Sydney Northern Beaches Tunnel
Brendan Terrett
North Shore MP announces $3 billion northern beaches tunnel to solve travel woes
THE NSW State Government has reportedly given the green light to build the $3 billion northern beaches tunnel that bypasses the Spit Bridge bottleneck.
Outgoing Health Minister and member for North Shore Jillian Skinner announced the long awaited road infrastructure in her final newsletter before she resigned.
The newsletter claims a feasibility study has “proved its worth” and plans for the tunnel will be released within months.
“I’ve seen them and I can tell you they surpass even my wildest expectations with three lanes proposed each way including a dedicated bus lane,” the newsletter said.
The tunnel reportedly connects the Burnt Bridge Creek Deviation to the Warringah Freeway. It will bypass 21 traffic lights and is expected to only take five minutes.
Liberal party members, including Davidson MP Jonathan O’Dea and Federal members Tony Abbott and Jason Falinski have been putting pressure on newly appointed Premier Gladys Berijiklian to allocate funds and a timeline to the long awaited project.
It is believed Ms Berijiklian planned to make this announcement in the upcoming by-elections for Manly and North Shore.
DrazPhlaz
Brendan Terrett
It sounds great but it will be the ugliest piece of road in the entire world. I cant understand how theyll manage to blend it into the Warringah Freeway without creating a shocking bottleneck at the Harbour Bridge
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RIP Cammeray Golf Course. This tunnel will extend from the Warringah Freeway to the Burnt Bridge Creek Deviation.This tunnel will be steeper than the M5 East if it really will be a tunnel for its entire length. I suspect they'll need to have at least a bridge over Middle Harbour somewhere sticking out between the ridges on the northern and southern sides.
North Shore MP announces $3 billion northern beaches tunnel to solve travel woes
Manly DailyFebruary 25, 2017 1:51pm
THE NSW State Government has reportedly given the green light to build the $3 billion northern beaches tunnel that bypasses the Spit Bridge bottleneck.
Outgoing Health Minister and member for North Shore Jillian Skinner announced the long awaited road infrastructure in her final newsletter before she resigned.
The newsletter claims a feasibility study has “proved its worth” and plans for the tunnel will be released within months.
Outgoing Health Minister and member for North Shore Jillian Skinner. Picture: (AAP Image/Dan Himbrechts)
“I’ve seen them and I can tell you they surpass even my wildest expectations with three lanes proposed each way including a dedicated bus lane,” the newsletter said.
The tunnel reportedly connects the Burnt Bridge Creek Deviation to the Warringah Freeway. It will bypass 21 traffic lights and is expected to only take five minutes.
Warringah MP Tony Abbott and Mackellar MP Jason Falinski. Picture: Virginia Young
Liberal party members, including Davidson MP Jonathan O’Dea and Federal members Tony Abbott and Jason Falinski have been putting pressure on newly appointed Premier Gladys Berijiklian to allocate funds and a timeline to the long awaited project.
It is believed Ms Berijiklian planned to make this announcement in the upcoming by-elections for Manly and North Shore.
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Brendan Terrett
Something needed to happen, and I hope they call it Warringah Fwy :)
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Cc:Sent:Fri, 3 Mar 2017 00:12:48 -0800 (PST)Subject:[Aussie Highways] Sydney Northern Beaches TunnelRIP Cammeray Golf Course. This tunnel will extend from the Warringah Freeway to the Burnt Bridge Creek Deviation.This tunnel will be steeper than the M5 East if it really will be a tunnel for its entire length. I suspect they'll need to have at least a bridge over Middle Harbour somewhere sticking out between the ridges on the northern and southern sides.North Shore MP announces $3 billion northern beaches tunnel to solve travel woes
Manly DailyFebruary 25, 2017 1:51pmTHE NSW State Government has reportedly given the green light to build the $3 billion northern beaches tunnel that bypasses the Spit Bridge bottleneck.
Outgoing Health Minister and member for North Shore Jillian Skinner announced the long awaited road infrastructure in her final newsletter before she resigned.
