Ben and his Job
-M-a-TTHe-w
wrote:
>I have just been told by a relative that is working with a member of Bens
>family, and he was told the reason Ben was fired from the police force was
>for pulling a gun on a woman to get her to shut up.
>
>Sounds like it fits his character and I am not surprised.
Full of crap
lee-b-fun-ke
> "Colchar" < wrote:
>
>> I have just been told by a relative that is working with a member of
>> Bens family, and he was told the reason Ben was fired from the
>> police force was for pulling a gun on a woman to get her to shut up.
>>
>> Sounds like it fits his character and I am not surprised.
>
>
> Full of crap
do you know him ?
--
"Boot the grime of this world in the crotch, dear"
Katharine S
Proof?
Mark
Ben resigned from the police force (I obviously don't have the
resignation as proof) 6 weeks before entering the house.
Use your common sense please- If Ben had pulled a gun on a suspect, he
would not only have been dismissed, but charged as well. If he'd been
found guilty of that offence, why on earth would he studying law
(paying 30k per year) to become a criminal lawyer when he wouldn't be
accepted to the bar with that criminal record?
ho'JU
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> >>> I have just been told by a relative that is working with a member of
> >>> Bens family, and he was told the reason Ben was fired from the
> >>> police force was for pulling a gun on a woman to get her to shut up.
> >>>
> >>> Sounds like it fits his character and I am not surprised.
> >>
> >>
> >> Full of crap
> >
> >Proof?
> >
>
> Ben resigned from the police force (I obviously don't have the
> resignation as proof) 6 weeks before entering the house.
>
> Use your common sense please- If Ben had pulled a gun on a suspect, he
> would not only have been dismissed, but charged as well. If he'd been
> found guilty of that offence, why on earth would he studying law
> (paying 30k per year) to become a criminal lawyer when he wouldn't be
> accepted to the bar with that criminal record?
Its a massive Government cover-up. Like Roswell and the Holocaust.
Everyone knows it.
ho'JU
-M-a-TTHe-w
-M-a-TTHe-w
>he wouldn't be
>accepted to the bar with that criminal record?
Actually, that isnt true
Colchar
What crap, he is a police officer it is not illegal for them to point guns
at people you moron, its just not good work practice, and he would have been
dealt with on discipline grounds not criminal.
Colin
Peter Lucas
news:3ed4d7da$0$20...@echo-01.iinet.net.au:
That's not that far from the truth, you know!!
Mark
wrote:
>What crap, he is a police officer it is not illegal for them to point guns
>at people you moron,
Well the original poster claimed he pointed a gun at womans head to
shut her up, there was no mention of her being armed.
Copper or not, that's a crime.
> its just not good work practice, and he would have been
>dealt with on discipline grounds not criminal.
>
>Colin
>
It's a criminal offence.
Colchar
I was the original poster, and what I claimed was he pointed a gun at a
woman to get her to shut up. What is not known is the context it was done
in, or any other details.
If he was to pull his gun hold it to her head and aggressively yell at her
to stop, you would consider that a lot different to pulling a gun at a
distance of a few metres, aiming it at her and requesting her to stop. As
you see these are 2 very different examples of how different the situation
could have been.
Of which we don't know.
Colin
Mark
wrote:
I see your point now but The fact remains, he resigned on his own
accord.
Iggy
"Colchar" <col...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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Sorry, don't buy it. As dodgy as BB's "selection criteria" appears to be,
there is no way that they would let someone in the house who did something
like that.
Colchar
"Iggy" <ig0610(nospam)@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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You do realise that him pulling a gun as a police officer is not that much
of a big deal, it may not be best practise, and he may have gotten into a
lot of trouble. But I know if a cop pulled a gun on me I would be as shit
scared as if someone off the street did.
Doesn't mean he is going to be a gun wielding fruit loop, just means he's
not the best cop going around, and I am sure it wouldn't bother them with
selection, if he wasn't a cop and had done the same then alarm bells would
have been ringing, but Police handle guns as part of their everyday routine.
Colin
-M-a-TTHe-w
>Wrong bar.
No, i'm saying that a record doesnt preclude you from becoming
accepted into the bar
Mark
What sort of bar are you referring too?
-M-a-TTHe-w
>>>Wrong bar.
>>
>>No, i'm saying that a record doesnt preclude you from becoming
>>accepted into the bar
>
>What sort of bar are you referring too?
The legal on.
A criminal record does NOT automatically mean you can never be a
lawyer.
Colchar
"-M-a-TTHe-w" <age> wrote in message
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Don't argue with him, it seems he knows all and everyone else speaks out
their arse. Even though I have info from Bens family I talk shit, but he
knows all.
Personally I am not saying anything else on the matter I couldn't give 2
fucks who believes me or not, I know I shouldn't have wasted my time putting
it up here.
Colin
bileduct
> >> Full of crap
> >Proof?
I heard that he resigned from the Police force and moved to Queensland
because of death threats from a Melbourne gangster (who later died in a hail
of bullets), after (and this is the part I'm not so sure about) he lost a
name suppression decision because of his involvement with Big Brother
(allegedly he was supposed to be in season 2).
bileduct
"bileduct" <fu...@off.ye.matey> wrote in message
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> > >> Full of crap
> > >Proof?
Here's the f'kin article right here.
Big Bro's shady past
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Big Bro's shady past
By MIKE EDMONDS
29apr03
A BIG Brother housemate quit Victoria Police and moved to Queensland after
receiving death threats from a recently executed mobster.
And another policeman chosen for the new series was forced out of the show
by his own big brother -- Queensland Police Commissioner Bob Atkinson.
