalls is
many times better and more complete than any HEB, or Fiesta!
And, when you go into a Randalls, everyone there will speak to you in
ENGLISH! You will not see customers "crazing" the fruit counters which
is popular in the not-so-Ameircan chains. These lowly stores help to
decrease the value of a neighorhood. Believe me, at Randalls stores,you
will not see a mexican side-show on the sidewalk where they sell junk
out in the open with loud music in a foreign tongue! Thats the kind of
crap that brings down the entire area!

GO GET'EM RANDALLS!

Norman Richards

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May 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/21/97
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In article <3383A5...@flash.net>, David... <davi...@flash.net> wrote:
>[...] The people are nice. They are all US citizens!

If there is a point here, I'm failing to see it.

>The stores are prime examples of Americanism,
>unlike some chains that seem to cater to NON-Americans.

*gasp* You mean, by actually selling a variety of food? How dare
they?!?!?!?! Actually, this was my biggest disappointemnet with
Randalls. I live near the Koenig/N. Lamar Randalls and was very
disappointed the first time I went there. I wasn't able to find a
single variety of asian rice nor any selection of asian vegetables.
Maybe I just hit at the wrong times, but I never seem to see anything
that even resembles a variety there. I end up going to the HEB on
Burnett most of the time. Even though they can't beat the R.R. HEB or
Fiesta, it's a nice step. Fiesta is always my favorite - their
"international" section is the best. I wish they were openning up on
45th!

>[...] but once you shop there, you'll never want to shop anywhere else.

Hahaha. This is a joke, right? The only area grocery store around here
I'd want to be at LESS is Albertsons. Now there is a sorry store.

Norman Richards

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May 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/21/97
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In article <3383AA...@flash.net>, David... <davi...@flash.net> wrote:
> You will not see customers "crazing" the fruit counters which
>is popular in the not-so-Ameircan chains.

Out of curiousity, how does one "craze" fruit?

Olin Murrell

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May 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/21/97
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David... wrote:
>
> Chris Ring wrote:
> >
> > Just got wind of a new Randalls mega-store going in at the undeveloped
> > triangle NW of 45th and Guadalupe.
> >
> > Does anyone really want a Randalls at 45th and Guad?
> >
> > They have a real nice web-page at http://www.randalls.com visit their site
> > let them know what you think.
>
> HEY! Dont stop Randalls. Listen to what I have to say prior to
> mailing a complaint to them!
>
> I get to deal in business with Randalls monthly. I know the stores in
> my town and in DFW. They are clean, clean, clean! The people are nice.
> They are all US citizens! The stores are prime examples of Americanism,
> unlike some chains that seem to cater to NON-Americans. I would also
> like to suggest that a Randalls store in your area will help, not hinder
> your property values should you decide to sell. These stores are fine
> indeed. You will pay just a bit more for the fine atmosphere of
> americana, but once you shop there, you'll never want to shop anywhere
> else.
>

Pray tell, would that "non-American" of which you speak, by definition,
have to have been born somewhere other than the continent called
AMERICA? There are plenty of hispanics, and other nationalities who are
naturalized US citizens, but anybody born in Canada, the USA, Mexico,
etc., is already an American.

As for Randalls, I have no opinion on their proposed new store location,
as it's not likely that I'll patronize the store. The last time I went
to a Randalls, the item I was purchasing rang up at more than a dollar
over the posted price, and when I mentioned this to the checker, she
said, in a very un-American manner, that I'd be welcome to take it up
with the manager. I said no, and paid the overcharge, and started to
walk out of the store. I went back to the counter where I'd gotten the
merchandise just to check if I'd been right on the price, and sure
enough I was. I collared a floor manager, showed him the price tag, AND
my sales receipt. He hemmed and hawed for about a minute and a half,
and rather half-heartedly said, "Well, I guess I could refund you the
difference."

At which point I told him, "No, if Randalls needs that dollar that
badly, my advice would be for you to spend it wisely." I haven't been
back since.

> I have no stock in Randalls, but I just want you to know that they are
> clean and neat, and their stores are so highly valued by customers, that
> the upscale nature of them will help maintain any neighborhood on a
> higher standard making it difficult for the undesireables in the area.

Yeah, right. Undesireables.

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David...

