TfNSW - Alphanumeric Route Markers now borderless

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Brendan Terrett

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May 31, 2020, 4:41:49 AM5/31/20
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RIP our sexy alpha borders. Now we have to deal with crap naked alphas like the rest of the country :(

There are several signs lining the M5 East recently installed which have borderless alphas, and apparently replacement signage on the south coast following the bushfires has had the treatment. 

The exit sign example in the technical direction sheet looks pretty awful, but it's probably more a layout issue than anything else.

ed24f1

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May 31, 2020, 5:36:28 AM5/31/20
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A bit disappointing as I prefer the look with the border, but standardisation does make sense. It is surprising with so many signs recently installed with borders though.

I suppose it's a good time do this type of project and create some jobs for all the coverplating/new signs required! 

Albert Alcoceba

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May 31, 2020, 6:05:19 AM5/31/20
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I doubt they will be cover plating or replacing any existing signs unless they are due for replacement anyway.



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A bit disappointing as I prefer the look with the border, but standardisation does make sense. It is surprising with so many signs recently installed with borders though.

I suppose it's a good time do this type of project and create some jobs for all the coverplating/new signs required! 

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Paul Mech

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I actually preferred the border alpha signage. Looked tidy. 

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I doubt they will be cover plating or replacing any existing signs unless they are due for replacement anyway.

Aevion

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May 31, 2020, 6:46:17 AM5/31/20
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Definitely prefer the bordered numbers, but I also understand why they'd want to standardise it all. That being said, in the name of 'standardisation' it would be nice to finally see a full changeover to alphas country-wide.

Vincent Muller

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This seems to speak to the wider trend of standardising signage and markings in NSW. Another example I can point towards - the specifications for pavement arrows looks to have been updated in 2014, and arrows in NSW now more closely resemble those in Victoria/Queensland per the provisions outlined in AS1742.

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Musa Hodzic

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Jun 1, 2020, 9:58:55 AM6/1/20
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Yes Vincent, I also noticed that, except that in other states the line of the arrow is centered in the lane whereas in NSW, the whole arrow in centered, which is neater and better IMO. NSW was the only state to have different style turning arrows.

Also, I never actually liked the alphas and if I was to choose, I always preferred them WITHOUT the border. The border seemed to carry on from the shield system, was kinda hard letting it go. If they want to keep the coverplate people busy, well, I wish they bring back the shield system and start from scratch (I'm being silly, but I miss the shields).

Brad Forbes

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Jun 4, 2020, 8:22:36 PM6/4/20
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Noticed the lack of border on new signage in bushfire impacted areas on the south coast (see attached pic).




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> Yes Vincent, I also noticed that, except that in other states the line of the arrow is centered in the lane whereas in NSW, the whole arrow in centered, which is neater and better IMO. NSW was the only state to have different style turning arrows.
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> On Mon, 1 Jun 2020, 09:36 Vincent Muller, <vincent...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> This seems to speak to the wider trend of standardising signage and markings in NSW. Another example I can point towards - the specifications for pavement arrows looks to have been updated in 2014, and arrows in NSW now more closely resemble those in Victoria/Queensland per the provisions outlined in AS1742.
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> Definitely prefer the bordered numbers, but I also understand why they'd want to standardise it all. That being said, in the name of 'standardisation' it would be nice to finally see a full changeover to alphas country-wide.
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> On Sunday, 31 May 2020 18:41:49 UTC+10, Brendan Terrett wrote:RIP our sexy alpha borders. Now we have to deal with crap naked alphas like the rest of the country :(
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Vincent Muller

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To be honest, that looks better than I was expecting. I guess we've previously been burned by the experience of dodgy Queensland alpha coverplates? 😂

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Sam Laybutt

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The RMS layouts are generally a lot easier to read than QLD, NT etc with the route number given similar prominence regardless of whether it's alpha-numeric or a shielded route. 

I think the main issue with alpha-numerics is when you get awfully designed signs like this example from Darwin: https://goo.gl/maps/PB4t4WEQgrSZMChL7

The 'A1' legend height is non-compliant (AS1742.15 specifies it must be the same or one size larger than the main legend height, whereas in this case it matches the smaller road name) plus the positioning and lack of spacing between 'A' and '1' makes it very difficult to ead. 


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Nihat

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Jun 5, 2020, 12:14:13 AM6/5/20
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yes looks quite good, similar if not identical to victoria which is fine for me 

Musa Hodzic

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Jun 5, 2020, 12:54:05 AM6/5/20
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Much better without the border IMO. Thanks Brad.

Sam, LOL, that IS hideous indeed! HAHA.

