Re: New phone scam (at least to me)

[felix]

On 20/09/2017 3:05 PM, Petzl wrote:
> getting nuisance calls now
> "four car crashed into mine last week"--
>
> Petzl
>
> Same Sex Marriage
>
> It is ok to vote no.
>
> You'll never believe why the Army sacked
>
>  this decorated intelligence officer
>
> https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo


bloody 'ell! PC bastards! (I'm disseminating this video)


--
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in history- http://tinyurl.com/pv9r33k
http://thereligionofpeace.com
http://www.barenakedislam.com/
https://www.jihadwatch.org

[de chucka]

On 20/09/2017 4:49 PM, felix wrote:
> On 20/09/2017 3:05 PM, Petzl wrote:
>> getting nuisance calls now
>> "four car crashed into mine last week"--
>>
>> Petzl
>>
>> Same Sex Marriage
>>
>> It is ok to vote no.
>>
>> You'll never believe why the Army sacked
>>
>> this decorated intelligence officer
>>
>> https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo
>
>
> bloody 'ell! PC bastards! (I'm disseminating this video)

Is this the bloke? "Reservist major Bernard Gaynor was dismissed in 2013
for making “offensive and divisive” statements about homosexual and
transgender people and criticising Muslims.

" Gaynor was also dumped as a Queensland Senate candidate for Katter’s
Australia party over his comments, and was recently affiliated with the
anti-Islam Australian Liberty Alliance party."

[Petzl]

On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 16:49:14 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
wrote:

>> It is ok to vote no.
>>
>> You'll never believe why the Army sacked
>>
>>  this decorated intelligence officer
>>
>> https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo
>
>
>bloody 'ell! PC bastards! (I'm disseminating this video)

There are others sacked for supporting the no vote
http://www.2gb.com/podcast/same-sex-marriage-and-biased-public-servants/

[Trevor]

On 20/09/2017 5:02 PM, Petzl wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 16:49:14 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid>

> There are others sacked for supporting the no vote
> http://www.2gb.com/podcast/same-sex-marriage-and-biased-public-servants/

Amazing people not only believe 2GB rubbish but would quote it as a
reference and expect others to believe it! :-)

Trevor.

[Ned Latham]

The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
> felix wrote:

> > Petzl wrote:
> > >
> > > You'll never believe why the Army sacked
> > > this decorated intelligence officer
> > >
> > > https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo
> >
> > bloody 'ell! PC bastards! (I'm disseminating this video)
>
> Is this the bloke?

It is.

> "Reservist major Bernard Gaynor was dismissed in
> 2013 for making 'offensive and divisive' statements about homosexual
> and transgender people and criticising Muslims.
>

> "Gaynor was also dumped as a Queensland Senate candidate for Katter???s

> Australia party over his comments, and was recently affiliated with the
> anti-Islam Australian Liberty Alliance party."

So much angst over something so trivial. It's ridiculous.

Still, it keeps the sheeple's minds off the real issues, ay.

[Petzl]

Isn't Alan Jones gay?

[Rod Speed]

Petzl wrote

> Same Sex Marriage

> It is ok to vote no.

> You'll never believe why the Army sacked

> this decorated intelligence officer

Stupidity officer, actually.

> https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo

Just the usual stupid shit. There is no reason why stuff
like that would change if poofters are allowed to marry.

[Rod Speed]

"de chucka" <Dech...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fo2dnUm2eYx7jF_E...@westnet.com.au...

> On 20/09/2017 4:49 PM, felix wrote:
>> On 20/09/2017 3:05 PM, Petzl wrote:
>>> getting nuisance calls now
>>> "four car crashed into mine last week"--
>>>
>>> Petzl
>>>
>>> Same Sex Marriage
>>>
>>> It is ok to vote no.
>>>
>>> You'll never believe why the Army sacked
>>>
>>> this decorated intelligence officer
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo
>>
>>
>> bloody 'ell! PC bastards! (I'm disseminating this video)
>
> Is this the bloke?

Yep.

> "Reservist major Bernard Gaynor was dismissed in 2013 for making
> “offensive and divisive” statements about homosexual and transgender
> people and criticising Muslims.

Yep, 6 kids, must be a fucking catholic bigot.

> " Gaynor was also dumped as a Queensland Senate candidate for Katter’s
> Australia party over his comments, and was recently affiliated with the
> anti-Islam Australian Liberty Alliance party."

Now been flushed where it belongs.

[Trevor]

On 20/09/2017 6:22 PM, Petzl wrote:
> Isn't Alan Jones gay?

Surely no woman OR man would want sex with Alan Jones!

Trevor.

[felix]

the point is that his performance as a member of the defence force was
not in question he was only sacked because of his beliefs


--
"I used to be forgettful and indecisive. Don't
remember when. Think I was. Maybe not."

[felix]

On 20/09/2017 5:02 PM, Petzl wrote:

> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 16:49:14 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>> It is ok to vote no.
>>>
>>> You'll never believe why the Army sacked
>>>
>>>  this decorated intelligence officer
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo
>>
>> bloody 'ell! PC bastards! (I'm disseminating this video)
> There are others sacked for supporting the no vote
> http://www.2gb.com/podcast/same-sex-marriage-and-biased-public-servants/

and another.. https://tinyurl.com/y8r52vlh

[Petzl]

On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 21:23:10 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
wrote:

>On 20/09/2017 5:02 PM, Petzl wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 16:49:14 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> It is ok to vote no.
>>>>
>>>> You'll never believe why the Army sacked
>>>>
>>>>  this decorated intelligence officer
>>>>
>>>> https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo
>>>
>>> bloody 'ell! PC bastards! (I'm disseminating this video)
>> There are others sacked for supporting the no vote
>> http://www.2gb.com/podcast/same-sex-marriage-and-biased-public-servants/
>
>
>and another.. https://tinyurl.com/y8r52vlh

Yes Qantas are another
Most voting yes don't realize the "legal" twist on schools, "18C" type
legislation, Countries that have OK' ed SSM have found it had bad
consequences Canada for instance
http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2015/04/14899/

--
Petzl
Same Sex Marriage

[Rod Speed]

"felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message
news:f2f14a...@mid.individual.net...

> On 20/09/2017 7:32 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>> Petzl wrote
>>
>>> Same Sex Marriage
>>
>>> It is ok to vote no.
>>
>>> You'll never believe why the Army sacked
>>
>>> this decorated intelligence officer
>>
>> Stupidity officer, actually.
>>> https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo
>>
>> Just the usual stupid shit. There is no reason why stuff like that would
>> change if poofters are allowed to marry.
>>
>>
>
> the point is that his performance as a member of the defence force was not
> in question he was only sacked because of his beliefs

No, he was sacked from the RESERVES, because of the stupid shit he spewed.

And that wont change if poofters are allowed to marry.

[de chucka]

On 20/09/2017 9:35 PM, Petzl wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 21:23:10 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On 20/09/2017 5:02 PM, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 16:49:14 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> It is ok to vote no.
>>>>>
>>>>> You'll never believe why the Army sacked
>>>>>
>>>>> this decorated intelligence officer
>>>>>
>>>>> https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo
>>>>
>>>> bloody 'ell! PC bastards! (I'm disseminating this video)
>>> There are others sacked for supporting the no vote
>>> http://www.2gb.com/podcast/same-sex-marriage-and-biased-public-servants/
>>
>>
>> and another.. https://tinyurl.com/y8r52vlh
>
> Yes Qantas are another
> Most voting yes don't realize the "legal" twist on schools, "18C" type
> legislation, Countries that have OK' ed SSM have found it had bad
> consequences Canada for instance
> http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2015/04/14899/
>

So no consequences in Canada

[de chucka]

On 20/09/2017 9:18 PM, felix wrote:
> On 20/09/2017 7:32 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>> Petzl wrote
>>
>>> Same Sex Marriage
>>
>>> It is ok to vote no.
>>
>>> You'll never believe why the Army sacked
>>
>>> this decorated intelligence officer
>>
>> Stupidity officer, actually.
>>> https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo
>>
>> Just the usual stupid shit. There is no reason why stuff like that
>> would change if poofters are allowed to marry.
>>
>>
>
> the point is that his performance as a member of the defence force was
> not in question he was only sacked because of his beliefs
>
>

and his comments about the military leadership.

[Ned Latham]

The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:

> Felix wrote:
> > Rod Speed wrote:
> > > Petzl wrote
> > > >

> > > > You'll never believe why the Army sacked
> > > > this decorated intelligence officer
> > > >

> > > > https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo
> > >
> > > Just the usual stupid shit. There is no reason why stuff like
> > > that would change if poofters are allowed to marry.
> >
> > the point is that his performance as a member of the defence force
> > was not in question he was only sacked because of his beliefs
>
> and his comments about the military leadership.

