M12 Motorway name

[Johnny Telcher]

What do you think the M12 Motorway be called?

I think it will be most likely called Elizabeth Motorway as it pretty much supersedes Elizabeth Drive as the main road between The Northern Road and the M7.

[davis]

Not being a PPP, it doesn't really have a pressing "need" for a name. 

While the NSW government is copping some heat for its predecessor naming the development surrounding the airport "Bradfield", nonetheless let's call it "Bradfield Highway". I'm sure that won't be confusing.

[Jason Kumar]

Have a feeling they'll just call it the M12 motorway.  Northconnex didn't even get a new name and route number which was a shame. Elizabeth motorway would be nice though

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[#130km/hforthehume]

Maybe WSA Motorway/Freeway, which is actually somewhat of an intuitive name? Most motorways in Sydney have other names; they're just not signed. Elizabeth Motorway seems unlikely given the naming of the Hunter Expy.

Might seem like an arbitrary question, but what does "PPP" mean, davis?

[ed24f1]

Public Private Partnership

[Nihat]

Hopefully it can be named after a significant Western Sydney or airline pioneer. There probably would be opportunities on the shared path also. A wonderful opportunity and there are benchmarks from other cities around the world with their main arterials to the airport. 

On Mon, 5 June 2023, 2:56 pm Johnny Telcher, <johnny...@gmail.com> wrote:

What do you think the M12 Motorway be called?

I think it will be most likely called Elizabeth Motorway as it pretty much supersedes Elizabeth Drive as the main road between The Northern Road and the M7.

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[AlienChex]

Nancy Bird Motorway? Why not name it after the airport 

[Nihat]

Community update for this project: https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/system/files/media/documents/2024/m12-community-update-2024-09.pdf

Flyover - West https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbEax1kiZuk

Flyover - East https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-xI-4oBEBQ

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[Nihat]

December update

https://media.caapp.com.au/tztkrl.pdf

Flyover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ1cbqkWyvc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xlR-oBzjC4

[Paul Rands]

Those aerial videos are awesome. Can't wait for this to open to get pix!

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[Nihat]

End of year video: https://media.caapp.com.au/embed/gs1ry2?autoplay=true

Includes an example of signage, it looks OK but I would have preferred the M12 to be brighter. I thought they had moved that way going forward but at least it is borderless. 

Presumably the signs earlier on the motorway will specify airport here is Western Sydney. 

[Hubert Lam]

Nancy Bird Walton Motorway? 😊

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[davis]

It's already her airport. The equivalent would be the naming of "Southern Cross" Drive being Kingsford-Smith's famous aircraft. Walton was a mostly known as WOMAN employed pilot, but it seems her first personal aircraft was a DH60G named "Vincere".

I don't know that "Vincere Motorway" makes a great name though...

https://www.airhistory.net/photo/408096/VH-UTN

[Luke W]

I can only think that with what seems like NSW naming policy about motorways and tunnels that have a number, it'll just stay the "M12 Motorway" publicly (heck, even Northconnex lost its name on most signs once it finally got a number, to just become the "M11 Tunnel").

Not exactly like there's a need for a brand for the project beyond that since it's toll-free, either. On the other hand, you could use the precedent of the M4 getting its "Western Motorway" name back when it briefly went toll-free as an argument the other way.

I do wonder how they will delineate the two in places where it's needed... thinking places like the M5/M7 interchange which could point you to either. Even just "SYD" or "WSI" attached to the airport logos there.