Thanks
I saw this at either a Diamond Shamrock or RaceTrac recently.
Why not call the brewer and find out who distributing it where in Austin.
PEARL BREWING CO 312 PEARL PKY SAN ANTONIO TX 78215-1246 210-226-0231
-sw
Thanks
jojo wrote:
>
> Harry's on the Loop. Willow City, Texas.
>
> Horseshoes, too.
>
> jojo
Harry's on the Loop. Willow City, Texas.
Horseshoes, too.
jojo
No, I don't have a craving for Shiner - just a curiosity why they are so
hard to find.
Yes, I am too lazy to contact the brewery.
Lance
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"Whit" <whit@Texas_NO_POTTED_MEAT.com> wrote in message
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Huh? Shiner is all over the place. Sure you're not thinking of Celis?
-sw
there was a Lone Star Bock I liked... but haven't seen for ages.
not that I'd buy a beer from those dang furriners, you understand
(who bought out every one of them good-old Texas breweries, who
with their 99cents specials "unfairly" competed with the national
chains, forcing them to cough up the money for an offer that they
simply could not refuse... that's when I decided to never buy
an American brewed beer again. I changed my mind later, of course,
when the micro-breweries were "invented" -- but I still resent the
sell-out and shut-down of Celis, wonder what *REALLY* happened...)
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The Spoetzl Brewery does not offer the plain Shiner beer any more.
They do have Shiner Blonde though, it is basically the same thing. I
think it was just a marketing decision.
Fred...
> Huh? Shiner is all over the place. Sure you're not thinking of Celis?
I'm thinking of Shiner - not Shiner Bock - just Shiner. Also not Shiner
Blonde, Summer Stock, Winter Ale, or Hefeweizen. Just plain old Shiner from
the good old days.
Sounds like it may have been replaced by or renamed to Shiner Blonde.
Lance
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of them seemed to come from Texas."
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"Steve Wertz" <swe...@texas.net> wrote in message
news:3D877EB1...@texas.net...
Uhhh . . . is that what they labeled as "Shiner Premium"? I don't
recall ever seeing just a plain old "Shiner". I wasn't exactly looking,
but I've had my share of "Premiums" in my day. (It wasn't exactly a
beer worthy of that moniker, but it wasn't bad.)
jim andrews
he might be thinking of "what used to be" (before your time)
Shiner, Lone Star, Pearl, others... were local(ly owned) breweries founded in
the German tradition: like everywhere else Germans (im)migrated, you brought
along a baker, a butcher, a blacksmith and a brewer to start a settlement.
In fact during the first decades of Texas independence, San Antonio, for all
practical purposes, was a German town, the biggest among quite a few others
in central Texas... all, of course, with their own local brewery (remember,
no ice, no refridgeration, slow transport --> quick spoilage!)
when I got here (which was 'as soon as I could' :) the beer prices in Texas
were kept 'reasonable' by the prices of Texas-brewed six-packs and kegs -- the
national chains didn't like that much as that prevented them from fleezing
Texans the way they wanted to, as we'd order our party kegs from Shiner, Lone
Star or Pearl and showed them the bird...
what happened next was predictable: buy-out offers that couldn't be refused
(don't ask me if it was 'just money' or what it was, I don't honestly know).
Not long afterwards, "things" changed: brands were discontinued, flavors
changed, prices went up-up-and-up... today American brewed dish-water is
sold at practically the same price as decent beer, micro-brewed or imported.
I'm under the impression, n fact, they are now buying up micro-breweries...
*AND* selling their own "fake" micro-brews (i.e. they name and label their
stuff in a way that tempts into buying it under the assumption that it is a
new micro-brew...)
...Shiner, Lone Star, Pearl... have gone the way of the buffalo...
...but there always were better beers, it was only the combination of price
and "local" that made them special...
The original Shiner was(like someone said) Shiner PremiumIn, It tasted
different than the current Blonde.
My main comment is Shiner used to be the beer of choice for German farmers
(and broke college students like me)and was pretty inexpensive, It is really
incredible that Shiner is now sold as a fairly costly premium beer.
Times change...........
Jim
In article <c6Ih9.261078$eK6.7...@twister.austin.rr.com>,
lhi...@attglobal.net says...
> My main comment is Shiner used to be the beer of choice for German farmers
> (and broke college students like me)and was pretty inexpensive, It is really
> incredible that Shiner is now sold as a fairly costly premium beer.
I went to two stores a few weeks ago and they each wanted $6-6.50 for
a sixer of cans. I left without any Shiner.
-sw
Pretty simple....Mr. Celis was not the best of businessmen.
Round here you can get the twelve pack bottles for under $10.00 on
sale. Sam's has it at an even better price (I don't know what that
price is as my wife is the one in our family who makes the trek to
Sam's!:~)
--
John Willis
He sold it to Miller, probably making a pretty penny, then Miller went and
shut it down since it wasn't making enough profit. Celis considered buying
it back I remember hearing, but Miller said no. The brewery still stands
over there near Crosspark, lonely and deserted - what a waste of good beer.