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Aevion

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Jun 7, 2020, 4:21:17 AM6/7/20
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Not too bad at all, actually. I was prepared to be disappointed but it's actually quite neat. 

QTMR need to take a good hard look at this and rectify their so-called 'standards', but perhaps they're beyond help now.

Musa Hodzic

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I only wish that they don't use the green "footprint" as the background on blue signs. Just the florescent route marker will do.

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Alex Csar

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If it’s any guide, Victorian tourist signs have route numbers on white-bordered green patches (much like the old NSW alphas), so bordered alphas might not disappear entirely.

Cheers,
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Musa Hodzic

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Jun 13, 2020, 1:00:02 AM6/13/20
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Oh wow, you got any links to that Alex?

Nihat

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Musa Hodzic

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Jun 14, 2020, 1:48:45 PM6/14/20
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Oh wow. Thanks for that. Yeah, that looks much better with the border on non-green signs than just slapping a green patch. Love it.

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Definitely prefer it over the bordered route numbers

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Yeah that's horrible. And there's loads of them like that in NT, as shown already on my site, and what will be coming in this current update I am working on

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Some borderless M5 signs spotted today attached.

There's something dodgy with the font in images 06 and 07 though. For example, the angled ends on "d" and "p" are inverted and the sizing/spacing seems off also.

Bonus image: Remnant Metroad 5 sign (image 09).


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Paul Rands

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Definitely better without the borders

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More borderless signs popping up now. Sorry, the image quality isn't good since they're crops from dashcam video screenshots.
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Vincent Muller

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I was a little surprised to see that the M8 signage has borders, but perhaps it was procured and installed before the standards changed?

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Brendan Terrett

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Jul 6, 2020, 6:56:08 AM7/6/20
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They didn't change the designs from  two years ago (based on old 3D renders where they did have some signage visible), so I'd say so.


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I was a little surprised to see that the M8 signage has borders, but perhaps it was procured and installed before the standards changed?

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More borderless signs popping up now. Sorry, the image quality isn't good since they're crops from dashcam video screenshots.

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Some borderless M5 signs spotted today attached.

There's something dodgy with the font in images 06 and 07 though. For example, the angled ends on "d" and "p" are inverted and the sizing/spacing seems off also.

Bonus image: Remnant Metroad 5 sign (image 09).

On Sunday, 31 May 2020 18:41:49 UTC+10, Brendan Terrett wrote:
RIP our sexy alpha borders. Now we have to deal with crap naked alphas like the rest of the country :(

There are several signs lining the M5 East recently installed which have borderless alphas, and apparently replacement signage on the south coast following the bushfires has had the treatment. 

The exit sign example in the technical direction sheet looks pretty awful, but it's probably more a layout issue than anything else.

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Musa Hodzic

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Jul 6, 2020, 8:46:30 PM7/6/20
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Awesome

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Vincent Muller

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Pretty much all the signage between Lithgow and Bell on Bells Line of Road has been replaced by borderless signage. Unfortunately I don't have a dashcam so no photographic evidence, but if I get back up that way I'll have to pull over for a shot.

Hubert Lam

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That'd be mainly due to the bushfire? 

Vincent Muller

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Yeah, the fires came particularly close to that stretch of Bells Line of Road.

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Here are some screenshots from my dashcam.
Awesome

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Vincent Muller

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That's them! Thank you 😁

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stuarthwy87

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found another one

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Paul Rands

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That’s an unattractive and wrong sign


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found another one

DrazPhlaz

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Oct 11, 2020, 8:38:29 PM10/11/20
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I hate the northern end of the Hunter Expressway, it feels so half-assed it’s not funny. No real intersection, A43 just ends and then you’re whisked back onto the freeway towards Newcastle and forced to u-turn

kakaduhwyA21 (formerly stuarthwy87)

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well, wait for the M15 extension to happen.

Musa Hodzic

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Here's a fresh one from today :) Seems wrong and not as big as I thought they were going to be. Pretty much the same size and placement as with borders.

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kakaduhwyA21 (formerly stuarthwy87)

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Oct 14, 2020, 4:35:44 AM10/14/20
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someone else posted that above

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Spotted these two today.

You can't really tell from the photo, but the yellow is really bright – much more so than the usual ones from when they were in the white border.
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Brendan Terrett

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kakaduhwyA21 (formerly stuarthwy87)

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it looks more like someones vandalised the A1 and the M5 than how it really is printed

I hate borderless signage. Looks more nicer with the border

kakaduhwyA21 (formerly stuarthwy87)

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Oct 16, 2020, 4:31:00 AM10/16/20
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even this one looks better, and same with the incorrect A15 sign

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Musa Hodzic

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Oct 17, 2020, 9:38:33 AM10/17/20
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Those borderless look awesome, just the white patch and street font don't have the right size and spacing.