State them.

[de chucka]

While I agree with his comments it is not up to a serving ADF officer to
make them.
""It is my unpleasant duty to inform you that the Australian Defence
Force has a fundamentally broken approach to religion, an approach
shaped partly by the triumph of bureaucratic administration over
battlefield considerations but mostly by political correctness …

"The ADF has a fundamentally flawed understanding of Islam. Just look at
Iraq. I was one of the last Australians to serve there. All the
politicians and military hierarchy were saying the withdrawal of Western
military force was based on success. And yet al-Qaeda today controls
more of Iraq than it ever did while Western forces were in the country …"

and comments I don't agree about
"Defence gave approval for its proud uniform to be paraded through the
streets of Sydney during the Mardi Gras, sharing the road with pimps,
prostitutes and purveyors of moral decadence," Mr Gaynor's press release
read.

"The supposedly apolitical ADF is now marching to the beat of a very
political tune, drummed up by those who demand gay marriage and take
pleasure in ridiculing Christianity.

"Defence is bending over at every opportunity to help gay members but
has hauled me over the coals for expressing my religious and political
beliefs."

Sorry but here are strict rules on what ADF officers can say publicly
and he breached them even after being warned. Let's see what the High
Court says about those rules

[de chucka]

On 21/09/2017 7:31 AM, de chucka wrote:
> On 21/09/2017 7:19 AM, Ned Latham wrote:
>> The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
>>> Felix wrote:
>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You'll never believe why the Army sacked
>>>>>> this decorated intelligence officer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo
>>>>>
>>>>> Just the usual stupid shit. There is no reason why stuff like
>>>>> that would change if poofters are allowed to marry.
>>>>
>>>> the point is that his performance as a member of the defence force
>>>> was not in question he was only sacked because of his beliefs
>>>
>>> and his comments about the military leadership.
>>
>> State them.
>
> While I agree with his comments it is not up to a serving ADF officer to
> make them.

I should add that it is his comments on the political situation that I
agree with not his views on Islam

[Ned Latham]

The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
> > > Felix wrote:
> > > > Rod Speed wrote:
> > > > > Petzl wrote
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You'll never believe why the Army sacked
> > > > > > this decorated intelligence officer
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo
> > > > >
> > > > > Just the usual stupid shit. There is no reason why stuff like
> > > > > that would change if poofters are allowed to marry.
> > > >
> > > > the point is that his performance as a member of the defence force
> > > > was not in question he was only sacked because of his beliefs
> > >
> > > and his comments about the military leadership.
> >
> > State them.
>
> While I agree with his comments it is not up to a serving ADF
> officer to make them.

"Serving"? He was a reservist.

> ""It is my unpleasant duty to inform you that the Australian Defence
> Force has a fundamentally broken approach to religion, an approach
> shaped partly by the triumph of bureaucratic administration over

> battlefield considerations but mostly by political correctness ?

He's right. But I don't think he puts enough emphasis on the
invidious influernce of politicians.

> "The ADF has a fundamentally flawed understanding of Islam.

And he's right there, too. Though he doesn't go the full distance.

> Just look at Iraq. I was one of the last Australians to serve there.
> All the politicians and military hierarchy were saying the withdrawal
> of Western military force was based on success. And yet al-Qaeda
> today controls more of Iraq than it ever did while Western forces

> were in the country ?"

Right again, and again too little emphasis on political interference
with the military.

> and comments I don't agree about
> "Defence gave approval for its proud uniform to be paraded through the
> streets of Sydney during the Mardi Gras, sharing the road with pimps,
> prostitutes and purveyors of moral decadence," Mr Gaynor's press release
> read.

He's right there, too. It is not within the ADF's brief to engage
in partisan politics.

> "The supposedly apolitical ADF is now marching to the beat of a very
> political tune, drummed up by those who demand gay marriage and take
> pleasure in ridiculing Christianity.

He's right again. The ADF should stay OUT of that.

> "Defence is bending over at every opportunity to help gay members but
> has hauled me over the coals for expressing my religious and political
> beliefs."

And again. Seems that religions aren't the only threats to religious
freedom.

> Sorry but here are strict rules on what ADF officers can say publicly
> and he breached them even after being warned.

And what about the rules regarding the ADF and political matters?

> Let's see what the High
> Court says about those rules

You should habe thought about that first, not last.

[Ned Latham]

Your history as an apologist for Islamic terrorists is well known, Ruth.
No need to hang out the flag.

[de chucka]

The ADF can make comments as an organisation to the Govoment

>
>> Let's see what the High
>> Court says about those rules
>
> You should habe thought about that first, not last.

If you knew anything about the case you would know he won his first case
on the basis that he was only a reservist and not on duty at the time
This was overturned because he broke ADF rules ( and was warned not to
continue to do so that includes a ban on posting material on social
media that is offensive towards any group based on personal attributes
including race, religion or gender.

He tried to have it both ways

[Ned Latham]

The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
< > >
> > > Sorry but here are strict rules on what ADF officers can say publicly
> > > and he breached them even after being warned.
> >
> > And what about the rules regarding the ADF and political matters?
>
> The ADF can make comments as an organisation to the Govoment

Irrelevant. The boundary condition of "what ADF officers can say
publicly" is YOURS, you weaselling cur.

> > > Let's see what the High Court says about those rules
> >

> > You should have thought about that first, not last.

>
> If you knew anything about the case you would know he won his first case
> on the basis that he was only a reservist and not on duty at the time
> This was overturned because he broke ADF rules

How do ADF rules apply if he's not a serving member?

> (and was warned not to continue to do so

Where does your parenthetic statement end, Ruth?

> that includes a ban on posting material on social media that
> is offensive towards any group based on personal attributes
> including race, religion or gender.

That ban is illegitimate.

> He tried to have it both ways

So you're not waiting for the Court to judge the matter.
How very unsurprising.

[de chucka]

On 21/09/2017 9:26 AM, Ned Latham wrote:
> The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
>> Ned Latham wrote:
>>> The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
> < > >
>>>> Sorry but here are strict rules on what ADF officers can say publicly
>>>> and he breached them even after being warned.
>>>
>>> And what about the rules regarding the ADF and political matters?
>>
>> The ADF can make comments as an organisation to the Govoment
>
> Irrelevant. The boundary condition of "what ADF officers can say
> publicly" is YOURS, you weaselling cur.

No it isn't it is all set out in the Defence Force Discipline Act DFDA
and the Public Service Act

>
>>>> Let's see what the High Court says about those rules
>>>
>>> You should have thought about that first, not last.
>>
>> If you knew anything about the case you would know he won his first case
>> on the basis that he was only a reservist and not on duty at the time
>> This was overturned because he broke ADF rules
>
> How do ADF rules apply if he's not a serving member?

They can't

>
>> (and was warned not to continue to do so
>
> Where does your parenthetic statement end, Ruth?
>
>> that includes a ban on posting material on social media that
>> is offensive towards any group based on personal attributes
>> including race, religion or gender.
>
> That ban is illegitimate.

So you're not waiting for the Court to judge the matter? How very
unsurprising.

We'll see if it goes to the HC

[Petzl]

He was a Army Chaplain "the stupid shit he spewed." was his job?

Replced by a Australian Army Iman for "the stupid shit he spewed."?
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australian-defence-force-to-get-its-first-muslim-imam-20150302-13t18l.html

>And that wont change if poofters are allowed to marry.
>

Won't matter if they don't
--
Petzl

Same Sex Marriage
It is ok to vote no.
You'll never believe why the Army sacked
this decorated intelligence officer

https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo

[Petzl]

On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 08:05:53 +1000, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

He was a Army Chaplain "the stupid shit he spewed." was his job?

Replced by a Australian Army Iman for "the stupid shit he spewed."?
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australian-defence-force-to-get-its-first-muslim-imam-20150302-13t18l.html

You think an Iman woul have better views?
--
Petzl

Same Sex Marriage
It is ok to vote no.

[de chucka]

On 21/09/2017 10:23 AM, Petzl wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 04:15:22 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:f2f14a...@mid.individual.net...
>>> On 20/09/2017 7:32 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>
>>>>> Same Sex Marriage
>>>>
>>>>> It is ok to vote no.
>>>>
>>>>> You'll never believe why the Army sacked
>>>>
>>>>> this decorated intelligence officer
>>>>
>>>> Stupidity officer, actually.
>>>>> https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo
>>>>
>>>> Just the usual stupid shit. There is no reason why stuff like that would
>>>> change if poofters are allowed to marry.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> the point is that his performance as a member of the defence force was not
>>> in question he was only sacked because of his beliefs
>>
>> No, he was sacked from the RESERVES, because of the stupid shit he spewed.
>>
> He was a Army Chaplain "the stupid shit he spewed." was his job?

