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Lawrence Person

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Apr 25, 2002, 12:11:47 AM4/25/02
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Has anyone else noticed that the Northcross Mall food court seems to be gone? (I
occasionally visited the gyro place there.) I don't know if they're giving it a
face lift or what, but that whole area seems to have temporary walls in place
all around it.

Given that, and that half the mall seems empty, it more and more resembles the
mall The House of Scotch Tape was in on SNL...

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David RL Gartner

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Apr 25, 2002, 12:39:16 AM4/25/02
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"Lawrence Person" <lawre...@hiho.com> wrote in message
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> Has anyone else noticed that the Northcross Mall food court seems to be
gone? (I
> occasionally visited the gyro place there.) I don't know if they're giving
it a
> face lift or what, but that whole area seems to have temporary walls in
place
> all around it.
>
> Given that, and that half the mall seems empty, it more and more resembles
the
> mall The House of Scotch Tape was in on SNL...

several months ago i read that they were closing the ice rink and that the
mall was to be converted into office space. could this be why it looks so
deserted?

david


Serious Pig

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Apr 25, 2002, 1:08:38 AM4/25/02
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That mall has always been dead. The only thng worthwhile is the Oshmans.
As for the food at the mall, Swensons and Hooters were still alive and
well a month ago, but that was it.

-sw

Serious Pig

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Apr 25, 2002, 1:32:37 AM4/25/02
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Karen Kay wrote:

> That gyro place was pretty good.

Scruffy's Convenience Store/Lunch Counter on 6th street.
Best Gyro left in town, even better than Ted's. I had
another one for lunch today - awesome.

OBFoodCourts; they generally suck anyway. Take Highland Mall
for example - Best thing going there is the Cozzolis with the
potato place coming in second. Throw the rest of them away;
not good food or value.

-sw

Norman Richards

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Apr 25, 2002, 1:33:59 AM4/25/02
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On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 04:11:47 GMT, Lawrence Person <lawre...@hiho.com> wrote:
> Has anyone else noticed that the Northcross Mall food court seems to
> be gone? (I occasionally visited the gyro place there.)

It's been mostly empty for the last 3 or 4. Actually, most of the
food court was empty well before then. The smoothie shop lasted the
longest, but it closed a little after Cozolli's and Taco Arriba a few
months back.

The gyro place you remember was gone at least a month before that.
The owner moved out really quickly one weekend and I never got a
chance to find out what he was going to do. He was great fun to talk
to though.

Most of the vendors there were just like him - small family owned
businesses. It was the same faces each time, which was quite a
constrast to the typical mall vendor with 16 year old employees that
tend to stay for a couple months at most.


> I don't know if they're giving it a face lift or what, but that
> whole area seems to have temporary walls in place all around it.

> [...]

I'm not sure what is happening with that area. I talked to the lady
at smoothie store several times when they were trying to decide
whether or not to stay open. She said that they weren't sure what the
Mall was going to do in the future, but when the skating rink shut
down they knew they wouldn't have enough business to be able to stay
open long enough to find out what would happen.



Norman Richards

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Apr 25, 2002, 1:39:54 AM4/25/02
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On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 05:32:37 GMT, Serious Pig <steve...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> OBFoodCourts; they generally suck anyway. Take Highland Mall
> for example - Best thing going there is the Cozzolis with the
> potato place coming in second. Throw the rest of them away;
> not good food or value.

The Cozzolis there was never as good as the one at Northcross. It's
hard to believe they are part of the same chain. The fries at
Gaylords aren't bad at all.

The only mall in Austin with good food is Dobie. And, now that
Northcross is gone, it's the only food court in town with any hang-out
factor. Dobie and Northcross were both places that I could spend a
whole weekend afternoon at. Come, grab a snack, read a book or do
dome work, watch a movie, hang out some more, eat dinner, play some
games, slack, slack, slack.