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May 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/21/97
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Norman Richards wrote:
>
> In article <3383AA...@flash.net>, David... <davi...@flash.net> wrote:
> > You will not see customers "crazing" the fruit counters which
> >is popular in the not-so-Ameircan chains.

typo! that should read graze as in picking up food and eating it
without paying for it. THis is very popular among illegal aliens/legal
aliens. Most Americans realize that if we all walked up to the fruit
counters and ate the fruit without paying for it, we would be stealing
and the store would suffer.

David...

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May 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/21/97
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HEHE, right.

I must stop replying to so many in this newsgroup, but I hate to let
something go by when it needs to have information added to it.
Randalls has a policy where that if you find something that rings up
different than the posted price, you get the first item free!
This has happend to me several times both plus, and minus the shelf
price.
Anyone who has this happen to them needs to see a manager and
complain no matter what store you are in. I have had many more problems
at HEB (dont shop there anymore)and Fiesta (a store that is becoming
very expensive! (dont shop there much either)). One place where this
seems to never happen is good ol Walmart! I love Walmart, Randalls, and
Kroger Signature stores!!!

Jeffrey E. Salzberg

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May 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/22/97
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In article <3383CF...@flash.net>, davi...@flash.net says...

> typo! that should read graze as in picking up food and eating it
> without paying for it. THis is very popular among illegal aliens/legal
> aliens


Mostly, I'd guess, in the minds of bigots.

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David...

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May 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/22/97
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What do I believe concerning both legal and illegal immigration?

My good friend Patrick J. Buchanan has a very nice articule on the
subject. I agree with Pat more often than wonderful Rush Limbaugh, but
understand that I agree with Rush nearly 100% of the time.

Please take the time to read what Pat Buchanan has posted concerning
immigration and our future as a country.

http://www.buchanan.org/timeout.html

Norman Richards

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May 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/22/97
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In article <3383CF...@flash.net>, David... <davi...@flash.net> wrote:
>[...] THis is very popular among illegal aliens/legal

>aliens. Most Americans realize that if we all walked up to the fruit
>counters and ate the fruit without paying for it, we would be stealing
>and the store would suffer.

Hey, now I might just start shopping at Randalls. I've got a quick
quick question though. Do they make you wear the white hoods inside the
store? I only ask because I normally ride a bike and that would kinda
hamper my vision. I dunno, make I could put it in my backpack and
just put it on when I walked in the store? Please let me know - I don't
want to look out of place.

Olin Murrell

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May 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/22/97
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David... wrote:
>
[snipped]

>
> HEHE, right.
>
> I must stop replying to so many in this newsgroup, but I hate to let
> something go by when it needs to have information added to it.
> Randalls has a policy where that if you find something that rings up
> different than the posted price, you get the first item free!
> This has happend to me several times both plus, and minus the shelf
> price.

Yep. I'm quite well aware of this policy. The store I was in quite
clearly violated it. And, they had two very clear chances to follow
their policy.

> Anyone who has this happen to them needs to see a manager and
> complain no matter what store you are in. I have had many more problems
> at HEB (dont shop there anymore)and Fiesta (a store that is becoming
> very expensive! (dont shop there much either)). One place where this
> seems to never happen is good ol Walmart! I love Walmart, Randalls, and
> Kroger Signature stores!!!

Don't get me wrong, David. I'm NOT touting the alleged virtue of HEB, or
any other store. I DID complain to a manager, and Randalls did NOT
follow their policy on mis-pricing. Matter of fact they appeared
reluctant to even refund the DIFFERENCE. For that reason, they get no
more of my business.

As for Walmart, you might want to visit some of the websites that
complain loudly about this company, and talk to some of the mom and pop
establishments they've allgedly driven out of business.

So much for "more information."

Lance Hartmann

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May 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/22/97
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In article <5lvus2$l8j$2...@quest.ccsi.com>, Chris Ring <kris...@ccsi.com> wrote:
>Just got wind of a new Randalls mega-store going in at the undeveloped
>triangle NW of 45th and Guadalupe.
>
>Does anyone really want a Randalls at 45th and Guad?


I can't imagine why, especially with Central Market around the corner.


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Ted Samsel

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May 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/22/97
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David... (davi...@flash.net) wrote:
: > let them know what you think.

: HEY! Dont stop Randalls. Listen to what I have to say prior to
: mailing a complaint to them!

