Egg Roll Stand on the Drag BUSTED!!!
Fred
fencing stolen goods. I guess they would pay off the sellers with egg
rolls ;-0
Fred...
Robert Hansen
news:3d139542....@news.jump.net...
Here's a better link:
http://www.austin360.com/aas/metro/062102/0621eggroll.html
I find it amazing that they've supposedly been doing this for three years,
but Austin's finest *just* made the arrests. It took "several tips".
BTW - didn't we just have a discussion about hygiene at said eggroll carts?
Some of us were worried about the proprietor handling money as well as
making eggrolls. It turns out they were handling a hell of a lot more than
money.
-- rah (who was never asked "You want Sweet and Sour, Honey Mustard, or
Valium with that?")
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Steve Wertz
>
> "Fred" <fr...@nospam.austinnc.com> wrote in message
> news:3d139542....@news.jump.net...
> > Here is a link to the whole story. They were basically busted for
> > fencing stolen goods. I guess they would pay off the sellers with egg
> > rolls ;-0
> >
> >
> http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/keye/20020621/lo/ut_drag_vendors_charged_with_b
> uying_stolen_goods_1.html
> >
> > Fred...
>
> Here's a better link:
>
> http://www.austin360.com/aas/metro/062102/0621eggroll.html
>
> I find it amazing that they've supposedly been doing this for three years,
> but Austin's finest *just* made the arrests. It took "several tips".
>
> BTW - didn't we just have a discussion about hygiene at said eggroll carts?
> Some of us were worried about the proprietor handling money as well as
> making eggrolls. It turns out they were handling a hell of a lot more than
> money.
This is hillarious. I bought some egg rolls last week and some bum was
trying to trade some watches for some egg rolls. The lady (Lieu Thi Pham)
didn't even seem to look at the watches and turned the guy down flat. The
guy was trying to sell them at first, then he just tried settling for egg
rolls. Still, no deal. The guy was being pretty pushy, to the point where
I almost stepped in and told the guy to get lost myself. I felt it was my
duty to help ward off bums harassing hardworking, egg-rolling immigrants,
and all - ya know?
Little did I know, but the may have been an undercover cop.
I wonder if this means there won't be any egg rolls next season?
I didn't know there was more than one egg roll cart (was there?).
-sw
Hope Munro Smith
Well, there's the one on the Drag itself, one on 24th at the
Littlefield fountain, and on Dean Keeton just after Speedway.
That second one has completely different people I think.
Steve Wertz
>
> Here is a link to the whole story. They were basically busted for
> fencing stolen goods.
How big of an operation could this really have been? I mean.. that lady
is already packing a lot of food in that cart; there's really not much
room for much more.
When I think of Organized Crime - Trafficing/Fencing Stolen Goods, I think
of tractor trailers and shady loading dock deals, not eggroll carts. Unless
they have some evidence of them passing the stuff in lot-quantity sales,
and doing business outside of the eggroll-cart operation, this sounds
pretty small time stuff. Especially if the 'investigation' took 3 years.
A fishing pole here, an eggroll there, big deal.
Looks like ther'll be a street vendor license available next fall....
-sw (The EggRoll Guy)
Sluggo the Flusher
> Looks like ther'll be a street vendor license available next fall....
Egg rolls?! What we need is Takoyaki, Okonomiyaki and Yakiimo stands in the
streets of Austin!!
*slug*
"Mmmm... Takoyaki..." (a la Homer Simpson)
Sluggo the Flusher
My wife just told me she had something from one of the now-infamous eggroll
carts a few years ago and became violently ill afterwards. Now I'm glad I
never tried'em.
*slug*
Steve Wertz
>
> Steve Wertz wrote:
>
> > Looks like ther'll be a street vendor license available next fall....
>
> Egg rolls?! What we need is Takoyaki, Okonomiyaki and Yakiimo stands in the
> streets of Austin!!
And while we're on the subject of things I can't make as good as I can buy
from someone else, I'd like some real Mung Bean Pancakes, like they sell on
the streets of Pittsburgh.
I think I've decided on Vietnamese Beef/Pork Sausage wrapped in Grape Leaves
and grilled, w/nuoc mam dipping sauce for tomorrow. I call first dibs on the
grill!
-sw
Doc
>
> How big of an operation could this really have been? I mean.. that lady
> is already packing a lot of food in that cart; there's really not much
> room for much more.