He was an intelligence officer according to the reports I've read but
even if he was a chaplain he can't spew stupid shit in violation of the
ADFA and the PSA

>
> Replced by a Australian Army Iman for "the stupid shit he spewed."?
> http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australian-defence-force-to-get-its-first-muslim-imam-20150302-13t18l.html

Good thing to or don't you believe in religious freedom?

[Ned Latham]

The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
> > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
> > < > >
> > > > > Sorry but here are strict rules on what ADF officers can say
> > > > > publicly and he breached them even after being warned.
> > > >
> > > > And what about the rules regarding the ADF and political matters?
> > >
> > > The ADF can make comments as an organisation to the Govoment
> >
> > Irrelevant. The boundary condition of "what ADF officers can say
> > publicly" is YOURS, you weaselling cur.
>
> No it isn't it is all set out in the Defence Force Discipline Act DFDA
> and the Public Service Act

Quit the weaselling. The boundary condition of what they may say
was set for this exchange at PUBLICLY by you, so quit sleazing
off it. What the ADF can do as an organisation talking to the
government is irrelevant.

> > > > > Let's see what the High Court says about those rules
> > > >
> > > > You should have thought about that first, not last.
> > >
> > > If you knew anything about the case you would know he won
> > > his first case on the basis that he was only a reservist
> > > and not on duty at the time This was overturned because
> > > he broke ADF rules
> >
> > How do ADF rules apply if he's not a serving member?
>
> They can't

Then he didn't break them.

> > > that includes a ban on posting material on social media that
> > > is offensive towards any group based on personal attributes
> > > including race, religion or gender.
> >
> > That ban is illegitimate.
>
> So you're not waiting for the Court to judge the matter?

Irrelevant. weasel. Courts judge rules' applicability, not their
legitimacy.

> How very unsurprising.

Do try to think for yourse;f once in a while.

> We'll see if it goes to the HC

Seems to me he should take it as far as he needs to to get their
censors off his back. If the rules allow him to enter politics,
how can they possibly have any power over about what he says?

[Ned Latham]

The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:

> Petzl wrote:
> >
> > Replced by a Australian Army Iman for "the stupid shit he spewed."?
> > http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/
> > political-news/australian-defence-force-to-get-
> > its-first-muslim-imam-20150302-13t18l.html
>
> Good thing to or don't you believe in religious freedom?

That's not religious freedom.
>

[de chucka]

On 21/09/2017 11:04 AM, Ned Latham wrote:
> The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
>> Ned Latham wrote:
>>> The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
>>>> Ned Latham wrote:
>>>>> The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
>>> < > >
>>>>>> Sorry but here are strict rules on what ADF officers can say
>>>>>> publicly and he breached them even after being warned.
>>>>>
>>>>> And what about the rules regarding the ADF and political matters?
>>>>
>>>> The ADF can make comments as an organisation to the Govoment
>>>
>>> Irrelevant. The boundary condition of "what ADF officers can say
>>> publicly" is YOURS, you weaselling cur.
>>
>> No it isn't it is all set out in the Defence Force Discipline Act DFDA
>> and the Public Service Act
>
> Quit the weaselling. The boundary condition of what they may say
> was set for this exchange at PUBLICLY by you, so quit sleazing
> off it. What the ADF can do as an organisation talking to the
> government is irrelevant.

Ned I answer your question ""what ADF officers can say publicly" is
YOURS, you weaselling cur. What they can't say as an individual member
of the ADF is clearly set out in the ADFA and PSA. Don't like it? Get it
changed.

>
>>>>>> Let's see what the High Court says about those rules
>>>>>
>>>>> You should have thought about that first, not last.
>>>>
>>>> If you knew anything about the case you would know he won
>>>> his first case on the basis that he was only a reservist
>>>> and not on duty at the time This was overturned because
>>>> he broke ADF rules
>>>
>>> How do ADF rules apply if he's not a serving member?
>>
>> They can't
>
> Then he didn't break them.

He was a serving member, if he wasn't how could they sack him.

>
>>>> that includes a ban on posting material on social media that
>>>> is offensive towards any group based on personal attributes
>>>> including race, religion or gender.
>>>
>>> That ban is illegitimate.
>>
>> So you're not waiting for the Court to judge the matter?
>
> Irrelevant. weasel. Courts judge rules' applicability, not their
> legitimacy.

If they aren't applicable they are not legitimate

>
>> How very unsurprising.
>
> Do try to think for yourse;f once in a while.
>
>> We'll see if it goes to the HC
>
> Seems to me he should take it as far as he needs to to get their
> censors off his back.

>If the rules allow him to enter politics,
> how can they possibly have any power over about what he says?

If he was a member of the ADF when nominated and won he would be
ineligible under Sect 44 FreeVKelly

[Petzl]

On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 10:35:56 +1000, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>>>>>> this decorated intelligence officer
>>>>>
>>>>> Stupidity officer, actually.
>>>>>> https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo
>>>>>
>>>>> Just the usual stupid shit. There is no reason why stuff like that would
>>>>> change if poofters are allowed to marry.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> the point is that his performance as a member of the defence force was not
>>>> in question he was only sacked because of his beliefs
>>>
>>> No, he was sacked from the RESERVES, because of the stupid shit he spewed.
>>>
>> He was a Army Chaplain "the stupid shit he spewed." was his job?
>
>He was an intelligence officer according to the reports I've read but
>even if he was a chaplain he can't spew stupid shit in violation of the
>ADFA and the PSA

Replace by ISIS recruiter Hizb ut-Tahrir Iman "Sheikh Mohamadu Nawas
Saleem"

>>
>> Replced by a Australian Army Iman for "the stupid shit he spewed."?
>> http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australian-defence-force-to-get-its-first-muslim-imam-20150302-13t18l.html
>
>Good thing to or don't you believe in religious freedom?

Islam is not legally as a religion in Australia the legal definition
defines God as the Christian God compound redemptive name "Lord Jesus
Christ"

It's not now taught in school, but Australia's Constitutional Monarchy
places us under a legally defined God - the Christian God, whose
compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ. Following the opening
words of our Constitution, "Whereas the people of...", comes the
clause: "...humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God..."
http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html

According to our law, all our legislation and its administration is to
be interpreted in accordance with the Ten Commandments and the Bible.
This excludes non-Christians from political input. Clearly, those who
now have most influence in this country are people with no love for
Jesus Christ, or the Holy Bible.

--
Petzl
The Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived.
Like Schizophrenics, they need therapy;
Not confirmation of their delusions.
The recognized place of worship in a Christian Nation is a Christian Church.
Mosques are the recognized place of worship only in Moslem countries
Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ
Something as simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes to make them leave voluntarily and peacefully.

[Ördög]

Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> live on stage:

> Islam is not legally as a religion in Australia

Nor is any other religion.
Put up with this fact or move to a brutal theocracy of your choice.

> the legal definition
> defines God as the Christian God compound redemptive name "Lord Jesus
> Christ"

No truly "democratic country" does that crap.

Keep your retarded and completely brain dead deity delusions to your
congregation and within your otherwise devoid of any sane thought empty
skull.

> It's not now taught in school, but Australia's Constitutional Monarchy
> places us under a legally defined God

It is not taught because it is nothing but a Xtian fundy delusion
propagated only by shit stirring hate filled extremist retards like you!

Stop fucking proselytising in this newsgroups! There are no takers for
that shit!


--
Ördög
Once upon a time there was a mad Usenet hate monger called Petz who
imagined he was an actual human Xtian Abo with tanks, flame-throwers and
similar impressive war paraphernalia parked in his garage and a very
personal secret red phone line directly to ASIO HQ...

....and Usenet lived ever after his passing!

The End! (sleep well children)

[de chucka]

On 21/09/2017 12:15 PM, Petzl wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 10:35:56 +1000, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> this decorated intelligence officer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stupidity officer, actually.
>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just the usual stupid shit. There is no reason why stuff like that would
>>>>>> change if poofters are allowed to marry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> the point is that his performance as a member of the defence force was not
>>>>> in question he was only sacked because of his beliefs
>>>>
>>>> No, he was sacked from the RESERVES, because of the stupid shit he spewed.
>>>>
>>> He was a Army Chaplain "the stupid shit he spewed." was his job?
>>
>> He was an intelligence officer according to the reports I've read but
>> even if he was a chaplain he can't spew stupid shit in violation of the
>> ADFA and the PSA
>
> Replace by ISIS recruiter Hizb ut-Tahrir Iman "Sheikh Mohamadu Nawas
> Saleem"

You're a moron

>
>
>>>
>>> Replced by a Australian Army Iman for "the stupid shit he spewed."?
>>> http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australian-defence-force-to-get-its-first-muslim-imam-20150302-13t18l.html
>>
>> Good thing to or don't you believe in religious freedom?
>
> Islam is not legally as a religion in Australia

There are no legal 'religions' in Aus

[Ned Latham]

The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
> > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
> > > > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > > > The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry but here are strict rules on what ADF officers can say
> > > > > > > publicly and he breached them even after being warned.