: I get to deal in business with Randalls monthly. I know the stores in
: my town and in DFW. They are clean, clean, clean! The people are nice.
: They are all US citizens! The stores are prime examples of Americanism,
: unlike some chains that seem to cater to NON-Americans. I would also
: like to suggest that a Randalls store in your area will help, not hinder
: your property values should you decide to sell. These stores are fine
: indeed. You will pay just a bit more for the fine atmosphere of
: americana, but once you shop there, you'll never want to shop anywhere
: else.

Hailfahr! Austin's gonna be as white-bread-honkey as Plano if'n you
don't watch out. Where's a man with a hangover going to be able to
buy a comforting bowl of menudo on a Sunday morning? And they prob-
ably won't sell lard or collards, neither.

Go back north Davey boy!

I want meat markets with dead critters. Not plastic wrap!

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Scott Ashcraft

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May 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/22/97
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| Thats a laugh. I suspect that Randalls is opening a Flagship Randalls
| at that intersection. That would mean there are a large number of
| upscale people in the area! Good for you guys! A Flagship Randalls is
| many times better and more complete than any HEB, or Fiesta!
| And, when you go into a Randalls, everyone there will speak to you in
| ENGLISH! You will not see customers "crazing" the fruit counters which
| is popular in the not-so-Ameircan chains. These lowly stores help to
| decrease the value of a neighorhood. Believe me, at Randalls stores,you
| will not see a mexican side-show on the sidewalk where they sell junk
| out in the open with loud music in a foreign tongue! Thats the kind of
| crap that brings down the entire area!
|

How sad. How very, very sad.


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Scott Ashcraft

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May 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/22/97
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In article <5m05ad$23...@opus.cs.utexas.edu>, o...@cs.utexas.edu (Norman
Richards) wrote:

| In article <5lvus2$l8j$2...@quest.ccsi.com>, Chris Ring <kris...@ccsi.com>
wrote:

| >Does anyone really want a Randalls at 45th and Guad?
|

| Not really. There is already a randalls about half a mile up
| the road. Is this one moving? Or will they both be there? That
| would be quite an overkill, especially incredibly lame Randalls
| is in the first place. They don't have half the selection that
| HEB or Fiesta does and the prices are much higher. Plus, if you
| aren't a regular shopper and don't have their "remarkable" card,
| then you feel cheated each time you walk in. That's not the way
| to attract new customers.
|

I feel cheated even when I use that Orwellian card. Even with the card,
much of what you buy at Randalls is still more expensive than at HEB.

Stephen Whitis

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May 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/22/97
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Would the person who Emailed me trying to tell me that David
isn't racist please send another Email?

For someone that claims to be a christian, David sure preaches
hatred more than anything else. Come to think of it, I'm not sure
I've seen him in favor of anything except hatred.

On Wed, 21 May 1997 21:06:58 -0500, "David..." <davi...@flash.net>
wrote:

>Norman Richards wrote:
>>
>> In article <5lvus2$l8j$2...@quest.ccsi.com>, Chris Ring <kris...@ccsi.com> wrote:
>> >Does anyone really want a Randalls at 45th and Guad?
>>
>> Not really. There is already a randalls about half a mile up
>> the road. Is this one moving? Or will they both be there? That
>> would be quite an overkill, especially incredibly lame Randalls
>> is in the first place. They don't have half the selection that
>> HEB or Fiesta does and the prices are much higher. Plus, if you
>> aren't a regular shopper and don't have their "remarkable" card,
>> then you feel cheated each time you walk in. That's not the way
>> to attract new customers.
>

> Thats a laugh. I suspect that Randalls is opening a Flagship Randalls
>at that intersection. That would mean there are a large number of
>upscale people in the area! Good for you guys! A Flagship Randalls is
>many times better and more complete than any HEB, or Fiesta!
> And, when you go into a Randalls, everyone there will speak to you in
>ENGLISH! You will not see customers "crazing" the fruit counters which
>is popular in the not-so-Ameircan chains. These lowly stores help to
>decrease the value of a neighorhood. Believe me, at Randalls stores,you
>will not see a mexican side-show on the sidewalk where they sell junk
>out in the open with loud music in a foreign tongue! Thats the kind of
>crap that brings down the entire area!
>

> GO GET'EM RANDALLS!


