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Stephen & Dawn Walker

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Feb 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/14/99
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I was wondering if the Gingko tree will grow in our rocky, alkaline
soils. Does anyone have any experience with it here? Also, is it still
ok to plant container grown trees in late February/March? If it is not
a good time, I will wait until next fall. A third, and final, question:
Does anyone have experience with Red Barn Garden Centers? Is that a
good place to buy trees? They do have a one-year warranty and lots of
natives. Thanks for any help!

Dawn
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Farias

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Feb 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/15/99
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The Gingko has a reputation for surviving in a wide range of soils and
conditions. I planted one in my yard, but it's too soon to tell yet how it's
going to do. I've heard that there are some large, old Gingkos just west of
downtown Austin.

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George Farris

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Feb 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/15/99
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I have wondered about this as well after seeing the trees on the streets of
Manhattan and being charmed by their beautiful leaves. I was told that the trees
thrive in poor air quality conditions and can withstand extremes of heat and
cold. Since I'd not seen the trees here at nurseries I assumed that they were
not a suitable for Austin. Did you get your gingko tree from a nursery here in
Austin and if so where?

Luis Gomes

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Feb 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/15/99
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There's a very nice gingko on the corner of West and 16th street (or maybe
17th street). Other than that one, the best gingko I've ever seen is outside
the Tyler, TX city hall. That tree has to be close to eighty feet tall, and
a good two feet in diameter.

My own personal experience with a gingko has been negative. It was one of
three trees I planted as soon as I moved into my new house, and two years of
early-summer-leaf-drop later I finally put it out of its misery (despite an
emergency transplant into a more shaded location with deeper soil, which
helped some, but only temporarily). I've now planted about 15 or so trees,
and so far it's still the only one that's ever died on me.

I've toyed with the idea of giving a gingko another shot, since I just like
them so much. In all truth, that first gingko suffered from my gardening
newbieness (It was too large -- 20 gallons, I got it at Home Depot -
bleargh!, I planted it in midsummer, etc...) Every now and then I tell
myself that I could do a much better job with another gingko, but deep down
I know that there are dozens of better-adapted trees species that would be
much happier in my yard.

luis

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Jim....@neighbor.com

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Feb 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/15/99
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> Stephen & Dawn Walker wrote in message <36C79E59...@texas.net>...
> >I was wondering if the Gingko tree will grow in our rocky, alkaline
> >soils.

> The Gingko has a reputation for surviving in a wide range of soils and
> conditions.

They will do fine. I have one at Zilker Gardens that I know is at least 23
years old. It is planted right in the side of the hill.

Jim
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Farias

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Feb 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/15/99
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I got my gingko from Gardenville nursery in southwest Austin; they were hard
to find but well worth the effort. They have a large variety of native and
hard-to-find plants.

I got another one from a vendor at the Zilker Gardens garden show (used to
be known as Florarama). I think it's in April. Other vendors there said
they had them at their nurseries but not at the show. That one hasn't fared
well. It was in a flooded area of the yard and not doing well, so my wife
pulled it up (literally) to transplant it. I don't know how it's going to
survive that shock.

I plan to persist with the gingkos; they are one of my favorite trees. I
gave up on tropicals though, after planting a Jacaranda, a Royal Poinciana
and a Baobab (all of which I brought from a warmer climate) and seeing them
die this winter.
Sam

Ruth McKay

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Feb 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/17/99
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G'day

Farias wrote:

> I gave up on tropicals though, after planting a Jacaranda, a Royal Poinciana
> and a Baobab (all of which I brought from a warmer climate) and seeing them
> die this winter.

Where were you ? Central Austin or the Hill Country ? It didn't strike me
as really cold this year. I know I should really just plant natives. But
occasionally the australian in me yearns for the trees I know back home.
Just reading that someone tried a Jacaranda and a Poinciana in Austin
brought a lump to my throat.

DrRuth
who remembers well the Jacaranda Festival in Toowoomba - streets lined
with huge trees smothered in pale purple flowers

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Stephen & Dawn Walker

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Feb 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/17/99
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Thanks to everyone for the advice!  I think I will plant a Ginkgo (I realized that I spelled it wrong in my original post).

