Katz's never kloses?

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Logan Shaw

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Nov 29, 2001, 6:04:51 PM11/29/01
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Anyone see the front page of the Statesman today?

The headline was something about a dispute between Marc Katz and Barry
Katz. I don't take the statesman and haven't had time to pick up a
copy, so can anyone fill me (and the rest of the newsgroup) in on
what's going on?

- Logan
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we must first lose hope in everything that deceives."

Georges Bernanos

Logan Shaw

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Nov 29, 2001, 6:15:13 PM11/29/01
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In article <9u6euj$5q$1...@starbuck.cs.utexas.edu>,

Logan Shaw <lo...@cs.utexas.edu> wrote:
>Anyone see the front page of the Statesman today?
>
>The headline was something about a dispute between Marc Katz and Barry
>Katz.

I didn't know you could actually get the text of Stateman
articles on-line, but I just found out otherwise. It's at
http://www.austin360.com/statesman/editions/thursday/news_2.html .

Judging from on the URL, the article may not be around forever.

The jist of it is that Barry Katz owns 49% of Katz's Austin location
and Marc Katz owns 51%. Apparently Barry decided to open a Houston
location by himself recently, and but he had the Austin location give
the new Houston location a $1 million loan at no interest for 20 years,
and also he pays himself $414,000 annual salary. No wonder that prices
at Katz's are so high!

Dewitt

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Nov 29, 2001, 6:17:19 PM11/29/01
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Well first, it really says something about the quality of the Austin
American-Spaceman when a Katz's dispute is the front page headline.
It reminds me of the headline several years back that said, "Sod
Shortage hits Austin".

That said, the article is available at
http://www.austin360.com/statesman/editions/thursday/news_2.html

"Borrowed" from the article:

"I can't help it, I gotta tell ya -- the Katz family feud has spilled
out of their famous restaurant and into court.

Katz's Deli & Bar owner Marc Katz has asked a judge to order the Sixth
Street eatery sold because Katz and his son can't resolve a years-long
dispute over how to run the family business.

In his lawsuit, Katz, 54, accuses 30-year-old Barry Katz of funneling
money from the New York-style deli to a second Katz's Deli in Houston
that the younger Katz owns. Barry Katz was given a 49 percent
ownership stake in the Austin restaurant and runs the business for his
father, who is semi-retired but owns 51 percent. "

deg

David RL Gartner

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Nov 29, 2001, 6:59:21 PM11/29/01
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"Logan Shaw" <lo...@cs.utexas.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <9u6euj$5q$1...@starbuck.cs.utexas.edu>,
> Logan Shaw <lo...@cs.utexas.edu> wrote:
> >Anyone see the front page of the Statesman today?
> >
> >The headline was something about a dispute between Marc Katz and Barry
> >Katz.
>
> I didn't know you could actually get the text of Stateman
> articles on-line, but I just found out otherwise. It's at
> http://www.austin360.com/statesman/editions/thursday/news_2.html .
<snip>

from the article:
"If the judge orders the restaurant sold, Marc Katz said he hopes to find a
buyer who would run the business as-is -- under the same name and with Marc
Katz still playing a role in it."

actually, *I'd* like to see someone run the business a little better. the
food quality has, IMO, been on the decline over the last 10 years or so, as
the food prices have steadily increased. last time i got french fries
there, they were terrible. the grilled muenster cheese sandwich (which i
tired for the first time in 1990), is nothing like it used to be. i no
longer have any interest in eating at Katz's deli, and that's sad to say.
it used to be one of my favourite restaurants.

david


Therel Moore

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Nov 29, 2001, 7:38:45 PM11/29/01
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lo...@cs.utexas.edu (Logan Shaw) wrote:


>The jist of it is that Barry Katz owns 49% of Katz's Austin location
>and Marc Katz owns 51%. Apparently Barry decided to open a Houston
>location by himself recently, and but he had the Austin location give
>the new Houston location a $1 million loan at no interest for 20 years,
>and also he pays himself $414,000 annual salary. No wonder that prices
>at Katz's are so high!

So are there any other 6th street enterprises that earn $400,000
yearly in profits? It was my understanding that most profits are from
liquor sales but this seems a bit much. A 1 million dollar loan is
not much when your salary is 400K/yr unless your lifestyle is really
high maintenance.

Intriqued
Therel Moore
Austin TX

Barry

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Nov 30, 2001, 5:55:59 AM11/30/01
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"I CAN'T HELP IT, I GOTTA TELL YA......... KATZ'S NEVER CLOSES"


"Dewitt" <dew...@texas.net> wrote in message
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Dusty Rhodes

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Nov 30, 2001, 8:07:14 PM11/30/01
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"Logan Shaw" <lo...@cs.utexas.edu> wrote in message
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<snip>

> and also he (Barry Katz) pays himself $414,000 annual salary.


> No wonder that prices at Katz's are so high!

I could hardly believe my eyes when I saw this. $414,000/yr for managing a
freaking deli PLUS PROFIT? Ludicrous.

Cheers,

Dusty


MDM

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Nov 30, 2001, 11:33:13 PM11/30/01
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Too hell with those greedy a-holes. I like the food too but come on...I'll
make my own damn reuben.


Stephen

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Dec 1, 2001, 8:39:10 AM12/1/01
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Dusty Rhodes wrote:

Yeah. That's the combined incomes of all the readership of a.f ! Sonny boy
pays himself $414,000/yr. and Pappa lives off somewhere in happy retirement
(surely NOT in a one-bedroom-shack) ... these guys have more than 99% of the
rest of the world and they're *still* not happy? They *still* have to have
something to fight about?

S.

Logan Shaw

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Dec 2, 2001, 12:55:07 AM12/2/01
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In article <3C08DD16...@austin.rr.com>,

Stephen <ssa...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>(surely NOT in a one-bedroom-shack) ... these guys have more than 99% of the
>rest of the world and they're *still* not happy? They *still* have to have
>something to fight about?

A friend of mine, when I told him the story, said, "Well, that's what
happens when you send your son off to college to get a business degree."

Actually, katzsneverkloses.com says Barry has a Hotel and Restaurant
Management degree, but I still think it's funny.

To be fair, the business used to also include Top of the Marc, so until
recently, the $414,000 salary was a little closer to justified.

The thing that scares me about $414,000 is that that's over $47 an
hour, 24x7 all year. The salary *alone* almost accounts for the high
prices. But hey, I guess they're still in business, aren't they? So
maybe it's just good business.

Dusty Rhodes

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Dec 2, 2001, 1:26:09 AM12/2/01
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"Logan Shaw" <lo...@cs.utexas.edu> wrote in message
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> The thing that scares me about $414,000 is that that's over $47 an
> hour, 24x7 all year. The salary *alone* almost accounts for the high
> prices. But hey, I guess they're still in business, aren't they? So
> maybe it's just good business.

Think of it this way. The same money buys 8-10 trained chefs.

Cheers,

Dusty


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