Benjamin Archbold left Melbourne after he was threatened by Nikolai Radev --
known in the underworld as "Nik the Russian". The criminal heavyweight was
executed in a hail of bullets as he walked to his car in Coburg this month.
It has also been revealed that Archbold has appeared in the Melbourne
Magistrates' Court on offensive behaviour charges.
The threats to Archbold were made by Radev well before his shooting.
Radev threatened the police officer from the public area of a suburban
magistrates' court, where associates of his were facing charges.
Archbold, then a senior detective, had been involved in a raid during which
Radev's associates were sprayed with capsicum spray.
After the first episode of the new Big Brother series screened on Sunday
night, Archbold was identified by several people who rang the network and
the Herald Sun as a senior detective who pleaded guilty to charges in
Melbourne Magistrates' Court this month.
He was put on a 12-month good behaviour bond and ordered to pay $500 into
the court fund, but no conviction was recorded.
The court appearance on April 1 -- a fortnight before Radev was gunned
down -- related to charges of behaving in an offensive manner in public and
behaving in a disorderly way while drunk.
The charges stemmed from incidents on November 2, 2001, after a drinking
session at the Waterloo Cup Hotel in Moonee Ponds.
It was claimed in court that Archbold had "put the wind up" two women and
urinated in public. He flagged down the motorists and pulled out his police
identification, demanding the women drive him to a police station.
The court heard that Archbold was facing significant work pressure at the
time. It is believed he was under investigation for a number of groundless
allegations made by Radev and his associates.
Network Ten yesterday defended its selection process for Big Brother.
"The courts had been through their processes and no conviction was
recorded," the network said in a statement.
"The Melbourne Magistrates' Court on the 1st of April 2003 placed Benjamin
on a 12-month good behaviour bond and this issue didn't cause concern to
producers during the selection process as all the necessary checks were
conducted."
During the court case it was revealed Archbold auditioned for Big Brother 2
and feared for his life if his identity was made public. A move to suppress
his name and occupation was rejected.
His application to enter the previous Big Brother house is believed to have
failed because an ex-girlfriend contacted Network Ten and the police force
was unwilling for him to appear.
While Archbold finally gets his chance on Big Brother 3, Queensland
policeman Brett Jensen was forced to pull out of the reality TV show only 45
minutes before it began.
Commissioner Atkinson said it would be unprofessional for the detective to
appear on the show, which sees housemates compete for $250,000.
The 30-year-old didn't appeared during Sunday night's launch while the other
15 housemates were introduced to audiences and six were invited into the
Dreamworld compound.
A Queensland Police Service spokesman said it could reasonably be assumed
that some viewers could have seen the officer as representing Queensland
police.
Channel 10 said Det. Jensen pulled out for "purposes of his own".
The network still considered him to be officially the 16th housemate and he
would remain "locked up", like the other housemates still not on our
screens, until Thursday.
www.heraldsun.news.com.au...02,00.html
Mark
That depends on what your record is.
Mark
wrote:
>Don't argue with him, it seems he knows all and everyone else speaks out
>their arse.
This time you have.
> Even though I have info from Bens family I talk shit, but he
>knows all.
Your source is wrong.
>Personally I am not saying anything else on the matter I couldn't give 2
>fucks who believes me or not,
Yes you do.
>I know I shouldn't have wasted my time putting
>it up here.
Yes that's right, because it's idle gossip and is no way factual.
Katharine S
Yeah, isn't there some time limitation thing, after which it doesn't have to
be declared?
And Matthew, in case you don't get it, I'M AGREEING WITH YOU.
--
Katharine S.
This isn't my tagline! Who put it here?
-M-a-TTHe-w
No, it depends on the presentation you make to the association :0)
-M-a-TTHe-w
<kath...@nospamoptushome.com.au> wrote:
>-M-a-TTHe-w wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 May 2003 08:08:39 GMT, Mark <hd...@djd.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Wrong bar.
>>>>
>>>> No, i'm saying that a record doesnt preclude you from becoming
>>>> accepted into the bar
>>>
>>> What sort of bar are you referring too?
>>
>>
>> The legal on.
>>
>> A criminal record does NOT automatically mean you can never be a
>> lawyer.
>
>Yeah, isn't there some time limitation thing, after which it doesn't have to
>be declared?
10 years i think.
>
>And Matthew, in case you don't get it, I'M AGREEING WITH YOU.
Bake off.
Katharine S
> On Thu, 29 May 2003 22:19:22 +1000, "Katharine S"
>>> lawyer.
>>
>> Yeah, isn't there some time limitation thing, after which it doesn't
>> have to be declared?
>
>
> 10 years i think.
Sounds about right. There was a program on the ABC recently that talked
about this kind of thing (by that documentary maker who did that boys'
school one, and who pronounces his last name in a poncy way - sorry, can't
remember anything else). And it was to do with Qld, which makes it
reasonably relevant. Although I think it was barristers rather than lawyers.
>> And Matthew, in case you don't get it, I'M AGREEING WITH YOU.
>
> Bake off.
Sorry, someone borrowed my breadmaker :)
--
Katharine S.
Opportunity knocks once. Temptation leans on the doorbell.
MorpheusMatthew
wrote:
>On Thu, 29 May 2003 17:08:20 +1000, -M-a-TTHe-w <age> wrote:
>
>>>>>he wouldn't be
>>>>>accepted to the bar with that criminal record?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Actually, that isnt true
>>>
>>>Wrong bar.
>>
>>No, i'm saying that a record doesnt preclude you from becoming
>>accepted into the bar
>
>Indeed not. The nearest town to us is a gaol town, and many people
>with records have been accepted into the bar there.
Yes.
That is most amusing.