David RL Gartner

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Apr 25, 2002, 3:32:27 AM4/25/02
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"Serious Pig" <steve...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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<snip>

> OBFoodCourts; they generally suck anyway. Take Highland Mall
> for example - Best thing going there is the Cozzolis with the
> potato place coming in second. Throw the rest of them away;
> not good food or value.

yeah, except that at cozzolis you have to charge a minimum amount to use a
credit card. which really sucks, especially if it's your MC/Visa debit card
that you're wanting to use.

david


David RL Gartner

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Apr 25, 2002, 4:15:00 AM4/25/02
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"Norman Richards" <o...@jump.net> wrote in message
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> I'm not sure what is happening with that area. I talked to the lady
> at smoothie store several times when they were trying to decide
> whether or not to stay open. She said that they weren't sure what the
> Mall was going to do in the future, but when the skating rink shut
> down they knew they wouldn't have enough business to be able to stay
> open long enough to find out what would happen.

well, according to google, the mall has changed hands a couple of times
since 1998.
http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/stories/1998/06/08/tidbits.html
"...Mall shopping. A private North Texas investment company has purchased
Austin's Northcross Mall.

Buyer Midland Red Oak Realty closed the deal June 2.

The 387,000-square-foot mall at 7835 Northcross Drive is about 78 percent
occupied, says Rodger Anderson, president of United Commercial Realty in
Austin. Anderson and UCR broker Chris Marchbanks co-listed the property for
sale with Tom Salanty of the Cushman & Wakefield office in Dallas.

The seller was Schroeder Management Inc., the manager and adviser of the
owner, Fund-A Northcross Mall. The fund had owned the mall since 1988.

Midland Red Oak officials could not be reached for comment.

The Midland-based company owns several retail and downtown office properties
throughout the state, but Northcross Mall is believed to be the firm's first
Austin acquisition.

Sources say the buyer paid less than the $18 million sought by the seller
..."

http://tenant-search.net/dealmakers/2000Issues/october13/buyers__sellers.htm

"Midland Red Oak Realty has the listing to sell NorthCross Mall, a 302,689
sq.ft., 92% occupied mall in Austin, TX. The asking price is $25 million."

and i was trying to find something about the mall being converted to office
spaces, but i'm really tired, so i'm going to bed.

david


RonB

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Apr 25, 2002, 5:13:50 AM4/25/02
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Yea, so the Swensons and Hooters were alive and well, but what about
food options?

RonB


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Jed

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Apr 25, 2002, 7:50:11 AM4/25/02
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On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 04:11:47 GMT, Lawrence Person <lawre...@hiho.com> wrote:

>Has anyone else noticed that the Northcross Mall food court seems to be gone? (I
>occasionally visited the gyro place there.) I don't know if they're giving it a
>face lift or what, but that whole area seems to have temporary walls in place
>all around it.
>
>Given that, and that half the mall seems empty, it more and more resembles the
>mall The House of Scotch Tape was in on SNL...

Point taken, but in the skit, the rest of the mall was doing quite good.
PS: I've also had the same thought many times re certain operations at that
mall

Jed

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Apr 25, 2002, 7:51:36 AM4/25/02
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snip
-->>That mall has always been dead. The only thng worthwhile is the Oshmans.
-->>As for the food at the mall, Swensons and Hooters were still alive and
-->>well a month ago, but that was it.
-->
-->Yea, so the Swensons and Hooters were alive and well, but what about
-->food options?

Isn't the Furr's Cafeteria still open?

Serious Pig

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Apr 25, 2002, 11:48:09 AM4/25/02
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Yeah, I forgot that one. That was alive and kicking. Some
of their customers looked to be on their last leg though.

-sw

kate

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Apr 25, 2002, 1:19:37 PM4/25/02
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Serious Pig <steve...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> David RL Gartner wrote:
> >
> > "Lawrence Person" <lawre...@hiho.com> wrote:
> > > Has anyone else noticed that the Northcross Mall food court seems to be
> > > gone?
> >

> > several months ago i read that they were closing the ice rink and that the
> > mall was to be converted into office space. could this be why it looks so
> > deserted?
>
> That mall has always been dead. The only thng worthwhile is the Oshmans.

Brrrrszzzzzzt! Wrong!

Gamefellas! They rule, and last time I checked are actually doing quite
well, considering the crazy turbulence of the surroundings. They have two
stores at Northcross - one specifically for games and one for movie (VHS &
DVD) sales and trades.