The newsletter claims a feasibility study has “proved its worth” and plans for the tunnel will be released within months.
Outgoing Health Minister and member for North Shore Jillian Skinner. Picture: (AAP Image/Dan Himbrechts)“I’ve seen them and I can tell you they surpass even my wildest expectations with three lanes proposed each way including a dedicated bus lane,” the newsletter said.
The tunnel reportedly connects the Burnt Bridge Creek Deviation to the Warringah Freeway. It will bypass 21 traffic lights and is expected to only take five minutes.
Warringah MP Tony Abbott and Mackellar MP Jason Falinski. Picture: Virginia YoungLiberal party members, including Davidson MP Jonathan O’Dea and Federal members Tony Abbott and Jason Falinski have been putting pressure on newly appointed Premier Gladys Berijiklian to allocate funds and a timeline to the long awaited project.
It is believed Ms Berijiklian planned to make this announcement in the upcoming by-elections for Manly and North Shore.
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davis
On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 4:58:45 PM UTC+11, Brendan Terrett wrote:
The project has officially been announced today. According to the maps, it looks like the alignment will be directly following the originally planned Warringah Freeway alignment near Sailors Bay Road to a duplicated Wakehurst Parkway, with a spur to the Burnt Bridge Creek Deviation. There's gonna be lots of work around the Gore Hill and Warringah Freeways to get it to fit in!
On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 10:17 PM, <li...@paulrands.com> wrote:
Something needed to happen, and I hope they call it Warringah Fwy :)
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Cc:Sent:Fri, 3 Mar 2017 00:12:48 -0800 (PST)Subject:[Aussie Highways] Sydney Northern Beaches TunnelRIP Cammeray Golf Course. This tunnel will extend from the Warringah Freeway to the Burnt Bridge Creek Deviation.This tunnel will be steeper than the M5 East if it really will be a tunnel for its entire length. I suspect they'll need to have at least a bridge over Middle Harbour somewhere sticking out between the ridges on the northern and southern sides.North Shore MP announces $3 billion northern beaches tunnel to solve travel woes
Manly DailyFebruary 25, 2017 1:51pmTHE NSW State Government has reportedly given the green light to build the $3 billion northern beaches tunnel that bypasses the Spit Bridge bottleneck.
Outgoing Health Minister and member for North Shore Jillian Skinner announced the long awaited road infrastructure in her final newsletter before she resigned.
The newsletter claims a feasibility study has “proved its worth” and plans for the tunnel will be released within months.
Outgoing Health Minister and member for North Shore Jillian Skinner. Picture: (AAP Image/Dan Himbrechts)“I’ve seen them and I can tell you they surpass even my wildest expectations with three lanes proposed each way including a dedicated bus lane,” the newsletter said.
The tunnel reportedly connects the Burnt Bridge Creek Deviation to the Warringah Freeway. It will bypass 21 traffic lights and is expected to only take five minutes.
Warringah MP Tony Abbott and Mackellar MP Jason Falinski. Picture: Virginia YoungLiberal party members, including Davidson MP Jonathan O’Dea and Federal members Tony Abbott and Jason Falinski have been putting pressure on newly appointed Premier Gladys Berijiklian to allocate funds and a timeline to the long awaited project.
It is believed Ms Berijiklian planned to make this announcement in the upcoming by-elections for Manly and North Shore.
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DrazPhlaz
Also, the routes will be a disaster. M1 will be lost in the clusterfuck of M8, M2, M10(?) etc
Peter Freeman
On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 9:49:12 PM UTC+11, DrazPhlaz wrote:
The only way this could work is if they demolish the existing warringah freeway and start completely from scratch, with a new state of the art melbourne style spaghetti interchange linking the bridge, old harbour tunnel, west harbour tunnel, north sydney, military road and the new tunnel all together. Fun!!1Also, the routes will be a disaster. M1 will be lost in the clusterfuck of M8, M2, M10(?) etc
DrazPhlaz
Peter Freeman
On Sunday, March 26, 2017 at 6:51:59 AM UTC+11, DrazPhlaz wrote:
Peter Freeman
Brendan Terrett
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DrazPhlaz
There aren't many? From what I can see, there are ten major interchanges where two or more suburban freeways meet, across Melbourne.Sydney has two, the M4-M7 and M5-M7-M31 interchanges.There are a few more 'motorway' to 'motorway' interchanges near the Sydney CBD, but they're usually underground or have been crummily tacked onto existing exit ramps, so you either can't appreciate the scale of them, or they are just crummy little ramps tacked onto existing on and offramps.