----soace cleared for the weasel ti see what he wrote----

> > Quit the weaselling. The boundary condition of what they may say
> > was set for this exchange at PUBLICLY by you, so quit sleazing
> > off it. What the ADF can do as an organisation talking to the
> > government is irrelevant.
>
> Ned I answer your question ""what ADF officers can say publicly" is
> YOURS,

No you didn't, you lying maggor. You ended your OP with an editorial,
which is still here. Look above.

> you weaselling cur.

Is parrot what I say to you all you can do?

> > > > How do ADF rules apply if he's not a serving member?
> > >
> > > They can't
> >
> > Then he didn't break them.
>
> He was a serving member, if he wasn't how could they sack him.

He was a reservist, How is that a serving memever?

> > > > > that includes a ban on posting material on social media that
> > > > > is offensive towards any group based on personal attributes
> > > > > including race, religion or gender.
> > > >
> > > > That ban is illegitimate.
> > >
> > > So you're not waiting for the Court to judge the matter?
> >
> > Irrelevant. weasel. Courts judge rules' applicability, not their
> > legitimacy.
>
> If they aren't applicable they are not legitimate

Crap. Laws against murder areb't applicable in fraud cases, but
they are quite legitimate.

> > > How very unsurprising.
> >
> > Do try to think for yourse;f once in a while.
> >
> > > We'll see if it goes to the HC
> >
> > Seems to me he should take it as far as he needs to to get their
> > censors off his back.
> >
> > If the rules allow him to enter politics,
> > how can they possibly have any power over about what he says?
>
> If he was a member of the ADF when nominated and won he would be
> ineligible under Sect 44 FreeVKelly

So he wasn't a member of the ADF.

[Ned Latham]

Tne ugly sow's lapdog
(you know, the cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög")
spewed forth its usual obsessive ranting...
>
> No truly "democratic country"
exists.

Even the pretences are obviously nothing like the real thing.

But then, it takes a certain modicum of brainpower to appreciate
the differences between demovracy and the farcial shams that are
descrided as democracy by the establishment and their flunkies
and whores.

When are you going to get that snail-brain implant, moron?

[de chucka]

On 21/09/2017 3:58 PM, Ned Latham wrote:
> The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
>> Ned Latham wrote:
>>> The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
>>>> Ned Latham wrote:
>>>>> The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
>>>>>> Ned Latham wrote:
>>>>>>> The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry but here are strict rules on what ADF officers can say
>>>>>>>> publicly and he breached them even after being warned.
>
> ----soace cleared for the weasel ti see what he wrote----
>
>>> Quit the weaselling. The boundary condition of what they may say
>>> was set for this exchange at PUBLICLY by you, so quit sleazing
>>> off it. What the ADF can do as an organisation talking to the
>>> government is irrelevant.
>>
>> Ned I answer your question ""what ADF officers can say publicly" is
>> YOURS,

>
> No you didn't, you lying maggor.

I'll answer it again

it is all set out in the Defence Force Discipline Act DFDA and the
Public Service Act

You ended your OP with an editorial,
> which is still here. Look above.

my OP was this "Is this the bloke? "Reservist major Bernard Gaynor was
dismissed in 2013 for making “offensive and divisive” statements about
homosexual and transgender people and criticising Muslims.

" Gaynor was also dumped as a Queensland Senate candidate for Katter’s
Australia party over his comments, and was recently affiliated with the
anti-Islam Australian Liberty Alliance party."

wtf r u going on about

>
>> you weaselling cur.
>
> Is parrot what I say to you all you can do?
>
>>>>> How do ADF rules apply if he's not a serving member?
>>>>
>>>> They can't
>>>
>>> Then he didn't break them.
>>
>> He was a serving member, if he wasn't how could they sack him.
>
> He was a reservist, How is that a serving memever?

You are trolling aren't you? Please say you're trolling nobody could be
that stupid

>
>>>>>> that includes a ban on posting material on social media that
>>>>>> is offensive towards any group based on personal attributes
>>>>>> including race, religion or gender.
>>>>>
>>>>> That ban is illegitimate.
>>>>
>>>> So you're not waiting for the Court to judge the matter?
>>>
>>> Irrelevant. weasel. Courts judge rules' applicability, not their
>>> legitimacy.
>>
>> If they aren't applicable they are not legitimate
>
> Crap. Laws against murder areb't applicable in fraud cases, but
> they are quite legitimate.
>
>>>> How very unsurprising.
>>>
>>> Do try to think for yourse;f once in a while.
>>>
>>>> We'll see if it goes to the HC
>>>
>>> Seems to me he should take it as far as he needs to to get their
>>> censors off his back.
>>>
>>> If the rules allow him to enter politics,
>>> how can they possibly have any power over about what he says?
>>
>> If he was a member of the ADF when nominated and won he would be
>> ineligible under Sect 44 FreeVKelly
>
> So he wasn't a member of the ADF.

Of course he was, you know that rank he had and the tours of Iraq. Do
you think he did that as a private citizen? :-)
>

[Ned Latham]

The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:

> Petzl wrote:
>>
>> Replace by ISIS recruiter Hizb ut-Tahrir Iman "Sheikh Mohamadu Nawas
>> Saleem"
>
> You're a moron

Quit projecting, moron.

> There are no legal 'religions' in Aus

Wrong again, moron. Even Scientology is legally a religion in
Australia.

[de chucka]

As you know the High Court defines religion as “a complex of beliefs and
practices which point to a set of values and an understanding of the
meaning of existence” As Scientology fits this def'n it is a religion
and is not illegal, however as all religions are legal your point is
correct but rather moot.

[Ned Latham]

>rd who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
> > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
> > > > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > > > The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka"
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry but here are strict rules on what ADF officers can
> > > > > > > say
> > > > > > > publicly and he breached them even after being warned.

----soace cleared for the weasel ti see what he wrote----

> > Quit the weaselling. The boundary condition of what they may say
> > was set for this exchange at PUBLICLY by you, so quit sleazing
> > off it. What the ADF can do as an organisation talking to the
> > government is irrelevant.
>
> Ned I answer your question ""what ADF officers can say publicly" is
> YOURS,

No you didn't, you lying maggor. You ended your OP with an editorial,

which is still here. Look above.

> you weaselling cur.

Is parrot what I say to you all you can do?

> > > > How do ADF rules apply if he's not a serving member?
> > >
> > > They can't
> >
> > Then he didn't break them.
>
> He was a serving member, if he wasn't how could they sack him.

He was a reservist, How is that a serving memever?

[Petzl]

On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 01:09:24 -0500, Ned Latham
<nedl...@woden.valhalla.oz> wrote:

>The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
>> Petzl wrote:
>>>
>>> Replace by ISIS recruiter Hizb ut-Tahrir Iman "Sheikh Mohamadu Nawas
>>> Saleem"
>>
>> You're a moron
>
>Quit projecting, moron.
>

he is obscene and offensive

>> There are no legal 'religions' in Aus
>
>Wrong again, moron. Even Scientology is legally a religion in
>Australia.

It's a legal tax dodge not a religion.

[Ned Latham]

The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
> > > Petzl wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Replace by ISIS recruiter Hizb ut-Tahrir Iman "Sheikh Mohamadu Nawas
> > > > Saleem"
> > >
> > > You're a moron
> >
> > Quit projecting, moron.
> >
> > > There are no legal 'religions' in Aus
> >
> > Wrong again, moron. Even Scientology is legally a religion in
> > Australia.
>

> As you know the High Court defines religion as ?a complex of beliefs and

> practices which point to a set of values and an understanding of the

> meaning of existence? As Scientology fits this def'n it is a religion

> and is not illegal, however as all religions are legal your point is
> correct but rather moot.

Is that supoosed to be an admission of your error?

[de chucka]

snip
If you're only going to snip my replies it is useless trying to educate you

[Petzl]

On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 16:08:56 +1000, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Gaynor was sacked/dismissed for his anti-gay stance not for critising
Islam

--
Petzl
Australia's parliament needs to obey our Constitutions, the judiciary must apply the law!
Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian Commonwealth’.

[de chucka]

On 21/09/2017 4:30 PM, Petzl wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 01:09:24 -0500, Ned Latham
> <nedl...@woden.valhalla.oz> wrote:
>
>> The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
>>> Petzl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Replace by ISIS recruiter Hizb ut-Tahrir Iman "Sheikh Mohamadu Nawas
>>>> Saleem"
>>>
>>> You're a moron
>>
>> Quit projecting, moron.
>>
> he is obscene and offensive
>
>>> There are no legal 'religions' in Aus
>>
>> Wrong again, moron. Even Scientology is legally a religion in
>> Australia.
>
> It's a legal tax dodge not a religion.