step...@airmail.net
http://web2.airmail.net/stephenw/

Don House-SunService

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May 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/22/97
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In article ya02408000R22...@newsgate.sps.mot.com, ra4038@NOSPAM@email.sps.mot.com (Scott Ashcraft) writes:

>
> I feel cheated even when I use that Orwellian card. Even with the card,
> much of what you buy at Randalls is still more expensive than at HEB.
>
>
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HEB may be cheaper but their customer service at the store on Koenig and
Burnet is horrible. Why does Randall's have to build a brand new store instead
of remodeling an old one. They already have two stores in that area. One at
Koenig and Lamar and one at 38th and Kerbey Lane. Both of which they will
probably end up closing when the new store opens.
---
Don House

Dustin Christmann

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May 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/22/97
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In article <3383CF...@flash.net>, David... <davi...@flash.net> wrote:
>Norman Richards wrote:
>>
>> In article <3383AA...@flash.net>, David... <davi...@flash.net> wrote:
>> > You will not see customers "crazing" the fruit counters which
>> >is popular in the not-so-Ameircan chains.
>
> typo! that should read graze as in picking up food and eating it
>without paying for it. THis is very popular among illegal aliens/legal

>aliens. Most Americans realize that if we all walked up to the fruit
>counters and ate the fruit without paying for it, we would be stealing
>and the store would suffer.

You know, this newsgroup has convinced me of one thing, if nothing else:
There are people out there that a so obsessed with a single issue, a single
agenda, that they have very few thoughts outside of that issue and could
take a discussion on the price of a haircut and a shave in Billings, Montana
and turn it into a discussion of that issue.

We now return you to this rapidly deteriorating discussion of immigration,
nee a discussion of grocery stores.

(BTW, Randall's and Tom Thumb really suck.)

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Rocket Ray

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May 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/22/97
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Norman Richards <o...@cs.utexas.edu> wrote:
> >You will not see customers "crazing" the fruit counters which
> >is popular in the not-so-Ameircan chains.
>
> Out of curiousity, how does one "craze" fruit?


Well, for example, you could point at it and say, "You're ugly and your
mama dresses you funny! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"


Rocket "works every time" Ray

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David...

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May 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/22/97
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Olin Murrell wrote:

> As for Walmart, you might want to visit some of the websites that
> complain loudly about this company, and talk to some of the mom and pop
> establishments they've allgedly driven out of business.
>
> So much for "more information."

Olin, You should have contacted the home office of Randalls in
Houston. Im sure they would love to know the name of any manager who is
offending customers but not refunding money owed to them.

As far as Walmart is concerned, just like Randalls, I absolutely love
them. In the great white northeast, some small towns told Walmart to
not bother building a store there, and Walmart did as they requested,
however, in many other small towns, Walmart has taken over and pushed
out the competition. Those towns people did not unite to warn Walmart,
and once there, they did not decide to stay out of Walmart and support
the mom and pops in the area.
That is the good ol free market at work. In both cases, the towns people
spoke and got what they wanted.

GO GET'EM Walmart!

David...

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May 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/22/97
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Sure that is their normal mode of operation. They will likely build a
fantastic Flagship there and that will be one fine store!

David...

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May 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/22/97
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Stephen Whitis wrote:
>
> Would the person who Emailed me trying to tell me that David
> isn't racist please send another Email?
>
> For someone that claims to be a christian, David sure preaches
> hatred more than anything else. Come to think of it, I'm not sure
> I've seen him in favor of anything except hatred.
>
> On Wed, 21 May 1997 21:06:58 -0500, "David..." <davi...@flash.net>
> wrote:

Hmm, I guess I would be a good liberal if I accepted the
side-show/mart junk that is common at some nasty stores? The fact is
that they are typical Mexican styled open air marts selling all kinds of
junk with loud music playing in a foreign tongue. Sorry, but as a
"white-bread-honkey", I dislike the sidewalk open air marts in front of
stores. Especially those that have loud music playing in a foreign
tongue. That is why I avoid those stores. I go to wonderful, clean,
neat, and sometimes expensive Randalls. Oh, one thing I forgot to
mention is that Randalls has fantastic meat. Their hamburger is very
high grade! Their steaks and roasts are far above normal quality. But,
the price of beef at Randalls is not much more than anywhere else.
And because they are so CLEAN!, I buy lots of their beef and pork chops!
ALSO, if you ever have a problem with any meat from Randalls, they will,
without question, replace it or refund your money.

