Yellow lines on roads

[Adrian Biankin]

When did Australia stop using Yellow thermoplastic paints on main roads? Was the change for the price of yellow thermoplastic paint?

The time where used white and yellow for overtaking/lane separation was pretty cool. 

eg: Link

[Nihat]

Not sure but they brought back the yellow lines for a part of the Northern Connector in Adelaide as the white paint on concrete was a bit hard to see which i thought was interesting.

https://www.dit.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0008/844046/Notification_of_works_Northen_Connector_yellow_Line_Marking_2021.pdf 

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[Adrian Biankin]

Very interesting...

Yellow markings on N-S Mwy - link

White with black background - link

White with black on top - link

[Adrian Biankin]

I went over the Punt Bridge on the Central Coast Hwy today and noticed that the white double lines were deteriorating and showing the yellow lines. I thought this was weird as the pavement on the bridge was resurfaced sometime in the 2000s.

https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.4381311,151.3593302,3a,19.9y,214.24h,72.68t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1szMwthcV5F6B278rSlG1npA!2e0!5s20201001T000000!7i16384!8i8192

[Adrian Biankin]

Also, are there any Yellow line remnants?

Some yellow lines at Kariong Lookout (Old Pacific Hwy Alignment, site of first-ever climbing lane)

https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.4336367,151.3065351,3a,75y,272.7h,68.05t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sufOGEi2w0y0JJwQX-DC9iQ!2e0!5s20201001T000000!7i16384!8i8192

[Vincent]

Not sure if you got a direct answer to this Adrian, but we discussed this topic in 2011. The conversation coincided with the same question being asked in the SMH's Column 8: https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/column-8-20110520-1ewmq.html#ixzz1NGXXfigR

To paraphrase, local lore is that yellow lines started to be phased out in 1988 due to the prohibitive cost of cleaning out yellow paint drums if they needed to be filled with white paint. How true is it? Anyone's guess, but late 80s makes sense if you look at roads with yellow lines now.

Here's the original topic on Aussie Highways: https://groups.google.com/g/aussie-highways/c/I0KBlJ-6-Tc/m/pPAIYx1WFTkJ

Cheers,

Vincent

[Kay Blythman]

There are some remnants up in Darwin on the Main Street, Cavenagh St: https://www.google.com/maps/@-12.4632101,130.8437842,389m/data=!3m1!1e3 (drag the time slider back to 2017)

There's also a marking that says "ONLY" in one of the turn lanes up the street too, not sure if this is still standard in NT though.

[Sam L]

I'm really not sure what the deal is with the yellow centrelines on Cavenagh Street. Better link here: https://goo.gl/maps/ip7E2K6Nsj2fd6P86

I have never seen anything similar elsewhere in the NT, and haven't come across any old yellow lines on abandoned/bypassed bits of road either.

Perhaps it was a City of Darwin oddity - they are responsible for the "ONLY" markings which are on the right turn pockets at the signals along Knuckey Street, and also on Bennett Street, for some strange reason.

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[Musa Hodzic]

I'm going to the US tomorrow for two weeks. Yellow lines and interstate shields heaven 😊🥰

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[Paul Rands]

Awesome, have a tops time

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[Adrian Biankin]

There’s a video that Roads NSW posted in 2018 showing that they marked the Clarence River bridge with yellow paint on the Pacific Hwy at Harwood. https://youtu.be/WpaZ51PlQZE

[Adrian Biankin]

I investigated further and found out this was a trial for road working zones. Looks to be for alignments that would be re-aligned somewhere else. 

https://www.google.com/maps/@-29.4440023,153.2344782,3a,19.2y,33.67h,87.38t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sUyNcNonTMfvQwflvRiJnxw!2e0!5s20170801T000000!7i13312!8i6656

[Musa Hodzic]

Thanks guys.  I'm really enjoying it here 😊😎

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[Dan Burt]

One interesting (and fairly recent example) of the use of a yellow centreline is on Crescent Rd, Hawthorn East, VIC: https://www.google.com/maps/@-37.8469067,145.0458079,3a,75y,12.18h,82.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sy_jCoLR9W6GrFc1QZsBCaQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

[Vincent]

This is probably as good a place as any to tell you all that I relocated to the United States the week before last, based out of Washington DC for the next 3 years.