Take it up with the High Court as it meets their def'n

[Ned Latham]

Petzl wrote:
> Ned Latham

> >The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
> > > Petzl wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Replace by ISIS recruiter Hizb ut-Tahrir Iman "Sheikh Mohamadu Nawas
> > > > Saleem"
> > >
> > > You're a moron
> >
> > Quit projecting, moron.
>
> he is obscene and offensive
>
> > > There are no legal 'religions' in Aus
> >
> > Wrong again, moron. Even Scientology is legally a religion in
> > Australia.
>
> It's a legal tax dodge not a religion.

Well, yair, but "legally", as in "in the eyes of the law"...

[Petzl]

Federal is not allowed to define what a religon is that is up to the
states.
http://www6.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/legis/cth/consol_act/coaca430/s116.html
he Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion,
or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free
exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a
qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.

The state of Victoria Supreme_Court
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_in_Australia#1983_Victorian_Supreme_Court
"Introduction of a service, ceremonies and other external indicia of a
religion is no more than a cynical desire to present Scientology as
what it is not for such mundane purposes as acquiring the protection
of constitutional guarantees of freedom of religion or obtaining
exemption from the burden of taxing laws... The creed and services
described in a 1959 booklet called Ceremonies of The Founding Church
of Scientology which had been published in America played absolutely
no part in the teaching or practice of Scientology until the late
nineteen sixties; These so-called ceremonies were devised and
published as a device to enable, with such attendant advantages as
would thereby accrue, Scientology to be paraded as a church in the
United States and should properly be described as a masquerade and a
charade.".

[Trevor]

On 21/09/2017 2:18 PM, de chucka wrote:
> There are no legal 'religions' in Aus

Sure there are, how else could they get tax exemptions. The ones that
don't aren't legally recognised.

Trevor.

[Ned Latham]

The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:

Channelling yoiurself again, Ruth?

[Rod Speed]

"Petzl" <pet...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ua16sc9fun0mcou9m...@4ax.com...

> On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 04:15:22 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:f2f14a...@mid.individual.net...
>>> On 20/09/2017 7:32 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>
>>>>> Same Sex Marriage
>>>>
>>>>> It is ok to vote no.
>>>>
>>>>> You'll never believe why the Army sacked
>>>>
>>>>> this decorated intelligence officer
>>>>
>>>> Stupidity officer, actually.
>>>>> https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo
>>>>
>>>> Just the usual stupid shit. There is no reason why stuff like that
>>>> would
>>>> change if poofters are allowed to marry.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> the point is that his performance as a member of the defence force was
>>> not
>>> in question he was only sacked because of his beliefs
>>
>>No, he was sacked from the RESERVES, because of the stupid shit he spewed.

> He was a Army Chaplain

Like hell he was.

> "the stupid shit he spewed." was his job?

Another bare faced lie with the rabid bigotry that he was kicked out for.

> Replced by a Australian Army Iman

Another bare faced lie.

[Ördög]

Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> live on stage:

> de chucka
>>> de chucka
>>>>> de chucka
>>>>>>> de chucka
>>>>>>>>> de chucka

>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry but here are strict rules on what ADF officers can say
>>>>>>>>>> publicly and he breached them even after being warned.

>>>> Ned I answer your question ""what ADF officers can say publicly" is
>>>> YOURS,

> I'll answer it again
>> it is all set out in the Defence Force Discipline Act DFDA and the
>> Public Service Act You ended your OP with an editorial,
>>

>> my OP was this "Is this the bloke? "Reservist major Bernard Gaynor was
>> dismissed in 2013 for making offensive and divisive statements about
>> homosexual and transgender people and criticising Muslims.
>>
>>" Gaynor was also dumped as a Queensland Senate candidate for Katter's
>> Australia party over his comments, and was recently affiliated with the
>> anti-Islam Australian Liberty Alliance party."'
>>wtf r u going on about
>
> Gaynor was sacked/dismissed for his anti-gay stance not for critising
> Islam

WTF? Your one track mind converts anything and everything said into
"Islam" wanking.
Obviously your reading comprehension is less than zero, Petz dear!
Get your nursie to read the above paragraphs posted by Dechucka quite
slowly and get your shrink to translate that content for you into
"moron", the only language you can actually understand.

He has clearly explained the reason for the dismissal.
Obviously such bigoted and undisciplined creeps like that one are even
unsuitable for the quite right wing Katter Pary. However within the
extremist ultra right he is very much at home. Surprise
...NOT!

>>>
>>>>>> They can't

>>>> He was a serving member, if he wasn't how could they sack him.
>>

>> You are trolling aren't you? Please say you're trolling nobody could be
>> that stupid
>>>
>>>>>>>> that includes a ban on posting material on social media that is
>>>>>>>> offensive towards any group based on personal attributes
>>>>>>>> including race, religion or gender.
>>>>>>

>>>>>> So you're not waiting for the Court to judge the matter?
>>>>

>>>> If they aren't applicable they are not legitimate

>>>>>> We'll see if it goes to the HC
>>>>>

>>>> If he was a member of the ADF when nominated and won he would be
>>>> ineligible under Sect 44 FreeVKelly

>> Of course he was, you know that rank he had and the tours of Iraq. Do
>> you think he did that as a private citizen? :-)



--

Ördög

"Ut sementem feceris, ita metes"(Cicero)

[Petzl]

On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 21:54:26 +0000 (UTC), Ördög <de...@hell.net>
wrote:

>>
>> Gaynor was sacked/dismissed for his anti-gay stance not for critising
>> Islam
>
>WTF? Your one track mind converts anything and everything said into
>"Islam" wanking.
>Obviously your reading comprehension is less than zero, Petz dear!
>Get your nursie to read the above paragraphs posted by Dechucka quite
>slowly and get your shrink to translate that content for you into
>"moron", the only language you can actually understand.
>
>He has clearly explained the reason for the dismissal.
>Obviously such bigoted and undisciplined creeps like that one are even
>unsuitable for the quite right wing Katter Pary. However within the
>extremist ultra right he is very much at home. Surprise
>...NOT!

The "Face" of todays army?
https://saboteur365.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/transgender-in-military2.jpg
--
Petzl

Same Sex Marriage
It is ok to vote no.
You'll never believe why the Army sacked
this decorated intelligence officer

https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo

[Petzl]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 06:03:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"

<rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>"Petzl" <pet...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:ua16sc9fun0mcou9m...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 04:15:22 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message
>>>news:f2f14a...@mid.individual.net...
>>>> On 20/09/2017 7:32 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>> Same Sex Marriage
>>>>>
>>>>>> It is ok to vote no.
>>>>>
>>>>>> You'll never believe why the Army sacked
>>>>>
>>>>>> this decorated intelligence officer
>>>>>
>>>>> Stupidity officer, actually.
>>>>>> https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo
>>>>>
>>>>> Just the usual stupid shit. There is no reason why stuff like that
>>>>> would
>>>>> change if poofters are allowed to marry.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> the point is that his performance as a member of the defence force was
>>>> not
>>>> in question he was only sacked because of his beliefs
>>>
>>>No, he was sacked from the RESERVES, because of the stupid shit he spewed.
>
>> He was a Army Chaplain
>
>Like hell he was.
>

Yes as a reservist he was also a Chaplain
He was being attacked by LBTG activists now in army
The face now running Australian Army
https://saboteur365.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/transgender-in-military2.jpg

>> "the stupid shit he spewed." was his job?
>
>Another bare faced lie with the rabid bigotry that he was kicked out for.
>
>> Replced by a Australian Army Iman
>
>Another bare faced lie.
>

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australian-defence-force-to-get-its-first-muslim-imam-20150302-13t18l.html
http://tinyurl.com/qbghe9p
--
Petzl

Same Sex Marriage
It is ok to vote no.
You'll never believe why the Army sacked
this decorated intelligence officer

https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo

[de chucka]

He was an army intelligence officer

[de chucka]

snip

> The "Face" of todays army?
> https://saboteur365.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/transgender-in-military2.jpg

Your jacuzzi partner?

[Ördög]

de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com> live on stage:

Here you go again, Dechucka trying again to confuse poor Petz with
facts...
How uncivilised of you!

;)

[felix]

On 21/09/2017 7:31 AM, de chucka wrote:

> On 21/09/2017 7:19 AM, Ned Latham wrote:
>> The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:

>>> Felix wrote:
>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>>>

>>>>>> You'll never believe why the Army sacked
>>>>>>   this decorated intelligence officer
>>>>>>

>>>>>> https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo
>>>>>
>>>>> Just the usual stupid shit. There is no reason why stuff like
>>>>> that would change if poofters are allowed to marry.
>>>>
>>>> the point is that his performance as a member of the defence force
>>>> was not in question he was only sacked because of his beliefs
>>>

>>> and his comments about the military leadership.
>>
>> State them.
>
> While I agree with his comments it is not up to a serving ADF officer
> to make them.