>
Well, the cart at Dean Keaton, under the walking bridge, nearly always
had that minivan there moving cartons and coolers of food around.
I think it's a damn drag. I loved their Indian Bread "Sandwiches",
and their fried rice was a hell of a cheap, good snack.
Then again, I always kind of wondered how they could make a profit at
those prices....
Doc
Scott Kurland
> is already packing a lot of food in that cart; there's really not much
> room for much more.
>
think
> of tractor trailers and shady loading dock deals, not eggroll carts.
Unless
> they have some evidence of them passing the stuff in lot-quantity sales,
> and doing business outside of the eggroll-cart operation, this sounds
> pretty small time stuff. Especially if the 'investigation' took 3 years.
>
> A fishing pole here, an eggroll there, big deal.
$62K in cash here, $200K in merchandise, there....
Steve Wertz
A lot of people, especially immigrants, keep cash at home. And these people
run a few legitimate 'businesses', too. And $200K in 'goods'? The PD always
overestimates their claims for the books and public; just like in drug raids.
2lbs of pot does *not* have a street value of $7,500, contrary to their claims
(unless it's really good pot - in which case it wouldn't be for sale in TX).
On the news report last night they wanted to stress "This is not a Mom & Pop
Operation" (as the detective seemed at a loss for words).
-sw
Hope Munro Smith
> On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 02:26:23 GMT, Steve Wertz <swe...@texas.net> wrote:
> >
> > How big of an operation could this really have been? I mean.. that lady
> > is already packing a lot of food in that cart; there's really not much
> > room for much more.
> >
>
> Well, the cart at Dean Keaton, under the walking bridge, nearly always
> had that minivan there moving cartons and coolers of food around.
Today's AAS says that's how they moved along the
fenced goods.
>
> I think it's a damn drag. I loved their Indian Bread "Sandwiches",
> and their fried rice was a hell of a cheap, good snack.
Yes, that Indian Bread is a yummy quick lunch.
I didn't notice if they were there the other day.
Apparently that cart is the same family (see today's AAS)
but it's not clear if they were shut down too.
>
> Then again, I always kind of wondered how they could make a profit at
> those prices....
>
They do a lot of business during the day. Whoever takes their
place will clean up.
Frank Mancuso
Motorblade
>> had that minivan there moving cartons and coolers of food around.
>
>Today's AAS says that's how they moved along the
>fenced goods.
>
>
Sorry the AAS said the dean keaton location did not do the fencing, the drag
location was where the sting centered. The dean keaton has mostly student
action and the drag had more diversions going on.
"fritz"
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Joann Zimmerman
motor...@aol.comnohype says...
> Sorry the AAS said the dean keaton location did not do the fencing, the drag
> location was where the sting centered. The dean keaton has mostly student
> action and the drag had more diversions going on.
Note that the bunch busted was called "Long Beach Eggrolls." The RLM and
21st st locations are manned by a group called "Saigon Eggrolls." They,
too, have Indian bread--kept me going one busy semester.
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Joann Zimmerman jz...@bellereti.com
Terry Horton
<jz...@bellereti.com> wrote:
>In article <20020622113446...@mb-ca.aol.com>,
>motor...@aol.comnohype says...
>
>> Sorry the AAS said the dean keaton location did not do the fencing, the drag
>> location was where the sting centered. The dean keaton has mostly student
>> action and the drag had more diversions going on.
>
>Note that the bunch busted was called "Long Beach Eggrolls." The RLM and
>21st st locations are manned by a group called "Saigon Eggrolls." They,
>too, have Indian bread--kept me going one busy semester.
Both have been around since the '70s. Glad to hear it wasn't Saigon.
Elliot Richmond
Smith) wrote:
>Well, there's <snip> one on 24th at the
>Littlefield fountain, and on Dean Keeton just after Speedway.
>That second one has completely different people I think.
I hope so. it is called (I think) Saigon Kitchen, or something like
that. They have taken a LOT of my money over the last 10 years and
sold me a LOT of egg rolls, fried rice, and other good stuff. I can't
complain about the service and I love to eat my lunch up the hill
while ogling the coeds.
Elliot Richmond
Freelance science writer and editor
Austin, Texas
Elliot Richmond
>
> I think it's a damn drag. I loved their Indian Bread "Sandwiches",
>and their fried rice was a hell of a cheap, good snack.
>
I'm pretty sure this is a different place: Saigon Kitchen.
JLH
What I don't get, is how on earth can it take 3 YEARS to investigate this ???