-sw
Steve...you may want to recheck the newspaper archives on the story from a
couple of years ago. I'm afraid the rapid over-expansion of the company,
AFAIK forced the sale to Miller. Really a sad situation.
I used to enjoy the picture-grams or whatever you call 'em, on the inside of
the bottle caps.
--
Catbird
"Oh-oh, her schizo is about to phrenia" - Bob Hope
"fritz"
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Birdy(Parker), Brazil(Gilliam),and Brewster McCloud(Altman)
Speaking of old cheap beer, when I was a kid my dad always bought
Buckhorn, 6 pack bottles .99¢. I remember he got ticked when it went up
to $1.25 :o)
Rebus's
A few beers had that. Lucky beer (available only in cases) was one.
Mickey's Big Mouth used to do it, but now thet have these stupid puns
instead.
-sw
>I think LoneStar still does this.
>
>Speaking of old cheap beer, when I was a kid my dad always bought
>Buckhorn, 6 pack bottles .99ข. I remember he got ticked when it went up
>to $1.25 :o)
>
Whit,
I saw Pearl Light in cans at HEB yesterday! My Dad used to buy cases
of Texas Pride, it was made by Pearl. It was Pearl's cheap beer 8-0
Fred...
what d'ya expect? a rose garden ?!?
<snicker>...
> A few beers had that. Lucky beer (available only in cases) was one.
> Mickey's Big Mouth used to do it, but now thet have these stupid puns
> instead.
Ack. Puns? No rebus? That was the only reason to buy Mickey's.
Now what to do half-buzzed, shopping for beer and needing a word
puzzle. A loss, indeed.
Jen
Shiner, while owned by Gambrinus (Lone Star, Pearl, etc), still brews their
own. The rest of Gambrinus' labels are contract brewed in FW by Miller.
-Hound
IMHO, just because something is local/old/different doesn't make it worth
supporting/preserving/keeping. If they produce an inferior product/service,
they should go out of business. My $0.02.
--
Victor M. Martinez | The University of Texas at Austin
mar...@che.utexas.edu | Department of Chemical Engineering
http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv | Austin, TX 78712
If we knew what we were doing it would not be called research, would it?
Then local money goes to out of state/city/county companies. Hey if you don't
want to buy local thats cool . You don't have to understand why.Sometimes local
isn't better or cheaper.Shiner gave kegs to many benefits and similar events. I
liked buying shiner even though there were better beers because it tastes like
Austin to me. Its what they served at a lot of local poolhalls,clubs , beer
gardens and what we bought for keg parties in college.If you saved your bottles
long enough you could trade them all in and get a couple six packs. Take your
two cents to costco .
..or improved (to get over their teething problems?!?)
Victor, you did ignore the important "combination" aspect of
BOTH price and being local..
I suspect that we see the matter very much alike, in any case.
--
Frank Mancuso
Saint Arnold Brewing Company
Austin/San Antonio Office
512-916-4565 v/fx
mailto:fr...@saintarnold.com
http://www.saintarnold.com
Motorblade <motor...@aol.comnohype> wrote:
>Then local money goes to out of state/city/county companies. Hey if you don't
Their employees live here, right? The company pays taxes here, right?
>long enough you could trade them all in and get a couple six packs. Take your
>two cents to costco .
Please refrain from telling me what to do with my money. That is my choice,
not yours.
FWIW, I do support local businesses that provide me with good products and
services. I will not, however, give money to a business *just* because it's
local.
thanks for the link. interesting. to quote a little from it:
...acquired from Miller the brewing equipment of the Celis Brewery and has
relocated and installed them at MBC.s facilities in Webberville, Michigan.
<sigh> not "local" anymore, so do WE care anymore?
I'm not sure I will...
MBC will now add the Celis brand to the 12 existing MBC brands which it brews
at its Webberville brewery. MBC also operates a brewpub at the site.
well, maybe we'll get to see their whole line "on special" at CM.
(if not, someone ought to suggest it to them.. :)
MBC now controls the rights to brew the highly-acclaimed line of Celis beers,
originally formulated by a renowned Belgian brewing industry leader, Pierre
Celis. MBC will IMMEDIATELY begin brewing authentic Belgian-styled beers in
Michigan according to the recipes originally developed at Celis Brewery.
the press release was dated July 31, so I wonder what their meaning
of "immediately" is... is it being sold already? hmmm...