> ""It is my unpleasant duty to inform you that the Australian Defence
> Force has a fundamentally broken approach to religion, an approach
> shaped partly by the triumph of bureaucratic administration over
> battlefield considerations but mostly by political correctness …
>
> "The ADF has a fundamentally flawed understanding of Islam. Just look
> at Iraq. I was one of the last Australians to serve there. All the
> politicians and military hierarchy were saying the withdrawal of
> Western military force was based on success. And yet al-Qaeda today
> controls more of Iraq than it ever did while Western forces were in
> the country …"
>
> and comments I don't agree about
> "Defence gave approval for its proud uniform to be paraded through the
> streets of Sydney during the Mardi Gras, sharing the road with pimps,
> prostitutes and purveyors of moral decadence," Mr Gaynor's press
> release read.

I do. as he says in the video it contravenes the Army's own regulations

>
> "The supposedly apolitical ADF is now marching to the beat of a very
> political tune, drummed up by those who demand gay marriage and take
> pleasure in ridiculing Christianity.
>
> "Defence is bending over at every opportunity to help gay members but
> has hauled me over the coals for expressing my religious and political
> beliefs."


a cite would have been helpful

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/christian-army-officer-bernie-gaynor-pays-the-price-for-marching-out-of-step-with-top-generals-20140709-zt1iq.html

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/criticising-islam-gays-sets-army-major-up-for-a-fall-20140316-34va7.html

http://bernardgaynor.com.au/press-release-defence-shows-hypocrisy-with-gay-officer/

http://bernardgaynor.com.au/the-australian-defence-force-islam/

>
> Sorry but here are strict rules on what ADF officers can say publicly

> and he breached them even after being warned. Let's see what the High
> Court says about those rules


yes, and him saying he spoke as a civilian does not negate them. he's
still a serving member in or out of uniform



--
"I used to be forgettful and indecisive. Don't
remember when. Think I was. Maybe not."

[felix]

On 21/09/2017 8:38 AM, Ned Latham wrote:
> The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
>> The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
>>> Ned Latham wrote:
>>>> The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
>>>>> Felix wrote:
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>>>>> You'll never believe why the Army sacked
>>>>>>>> this decorated intelligence officer
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo
>>>>>>> Just the usual stupid shit. There is no reason why stuff like
>>>>>>> that would change if poofters are allowed to marry.
>>>>>> the point is that his performance as a member of the defence force
>>>>>> was not in question he was only sacked because of his beliefs
>>>>> and his comments about the military leadership.
>>>> State them.
>>> While I agree with his comments it is not up to a serving ADF officer to
>>> make them.

>> I should add that it is his comments on the political situation that I
>> agree with not his views on Islam
> Your history as an apologist for Islamic terrorists is well known, Ruth.
> No need to hang out the flag.


is it black with white squiggles on it?..

[felix]

On 21/09/2017 8:35 AM, Ned Latham wrote:
> The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
>> Ned Latham wrote:
>>> The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
>>>> Felix wrote:
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>>>> You'll never believe why the Army sacked
>>>>>>> this decorated intelligence officer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo
>>>>>> Just the usual stupid shit. There is no reason why stuff like
>>>>>> that would change if poofters are allowed to marry.
>>>>> the point is that his performance as a member of the defence force
>>>>> was not in question he was only sacked because of his beliefs
>>>> and his comments about the military leadership.
>>> State them.
>> While I agree with his comments it is not up to a serving ADF
>> officer to make them.

> "Serving"? He was a reservist.


yeah, reservists are members too

>
>> ""It is my unpleasant duty to inform you that the Australian Defence
>> Force has a fundamentally broken approach to religion, an approach
>> shaped partly by the triumph of bureaucratic administration over

>> battlefield considerations but mostly by political correctness ?
> He's right. But I don't think he puts enough emphasis on the
> invidious influernce of politicians.

>
>> "The ADF has a fundamentally flawed understanding of Islam.

> And he's right there, too. Though he doesn't go the full distance.

>
>> Just look at Iraq. I was one of the last Australians to serve there.
>> All the politicians and military hierarchy were saying the withdrawal
>> of Western military force was based on success. And yet al-Qaeda
>> today controls more of Iraq than it ever did while Western forces

>> were in the country ?"
> Right again, and again too little emphasis on political interference
> with the military.

>
>> and comments I don't agree about
>> "Defence gave approval for its proud uniform to be paraded through the
>> streets of Sydney during the Mardi Gras, sharing the road with pimps,
>> prostitutes and purveyors of moral decadence," Mr Gaynor's press release
>> read.

> He's right there, too. It is not within the ADF's brief to engage
> in partisan politics.

>
>> "The supposedly apolitical ADF is now marching to the beat of a very
>> political tune, drummed up by those who demand gay marriage and take
>> pleasure in ridiculing Christianity.

> He's right again. The ADF should stay OUT of that.

>
>> "Defence is bending over at every opportunity to help gay members but
>> has hauled me over the coals for expressing my religious and political
>> beliefs."

> And again. Seems that religions aren't the only threats to religious
> freedom.

>
>> Sorry but here are strict rules on what ADF officers can say publicly
>> and he breached them even after being warned.

> And what about the rules regarding the ADF and political matters?

agree with your remarks

[felix]

here's yours http://cdn1.dailypost.ng/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/ISIS.jpg

[felix]

On 21/09/2017 10:26 AM, Petzl wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 08:05:53 +1000, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 21/09/2017 7:31 AM, de chucka wrote:

>>> On 21/09/2017 7:19 AM, Ned Latham wrote:
>>>> The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:
>>>>> Felix wrote:
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>>>>> You'll never believe why the Army sacked
>>>>>>>> this decorated intelligence officer
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo
>>>>>>> Just the usual stupid shit. There is no reason why stuff like
>>>>>>> that would change if poofters are allowed to marry.
>>>>>> the point is that his performance as a member of the defence force
>>>>>> was not in question he was only sacked because of his beliefs
>>>>> and his comments about the military leadership.
>>>> State them.
>>> While I agree with his comments it is not up to a serving ADF officer to
>>> make them.

>> I should add that it is his comments on the political situation that I
>> agree with not his views on Islam

> He was a Army Chaplain "the stupid shit he spewed." was his job?
>
> Replced by a Australian Army Iman for "the stupid shit he spewed."?
> http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australian-defence-force-to-get-its-first-muslim-imam-20150302-13t18l.html
>
> You think an Iman woul have better views?


his comments about Islam and the Army's attitude to it are spot on. some
links

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/christian-army-officer-bernie-gaynor-pays-the-price-for-marching-out-of-step-with-top-generals-20140709-zt1iq.html

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/criticising-islam-gays-sets-army-major-up-for-a-fall-20140316-34va7.html

http://bernardgaynor.com.au/press-release-defence-shows-hypocrisy-with-gay-officer/

http://bernardgaynor.com.au/the-australian-defence-force-islam/

[de chucka]

On 22/09/2017 10:28 AM, felix wrote:
> On 22/09/2017 9:29 AM, de chucka wrote:
>> snip
>>> The "Face" of todays army?
>>> https://saboteur365.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/transgender-in-military2.jpg
>>>
>>
>> Your jacuzzi partner?
>>
> here's yours http://cdn1.dailypost.ng/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/ISIS.jpg

I don't have a jacuzzi

[felix]

On 20/09/2017 5:06 PM, Trevor wrote:
> On 20/09/2017 5:02 PM, Petzl wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 16:49:14 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
>> There are others sacked for supporting the no vote
>> http://www.2gb.com/podcast/same-sex-marriage-and-biased-public-servants/
>
> Amazing people not only believe 2GB rubbish but would quote it as a
> reference and expect others to believe it! :-)

no belief ever changed any fact or ever will. if it's true it's true

>
> Trevor.

[de chucka]

Mine is the Southern cross on the fly, Federation star on the lower
hoist and the butchers apron in the canton

[de chucka]

Which ones?

snip

[Petzl]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 10:28:05 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
wrote:

>On 22/09/2017 9:29 AM, de chucka wrote:
>> snip
>>> The "Face" of todays army?
>>> https://saboteur365.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/transgender-in-military2.jpg
>>>
>>
>> Your jacuzzi partner?
>>
>here's yours http://cdn1.dailypost.ng/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/ISIS.jpg

Good way to get complete security is put up a couple of Pakistani
flags, buy online a ISIS flag, put them up around home and you have
complete security 24/7.