Doc
> On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 07:17:48 GMT, Doc <d...@eggrolls.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think it's a damn drag. I loved their Indian Bread "Sandwiches",
>>and their fried rice was a hell of a cheap, good snack.
>>
>
> I'm pretty sure this is a different place: Saigon Kitchen.
No, I'm really sure it's a little kiosk/cart on about 21st or 22nd &
Guadalupe. I understand the one on Dean Keaton is a different company,
but their menu (and the food, as far as I can tell) is identical.
I like Saigon Kitchen on South IH35, too. We call it "Point & Pray."
You point at the menu and pray that the non-English-speakingwaitress gets
it right.
Doc
Doc
> On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 00:58:25 GMT, hop...@mail.utexas.edu (Hope Munro
> Smith) wrote:
>
>>Well, there's <snip> one on 24th at the
>>Littlefield fountain, and on Dean Keeton just after Speedway.
>>That second one has completely different people I think.
>
> I hope so. it is called (I think) Saigon Kitchen, or something like
> that. They have taken a LOT of my money over the last 10 years and
> sold me a LOT of egg rolls, fried rice, and other good stuff. I can't
> complain about the service and I love to eat my lunch up the hill
> while ogling the coeds.
You mean Saigon Eggroll?
Doc
Robert Hansen
news:u4r9huof55ftuk376...@4ax.com...
>
> What I don't get, is how on earth can it take 3 YEARS to investigate this
???
>
We're talking Austin here. When it comes to the city government, *nothing*
gets done in a timely manner.
-- rah
wer...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
> It sounds like it was a damn good Mom & Pop operation!
.... gone bad ! :-))
in all my years, I never touched anything off a vendor's cart in Austin.
I'd like to be able to claim that "something smelled bad there" but the
truth is, I never got near enough to smell anything...
a Vietnamese restaurant in the Texas Union could *REALLY* clean up (especially
one that would deliver to 'the office') but people ankle deep in oil usually
have no business sense for labour intensive enterprise.... so they'ld surely
screw that up, too ...
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GWS
wrote:
>
>A lot of people, especially immigrants, keep cash at home. And these people
>run a few legitimate 'businesses', too. And $200K in 'goods'? The PD always
>overestimates their claims for the books and public; just like in drug raids.
>2lbs of pot does *not* have a street value of $7,500, contrary to their claims
>(unless it's really good pot - in which case it wouldn't be for sale in TX).
>
>On the news report last night they wanted to stress "This is not a Mom & Pop
>Operation" (as the detective seemed at a loss for words).
>
>-sw
It is a well-known fact among law enforcement that Vietnamese
first-generation immigrants tend to keep their cash at home, thus
becoming victims of home invasions by gang members. This was a major
problem in Southern California at one time. Not sure if Chief Knee was
still in Garden Grove at the time...
The $200K counts every 10-year old VCR at its book value, not its
current fair market value. Standard police accounting.
Motorblade
>???
>>
>
>We're talking Austin here. When it comes to the city government, *nothing*
>gets done in a timely manner.
>
>-- rah
>
The city police = city government I don't know about that. I would geuss that
they needed time to set up surveillance and get enough evidence to make a good
case. It probably has more to do with the requirements of the justice system to
convict them and the need to get all the perps involved on tape . If they only
got tape of one or two in the family then the others might walk away.
Steve Wertz
>
> >> What I don't get, is how on earth can it take 3 YEARS to investigate this
> >???
> >>
> >
> >We're talking Austin here. When it comes to the city government, *nothing*
> >gets done in a timely manner.
> >
> >-- rah
> >
>
> The city police = city government I don't know about that. I would geuss that
> they needed time to set up surveillance and get enough evidence to make a good
> case. It probably has more to do with the requirements of the justice system to
> convict them and the need to get all the perps involved on tape . If they only
> got tape of one or two in the family then the others might walk away.
I wonder how many actual man-hours it took, and if it'll really be worth it.
-sw
Prentiss Riddle
:> I think it's a damn drag. I loved their Indian Bread "Sandwiches",
:> and their fried rice was a hell of a cheap, good snack.
:
: Yes, that Indian Bread is a yummy quick lunch.
Having lived off their food during my undergrad years ('78-'84), I've
always found their eclectic menu amusing. The reason they serve so
many different kinds of food is that, whenever someone else seemed
ready to make a go of selling something else, the eggroll stand would
copy their recipe and undercut their prices. I remember when tacos
and Indian bread got added to the menu.