David...

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May 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/22/97
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Rocket Ray wrote:

>
> Norman Richards <o...@cs.utexas.edu> wrote:
> > >You will not see customers "crazing" the fruit counters which
> > >is popular in the not-so-Ameircan chains.
> >
> > Out of curiousity, how does one "craze" fruit?
>
> Well, for example, you could point at it and say, "You're ugly and your
> mama dresses you funny! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"
>
> Rocket "works every time" Ray
>
> ...Madness takes its toll. Have exact change ready.
>
> --
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> http://www.io.com/~areray Festina lente.
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> "The sun is gonna shine... in our back yard... some day." :) :) :)

HEHEHE!

David...

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May 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/22/97
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Rod Patten wrote:

>
> In article <5m1heh$e3c$1...@nw001.infi.net>, te...@sl001.infi.net (Ted Samsel) says:
>
> >Go back north Davey boy!
>
> According to his post to austin.general on May 20th (article # 5969)
> David is a proud Texan and Rebel flag owner/seller.
>
> :(
>
> Rod

Yep, a proud Texan and a Rebel Flag owner/seller. I also sell Texas,
and US flags too. But I love the symbol of the South, though it is
thought of by some dim-whits as a symbol of the KKK when in reality, the
KKK use the flag as a symbol of the South and of battle. I find that
the Ku Klux Klan is a part of American history as are other groups like
La Raza, and the Black Panthers. Yet, I see no reason to hate the flag
that is only a symbol of the South. Many of us Southerners fly the
battle flag proudly never thinking once of the KKK, La Raza, or the
Panthers.

David...

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May 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/22/97
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Ted Samsel wrote:
>
> David... (davi...@flash.net) wrote:
> : > let them know what you think.
>
> : HEY! Dont stop Randalls. Listen to what I have to say prior to
> : mailing a complaint to them!
>
> : I get to deal in business with Randalls monthly. I know the stores in
> : my town and in DFW. They are clean, clean, clean! The people are nice.
> : They are all US citizens! The stores are prime examples of Americanism,
> : unlike some chains that seem to cater to NON-Americans. I would also
> : like to suggest that a Randalls store in your area will help, not hinder
> : your property values should you decide to sell. These stores are fine
> : indeed. You will pay just a bit more for the fine atmosphere of
> : americana, but once you shop there, you'll never want to shop anywhere
> : else.
>
> Hailfahr! Austin's gonna be as white-bread-honkey as Plano if'n you
> don't watch out. Where's a man with a hangover going to be able to
> buy a comforting bowl of menudo on a Sunday morning? And they prob-
> ably won't sell lard or collards, neither.
>
> Go back north Davey boy!
>
> I want meat markets with dead critters. Not plastic wrap!
>
> --
>
> Ted Samsel....tejas@infi.net
> "do the boogie woogie in the South American way"
> Rhumba Boogie- Hank Snow (1955)

Looks like you'll just have to get used to the "white-bread-honkey" way
around here. Its coming down the road: 1836 all over again. The
Mexicans want things one way, and the "white-bread-honkies" want it
another.

Norman Richards

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> Looks like you'll just have to get used to the "white-bread-honkey" way
>around here. Its coming down the road: 1836 all over again. The
>Mexicans want things one way, and the "white-bread-honkies" want it
>another.

Ok, everybody sing!

If you're a racist and you know it, clap your hands. (clap clap)
If you're a racist and you know it, clap your hands. (clap clap)
If you're a racist and you know it, then your life should surely show it
If you're a racist and you know it, clap your hands. (clap clap)

Olin Murrell

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David... wrote:
>
> Olin Murrell wrote:
>
> > As for Walmart, you might want to visit some of the websites that
> > complain loudly about this company, and talk to some of the mom and pop
> > establishments they've allgedly driven out of business.
> >
> > So much for "more information."
>
> Olin, You should have contacted the home office of Randalls in
> Houston. Im sure they would love to know the name of any manager who is
> offending customers but not refunding money owed to them.
>

Probably, but for my money, when I'm insulted by a checker, AND a floor
manager, that's about it. There are too many stores for me to continue
doing any kind of business with such. I may well go to ANOTHER Randalls
at some point in the future, but that one will not see my carcass again.

