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Wolfgang Wildeblood

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May 20, 2013, 11:26:29 PM5/20/13
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According to your ABC:-

Key points
Tornado struck on Monday afternoon (local time) at speeds of up to
320kph.
3,000 homes were in the tornado's path, along with an estimated
200,000 people.

200,000/3,000 = 66.7ish

I guess your ABC is counting each trailer park as a single home? Isn't
that borderline racist?

Trevor

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May 21, 2013, 1:50:57 AM5/21/13
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"Wolfgang Wildeblood" <wolfgangw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> According to your ABC:-
> Key points
> Tornado struck on Monday afternoon (local time) at speeds of up to
> 320kph.
> 3,000 homes were in the tornado's path, along with an estimated
> 200,000 people.
>
> 200,000/3,000 = 66.7ish
>
> I guess your ABC is counting each trailer park as a single home?

And obviously not counting schools, offices, factories etc as homes. Still
seems a little high though, but maths is never the media's strong suit after
all.

Trevor.


atec77

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May 21, 2013, 4:07:30 AM5/21/13
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with 35 million people in the projected path of these storms obviously
your implication is wrong , not all of them lives in trailers

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Wolfgang Wildeblood

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May 21, 2013, 4:31:44 AM5/21/13
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Homeless people don't count.

And this was a story about one particular impressively large tornado,
so whether 35 million folks live in the path of the whole storm system
or not is irrelevant.

It's more likely the journotainers at your ABC just pulled out their
atlas and looked up how many people lived in the city, and decided the
tornado had afflicted them all. I can't quickly check that because the
name of the city didn't rate as a key point.

But I'm sure a billion dollars or so every year for the ABC is money
well spent.

Wolfgang Wildeblood

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May 21, 2013, 4:35:40 AM5/21/13
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On May 21, 1:50 pm, "Trevor" <tre...@home.net> wrote:
> "Wolfgang Wildeblood" <wolfgangwildebl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d55c063f-98e0-4b36...@fz1g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > According to your ABC:-
> > Key points
> > Tornado struck on Monday afternoon (local time) at speeds of up to
> > 320kph.
> > 3,000 homes were in the tornado's path, along with an estimated
> > 200,000 people.
>
> > 200,000/3,000 = 66.7ish
>
> > I guess your ABC is counting each trailer park as a single home?
>
> And obviously not counting schools, offices, factories etc.

In Oklahoma?


> seems a little high though, but maths is never the media's strong suit after
> all.

It's okay, atec has reminded me that not every redneck can afford a
trailer. Too busy wrestlin' 'gators and so forth.

atec77

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May 21, 2013, 4:40:01 AM5/21/13
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On 21/05/2013 6:31 PM, Wolfgang Wildeblood wrote:
> On May 21, 4:07 pm, atec77 <"atec77 "@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 21/05/2013 1:26 PM, Wolfgang Wildeblood wrote:> According to your ABC:-
>>
>>> Key points
>>> Tornado struck on Monday afternoon (local time) at speeds of up to
>>> 320kph.
>>> 3,000 homes were in the tornado's path, along with an estimated
>>> 200,000 people.
>>
>>> 200,000/3,000 = 66.7ish
>>
>>> I guess your ABC is counting each trailer park as a single home? Isn't
>>> that borderline racist?
>>
>> with 35 million people in the projected path of these storms obviously
>> your implication is wrong , not all of them lives in trailers
>
> Homeless people don't count.
they were not before the storms though , I see a theme here from you
>
> And this was a story about one particular impressively large tornado,
> so whether 35 million folks live in the path of the whole storm system
> or not is irrelevant.
completly relevent and the reason it's mentioned
>
> It's more likely the journotainers at your ABC just pulled out their
> atlas and looked up how many people lived in the city, and decided the
> tornado had afflicted them all. I can't quickly check that because the
> name of the city didn't rate as a key point.
So you are clueless as usual
>
> But I'm sure a billion dollars or so every year for the ABC is money
> well spent.
>
you support the homosexual mafia at the abc ?
explains a lot


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Brad

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May 21, 2013, 8:49:43 AM5/21/13
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You are so full of shit Wolf. You are so keen to put the boot into the ABC about faulty numbers, you are ready to misrepresent them massively yourself. It weakens your argument when the lie is so obvious.