And dude, you have obviously never been to Pipe World! That place is nuts.
It has great cigars and smoking accessories in addition to a dizzying
array of wacked out collectible figurines. (Can you say, "cognitive
dissonance"? <g>)

That Guitar Center seems busy whenever I go, and I believe the National
Comedy Theater is doing okay, too. And for some reason, everytime I am in
there (often, i have a teenager who loves Gamefellas), that wacky
"Recording Studio of America" has clients you can hear clear across the
mall. Also, I recall that when we (Chronicle - work) called Chaparral Ice
to find out why they were leaving (back when they had won yet another
"Best of" for Best Skating), they said that they actually didn't want to
leave and that they had been doing okay there.

IMHO, the mall management can't see the forest for the trees. Northcross
was the last of the human-sized, neighborhood malls (ala Westgate, Dobie).
Maybe acknowledging the neighborhood (many elderly folks and established
Austin families) and marketing to serve them could have been a viable mall
formula that might have turned profit, but that never seemed to be an
option. Supposedly, the brilliant idea behind the renovation is
office/conference space shared with retail. Whatever. Another silly little
bit of Austin coziness gone, which makes me sad, because as I said, I
spend lots of time there (and used to spend lots of money - Chelo Kebab! )
due to my kid's love of Gamefellas.

sad to see Northcross fed to the wolves,
kate

Scott Kurland

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Apr 25, 2002, 5:22:59 PM4/25/02
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> Scruffy's Convenience Store/Lunch Counter on 6th street.
> Best Gyro left in town, even better than Ted's. I had
> another one for lunch today - awesome.

Thanks, man; good to know. Address?


>
> OBFoodCourts; they generally suck anyway. Take Highland Mall
> for example - Best thing going there is the Cozzolis with the
> potato place coming in second. Throw the rest of them away;
> not good food or value.

I liked Teriyaki Temple a lot, so it's closed for remodeling. Sigh. Big
plate of spicy beef and/or chicken teriyaki, hold the mushrooms and veggies,
a big pink lemonade, maybe a couple of Godiva honey roasted almond truffles
for dessert... mmm.


Serious Pig

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Apr 25, 2002, 6:21:45 PM4/25/02
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Scott Kurland wrote in message ...

>> Scruffy's Convenience Store/Lunch Counter on 6th street.
>> Best Gyro left in town, even better than Ted's. I had
>> another one for lunch today - awesome.
>
>Thanks, man; good to know. Address?

It's between Brazos and San Jacinto, on the south side of the road.
I haven't been on 6th street for a while, but it seems those bars
are continously rotating tennants. I didn't relize there was a Hard
Rock Cafe there next to BW3 until yesterday (OK, OK, I had $.50
legs (on Wednesdays) as an appetizer to that Gyro ;-) Jamaican
Jerk Sauce Rules.

Scruffy's lunch/dinner offerings shut down for a breif period in the
early afternoon, but start up again around dinner. Don't let the
'decor' turn you off - it's basically a convenience store; sometimes
a shady character or two lurking about inside or out, but I know
the mailman eats thee and seeing people in business attire is
pretty common, too.

-sw


David RL Gartner

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Apr 25, 2002, 7:05:48 PM4/25/02
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"Serious Pig" <steve...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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<snip>

> I know
> the mailman eats thee

wow. does he eat you, too? or just others?

david


Lawrence Person

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Apr 25, 2002, 7:42:41 PM4/25/02
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In article <m8rfcusecavi4hql8...@4ax.com>, Jed <ghi...@aol.com>
wrote:

BEEEP! I'm sorry, you don't win the microwave.

In at least one of those skits, I remember someone talking about how business at
"Puppyland" was so slow that all the dogs were on "Cycle 3" dogfood (i.e., they
were no longer puppies).

Richard Jones

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The actual mall is closing down to be converted to office space, as someone
already mentioned. However, the Oshmans and the Hooter's are supposedly
going to remain. I'm sure those will be big incentives to move your office
to that location.

rj


Dirty Monk

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May 7, 2002, 11:30:07 PM5/7/02
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The Austin Knights of the National Indoor football League (wanabee
Arena Footbal) practice where the skating rink used to be on
weeknights from 7-9PM.

So at least someone's using the old rink space. At least until the
season is over or the Knights follow the Northcross Mall into
oblivion.

On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 04:11:47 GMT, Lawrence Person
<lawre...@hiho.com> wrote:

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