I haven't taken too many road-related photographs yet, but I have attached a couple of examples of yellow centre lines where I've found them. Not as abundant in the middle of the city!

Cheers,

Vincent.

[Paul R]

Congrats mate.

DC is a wonderful city. I can't wait to go back there  one day for another visit. When I was there in 09, I found quite a few old signals about the place, I'd imagine they're all gone by now though.

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[Vincent Muller]

Thanks Paul! Apologies, my last message seems a bit terse. I kept getting a notification from Google Groups that the message was too long, but I think that might have been because my attachments were initially too large.

I'm based at an international organisation (or "organization" in the local parlance) on assignment in my field of speciality, which is records management. I've been here for about a week and a half now and very much enjoying being a tourist in my own city, but still in the process of trying to find permanent living arrangements and getting all my admin taken care of.

Yesterday I took a trip out to Arlington cemetery, which borders the Capital Beltway. I spotted a couple of nice Freeway shields through the hedges - no pictures unfortunately, but I'll have plenty of opportunity to do that in time to come.

From what I've seen, all the signals here have been replaced with LEDs. The Americans do have a penchant for 3M traffic signals and it's always interesting to see them in action. I've seen a couple of 3M pedestrian signals which has been the bigger surprise - not sure if they've been installed deliberately or if they're a historic curiosity leftover?

Cheers,

Vincent.

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[Paul R]

All good! Hopefully your settling in well.

I've not been to the cemetery, but stayed in Arlington on my 2009 visit before shifting to just off Pennsylvania Av to extend my time there. It was just a few days, and used public transport for everything (damn it's good!) but took hundreds of photos of all the touristy things but loads of road related stuff too. When I was there, most of the old signals had been retrofitted with LEDs and most pedestrian signals had been modernised but there was still plenty of old incandescent signals that would pop up, curiously often in junctions that had already been retrofitted or updated. Also don't think I've noticed 3M pedestrian signals before, but saw several traffic lanterns instead.

I've still yet to edit and add the photos to Expressway from both the 07 and 09 trips to the US, but it will eventually happen I guess. A bit further delayed now thanks to needing to make the site mobile friendlier, given over 60% of my visitors are on mobile / handheld devices now.

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[Adrian Biankin]

I was incorrect about the Punt bridge pavement being resurfaced in the 2000s.

According to some birds-eye pics, the bridge and the approaches were repaved in the 1980s - https://portal.spatial.nsw.gov.au/download/historic/3371/3371_07_147.jp2.jpeg, then in the 1990s, the whole section was repaved again but didn't (for some reason) repave where the double lines are (here's what I mean - the Punt bridge), so they just painted it with white paint over the yellow. https://portal.spatial.nsw.gov.au/download/historic/4030/4030_12_179.jp2.jpeg

[Adrian Biankin]

Lane Cove River Bridge on A38 has some double yellow lines. Looks like the white paint has deteriorated over the course of a year (Nov 2020 - Nov 2021)

https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.79272,151.1570502,3a,75y,49.27h,68.46t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sQO21Ucg4YNgHz8QnfVWKoQ!2e0!5s20201001T000000!7i16384!8i8192

[Musa Hodzic]

Yes! That bridge gets the yellows exposed so quick :) so does the top of Campbelltown Rd between Denham Court Rd and the start of the hill towards Ingleburn.

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[Adrian Biankin]

I do see some yellow paint peeking out the sides of the white paint on Campbelltown Rd.

I still can't fathom why they stopped using Yellow paint for the double lines. I know they said it costs too much to empty out the paint from the line-marking truck, but they use yellow paint for Clearway lines.

[ed24f1]

Yellow lines have been exposed on Mowbray Rd (Chatswood) bridge over the rail line - will try and get a photo next time

[Adrian Biankin]

Looks like it started to back in 2008/2009 

https://goo.gl/maps/jJ2a8mjH2XnEbWe56 

[Johnny Telcher]

WOW! I crossed that bridge about a week ago and I have overlooked them!