Musa Hodzic

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Oct 17, 2020, 9:39:23 AM10/17/20
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Haha, M5 SR shield colours.

kakaduhwyA21 (formerly stuarthwy87)

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Oct 18, 2020, 1:22:36 AM10/18/20
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I thought they were Toll colours and then I realised that the M5 didn't have tolls back then

Musa Hodzic

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Here's another one. Sorry about the quality.

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Nihat

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Oct 21, 2020, 8:07:43 PM10/21/20
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as part of the Smart motorway M4 I thought they would be installing these type of signs alas nothing occurred. 

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Oct 21, 2020, 8:16:48 PM10/21/20
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Here's a screenshot from my dashcam of the same sign.
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Paul Rands

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That dash cam shot is amazing quality. What cam are you using?
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Musa Hodzic

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kakaduhwyA21 (formerly stuarthwy87)

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Oct 22, 2020, 1:20:57 AM10/22/20
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they could have changed the A1/D5 signs

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I'm using a GoPro Hero9 as my dashcam as it has 5K resolution. I run it off the car's USB power.

kakaduhwyA21 (formerly stuarthwy87)

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Paul Rands

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Nice. I had considered going to a Go Pro before I settled on another Sony camera for photos for the site.
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Sam Laybutt

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I hope you're joking, these layouts are definitely not aesthetic. 


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Musa Hodzic

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I agree. Looks crammed.

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kakaduhwyA21 (formerly stuarthwy87)

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Okay, so mabye I was being sarcastic but I do like SA style markers.

kakaduhwyA21 (formerly stuarthwy87)

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Oct 23, 2020, 2:42:20 AM10/23/20
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There will still be bordered signs in the ACT

If the ACT does nothing and all NSW signs are borderless, then there will always be this ACT sign in NSW.


and strangely enough, there's a bordered sign in QLD



On Friday, June 12, 2020 at 12:32:36 PM UTC+10 Alex Csar wrote:
If it’s any guide, Victorian tourist signs have route numbers on white-bordered green patches (much like the old NSW alphas), so bordered alphas might not disappear entirely.

Cheers,
Alex.

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I only wish that they don't use the green "footprint" as the background on blue signs. Just the florescent route marker will do.

On Sun, 7 Jun 2020, 18:21 Aevion, <vortec-...@live.com.au> wrote:
Not too bad at all, actually. I was prepared to be disappointed but it's actually quite neat. 

QTMR need to take a good hard look at this and rectify their so-called 'standards', but perhaps they're beyond help now.

On Friday, 5 June 2020 10:22:36 UTC+10, Brad Forbes wrote:
Noticed the lack of border on new signage in bushfire impacted areas on the south coast (see attached pic).




On Monday, 1 June 2020 23:58:55 UTC+10, Musa Hodzic  wrote:
> Yes Vincent, I also noticed that, except that in other states the line of the arrow is centered in the lane whereas in NSW, the whole arrow in centered, which is neater and better IMO. NSW was the only state to have different style turning arrows.
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> Also, I never actually liked the alphas and if I was to choose, I always preferred them WITHOUT the border. The border seemed to carry on from the shield system, was kinda hard letting it go. If they want to keep the coverplate people busy, well, I wish they bring back the shield system and start from scratch (I'm being silly, but I miss the shields).
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> On Mon, 1 Jun 2020, 09:36 Vincent Muller, <vincent...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> This seems to speak to the wider trend of standardising signage and markings in NSW. Another example I can point towards - the specifications for pavement arrows looks to have been updated in 2014, and arrows in NSW now more closely resemble those in Victoria/Queensland per the provisions outlined in AS1742.
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> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 8:46 PM Aevion <vortec-...@live.com.au> wrote:
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> Definitely prefer the bordered numbers, but I also understand why they'd want to standardise it all. That being said, in the name of 'standardisation' it would be nice to finally see a full changeover to alphas country-wide.
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> On Sunday, 31 May 2020 18:41:49 UTC+10, Brendan Terrett  wrote:RIP our sexy alpha borders. Now we have to deal with crap naked alphas like the rest of the country :(
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> There are several signs lining the M5 East recently installed which have borderless alphas, and apparently replacement signage on the south coast following the bushfires has had the treatment. 
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> The exit sign example in the technical direction sheet looks pretty awful, but it's probably more a layout issue than anything else.
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