A couple of short-lived Drag street vendor items which didn't get
picked up by the eggroll stand, though, were falafel and samosas.
Maybe they folded for other reasons before the eggroll stand folks
had to do their magic.
Anybody else remember the wars between food vendors and UT at 23rd
and San Jacinto around 1979 or so? UT was asserting its right to
control the intersection and so repeatedly sent in the campus police
to arrest the vendors. What was the name of the sprout-intensive
hippie sandwich cart at the center of the fray? I remember one day
when a bagpiper was on the scene, photographers climbed light poles
to get dramatic angles on the action, and it was a real circus.
My vote for what the Drag most needs: a Bombay-style street food stand.
Dosa, pav bhaji, chai, lassi, etc., like what Swad serves on far
north Lamar. It need not be a restaurant but the food does have
to be cooked fresh, so a cart wouldn't do it. How about a walk-up
window in one of the Co-op's many underused properties?
-- Prentiss Riddle ("aprendiz de todo, maestro de nada")
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Manzoorul Hassan
>
>I wonder if this means there won't be any egg rolls next season?
>I didn't know there was more than one egg roll cart (was there?).
>
now?
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>
>They do a lot of business during the day. Whoever takes their
>place will clean up.
>
believe there was a Pizza place right next to the Eggroll stand on
26th/Speedway) try without the same level of success.
Marc Stephenson
Prentiss Riddle <rid...@eris.io.com> wrote:
...
>
>Anybody else remember the wars between food vendors and UT at 23rd
>and San Jacinto around 1979 or so? UT was asserting its right to
>control the intersection and so repeatedly sent in the campus police
>to arrest the vendors. What was the name of the sprout-intensive
>hippie sandwich cart at the center of the fray? I remember one day
>when a bagpiper was on the scene, photographers climbed light poles
>to get dramatic angles on the action, and it was a real circus.
>
Salvation Sandwiches?
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Joann Zimmerman
rid...@eris.io.com says...
> Anybody else remember the wars between food vendors and UT at 23rd
> and San Jacinto around 1979 or so? UT was asserting its right to
> control the intersection and so repeatedly sent in the campus police
> to arrest the vendors. What was the name of the sprout-intensive
> hippie sandwich cart at the center of the fray? I remember one day
> when a bagpiper was on the scene, photographers climbed light poles
> to get dramatic angles on the action, and it was a real circus.
Salvation Sandwiches. Also life-saving, if you were working downtown and
taking classes on your lunch hour. They had some peanut butter, bananas
and honey thing that was truly addictive and highly nutritious. Remember
their Drag branch, with the vendor's call? "Saaaal-va-tion SAND-wiches!
Spicy ICE Tea!"
> My vote for what the Drag most needs: a Bombay-style street food stand.
> Dosa, pav bhaji, chai, lassi, etc., like what Swad serves on far
> north Lamar. It need not be a restaurant but the food does have
> to be cooked fresh, so a cart wouldn't do it. How about a walk-up
> window in one of the Co-op's many underused properties?
Now *that* sounds like a plan. There's the Sarovar branch in the Dobie
food court, but as I've noted previously, it's massively underspiced.
Terry Horton
wrote:
>Anybody else remember the wars between food vendors and UT at 23rd
>and San Jacinto around 1979 or so?
Wasn't that about when the Art & Sausages Party took power?
Terry Horton
<jz...@bellereti.com> wrote:
>In article <_SFR8.114817$_j6.57...@bin3.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>,
>rid...@eris.io.com says...
>> Anybody else remember the wars between food vendors and UT at 23rd
>> and San Jacinto around 1979 or so? UT was asserting its right to
>> control the intersection and so repeatedly sent in the campus police
>> to arrest the vendors. What was the name of the sprout-intensive
>> hippie sandwich cart at the center of the fray?
>Salvation Sandwiches. Also life-saving, if you were working downtown and
>taking classes on your lunch hour. They had some peanut butter, bananas
>and honey thing that was truly addictive and highly nutritious. Remember
>their Drag branch, with the vendor's call? "Saaaal-va-tion SAND-wiches!
>Spicy ICE Tea!"
Like a siren's song to a hungry student. Remember how he trailed off
his call, jamming together and demphasizing the syllables as he
went... "SALvation sandwiches ICE cold lemonadespicyicetea"
"Hi... I'll have a turkey & provolone, please, and a medium lemonade."