[Petarkco]

Underwood Rd has peeled off in the past couple of years:

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Peats Ridge Road too:

[Adrian Biankin]

George Downes Dr near the Springs Rd intersection at Kulnura has some yellow lines showing

https://goo.gl/maps/dbR5Zn83EVtdftsUA

[Musa Hodzic]

This is from my trip to the USA, this is what we could've had haha... attached. 

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[Musa Hodzic]

Saw today. Yellows paid over whites. So cool 😎 

[Vincent Muller]

Whoa, awesome! Where's this, New Zealand?

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[Caden Blythman]

Looks like NSW, there’s a white-on-red NO STOPPING sign in the background, and in the parking garage you can see the back of a Camry with black-on-yellow NSW plates.

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[Vincent Muller]

Right you are, looks like it's around here in Warwick Farm: https://goo.gl/maps/jhBgPPYHsxpw53qP7

I wonder what the story is here? Private road operated by the hospital?

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[Caden Blythman]

Good find on the location. Perhaps they’re trialling the new yellow lines for RMS before they rollout across the state?? 👀

…one can dream.

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[Adrian Biankin]

It'll then be white double-line remnants, instead of yellow... It would be nice if they did implement yellow lines back in.

[li...@paulrands.com]

Well that's odd, what is the location?

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[Adrian Biankin]

Total Tools at Castle Hill has some nice double Yellow lines on their driveway.... Doesn't really count :l

https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.7290967,150.9764239,3a,75y,314.55h,87.76t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sxujPUW7mmjjXXVnGHdBHxg!2e0!5s20201001T000000!7i16384!8i8192

[Caden Blythman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEIpW0OwQXU

This short film from the 1950s has quite a number of shots where the double lines (and even some of the single lines) appear to be yellow. Also just a cool video on its own too.

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[Paul Rands]

Ooh that's a good video that one. I need to do some screen shots out of it one day and add several signs from it to the sign drawings on my web site.

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[kjh gfh]

Some yellow line remnants, mostly from 2010. 
Dirty Creek Rd - Google Maps

Burrawan Forest Dr - Google Maps

70 Foxs Rd - Google Maps

Old Coast Rd - Google Maps

80 Scenic Dr - Google Maps

On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 9:55:16 PM UTC+10 abia...@gmail.com wrote:

Also, are there any Yellow line remnants?

Some yellow lines at Kariong Lookout (Old Pacific Hwy Alignment, site of first-ever climbing lane)

https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.4336367,151.3065351,3a,75y,272.7h,68.05t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sufOGEi2w0y0JJwQX-DC9iQ!2e0!5s20201001T000000!7i16384!8i8192

[Paul R]

Very nice finds. Hopefully someone can get there IRL to get some pix before they disappear

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[Musa Hodzic]

Nice! That first one is the best.

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[kjh gfh]

Some more I've found:

[Petarkco]

Mowbray Rd rail overpass in Chatswood

[Petarkco]

Goulding Rd in Ryde

[Petarkco]

Centennial Ave in Lane Cove

[Caden Blythman]

More like a parking lot, but the Pacifica Business Park in Kilsyth:

https://www.google.com/maps/@-37.8165247,145.3190294,3a,75y,205.5h,75.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUsh1-hDlWz1P32Kb1kMtIQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

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Centennial Ave in Lane Cove

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[#130km/hforthehume]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/F7QTs5EAit9CDsrs5 at Surry Hills is relatively recent with the light rail (CSELR) but is yellow paint nonetheless.

[Caden Blythman]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/mWFbSzLACR5dFjKM9 Since 2022 Park Street in South Melbourne has had yellow markings along a whole block (part of a bicycle infrastructure initiative, for some reason)

On 27 Mar 2024, at 10:45 pm, #130km/hforthehume <thenorthernt...@gmail.com> wrote:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/F7QTs5EAit9CDsrs5 at Surry Hills is relatively recent with the light rail (CSELR) but is yellow paint nonetheless.

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On Thursday, April 11, 2024 at 6:02:43 PM UTC+10 Caden Blythman wrote:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/mWFbSzLACR5dFjKM9 Since 2022 Park Street in South Melbourne has had yellow markings along a whole block (part of a bicycle infrastructure initiative, for some reason)

In the Park Street case, my understanding is that yellow linemarking was used to indicate that it was to be a temporary 'trial' installation.

Ross