[de chucka]

On 22/09/2017 10:45 AM, Petzl wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 10:28:05 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On 22/09/2017 9:29 AM, de chucka wrote:
>>> snip
>>>> The "Face" of todays army?
>>>> https://saboteur365.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/transgender-in-military2.jpg
>>>>
>>>
>>> Your jacuzzi partner?
>>>
>> here's yours http://cdn1.dailypost.ng/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/ISIS.jpg
>
>
> Good way to get complete security is put up a couple of Pakistani
> flags, buy online a ISIS flag, put them up around home and you have
> complete security 24/7.

Come on pez give it a go, please please

[Ned Latham]

Ge does sometimes seem that way, doesn't he?

[Ned Latham]

The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote:

> Petzl wrote:
> >
> > Good way to get complete security is put up a couple of Pakistani
> > flags, buy online a ISIS flag, put them up around home and you have
> > complete security 24/7.
>
> Come on pez give it a go, please please

Get yourself am irony implant, moron.

[felix]

see the video 1.02 to 1.16

>
> snip

[de chucka]

So the ADF followed the rules. If he'd done the same and also followed
orders he wouldn't have been cashiered

[Petzl]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 10:34:42 +1000, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Mines always on as is my cappuccino machine, put in emergency
generator to keep everything going.All because "our" Governments
refusal to build new power stations. NSW needs at least another 2000MW
power station.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-14/solar-batteries-like-tesla-exploding-in-popularity/8259830

Like no dams policy which had Sydney out of water we are now facing
power shortages.

[de chucka]

On 22/09/2017 11:54 AM, Petzl wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 10:34:42 +1000, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 22/09/2017 10:28 AM, felix wrote:
>>> On 22/09/2017 9:29 AM, de chucka wrote:
>>>> snip
>>>>> The "Face" of todays army?
>>>>> https://saboteur365.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/transgender-in-military2.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your jacuzzi partner?
>>>>
>>> here's yours http://cdn1.dailypost.ng/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/ISIS.jpg
>>
>> I don't have a jacuzzi
>
> Mines always on as is my cappuccino machine,

What a waste of money,my Gaggia gets turned off when not in use and it
is better than yours because it doesn't just make cappuccinos.

put in emergency
> generator to keep everything going.

Went off-grid ages ago

snip

[Rod Speed]

"Petzl" <pet...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:phh8sclkqg5ju5d6i...@4ax.com...

Like hell he ever was and the last thing the army
needs is a rabid bigot for a chaplain anyway.

> He was being attacked by LBTG activists now in army

Because he has always been a rabid bigot
who should have been kicked out long ago.

>>> "the stupid shit he spewed." was his job?
>>
>>Another bare faced lie with the rabid bigotry that he was kicked out for.
>>
>>> Replced by a Australian Army Iman
>>
>>Another bare faced lie.
>>
> http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australian-defence-force-to-get-its-first-muslim-imam-20150302-13t18l.html
> http://tinyurl.com/qbghe9p

He wasn't REPLACED by that one, you rabid bigot.

[felix]

On 22/09/2017 11:54 AM, Petzl wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 10:34:42 +1000, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 22/09/2017 10:28 AM, felix wrote:
>>> On 22/09/2017 9:29 AM, de chucka wrote:
>>>> snip
>>>>> The "Face" of todays army?
>>>>> https://saboteur365.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/transgender-in-military2.jpg
>>>>>
>>>> Your jacuzzi partner?
>>>>
>>> here's yours http://cdn1.dailypost.ng/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/ISIS.jpg
>> I don't have a jacuzzi
> Mines always on as is my cappuccino machine, put in emergency
> generator to keep everything going.All because "our" Governments
> refusal to build new power stations. NSW needs at least another 2000MW
> power station.
> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-14/solar-batteries-like-tesla-exploding-in-popularity/8259830
>
> Like no dams policy which had Sydney out of water we are now facing
> power shortages.

yep. stupid greens bullshit

[Petzl]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:19:47 +1000, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>

wrote:

>On 22/09/2017 11:54 AM, Petzl wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 10:34:42 +1000, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 22/09/2017 10:28 AM, felix wrote:
>>>> On 22/09/2017 9:29 AM, de chucka wrote:
>>>>> snip
>>>>>> The "Face" of todays army?
>>>>>> https://saboteur365.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/transgender-in-military2.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Your jacuzzi partner?
>>>>>
>>>> here's yours http://cdn1.dailypost.ng/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/ISIS.jpg
>>>
>>> I don't have a jacuzzi
>>
>> Mines always on as is my cappuccino machine,
>
>What a waste of money,my Gaggia gets turned off when not in use and it
>is better than yours because it doesn't just make cappuccinos.
>

I like mine in a big 400 ml mug, your cups are too small like your
tiny penis!

Usually buy a new one each year, but yes it will make other types of
coffee if one wants or can be bothered my girls make it for me.

>> put in emergency
>> generator to keep everything going.
>
>Went off-grid ages ago
>
>snip

So am I, I suppose, if power ever fails gas fueled generator starts.
--
Petzl
ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!
Or you are voting for Islam and Sharia.


For Turnbull, ‘multi-faith’ only means Islam
https://is.gd/bunwYB

[Petzl]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 11:26:56 +1000, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

By george you have it?
--
Petzl
"To Be A Politician You Need Three Things. Be a Good Liar, A Great Cheat
and a Brilliant Thief." Malcolm Turnbull

Malcolm applied to be a Senator for the Lobor party
https://spectator.com.au/2017/01/turnbulls-labor-dream/

Its time for Malcolm to kick some arse....his own!!!

Australian MPs now among the highest paid in the world
http://www.news.com.au/national/australian-mps-now-among-the-highest-paid-in-the-world/story-fncynjr2-1226681596923
https://is.gd/nOyfr9

Turnbull draing the swamp!
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/cc61ccd180d35f931bae6ced5e4febaf?width=1024

[Fran]

On 21/09/2017 4:33 PM, de chucka wrote:
> snip
> If you're only going to snip my replies it is useless trying to educate you

And it'd be useless anyway if you're talkgina bout Ned the Knob. He's a
fully paid up, card carrying idiot.

[felix]

??? he says the ADF didn't follow their own rules

> If he'd done the same and also followed orders he wouldn't have been
> cashiered
>

[de chucka]

He said lot's of things and thus got cashiered

[felix]

doesn't matter what he said or you say, only what's right or wrong

[de chucka]

Yep and Yep

[de chucka]

On 22/09/2017 1:36 PM, Petzl wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:19:47 +1000, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 22/09/2017 11:54 AM, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 10:34:42 +1000, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 22/09/2017 10:28 AM, felix wrote:
>>>>> On 22/09/2017 9:29 AM, de chucka wrote:
>>>>>> snip
>>>>>>> The "Face" of todays army?
>>>>>>> https://saboteur365.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/transgender-in-military2.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your jacuzzi partner?
>>>>>>
>>>>> here's yours http://cdn1.dailypost.ng/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/ISIS.jpg
>>>>
>>>> I don't have a jacuzzi
>>>
>>> Mines always on as is my cappuccino machine,
>>
>> What a waste of money,my Gaggia gets turned off when not in use and it
>> is better than yours because it doesn't just make cappuccinos.
>>
> I like mine in a big 400 ml mug, your cups are too small like your
> tiny penis!
>
> Usually buy a new one each year,

Buy a decent one and you won't have to

but yes it will make other types of
> coffee if one wants or can be bothered my girls make it for me.

OK OK I see the rehab buy a new coffee machine each year and the nurse
brings you your coffee

>
>>> put in emergency
>>> generator to keep everything going.
>>
>> Went off-grid ages ago
>>
>> snip
>
> So am I, I suppose, if power ever fails gas fueled generator starts.

Gas? :-)

[Petzl]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 14:40:42 +1000, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>

wrote:

>On 22/09/2017 1:36 PM, Petzl wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:19:47 +1000, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 22/09/2017 11:54 AM, Petzl wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 10:34:42 +1000, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 22/09/2017 10:28 AM, felix wrote:
>>>>>> On 22/09/2017 9:29 AM, de chucka wrote:
>>>>>>> snip
>>>>>>>> The "Face" of todays army?
>>>>>>>> https://saboteur365.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/transgender-in-military2.jpg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your jacuzzi partner?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> here's yours http://cdn1.dailypost.ng/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/ISIS.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have a jacuzzi
>>>>
>>>> Mines always on as is my cappuccino machine,
>>>
>>> What a waste of money,my Gaggia gets turned off when not in use and it
>>> is better than yours because it doesn't just make cappuccinos.
>>>
>> I like mine in a big 400 ml mug, your cups are too small like your
>> tiny penis!
>>
>> Usually buy a new one each year,
>
>
>Buy a decent one and you won't have to
>

Hygiene is important to me.

