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dude

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Dec 12, 2004, 7:58:32 AM12/12/04
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Egads, it's awful!

Who thought that production number (all-singing-all-dancing) with the current
'Stable of Stars' with Robert Palmer-girl-esque backing chicks (with requisite
vacuous mannequin look) would be a winner????

Channel 7's long-lunching outsourced creative gurus of conceptualisation, that's
who.


Monty

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Dec 12, 2004, 8:18:45 AM12/12/04
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"dude" <x...@x.com> wrote in message news:41bc...@news.alphalink.com.au...
Yeah, I choked on my sauerkraut sandwich ;)


BF

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Dec 12, 2004, 9:09:47 AM12/12/04
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dude wrote:

> Egads, it's awful!

i agree it's particularly tacky.

what they should be doing is the whole "summer" motif ie. show lots of
skin and work on the fact that in Australia Xmas time falls during the
summer - not wishing for snow with tacky tacky bad singers.

Dean

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Dec 12, 2004, 9:14:31 AM12/12/04
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outsourced creative gurus of conceptualisation

That's a good name for a punk band.

Dean.


StevieWonder

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Dec 13, 2004, 5:27:29 AM12/13/04
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"dude" <x...@x.com> wrote in message news:41bc...@news.alphalink.com.au...
> Egads, it's awful!
>
> Who thought that production number (all-singing-all-dancing) with the
current
> 'Stable of Stars' with Robert Palmer-girl-esque backing chicks (with
requisite
> vacuous mannequin look) would be a winner????

It's just a rip off out of the movie "Love Actually".


wim

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Dec 13, 2004, 5:47:53 AM12/13/04
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"StevieWonder" <someblack...@projects.com> wrote in message
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I was about to say that. It's hard to tell if the other posters knew or
not.
Why else would such a cheesey song be on tv?
The song has entered the (sort of) real world.

>
>


Chasing Kate

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Dec 13, 2004, 10:22:44 PM12/13/04
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And what's with them saying "let it snow, let it snow"

WE DON'T HAVE SNOW IN AUSTRALIA.

Why do they persist with this notion of snow and snowmen and
all that other s**t?

dude

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Dec 14, 2004, 1:00:09 AM12/14/04
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: It's just a rip off out of the movie "Love Actually".

I didn't know that, since I never see those types of movies* so I'm glad you
pointed that out.

I'd already forgotten the song, but someone else has reminded dedicated readers
of this thread that it was 'Let it snow' - suitably ironic in Aus.


* i.e. movies that I know I would find interminably boring.


StevieWonder

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Dec 14, 2004, 3:33:14 AM12/14/04
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WE DON'T HAVE SNOW IN AUSTRALIA.
>
> Why do they persist with this notion of snow and snowmen and
> all that other s**t?

It does snow in here in the winter of course and it has even been known to
snow at Christmas time in the mountains of Tasmania.
I remember a news report from a few years when it snowed on Christmas Day
there.


Chasing Kate

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Dec 14, 2004, 3:41:25 AM12/14/04
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StevieWonder wrote:


But usually that's confined mostly to the winter months. Sometimes
it may happen out of season.

For the mainland it's mostly places like Mt. Bulla and the like and
that's usually a winter event.

So for the most part what I said was correct.

So why do channel 7 associate christmas with snow in the promo?


StevieWonder

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Dec 14, 2004, 4:30:55 AM12/14/04
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> So for the most part what I said was correct.

Obviously this is a very important thing to you, so in the good spirit of
Christmas and Christmas snow I'll let you think your completely correct :)


josh

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Dec 14, 2004, 6:35:54 AM12/14/04
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bloody hell, can't you guys tell when someone is doing a pisstake ... i
highly doubt it is meant to be serious ... just look at the cheesy koala in
the gum tree ... plus the background is an aussie beach. :)

jj.


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dude

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Dec 14, 2004, 7:40:46 AM12/14/04
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: > i.e. movies that I know I would find interminably boring.
: You mean British films, don't you?

Heh. I'm choosing to briefly answer your light-hearted remark seriously.

No. Nationality is almost irrelevant to me. I want (by and large) __substance__
in a movie, realism, something that rewards the viewer's intelligence (not
scripted as though it's [or actually] aimed at 12-14 year-olds). I rarely care
for movies that give much higher priority to effects/action rather than good
storytelling... It would be possible to have both... but preview-testing with
dumb audiences (and conservative power-brokers) lead to movies being re-cut, or
dumbed down before they even get to that stage. Not much stands out as being
non-formulaic and different. I like a good laugh and a bit of escapism, but most
of the mainstream stuff just bores me shitless, it's hard to believe it's is
aimed at adults. I'm clearly a minority demographic.

H00htee the n1ght 0wl

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Dec 14, 2004, 1:17:38 PM12/14/04
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"StevieWonder" <someblack...@projects.com> wrote in message
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> WE DON'T HAVE SNOW IN AUSTRALIA.
>>

I had a snow fight in Newcastle on Xmas day 1997 with real snow that fell in
Australia.

Chasing Kate

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Dec 14, 2004, 10:19:15 PM12/14/04
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"Paul....@jcu.edu.au" wrote:

> Chasing Kate wrote:
> > WE DON'T HAVE SNOW IN AUSTRALIA.
>

> Really? Wow. That must make skiing at Threbo and Perisher really
> hard.


But you don't at xmas time do you?


> Hey... it snowed when I lived in Bathurst... are you saying that
> Bathurst isn't in Australia?


