Trasicad Australian Standard Font Demo

[mubd1234]

I just found this:

http://homepage.powerup.com.au/~highway/prod02.htm

It has a demo of the Australian Standard 1744 font at the bottom of the page, which is something I've been looking for quite a while. While it's not time limited, it's limited to capital letters only.

Every other font I've found and tried to use with Trasicad is too small or has some odd spacing - this works perfectly, albeit being limited to capital letters.

Here's a sample:

[Paul Rands]

Uber nice find!! Time to see what makes this font so special, so I can sort out the spacing issues when moving objects in Trasicad. Will open it in Fontographer in next few days. If I can adapt the VADOT fonts I have (which do weird spacing things in Trasicad) then we're onto a winner!

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[Sam Laybutt]

Does the roadgeek font series not quite work properly?

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[Paul Rands]

No, they're worse than the VADOT ones that are spinning around on the net. The second you move a text object with either font, all the spacing disappears and all the letters overlap each other.


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[Sam Laybutt]

hmm I see what you mean. Even using the RTA [demo] version I can't get the signs to look right.

Is there a way to align elements of the sign with other elements? e.g. make a route marker centred vertically adjacent next to two focal points? Or is it all manual?

Using the Roadgeek fonts I can't even get the basic route shields to look right. The numerals look too short.

Maybe the full version works better?

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[mubd1234]

What I noticed was that the Australian Standard font is significantly larger in terms of original size than other alternative fonts out there. I'd be guessing the vertical height of the font has been enlarged in the Australian Standard.

[mubd1234]

These might all help - they seem to be official FHWA fonts, but are about half the size of the Australian Standard fonts when you look at them through a text viewer.

[Sam Laybutt]

Not sure those work either - see attached.

TraSiCAD is telling me I have a 160mm high numeral but it doesn't actually appear to be 160mm high in the viewer. 

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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 00:46:16 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Aussie Highways] Trasicad Australian Standard Font Demo

[mubd1234]

Correct - they probably aren't compliant to the Australian Standard, which probably specifies the size of the font, meaning it's physically too small for Trasicad. If the font file is modified, it can quite possibly work, but I can't get my head around font editing programs. You should also try out some of the other Highway Gothic fonts.

[mubd1234]

I've modified the font file so that there are lower case letters. Hooray! 

Unfortunately, it doesn't match the Australian Standard precisely and Trasicad doesn't seem to like letters like p, j and y. They get cut off. I think it's good enough for making sign mock ups, but I'd still love to get my hands on the real thing. Anyway, from what I discovered, the Australian Standard font's height and width are 1.74x larger than the other fonts available.

[mubd1234]

Hallelujah! I've found the problem - I didn't correctly set up the ascender and descender limits. The font now works perfectly in Trasicad, upper and lowercase letters.

[Sam Laybutt]

Excellent! Will have to try this out tomorrow. Thanks Brendan!

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Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 04:49:12 -0700

From: mubd...@gmail.com
To: aussie-...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Aussie Highways] Trasicad Australian Standard Font Demo

Hallelujah! I've found the problem - I didn't correctly set up the ascender and descender limits. The font now works perfectly in Trasicad, upper and lowercase letters.

On Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:11:52 PM UTC+10, mubd1234 wrote:

I've modified the font file so that there are lower case letters. Hooray! 

Unfortunately, it doesn't match the Australian Standard precisely and Trasicad doesn't seem to like letters like p, j and y. They get cut off. I think it's good enough for making sign mock ups, but I'd still love to get my hands on the real thing. Anyway, from what I discovered, the Australian Standard font's height and width are 1.74x larger than the other fonts available.

On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:08:42 PM UTC+11, mubd1234 wrote:

Correct - they probably aren't compliant to the Australian Standard, which probably specifies the size of the font, meaning it's physically too small for Trasicad. If the font file is modified, it can quite possibly work, but I can't get my head around font editing programs. You should also try out some of the other Highway Gothic fonts.

On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 6:51:59 PM UTC+11, crazyknightsfan wrote:

Not sure those work either - see attached.

TraSiCAD is telling me I have a 160mm high numeral but it doesn't actually appear to be 160mm high in the viewer. 

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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 00:46:16 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Aussie Highways] Trasicad Australian Standard Font Demo

These might all help - they seem to be official FHWA fonts, but are about half the size of the Australian Standard fonts when you look at them through a text viewer.

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[hubertla...@gmail.com]

Hmm.. unfortunately it gives me this error whenever I start a new sign:

 

 

Can anyone help? L I’ve already installed the AS1744 font provided by mubd1234! L

 

Thanks

[mubd1234]

No worries - you just have to change the font settings in Trasicad.

Go to Tools > Options...

Click the "New Signs" tab

Then, you have to modify all of the default fonts for each sign type, selecting the AS1744 font (which should be just below Arial).

[hubertla...@gmail.com]

Ooooh thank you mubd1234!!! J

 

I’m living in fantasy land at the moment….

 

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No worries - you just have to change the font settings in Trasicad.

 

Go to Tools > Options...

 

Click the "New Signs" tab

 

Then, you have to modify all of the default fonts for each sign type, selecting the AS1744 font (which should be just below Arial).

On Friday, October 19, 2012 11:50:43 PM UTC+11, Hubert wrote:

Hmm.. unfortunately it gives me this error whenever I start a new sign:

 

 

Can anyone help? L I’ve already installed the AS1744 font provided by mubd1234! L

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[mubd1234]

No worries.

Here's something that shows off quite a few things you can do with the program. 

[Sam Laybutt]

Create terrible looking lane allocation AD signs? :p

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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 23:50:47 -0700

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[mubd1234]

Absolutely!

[hubertla...@gmail.com]

If the RMS was only willing to scrap that left lane turning right on to the M4 at Concord….and have a proper sign for it!

 

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Absolutely!

On Saturday, October 20, 2012 6:31:05 PM UTC+11, crazyknightsfan wrote:

Create terrible looking lane allocation AD signs? :p

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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 23:50:47 -0700
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No worries.

 

Here's something that shows off quite a few things you can do with the program. 

 

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[Sam Laybutt]

Would look better and meet current standards with upward pointing arrows...

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Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 13:53:57 +0000

[hubertla...@gmail.com]

No wonder why it looked strange! J

 

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Would look better and meet current standards with upward pointing arrows...

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Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 13:53:57 +0000

If the RMS was only willing to scrap that left lane turning right on to the M4 at Concord….and have a proper sign for it!

 

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[DJ Who]

Is there any update in regards to this thread.. How far have you guys gotten since the first post? Is there a close replacement for the font AS1744..

[Paul Rands]

I have AS1744 E Modified, but not the rest

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[Darryl Belleza]

Hi Paul

Would it be possible for you to share with me the AS1744 E Modified font and other AS1744 fonts you may have? Thanks

Darryl