Melbourne: Dingley Bypass - Route 87
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Brad Forbes
Mar 12, 2016, 12:43:19 AM3/12/16
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Hi,
Saw that the Dingley Bypass is now fully open, linking South Road Extension to Westall Road Extension. Anyone know why they picked 87 for a route number?
Pics can be found here: https://www.flickr.com/gp/77458441@N05/Bk6Bq1
Brad.
barbs
Mar 13, 2016, 6:23:53 AM3/13/16
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Looks good, now they need to convert the full length into a freeway lol (Im sure it will happen eventually)
Any word on the final section to link to the South Gippy freeway?
Any word on the final section to link to the South Gippy freeway?
Joshua Geoghegan
Mar 13, 2016, 7:27:55 PM3/13/16
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And they have been investigating extending the MP Fwy also.
Peter Freeman
Mar 14, 2016, 12:25:03 AM3/14/16
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The Labour government has committed to the eastern extension, but with no funding or timeline. A contract has just been awarded by VicRoads for consultants to develop the business case for extending Westall Road northwards to join the Monash Freeway near to the Ferntree Gully Road junction.
On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 9:23:53 PM UTC+11, barbs wrote:
Omegaville
Mar 14, 2016, 12:29:14 AM3/14/16
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Interesting "birthday present" from VicRoads...
Why MR87? Because it's part of the old Mornington Peninsula Fwy corridor. After 1970s cutbacks to plans, the corridor was retained from Warrigal Rd (opposite South Rd) to Springvale Rd (near Wells Rd). You can see this in Melway #10 (1977). And of the two sections of MP Fwy we saw built, one was signed at F87... the intention being to link them... but we saw F87 replaced with MR11 and then M7 (never used on signs) and M11... but historically, it's been route 87.
To be honest, I think it's a mistake. You guys might remember someone who used to pop up on Wikipedia, who claimed for a long time that the Dandenong Bypass would be signed as MR86. I'm inclined to believe that it was going to be, but scrapped due to VicRoads uncertainty over what would get built and what wouldn't. Well, consider this: as an east-west route, it should have been signed with an even number, e.g. 86. MR49's declaration in 1999 put the spanner in the works for MR86 - when the Dandenong Bypass was completed from Westall Rd Ext to South Gippsland Hwy, it continued MR49.
As a E-W route, it would have made more sense to recycle an old number (MR64).
Another thing I wouldn't have done is move MR14 from Warrigal Rd and Kingston Rd onto the "Dingley Hwy". Not really a fan of losing a duplex where it just creates another.
Cheers
B.J.
Why MR87? Because it's part of the old Mornington Peninsula Fwy corridor. After 1970s cutbacks to plans, the corridor was retained from Warrigal Rd (opposite South Rd) to Springvale Rd (near Wells Rd). You can see this in Melway #10 (1977). And of the two sections of MP Fwy we saw built, one was signed at F87... the intention being to link them... but we saw F87 replaced with MR11 and then M7 (never used on signs) and M11... but historically, it's been route 87.
To be honest, I think it's a mistake. You guys might remember someone who used to pop up on Wikipedia, who claimed for a long time that the Dandenong Bypass would be signed as MR86. I'm inclined to believe that it was going to be, but scrapped due to VicRoads uncertainty over what would get built and what wouldn't. Well, consider this: as an east-west route, it should have been signed with an even number, e.g. 86. MR49's declaration in 1999 put the spanner in the works for MR86 - when the Dandenong Bypass was completed from Westall Rd Ext to South Gippsland Hwy, it continued MR49.
As a E-W route, it would have made more sense to recycle an old number (MR64).
Another thing I wouldn't have done is move MR14 from Warrigal Rd and Kingston Rd onto the "Dingley Hwy". Not really a fan of losing a duplex where it just creates another.
Cheers
B.J.
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Paul Rands
Mar 16, 2016, 8:09:15 AM3/16/16
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Great pix Brad.
Some of those shields look a bit weird with the incorrect fonts.
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