Dawn

Mick & Tammy mt

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Feb 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/17/99
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Dawn,
You may also want to check out this site http://www.dirtdoctor.com/
It's Howard Garrett's site. He recommends planting Ginkgo trees.
Tammy

Farias

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Feb 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/17/99
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We live on Oak Hill. It got cold enough that the plants look dead, but I'm
not for sure yet that they might come back. We grew them from seeds while we
were living in Larado, and then planted them in the yard of our new house in
September. The weather in January may have done them in.
Ruth McKay wrote in message ...

Farias

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Feb 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/17/99
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We live in Oak Hill and planted the trees in our yard in September. The
January weather hit them pretty hard. They were grown from seeds while we
were living in Laredo. They may still come back, but right now they look
pretty sad. Also a Bird of Paradise we planted looks like it's not going to
make it either.

JFR

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Feb 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/18/99
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George Farris wrote:
>
> I have wondered about this as well after seeing the trees on the streets of
> Manhattan and being charmed by their beautiful leaves. I was told that the trees
> thrive in poor air quality conditions and can withstand extremes of heat and
> cold. Since I'd not seen the trees here at nurseries I assumed that they were
> not a suitable for Austin. Did you get your gingko tree from a nursery here in
> Austin and if so where?
>
> Farias wrote:
>
> > The Gingko has a reputation for surviving in a wide range of soils and
> > conditions. I planted one in my yard, but it's too soon to tell yet how it's

> > going to do. I've heard that there are some large, old Gingkos just west of
> > downtown Austin.
> >
> > Stephen & Dawn Walker wrote in message <36C79E59...@texas.net>...
> > >I was wondering if the Gingko tree will grow in our rocky, alkaline
> > >soils. Does anyone have any experience with it here? Also, is it still
> > >ok to plant container grown trees in late February/March? If it is not
> > >a good time, I will wait until next fall. A third, and final, question:
> > >Does anyone have experience with Red Barn Garden Centers? Is that a
> > >good place to buy trees? They do have a one-year warranty and lots of
> > >natives. Thanks for any help!
> > >
> > >Dawn
> > >step...@texas.net
> > >


Well, if you have not seen them in the Nurseries, especially Home Repot
or Walmart, then they probably ARE suitable plants for the climate in
Austin........ ;^)

John R>

Farias

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Feb 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/18/99
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That's probably true about the hardware stores. I've seen a lot of trees
including river birches for sale at the hardware and dept. stores here in
Austin -- that would never grow in this climate. Even if you ask nurseryman
for recommendations, they often recommend items that they're overstocked
with and trying to unload rather than what grows well here. The best source
I've found is the book, Gardening Success with Difficult Soils - Limestone,
Alkaline Clay and Caliche, by Scott Ogden. The publisher is Taylor
Publishing in Dallas. The trees he recommends for limestone soil are cedar
elms, American elm, Chinese Lacebark Elm, Oak trees including the white and
red oaks, Box-elder, and Canyon or Big-tooth maples. Also if you're
interested in fall color, there were some sweet-gums trees in front of the
Wells Fargo Bank at Bee Caves and Hwy 360 this winter that turned beautiful
colors. I didn't think those would grow well here either -- but there they
are.

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DHarper615

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Feb 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/19/99
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There's also a gingko on 32nd just west of Guadalupe, on the south side of the
street. It's apparently a fairly young tree, maybe 15-20 feet tall and
somewhat narrow. The fall foliage most years is spectacular. I don't live in
that area but frequently travel down that street on the way to the campus area.

Dave in Allandale

TreeDoc

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Feb 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/20/99
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In article <36C79E59...@texas.net>, Stephen & Dawn Walker
<step...@texas.net> wrote:

> I was wondering if the Gingko tree will grow in our rocky, alkaline
> soils. Does anyone have any experience with it here? Also, is it still
> ok to plant container grown trees in late February/March? If it is not
> a good time, I will wait until next fall. A third, and final, question:
> Does anyone have experience with Red Barn Garden Centers? Is that a
> good place to buy trees? They do have a one-year warranty and lots of
> natives. Thanks for any help!
>
> Dawn
> step...@texas.net

Dawn,

My two cents worth. I am less than satisified with Gingkos I have seen in
this area. I am not sure why, but very few seem to really do well. They
are an ancient tree and interesting tree though.

Dennis

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