>>but yes it will make other types of
>> coffee if one wants or can be bothered my girls make it for me.
>
>OK OK I see the rehab buy a new coffee machine each year and the nurse
>brings you your coffee
>
>>
>>>> put in emergency
>>>> generator to keep everything going.
>>>
>>> Went off-grid ages ago
>>>
>>> snip
>>
>> So am I, I suppose, if power ever fails gas fueled generator starts.
>
>Gas? :-)

Runs on natural gas

[de chucka]

Getting nursie to clean it

>
>>> but yes it will make other types of
>>> coffee if one wants or can be bothered my girls make it for me.
>>
>> OK OK I see the rehab buy a new coffee machine each year and the nurse
>> brings you your coffee
>>
>>>
>>>>> put in emergency
>>>>> generator to keep everything going.
>>>>
>>>> Went off-grid ages ago
>>>>
>>>> snip
>>>
>>> So am I, I suppose, if power ever fails gas fueled generator starts.
>>
>> Gas? :-)
>
> Runs on natural gas

Cheaper to get solar panels and a battery back-up
>

[Trevor]

On 22/09/2017 9:07 AM, Petzl wrote:
> The "Face" of todays army?
> https://saboteur365.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/transgender-in-military2.jpg

THAT should scare the hell out of the enemy!
:-)

Trevor.

[Trevor]

On 22/09/2017 10:38 AM, felix wrote:
> On 20/09/2017 5:06 PM, Trevor wrote:
>> On 20/09/2017 5:02 PM, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 16:49:14 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
>>> There are others sacked for supporting the no vote
>>> http://www.2gb.com/podcast/same-sex-marriage-and-biased-public-servants/
>>
>> Amazing people not only believe 2GB rubbish but would quote it as a
>> reference and expect others to believe it! :-)
>
> no belief ever changed any fact or ever will. if it's true it's true

Absolutely, but something so rare on 2GB as to not be worth the effort
checking though. A broken clock is right far more often. :-(

Trevor.

[Rod Speed]

"de chucka" <Dech...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:zI-dnblQwfC0AVnE...@westnet.com.au...

Wrong, as always.

[de chucka]

have you any idea of the cost of a gas fuel generator?

[Petzl]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 16:38:59 +1000, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>>>>>> So am I, I suppose, if power ever fails gas fueled generator starts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gas? :-)
>>>>
>>>> Runs on natural gas
>>>
>>> Cheaper to get solar panels and a battery back-up
>>
>> Wrong, as always.
>
>
>have you any idea of the cost of a gas fuel generator?

3K installed
http://www.kohlergenerators.com/home-generators/products/8RESV

[Petzl]

Most believe it's "our" government that are the enemy!
--
Petzl

You're not being tolerant. You're not being inclusive. You're not being open-minded... You're being conquered."
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGAx-BzXYAEdLcp.jpg

Italian immigration was an advance point for Australia, followed by Greek immigration, then Asian all provided positive growth, benefits.

The failure has and is Moslem immigration where over 30 years they are planted in West Sydney it is a proven disaster which is forbidden to be spoken about.
Reality is
This is a Islamic invasion/war by Stealth!

Moslems are also history killers and twist historical facts and truth they call taqiyya kitman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya
Facts are:-
This Trojan horse invasion by Moslems was invented by Mohammed when he and his marauding followers fled Mecca in AD 622 to Yathrib now called Medina. Claiming “refugee status”
Medina welcomed them as “our” government does today!

ISIS is doing nothing that the Moslem’s “Prophet” Mohammed wouldn’t do!
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/05/the_greatest_murder_machine_in_history.html

Mohammad himself was once a (claimed) refugee taken in by the Jewish run city of Medina, then called Yathrib (fleeing Mecca AD 622).
https://www.britannica.com/event/Hijrah-Islam
Within five years, Mohammed (joining with other invading “marauding refugees”) had driven out, executed, or enslaved every Jew living in Medina
https://www.britannica.com/place/Medina-Saudi-Arabia

For around 1,400 years Islam has produced the major majority of the worlds “refugees”! Always fleeing from what they created!

Still the same today!

This Trojan horse invasion continues WHY?
Moslems and Islam are of course synonymous with terror!
It was and is a CRIME to allow Moslems in. Every politician is obligated to know the history of foreign people they bring in. If they had done even a little bit of study they would have found a bloodthirsty people, full of hate and terrorism.?

Mohammad invented this sort of invasion by stealth, Centuries old still used today.
The success of thier blood lust carnage is that Moslem have made their Calender year begining AD 622

"Our" repomse is to declare a war on "terror"?
1: You can’t declare war on a tactic – TERROR.
2: You can’t win if the “Good Guys” your soldiers are dying for are just a different type of bad guy.
3: You can’t win if you promote the problem – ISLAM.
4: And you can’t win overseas if you are losing at home
https://youtu.be/6CS1R1SAjBE

[Rod Speed]

"de chucka" <Dech...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:I56dnQgKuOCMLVnE...@westnet.com.au...

Yep, its nothing special and works a lot
better than solar panels and battery backup.

[Trevor]

On 22/09/2017 6:59 PM, Petzl wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 15:18:47 +1000, Trevor <tre...@home.net> wrote:
>> On 22/09/2017 9:07 AM, Petzl wrote:
>>> The "Face" of todays army?
>>> https://saboteur365.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/transgender-in-military2.jpg
>>
>> THAT should scare the hell out of the enemy!
>> :-)
>>
>

> Most believe it's "our" government that are the enemy!

Yep, should scare the hell out of Abbott too!

Trevor.

[Fran]

On 22/09/2017 2:40 PM, de chucka wrote:
> On 22/09/2017 1:36 PM, Petzl wrote:


>> tiny penis!
>>
>> Usually buy a new one each year,

Where does one buy a new tiny penis?

I can see why he'd need one given all that boasting about a jacuzzi and
his coffee machine - that boasting is a sure signs of inadequacy on his
part. But his drinking problem will result in any new tiny penis being
non-operational anyway. He should save his money to buy a water bed to
add to the possession boasting.

[Ned Latham]

The ugly sow, aka the mad cow, posting as "Fran", wrote:
>
> Where does one buy a new tiny penis?

You could ask Yap-Tap for hism Piggy.

[Frank Slootweg]

I've reported you to your News provider! Your first four words and the
question mark were more than enough! Coming to think of it, I also
reported you for asking these pesky rethorical thingies!

[de chucka]

On 22/09/2017 6:56 PM, Petzl wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 16:38:59 +1000, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> So am I, I suppose, if power ever fails gas fueled generator starts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gas? :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Runs on natural gas
>>>>
>>>> Cheaper to get solar panels and a battery back-up
>>>
>>> Wrong, as always.
>>
>>
>> have you any idea of the cost of a gas fuel generator?
>
> 3K installed
> http://www.kohlergenerators.com/home-generators/products/8RESV
>

US product not installed, next

[de chucka]

So you know it is expensive

its nothing special and works a lot
> better than solar panels and battery backup.

How so if you solar system is set up properly?
>
>
>

[de chucka]

Don't dis water beds

[Rod Speed]

"de chucka" <Dech...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:qKOdnV4w2Z336FjE...@westnet.com.au...

So are solar panels and enough battery backup to
run everything when the shit has hit the fan. And
the batterys wont last forever, the generator may
well do when its only used during power failures.

>> its nothing special and works a lot better than solar panels and battery
>> backup.

> How so if you solar system is set up properly?

Even you should have noticed that the sun doesn’t
shine all the time.

[de chucka]

No

And
> the batterys wont last forever, the generator may
> well do when its only used during power failures.

Making it more expensive in term of use

>
>>> its nothing special and works a lot better than solar panels and
>>> battery backup.
>
>> How so if you solar system is set up properly?
>
> Even you should have noticed that the sun doesn’t
> shine all the time.

That is why you have a storage system

[Petzl]

On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 06:39:42 +1000, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>

wrote:

>On 22/09/2017 6:56 PM, Petzl wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 16:38:59 +1000, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> So am I, I suppose, if power ever fails gas fueled generator starts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gas? :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Runs on natural gas
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheaper to get solar panels and a battery back-up
>>>>
>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>
>>>
>>> have you any idea of the cost of a gas fuel generator?
>>
>> 3K installed
>> http://www.kohlergenerators.com/home-generators/products/8RESV
>>
>
>
>US product not installed, next

mine cost Au$3K installed for 8Kw generator,
Kohler don't have a Australian web site but there are plenty of
suppliers installers of a lot of makers/manufacturers.

Web page or manufacturer always quote the high price.

Doubt even on best day your solar/battery would provide 8Kw and cost
easily four times more and no good in a power failure (solar cells
stop).

8Kw Tesla Battery alone cost Au$22K!
Were considering uninterruptible supply but not worth it IMO it's a
scam, just use a jaycar one for computer