> As far as Walmart is concerned, just like Randalls, I absolutely love
> them. In the great white northeast, some small towns told Walmart to
> not bother building a store there, and Walmart did as they requested,
> however, in many other small towns, Walmart has taken over and pushed
> out the competition. Those towns people did not unite to warn Walmart,
> and once there, they did not decide to stay out of Walmart and support
> the mom and pops in the area.

Oh, I'll grant you the local customer base bears a good bit of the
blame, but having lived through the great Gibson's Discount Store
debacles, where you might purchase a lawnmower with only three wheels,
only to find out that it was YOUR problem, a lot of small towns are just
a wee bit leary of big discount chains.

What the hell does "white" have to do with this discussion?

> That is the good ol free market at work. In both cases, the towns people
> spoke and got what they wanted.
>

Ah yes, the alleged "free market." This has never been a totally free
market nation, and were it ever to really become one, I have a sneaking
suspicion the ones currently yelling the loudest FOR one would be the
ones yelling the loudest at the abuses of a completely free market.

I have no problem with competition, but Walmart against Joe Bob's
drive-in hardware store hardly seems like "competition." When Joe Bob
has the bulk buying power of Walmart, THEN, and only then, will he have
anything resembling a fair shot at your so-called "free market."

> GO GET'EM Walmart!

I'll just wager old Sam Walton's spinning like a dreidel in his grave
these days, following what's become of his company. Walked into one
Walmart a year or so ago to buy a watch battery. Simple purchase, right?
Wrong! Lady says, "Did you buy your watch here?"

"Well, no," says I.

She then proceeds to tell me she's sorry, but they don't work on watches
they haven't sold. Off we go to the manager, who confirms her ridiculous
statement. Off I go to another store with my $5 or $10.

Maybe that's the niche old Joe Bob can serve... selling watch batteries
to folks who bought their watches somewhere else, INCLUDING Walmart...
or for that matter, Randalls.

Rod Patten

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In article <5m1heh$e3c$1...@nw001.infi.net>, te...@sl001.infi.net (Ted Samsel) says:

>Go back north Davey boy!

According to his post to austin.general on May 20th (article # 5969)

Olin Murrell

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David... wrote:
>
> Yep, a proud Texan and a Rebel Flag owner/seller. I also sell Texas,
> and US flags too. But I love the symbol of the South, though it is
> thought of by some dim-whits as a symbol of the KKK when in reality, the
> KKK use the flag as a symbol of the South and of battle. I find that
> the Ku Klux Klan is a part of American history as are other groups like
> La Raza, and the Black Panthers. Yet, I see no reason to hate the flag
> that is only a symbol of the South. Many of us Southerners fly the
> battle flag proudly never thinking once of the KKK, La Raza, or the
> Panthers.

That's one of the funny things about free speech. Say something, and
somebody, somewhere is bound to disagree with you. Here's a news flash
for you. The South LOST the war! It's over! Kaput! Done with! Scored
Yankees 1, Rebels 0!

Now, I'll grant you that a flag is just a symbol. It means something to
you, but it also means something altogether different to others. Ya
wanna talk about 1836 all over again, and how the "Mexicans" want things
different than "whitey," then you'd do well to READ some Texas history.
'Cause, if you do, you'll find there is a REASON why not a few Texas
locales are named after Hispanics. A boatload of Mexicans fought for
Texas Independence, right along side all those white boys.

And, just so there's no mistake, a whole lot of those white boys came to
Texas no more than a step or two ahead of the local gendarmes in North
Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee and West "By God" Virginia.

It's not real bright to wave a red flag in front of a bull, and then
start whining when the bull charges.

Aaron Evans

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On Wed, 21 May 1997 20:45:40 -0500, "David..." <davi...@flash.net>
wrote:

> I get to deal in business with Randalls monthly. I know the stores in
>my town and in DFW. They are clean, clean, clean! The people are nice.
>They are all US citizens! The stores are prime examples of Americanism,
>unlike some chains that seem to cater to NON-Americans.

Allow me to expand on what American is and why Randalls is not.

First, with an example. I worked for Randalls in high school. The
only thing higher than the employee turnover was that of the
customers. The store couldn't do anything without alienating their
market. You ask, did they respond by cutting prices and improving
selection? No, they bought Ann Landers instead.