When the news reports 3600 homes and 200,000 people affected, it does not say they are occupants of those homes. The medical centre and hospital destroyed affected thousands of people, without any of the occupants being residents of those buildings. The schools destroyed affected thousands of kids ( the school district has 20,000 students) and only a small percentage would have been from the path of the tornado. The rest are from adjoining areas.

But for gods sake, what ever you do, don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant. In that area you are no better than the journalists you seek to criticize.

Wolfgang Wildeblood

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May 21, 2013, 9:56:41 AM5/21/13
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Brad, you misunderstand me. You're having another time zone
misunderstanding, I think. When I posted, I hadn't seen the news
reports on TV, it was still mid-afternoon in this part of the world.
The ABC website was the first I'd heard of it. And you owe me
an(other) apology. How dare you say I misrepresented them and call me
a liar. I quoted the ABC verbatim:

Key points
Tornado struck on Monday afternoon (local time) at speeds of up to
320kph.
3,000 homes were in the tornado's path, along with an estimated
200,000 people.

That's exactly what it said. It wasn't my interpretation of the "key
points" - I would never use such a phrase. My complaint isn't about
faulty arithmetic, it's that the journotainers have dispensed with
paragraphs and are now serving up "journalism" in bullet-point lists.
English abbreviated into 140 characters "or less" (they mean or fewer,
of course), so that it can be easily "re-purposed" from their web site
to their twitter feed.

Stuff that. Now I've seen the video I can see it's a serious news
story because it's a serious tragedy. From their tweet stream of
unconsciousness, devoid of context, I couldn't tell whether it was
another Cyclone Katrina or just a filler piece on a slow news day.

For just 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12 cents a day and/or a billion bucks a year,
we deserve better than bullet-lists of "talking points".

Brad

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May 21, 2013, 9:14:15 PM5/21/13
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On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 11:56:41 PM UTC+10, Wolfgang Wildeblood wrote:
> On May 21, 8:49 pm, Brad <bradvk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > You are so full of shit Wolf. You are so keen to put the boot into the ABC about faulty numbers, you are ready to misrepresent them massively yourself. It weakens your argument when the lie is so obvious.
>
> >
>
> > When the news reports 3600 homes and 200,000 people affected, it does not say they are occupants of those homes. The medical centre and hospital destroyed affected thousands of people, without any of the occupants being residents of those buildings. The schools destroyed affected thousands of kids ( the school district has 20,000 students) and only a small percentage would have been from the path of the tornado. The rest are from adjoining areas.
>
> >
>
> > But for gods sake, what ever you do, don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant. In that area you are no better than the journalists you seek to criticize.
>
>
>
> Brad, you misunderstand me. You're having another time zone
>
> misunderstanding, I think.

I am having no difficulty with time zones. I was in Texas and OK timezones last week. I am an hour ahead of them this week. I am still conducting business back home. I know what time it is.


>When I posted, I hadn't seen the news
>
> reports on TV, it was still mid-afternoon in this part of the world.
>
> The ABC website was the first I'd heard of it. And you owe me
>
> an(other) apology. How dare you say I misrepresented them and call me
>
> a liar. I quoted the ABC verbatim:
>
>
>
> Key points
>
> Tornado struck on Monday afternoon (local time) at speeds of up to
>
> 320kph.
>
> 3,000 homes were in the tornado's path, along with an estimated
>
> 200,000 people.
>
>
>
> That's exactly what it said. It wasn't my interpretation of the "key
>
> points" - I would never use such a phrase.

Instead you misrepresented the statement to mean that 200,000 people lived in 3000 houses, which is clearly Not what was written.

My complaint isn't about
>
> faulty arithmetic,

Because you applied your own faulty arithmetic then accused the ABC of racism.

" I guess your ABC is counting each trailer park as a single home? Isn't
that borderline racist? "

it's that the journotainers have dispensed with
>
> paragraphs and are now serving up "journalism" in bullet-point lists.
>
> English abbreviated into 140 characters "or less" (they mean or fewer,
>
> of course), so that it can be easily "re-purposed" from their web site
>
> to their twitter feed.

