SMS Costs For Australian Idol
John Leister
of all the SMS voting in Australian Idol
The other channels "current affairs" shows like ACA and TT have both
done beatups on the fact that the station and Telstra have made a whole
shitload of money out of the voters.
TT even ran a story where they claimed in other countries like the USA
voting for Idol was FREE so why couldn't it be FREE here in Australia
too, if the story was true of course?
GrantB
voting. That's two votes for every three people watching. In dollar terms that is A$770,000
generated on the back of two hours of programming. - TheAge, Nov 1
a_dude
they enjoy it and ask for more...
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much revenue as they can where ever possible.
In the USA the CD's they sell, might actually pay for the show, in Australia
they can't afford to do that.
Turn that shit off anyway, it'll rot your brain long before you mobile will
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Trevor S
> like I keep saying, aussies love getting f.cked up the ass,
> they enjoy it and ask for more...
Unlike an Election, voting was not cumpolsory. It didn't cost me a cent.
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Mike
> Does anyone have a figure for how much channel 10 might have made out
> of all the SMS voting in Australian Idol
Not only do they get avdertising and SMS revenue for this low-budget
dreck, but they also build up a database of the mobile numbers of dumb,
poor-taste, gullible consumers for future promotions.
Cross-reference that with fly-buys, and other data-bases, and they
know an awful lot about you.
John Leister
> It's a commercial show, on a commercial TV station they will try and get as
> much revenue as they can where ever possible.
>
> In the USA the CD's they sell, might actually pay for the show, in Australia
> they can't afford to do that.
>
> Turn that shit off anyway, it'll rot your brain long before you mobile will
> !
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> Tony
I do wholeheartedly agree. I've only watched a handful of
the shows
Brissie
>TT even ran a story where they claimed in other countries like the USA
>voting for Idol was FREE so why couldn't it be FREE here in Australia
>too, if the story was true of course?
Because then the families of the "idols" would vote for their own
1000000 times if it was free.
Mr X
of 55c, it would cost between 10c and 20c.
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Darkfalz
If people want to waste their money voting for shit like this and BB,
fucking let them. It's not like they're being forced.
Obviously, I feel sorry for fathers with stupid bimbo daughters who send SMS
after SMS hoping their hunky star will win, but those fathers need to learn
how to discipline somehow.
Rod Speed
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Michael
> they enjoy it and ask for more...
Australians are smart people.
If they think its a ripoff, they wont vote
Michael
> voting for Idol was FREE so why couldn't it be FREE here in Australia
> too, if the story was true of course?
Why would they make it free? There is money to be made
Phone companies and TV companies arent charities
Michael
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Hardly
>
Michael
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> "Free" would still mean the normal cost of a phone call or SMS. So instead
No, free is free
Marc Dodsworth
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Now will ch7 stop using 1900 numbers etc for their promotions phone polls
etc and give up on a nice little source of cash?
Marc
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>
ferret
Voting in US is only open for 2 hours not 2 freak'n weeks
You'd set a land speed record if you could do 1000000 smseses in 2 hours.
Ruby Cooper
> Because then the families of the "idols" would vote for their own
> 1000000 times if it was free.
Ah, but if that's true, then all the families would do it so they would just
cancel each other out.
The original me
Aren't television stations businesses? They should make money however they
can if people will pay, so why not charge.
Stephen Hardy
that just dont think first before sms'ing
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William J. Wolfe
Acxtually they know fuck all about you. What they do have is - a phone
number, A rough approximation of your age from the known Aus idol
audience and from that your number is a property saleable to oufits
that market consumer goods and services that are targeted at the Aus
idol demographic. Of course he company produxing Aus idol makes
ashitload of extra cash from teh folls who pay 55 cents each time they
"vote." As for the votes actually being used to decide a winner, as in
the Big Brother series, we have no real proof that the phone votes are
counted. Vote on, you little sheep, Telstra loves the profits you give
it and so do the Aus idol producers.
John Leister
> In article <3FB3A95C...@hotmail.com>, Muggy...@hotmail.com says...
> > Does anyone have a figure for how much channel 10 might have made out
> > of all the SMS voting in Australian Idol
> >
> > The other channels "current affairs" shows like ACA and TT have both
> > done beatups on the fact that the station and Telstra have made a whole
> > shitload of money out of the voters.
> >
> > TT even ran a story where they claimed in other countries like the USA
> > voting for Idol was FREE so why couldn't it be FREE here in Australia
> > too, if the story was true of course?
> >
> >
> >
> Out of an estimated audience of 2.2 million, 1.4 million votes were received in last week's
> voting. That's two votes for every three people watching. In dollar terms that is A$770,000
> generated on the back of two hours of programming. - TheAge, Nov 1
And what's the actual cost to implement this probably nowhere near 55 cents.
I'd bet it even costs a hell of a lot less then the normal 25 cents to send an SMS
especially when most of the hard work happens in the background with automated
systems taking up the slack and doing all the hard work.....
Michael
How is that relevant anyway?
a_dude
until we started sucking American cock....
don't you remember the National IQ Test,
the aussies are having another one again, since the last one showed how
trully stupid the nation really is (of course the new test will have far
easier questions so we don't look so dumb).
But the point was proven ....
cheers ;)
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William J. Wolfe
> correction...Australians USED to be smart,
>
> until we started sucking American cock....
>
> don't you remember the National IQ Test,
> the aussies are having another one again, since the last one showed how
> trully stupid the nation really is (of course the new test will have far
> easier questions so we don't look so dumb).
Any fool who sits and stares at everwhere mcguire all night for the
socalled "IQ test" doesn't need to answer any test questions. The fact
that they bother to watch that cheap shit proves the lack of any real
intelligence.
Perusal
You can bulk buy SMS from carriers at under 10c.
P.
Leon.
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The charge for SMS is the flat rate, as per your deal with your mobile
phone carrier or web sms service . The fee goes to the telco only - the
telco isnt going to give a kickback to Idol is it.
The 0055 number does include a service charge, and that is where the issue
is.
Why should idol be able to make money off the 0055 /1900 service ?
Why didnt they just get a 13 (or 1300) number ? They pay a small fee, and
the user pays a local call charge. The only possible reason is to encourage
the use of SMS, to relieve the load on the voice service.
Frank
> The charge for SMS is the flat rate, as per your deal with your mobile
> phone carrier or web sms service . The fee goes to the telco only - the
> telco isnt going to give a kickback to Idol is it.
The SMS was a "188" service and the income would be shared between the telco
and the opeartor.
>
> The 0055 number does include a service charge, and that is where the issue
> is.
> Why should idol be able to make money off the 0055 /1900 service ?
> Why didnt they just get a 13 (or 1300) number ? They pay a small fee, and
> the user pays a local call charge. The only possible reason is to
encourage
> the use of SMS, to relieve the load on the voice service.
Most likely reason is to make money.
Frank
Leon.
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>
> > The charge for SMS is the flat rate, as per your deal with your mobile
> > phone carrier or web sms service . The fee goes to the telco only - the
> > telco isnt going to give a kickback to Idol is it.
>
> The SMS was a "188" service and the income would be shared between the
telco
> and the opeartor.
Ah, yeah, a "premium" sms service.
That sucks. no one told me there was a premium sms service.
Not that I would sms a tv station.
geeze.
Geoffw
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from what I could see the terms and conditions - you know
the little bit way at the bottom of the screen, advised that
the phone call OR SMS was 50 or 55 cents
On news was stated that an audience of 3.5 million for Idol
final, so it does not take many SMS to make a lot of money
Geoff
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