No Bathurst is cool and it's definitely part of Australia


dude

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Dec 15, 2004, 2:09:19 AM12/15/04
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: Realism... not really. I've studied neo-realism, I've had too much
: social realism, and I don't like reality (TV) films.

By 'realism' I didn't mean 'reality' as such, I mean (by and large) characters
relating to each other in a way (and with dialogue) that is plausible, and with
depth, functioning on several levels, perhaps... and much of this need not be
spoken, per se ... and I am open to fantasy., etc., occasionally, if it still
fills a few of my other criteria.

: > something that rewards the viewer's intelligence
:
: Exactly. I've had flatmates tell me "You don't have to think about
: everything you watch" (they were talking about TV, not movies, but the
: result's the same) I replied "I can't just turn my brain off."

Yup! Ditto. It is with housemates (and at friends' houses) that I have watched
some of the most mind-numbingly boring material I've ever encountered -- usually
simply to be sociable -- important when one is a new housemate and doesn't want
to come across as a weird recluse! I really know I've hit rock-bottom when I'm
more interested by the next ad break!!

: If you lived in Townsville I'd tell you to come along to the
: Townsville Cinema Group next year, sounds like just your cup of tea.

Wish I could, but T-ville is a bit far from good ol' Steak 'n' Kydney.

: I still don't see how any of that means that "Love, Actually" isn't.

I usually make my thumbnail evaluations of what movies I may (or may not) bother
with with a cursory eye cast over At The Movies, The Movie Show, reviews on 2BL
and Radio National, and in the Sydney Morning Herald... and then I still only
end up seeing a small percentage of what may have even piqued me. So, I can't
really evaluate "Love, Actually" in great detail, it's true. I suppose
eventually I'll cast an eye over it when it arrives on FTA... if there's nothing
better on!


H00htee the n1ght 0wl

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Dec 15, 2004, 7:27:08 AM12/15/04
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"Chasing Kate" <sittingi...@internode.on.net> wrote in message
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> "Paul....@jcu.edu.au" wrote:
>
>> Chasing Kate wrote:
>> > WE DON'T HAVE SNOW IN AUSTRALIA.
>>
>> Really? Wow. That must make skiing at Threbo and Perisher really
>> hard.
>
>
> But you don't at xmas time do you?
>

I did in 1997, in Newcastle.

Paul....@jcu.edu.au

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Dec 14, 2004, 3:23:48 AM12/14/04
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dude wrote:
> : It's just a rip off out of the movie "Love Actually".
>
> I didn't know that, since I never see those types of movies* so I'm
glad you
> pointed that out.

> * i.e. movies that I know I would find interminably boring.


You mean British films, don't you?

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Paul....@jcu.edu.au

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Dec 14, 2004, 3:18:45 AM12/14/04
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Yeah, they used a song (re-)created to be terribly tacky and are using
it in their promotions.

To paraphrase Billy Mac in the film: "...so if you believe in
Christmas, children, like your uncle Billy does, watch this festering
turd of a station..."


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Paul....@jcu.edu.au

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Dec 14, 2004, 7:37:57 PM12/14/04
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dude wrote:
> : > i.e. movies that I know I would find interminably boring.
> : You mean British films, don't you?
> Heh. I'm choosing to briefly answer your light-hearted remark
seriously.

If you wish.

> No. Nationality is almost irrelevant to me.

Good.


> I want (by and large) __substance__ in a movie,

Ditto. That's why I avoid Rom-Coms, anything with Jerry Bruchiemer on
the poster and most action films.

> realism,

Realism... not really. I've studies neo-realism, I've had too much


social realism, and I don't like reality(TV) films.

> something that rewards the viewer's intelligence

Exactly. I've had flatmates tell me "You don't have to think about


everything you watch" (they were talking about TV, not movies, but the
result's the same) I replied "I can't just turn my brain off."

> (not scripted as though it's [or actually] aimed at 12-14 year-olds).

I know.

> I rarely care
> for movies that give much higher priority to effects/action rather
than good
> storytelling...

Yes.

> It would be possible to have both... but preview-testing with
> dumb audiences (and conservative power-brokers) lead to movies being
re-cut, > or
> dumbed down before they even get to that stage. Not much stands out
as being
> non-formulaic and different.

True.


> I like a good laugh and a bit of escapism, but most
> of the mainstream stuff just bores me shitless, it's hard to believe
it's is
> aimed at adults. I'm clearly a minority demographic.

Yeah. If you lived in Townsville I'd tell you to come along to the


Townsville Cinema Group next year, sounds like just your cup of tea.

I still don't see how any of that means that "Love, Actually" isn't.
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Paul....@jcu.edu.au

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Dec 14, 2004, 7:46:15 PM12/14/04
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josh wrote:
> bloody hell, can't you guys tell when someone is doing a pisstake ...

Yes, but Seven can't.

"Love, Actually" presented a Christmas song that it called a "Festering
Turd" to comment on the banality of pop music and especially christmas
releases.

Seven then uses this "festering turd" to promote the station?

> i
> highly doubt it is meant to be serious ... just look at the cheesy
koala in
> the gum tree ... plus the background is an aussie beach. :)

Wow, it's like Australian Christmas Cards from the 70s.
What a new joke.

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Paul....@jcu.edu.au

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Dec 14, 2004, 8:08:49 PM12/14/04
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Chasing Kate wrote:
> WE DON'T HAVE SNOW IN AUSTRALIA.

Really? Wow. That must make skiing at Threbo and Perisher really
hard.

Hey... it snowed when I lived in Bathurst... are you saying that


Bathurst isn't in Australia?

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= DUG.
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