RonB
Smith) wrote:
>In article <3D13C941...@texas.net>, Steve Wertz <swe...@texas.net> wrote:
>
>> Robert Hansen wrote:
>> >
>> > "Fred" <fr...@nospam.austinnc.com> wrote in message
>> > news:3d139542....@news.jump.net...
>> > > Here is a link to the whole story. They were basically busted for
>> > > fencing stolen goods. I guess they would pay off the sellers with egg
>> > > rolls ;-0
>> > >
>> > >
>> > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/keye/20020621/lo/ut_drag_vendors_charged_with_b
>> > uying_stolen_goods_1.html
>> > >
>> > > Fred...
>> >
>> > Here's a better link:
>> >
>> > http://www.austin360.com/aas/metro/062102/0621eggroll.html
>> >
>> > I find it amazing that they've supposedly been doing this for three years,
>> > but Austin's finest *just* made the arrests. It took "several tips".
>> >
>> > BTW - didn't we just have a discussion about hygiene at said eggroll carts?
>> > Some of us were worried about the proprietor handling money as well as
>> > making eggrolls. It turns out they were handling a hell of a lot more than
>> > money.
>>
>> This is hillarious. I bought some egg rolls last week and some bum was
>> trying to trade some watches for some egg rolls. The lady (Lieu Thi Pham)
>> didn't even seem to look at the watches and turned the guy down flat. The
>> guy was trying to sell them at first, then he just tried settling for egg
>> rolls. Still, no deal. The guy was being pretty pushy, to the point where
>> I almost stepped in and told the guy to get lost myself. I felt it was my
>> duty to help ward off bums harassing hardworking, egg-rolling immigrants,
>> and all - ya know?
>>
>> Little did I know, but the may have been an undercover cop.
>>
>> I wonder if this means there won't be any egg rolls next season?
>> I didn't know there was more than one egg roll cart (was there?).
>>
>
>Well, there's the one on the Drag itself, one on 24th at the
>Littlefield fountain, and on Dean Keeton just after Speedway.
>That second one has completely different people I think.
I am pretty sure they are all operated by the same people.
RonB
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RonB
wrote:
>Here is a link to the whole story. They were basically busted for
>fencing stolen goods. I guess they would pay off the sellers with egg
>rolls ;-0
>
>http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/keye/20020621/lo/ut_drag_vendors_charged_with_buying_stolen_goods_1.html
>
>Fred...
Damn, the roach coach is gone!!!!
Steve Wertz
>
> >
> >
> >I wonder if this means there won't be any egg rolls next season?
> >I didn't know there was more than one egg roll cart (was there?).
> >
> on the drag, I think, there used to be 2 different ones. Is there only 1
> now?
There's only one as long as I've been frequenting the drag (2 years).
There is another guy that camps out with a cart near the Egg Roll Suspect,
he doesn't sell edibles.
-sw
Hope Munro Smith
Are you thinking of the one who sells phone cards?
Hope Munro Smith
In today's Daily Texan, they said that vendors in the Renaissance
market were approached to buy merchandise. See:
http://www.dailytexanonline.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2002/06/24/3d16c18ef219c
Steve Wertz
Yeah, that and some occasional jewery and other nick-nacks. Was he a cop? :-)
-sw
Steve Wertz
> In today's Daily Texan, they said that vendors in the Renaissance
> market were approached to buy merchandise. See:
>
> http://www.dailytexanonline.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2002/06/24/3d16c18ef219c
It's statements like these that make me wonder how much the police
are exaggerating the actual depth of the crimes:
"They were doing more business than a lot of department
stores in town," [APD Detective] Stone said.
[shrug]
-sw
Joe D
The quote that gets me is:
> Diana George, a Renaissance Market jewelry vendor and apartment manager in
> West Campus, agrees with Stone, saying that crime will decrease because of
> the arrests.
> She said people with the stolen merchandise would often offer it to her
> first as they passed through the market on their way to the eggroll cart.
> George said the operators of the eggroll cart have been purchasing stolen
> goods for at least nine years - six years longer than the APD's estimate.
This person knew about it for NINE YEARS and didn't think to tell anyone?
Joe D
--
Let Elvis die.
Hope Munro Smith
Maybe she was also doing something illicit and didn't want
the police snooping around...
Hope Munro Smith
I dunno, but he always seemed way too cheery to be a vendor
on the Drag!