What's American is the entrepreneurial spirit. Realizing a market
which has been under utilized, working hard to fill that niche, and
making a lot of money in the progress. Randalls is not an example of
this because they don't offer any product worth buying on it's own
merit. Fiesta, on the other hand, is very American. Someone saw a
market which wasn't being utilized. They made a product, it was good,
people bought it. If Randalls was more like Fiesta it wouldn't suck
so bad.

Aaron Evans (aaron...@mail.utexas.edu)

It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer,
or the baker, that we expect our dinner, but from their
regard to their own interest. - Adam Smith.

Natalie

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>> Hmm, I guess I would be a good liberal if I accepted the
>side-show/mart junk that is common at some nasty stores? The fact is
>that they are typical Mexican styled open air marts selling all kinds of
>junk with loud music playing in a foreign tongue. Sorry, but as a
>"white-bread-honkey", I dislike the sidewalk open air marts in front of
>stores. Especially those that have loud music playing in a foreign
>tongue. That is why I avoid those stores. I go to wonderful, clean,
>neat, and sometimes expensive Randalls. Oh, one thing I forgot to
>mention is that Randalls has fantastic meat. Their hamburger is very
>high grade! Their steaks and roasts are far above normal quality. But,
>the price of beef at Randalls is not much more than anywhere else.
>And because they are so CLEAN!, I buy lots of their beef and pork chops!
>ALSO, if you ever have a problem with any meat from Randalls, they will,
>without question, replace it or refund your money.

I bet you think McDonald's is a really great restaurant too don't you?

You are SO predictably white.

Nat.

Dav.

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> --
> Olin Murrell
> Austin, Texas
> http://www.realtime.com/~olin

Well, Sam Walton built his business from the bottom up in rual towns
of the south. Then, once he became a big outfit, he moved in on larger
towns. He initially faced off with K-marts etc too, but he had a growth
plan and a concept of what people liked in store design, and product
line. When you see that now Walmart is the nations largest retailer,
you have to figure ol Sam was right on track. The mom and pop stores
out there have to realize that competition is the name of the game and
there are no absolutes with regard to the future. The stores with the
best prices often win. Who want to pay more just because its a mom and
pop store? If mom and pop did not expand their product line and number
of stores then move into different towns over the years when Walmart was
just growing up, whose to blame?
My reference to the "great white northeast" is a play on the words
"great white north" which means cold and snowy northern regions. But,
in this era of "you white folks are trying to hold us "fill in your
favorite group" down", you have to explain all color references so as to
avoid being called a nazi skin-head Ku Klux Klansman.
A side note: I have recently realized that it is very politically
incorrect for white people to promote the white race. If you are not
white, and you want to promote your race, that is fine and likely Bill
Clinton will grant you several million dollars to help you along the
way. But, if your white, you had better keep your mouth shut!
That realization came after hearing a large group of liberals on TV
recently. They basically said the above words. I guess I have been
living in a cave somewhere. I didnt realize that whites were so
disliked by some leaders of some racial groups. Oh well, just another
bug on the windshield of life.

Dav.

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Have you taken your Prozac today?

Dav.

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Olin Murrell wrote:

> Now, I'll grant you that a flag is just a symbol. It means something to
> you, but it also means something altogether different to others.

Yes, I know. I see the hispanic groups marching around the Texas
Capital building because the "whitey" cut out welfare for aliens. They
were carrying the green and white flag with the vulture in the center of
it.

>Ya
> wanna talk about 1836 all over again, and how the "Mexicans" want things
> different than "whitey," then you'd do well to READ some Texas history.

I know Texas history backwards and forwards. I see so many pissed off
hispanics that are saying "we are taking over!!!!!!!" That is what the
Mexican army said before the came to meet Mr Sam Houston. You are right
that there were a few Mexicans who wanted Texas to be free from Mexico,
but when you look around today, you do not see that sentiment reflected
in the attitudes of their descendants.

It Looks like 1836 all over again. Sam Houston must be spinning like a
top in his grave.

> It's not real bright to wave a red flag in front of a bull, and then
> start whining when the bull charges.

I agree, and neither is it real bright to wave a Mexican flag in the
face of a Texan.

Like you said about the South vs the North, the Mexican war is over.

We Won!

Dav.

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