(interested parties wanna know... ;-)
With the expansion, Michigan Brewing Company's capacity increases immediately
from 5,000 to 24,000 barrels annually
(-: I wonder if it wouldn't have been better/cheaper to simply
keep making the beer here where the equipment was... :-)
Celis was particularly well known for reviving the Belgian Wit style of beer
as .Celis White.. Witbier is an unfiltered ale- style beer brewed with wheat
as well as barley, .seasoned. with coriander and curacao orange peel. Celis
White is an exceptionally refreshing, pale-yellow colored, flavorful beer with
a slight sweetness. The recipe for Celis White is derived from a traditional
Belgian recipe which dates back to 1453.
interesting. but White wasn't necessarily my favorite in the Celis
line, nor anywhere near their best-seller, I'd bet (but what do I know)
so one wonders why they'd start with that...?
Mason credited Miller Brewing Company with assisting Michigan Brewing Company
in completing the acquisition and expanding its line of craft-brewed specialty
beers. "Miller is... especially supportive of the role that craft brewers play
in expanding the availability of and market for specialty beers.
Their faith in Michigan BC's ability to build upon the goodwill and market
acceptance previously enjoyed by the Celis brands made this transaction
possible, and we are very appreciative of that support..
sounds as if the big bad wolf owns a stake in this... (and will handle
their marketing and delivery, maybe? I could see where the big guys
simply keep control over the distribution channels the little guys need
to use to, economically, reach a larger (than strictly local) market,
thus able to control them. Hmmm....
...oh, look, at http://www.michiganbrewing.com/mbc.asp we're told:
Nestled amidst France, Germany, the Netherlands, and the North Sea, Belgium has
had many cultural influences throughout history. And this Belgian-style beer
wholly reflects its homeland's eclectic nature and brewing heritage. Celis
Pale Bock has a rich, amber color and is brewed with a blend of caramel malts
from the Great Plains and Willamette, Saaz and Cascade hops. This combination
of hops adds balance and gives Celis Pale Bock a warm, rich flavor that lingers.
It's an excellent complement to heartier fare such as barbecue, roasted chicken,
smoked ham, venison or Southwestern food.
The first keg of MBC's Celis Pale Bock will be tapped at Oktoberfest on Sept 27
they sure know to talk you into being thirsty (and wanting to be there)
I'm *DEFINITELY* going to keep my eyes open to see if they "get here"
(i.e. Central Market special offeres to introduce them here)
...and their latest press release (of Sept 1) says:
unique is exactly the word to describe the latest product from Michigan BC.
The new beer is called Renaissance Brand Spelt Pale Ale. It's packaged in 12
ounce brown plastic bottles (looking similar to glass containers but lighter),
unbreakable, resealable, suitable for occasions where glass is prohibited...
like pool-side, beaches, picnics, golf courses, and even dance floors.
yes! let's revive the good old custome and slurping on a beer while
doing the slow waltz... <grin>
The bottles are packaged in beautifully designed light proof 4-packs depicting
a colorful illustration of medieval knights on horseback. One informative panel
is dedicated in praise of Europe.s ancient grain. The suggested retail price
for the four pack is $6.99.
well, those horses aren't going to help me much over the initial price
shock... which is likely to linger!
hey, that MBC outfit does a good web-site. I *WILL* make a point of
asking for them at CM...
heh! Note the changing "famous quotes" at the top of their web-pages..
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'T was a woman who drove me to drink, and I never had the courtesy
to thank her for it. ---W.C.Fields
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Sir, if you were my husband, I would poison your drink.
--Lady Astor to Winston Churchill
Madam, if you were my wife, I would drink it. --His Reply
It was in reference to you "just my 2 cents" ending NOT your actual money
victor. Of course that is your choice.
>FWIW, I do support local businesses that provide me with good products and
>services. I will not, however, give money to a business *just* because it's
>local.
>
I tried to explain that shiner supported many bands and benefits with FREE beer
so you then do them a good turn by buying their beer. It is not JUST because
they are local.
Suppose your neighbor gave bread to your school or church as a donation .
Wouldn't it be nice to buy his bread for at home even if you liked peppridge
farms better. perhaps you can understand my point now even if you don't have
that relationship with this beer company.
Abso-frickin-lutey.
I do love Live Oak and have had many a pint from one of their donated
kegs....
$4.49(+tax) for a twelver of cans at Hancock HEB.
For that price I'd expect some rebus's.
-sw
puzzles and all
I was in the north (183) catfish parlor the other day and they had
BOTTLES!! PEARL!!!! PICTOGRAMS!!!!
it was wonderful... Not sure where they got them. The dude at the bar
was pretty excited about it... Sounds like production is re-starting
from Ft. Worth or some equally godawlful brewery... Remember the San
Anton' Pearl experience???
classic..
We are having a promotion this month and next, I'll post that in a separate
posting.
--- David K.
"Charles Henry" <cha...@io.com> wrote in message
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I'm sorry, but anything related to *Coors* might as well
be poison ...(as far as I am concerned)...
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Never ask a man if he's from Texas.
If he is, he'll tell you on his own.
If he ain't, no need to embarrass him.
Agreed. ;-)
Now to generalize a little....
Sigh. Thank you David!
T
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