That was not what you said in the original post. You accused them of inaccuracy and now have twisted your reasons to defend your position.

Whatever the purpose of the bullet points, if that is all the information they had to hand, then those headlines are all they could accurately report.


>
>
>
> Stuff that. Now I've seen the video I can see it's a serious news
>
> story because it's a serious tragedy. From their tweet stream of
>
> unconsciousness, devoid of context, I couldn't tell whether it was
>
> another Cyclone Katrina or just a filler piece on a slow news day.
>
So you accused them of racism.
>
> For just 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12 cents a day and/or a billion bucks a year,
>
> we deserve better than bullet-lists of "talking points".

Instead you would prefer the usual journalist fare of three facts and 500 words of partial truths wrapped around them. We've seen that sort of work from Coach. I'd prefer my ABC to report what they know and not make up stories to pad it out.

And now that you've been caught misrepresenting the facts you continue your attack on them. If anyone deserves an apology, it is the ABC.

Kelpie

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May 22, 2013, 4:27:24 AM5/22/13
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I feel for this place, they've only just recovered from the last tsunami.

Wolfgang Wildeblood

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May 22, 2013, 3:11:23 PM5/22/13
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On May 22, 9:14 am, Brad <bradvk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> And now that you've been caught misrepresenting the facts you continue your attack on them. If anyone deserves an apology, it is the ABC.

They can have it, if I can have my 12 cents a day back.

Coach

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May 22, 2013, 5:42:41 PM5/22/13
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Did you actually read what Wolfie was complaining about Brad? Or are
you just criticising for the sake of it again?

atec77

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May 22, 2013, 5:48:43 PM5/22/13
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You wont get it back
so how about you hold your breath in protest for 20 minuets or so

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Coach

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May 22, 2013, 5:51:20 PM5/22/13
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Wouldn't that kill him? Are you seriously telling someone in writing
to kill themselves? I suppose you think your "X-No-Archive: Yes"
disclaimer will save you, right?

BDK

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May 22, 2013, 6:18:26 PM5/22/13
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In article <8dd0eb61-2a6f-429a-abcc-a0bdf6daf803
@pd6g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>, suv...@yahoo.fr says...
It's not really possible for someone to hold their breath till they die.
When you hold it long enough, you pass out, and start breathing again.

I learned this when I was about 5, after a friend tried it when his mom
wouldn't take him to a neary carnival. He got to the slightly purple
stage before he gave up.

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Coach

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May 22, 2013, 6:25:36 PM5/22/13
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He didn't do it right then. You take a deep breath of one of those
aerosol cans of butane gas ($2.20 at Bunnings) and then hold your
breath and put your head into a bucket of water. You pass out within
seconds and drown completely painlessly.

atec77

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May 22, 2013, 6:38:36 PM5/22/13
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On 23/05/2013 8:18 AM, BDK wrote:
> feck off idiot

Coach

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May 22, 2013, 6:41:47 PM5/22/13
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On May 23, 8:38 am, atec77 <"atec77 "@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 23/05/2013 8:18 AM, BDK wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >  feck off idiot

Best.Comeback.Ever

Wolfgang Wildeblood

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May 22, 2013, 9:49:36 PM5/22/13
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You. Mean. Evah.

Wolfgang Wildeblood

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May 22, 2013, 9:52:24 PM5/22/13
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What a lousy mother. Knowing how to slap a kid so it really stings,
but doesn't leave unsightly purple bruises, is one of the most
important parenting skills.

Wolfgang Wildeblood

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May 22, 2013, 9:55:29 PM5/22/13
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I don't dance, but how long is the average minuet?

atec77

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May 22, 2013, 10:55:44 PM5/22/13
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google it

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Wolfgang Wildeblood

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May 22, 2013, 11:02:41 PM5/22/13
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Will do, chief.

BDK

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May 23, 2013, 9:55:34 AM5/23/13
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In article <e15e0ef2-e92b-4c1e-828d-845f85ef5ba6
@ve4g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>, suv...@yahoo.fr says...
Hardly the same thing.

Dechucka

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May 23, 2013, 8:06:17 PM5/23/13
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