On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Peter Freeman <peter....@hotmail.com> wrote:
" ... any huge melbourne freeway interchange ... " - ? There aren't many!I really can't see what's so messy about those two Melbourne interchanges. Perhaps only that M3/M1 has Police Road slightly mixed up with it, and M2/M80 has Sharps Rd / Melrose Drive. But otherwise quite simple. Large footprints? Slightly, but about the same as the major suburban interchanges in Sydney.The 'mess' at North Sydney is the inevitable result of the density of routes and the largely unforeseen way the whole complex has incrementally evolved ("grown like topsy" - a common problem). I have no doubt that a suitable design for the addition will be found, and I look forward to it.
On Sunday, March 26, 2017 at 6:51:59 AM UTC+11, DrazPhlaz wrote:Look at any huge melbourne freeway interchange (eg M3/M1 or M80/M2) it's messy, but theres a lot of room. In north sydney where this junction will be there's hardly any room, so imagine the mess they'll make to squeeze this new road in
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Sam Laybutt
Unlike the A3/M7 interchange in Brisbane, most of the new connections will be underground. It'll just be a case of where can all the tunnel portals fit.
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The consequence of this recommendation was that when the M5 East was built, in the late 1990s, a tunnel was used for part of the Wolli Creek Valley and a rare pocket of green space in Sydney's inner south saved.
"I like to think, and I certainly will tell my children, that perhaps my greatest accomplishment in this lifetime was the part I played in saving the Wolli Creek Valley and the Cooks River Valley," Mr Kirby said.
In the early 1980s, Mr Kirby presided over an inquiry into the so-called Warringah Transport corridor, a road reservation that ran through the Castlecrag escarpment across Middle Harbour to Seaforth.
These investigations, which attracted thousands of submissions and sustained public interest, explored in detail issues that have continued to emerge as successive state governments have embarked on vast motorway projects through Sydney.
One issue is whether increasing road capacity really solved the problem of congestion. The Warringah inquiry likened dealing with congestion to dealing with old age – a fact of life that can be managed, but not avoided.
"Like a facelift, the provision of more road space will afford, at best, a temporary respite," Mr Kirby's report said.
On the cover of the final Warringah Inquiry report is a photograph of the Castlecrag escarpment taken by Max Dupain, a resident of Castlecrag. The photograph was Dupain's wordless yet eloquent submission to the Inquiry, which found that a road across the harbour would have diminished the "majesty" of the land-forms.
However, the proposed freeway to Warringah was not simply rejected upon environmental grounds.
The inquiry found that while the freeway had been proposed as a solution to congestion, it would have no significant impact upon congestion, because of the land use consequences of building a freeway. It would open up Warringah, so that it was likely that land would be re-zoned. It was common ground that another 80,000 residents could be expected, who would in turn generate traffic and the same level of congestion as before.
In respect of the Premier's most recent proposal, Mr Kirby said the same land use considerations arose.
"Whilst the proposal to build a tunnel is a significant improvement upon the environmentally destructive surface freeway that I was called upon to consider, the solution to the traffic woes of the Warringah peninsula is complex," Mr Kirby has written in a piece for the Herald.
"Options, including public transport options, should be identified and the public given the opportunity to express its view."
Nihat
Peter Freeman
On Friday, March 3, 2017 at 7:12:48 PM UTC+11, Brendan Terrett wrote:
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Great to see. Together with the new metro, it's good to see more
harbour crossings. Brisbane has it worse than Sydney though with
the way the river runs through the city.
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