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>Does anyone have any info on the very spunky Corrine Grant who is on
>Rove??
No except that she ain't spunky.
well i'd happily use the words funny and cute to describe her...
ho'JU
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> Does anyone have any info on the very spunky Corrine Grant who is on
> Rove??
Absolutely...
Talent: Nil
Employability after 'Rove' folds: Nil
Purpose in the show: To balance the testosterone (demographic purposes)
Humor output: One good joke per sixty minutes of airtime, on a good day
Expected longevity of her career: Six months at best
Future employment: Waitress, hooker, receptionist, telephone salesperson
Richard.
she turned you down one too many times? or did she dump you when her acne
cleared and yours didnt?
>On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 03:07:24 GMT, newt...@my-deja.com regurgitated:
>>Does anyone have any info on the very spunky Corrine Grant who is on
>>Rove??
>No except that she ain't spunky.
Oh, yes she is!
Byeeeee.
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> she turned you down one too many times? or did she dump you when her acne
> cleared and yours didnt?
Dear nobrain,
Why would you assume I have had that kind of contact with her? I've never
met her. But I get jealous when I see people with no talent filling TV
spots, when good people like Denton, McFeast and numerous small-name
comedians can't get a gig.
Richard think you crazy.
I am fairly sure Denton doesn't want much to do with television these
days. I remember him saying that everyone who gets their own show
basically becomes a dickhead from all the attention that they recieved
and he was better off away from it (he said this on Club Buggery IIRC)
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dear rjcavell,
you made a comment about her being talentless (and a number of other
somewhat bitter-looking comments), i made a tongue in cheek reply.
i happen to think she is very funny, and one of the reasons i really like
the whole show is because they dont mind screwing up. imagine watching good
news week if they did it all in one take.
if denton wanted to be on tv, he would be in a second. as for mcfeast... are
you saying she is funny? cos her shows did so well once denton left them.
and small-name comedians not getting a gig. i reckon i could do better than
most politicians, and im sure i could learn to love rupert murdoch like a
father, but what has that got to do with anything?
im impressed tho... my post led two people to email me... tho... im not sure
if one of them was meant for me... all of what i said was cut out, and the
original richard bitter critique was left in it.
ho'JU (ego inflating as people finally accept him, or detest him)
Well not just that, but if he came up with a reasonable proposal when
networks are looking for new programs, he probably wouldn't have that much
trouble getting a gig.
He seems to be happy with radio at the moment.
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>....when good people like Denton, McFeast and numerous small-name
>comedians can't get a gig.
McFeast had a TV gig - the show sucked, it got canned.....
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I was accused by 2GB's Mike Gibson of *sounding* like Andrew Denton this
morning lol, not that I usually listen to talkback (at least it wasn't 2UE),
I've just been keeping an ear open the last few days to try and counter the
aggressive pro-NO shock jocks.
On reflection if YES does in fact fail to get up at the weekend, the
she-male Kerry Jones and hers will have pulled off quite a feat. Turning
Republicans against each other, exploiting traditional Australian fears and
those of the human condition by employing Exaggeration, Fear tactics,
Untruths and plain fanciful myths. History will judge Jones, and for that
matter our choice as a nation on Saturday.
Mike.
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In article <7vrp25$our$1...@the-fly.zip.com.au>, "Wollongong Quokka"
McFeast has had many TV gigs... and if you're talking about McFeast Live, it
got curtailed in favour of McFeast Specials. Her next is airing this month
if I'm not mistaken.
The commonly-held belief that the ABC dumped her is just slightly incorrect.
Where'd you get that? She wasn't. And Corinne is doing just fine. Better
than Cavell is, obviously.
~L.
Yes... apart from the doubts I've expressed re the Cliché Test things, I've
been enjoying her contributions. I really don't understand why Richard is
so against her, but it seems I'm not alone here.
> Hotplate <mads...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:3821A295...@ozemail.com.au...
> > whipper wrote:
> > >
> > > she used to be a nurse.
> >
> > Where'd you get that? She wasn't. And Corinne is doing just fine. Better
> > than Cavell is, obviously.
>
> Yes... apart from the doubts I've expressed re the Cliché Test things, I've
> been enjoying her contributions. I really don't understand why Richard is
> so against her, but it seems I'm not alone here.
>
She's good, she fits into that team dynamic, she's witty, she's got a
great face for comedy and character, in fact she's all the things that
Richard says she isn't!
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>>
>> she used to be a nurse.
Well, she can stick her finger up my bottom any time.
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That's more information than I wanted, thanks.
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> whipper wrote:
> >
> > she used to be a nurse.
>
> Where'd you get that? She wasn't. And Corinne is doing just fine. Better
> than Cavell is, obviously.
Read my .sig, dude. I'm a medical student. The minute I become a doctor,
the nurses (who hate med students) will feel my wrath.
Richard.
> Wollongong Quokka <quo...@zip.net.au> wrote:
>
> > Hotplate <mads...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:3821A295...@ozemail.com.au...
> > > whipper wrote:
> > > >
> > > > she used to be a nurse.
> > >
> > > Where'd you get that? She wasn't. And Corinne is doing just fine. Better
> > > than Cavell is, obviously.
> >
> > Yes... apart from the doubts I've expressed re the Cliché Test things, I've
> > been enjoying her contributions. I really don't understand why Richard is
> > so against her, but it seems I'm not alone here.
> >
> She's good, she fits into that team dynamic, she's witty, she's got a
> great face for comedy and character, in fact she's all the things that
> Richard says she isn't!
>
Crikey, you're all ganging up on me! Alright, if you want to watch her
then her existence on TV is justified by that fact alone. But let me
outline this:
- She could never work solo; she always needs the help of a team.
- Her hideous facial expressions (ala Julia Morris) are not funny at all.
- I've never seen her with any personality other than the bumbling,
overchatty, anxious sycophant that she usually plays. If that's what
she's like the rest of the week, she'd be difficult to take seriously.
- She could not possibly hold down a proper gig, such as doing standup on
stage throughout the Comedy Festival.
Again, I say that there are many comedy veterans who have not succeeded in
television despite having enormous range. How you can possibly think of
Corinne Grant as one of the most successful comediennes in Australia
(which, frankly, she is going by her current exposure), is beyond me. By
comparison to Kittson, Harmer, McFeast, Fahey... she has a lot of hours to
get under her belt.
Richard "official member of I hate Corinne Grant" Cavell
Crikey, you're all ganging up on me! Alright, if you want to watch her
then her existence on TV is justified by that fact alone. But let me
outline this:
- She could never work solo; she always needs the help of a team.
- Her hideous facial expressions (ala Julia Morris) are not funny at all.
- I've never seen her with any personality other than the bumbling,
overchatty, anxious sycophant that she usually plays. If that's what
she's like the rest of the week, she'd be difficult to take seriously.
- She could not possibly hold down a proper gig, such as doing standup on
stage throughout the Comedy Festival.
Again, I say that there are many comedy veterans who have not succeeded in
television despite having enormous range. How you can possibly think of
Corinne Grant as one of the most successful comediennes in Australia
(which, frankly, she is going by her current exposure), is beyond me. By
comparison to Kittson, Harmer, McFeast, Fahey... she has a lot of hours to
get under her belt.
Richard "official member of I hate Corinne Grant" Cavell
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how bizarre... my auto > thing didnt work...
anyhow, im sure there have been a number of people who get a job despite not
being the best candidate... in almost any industry...
would you have been a lot happier if she had started at the abc on low pay
and work her way up?
i like rove. i think rove and corinne are the two talents on the show. i
still think dave is only there cos of his beard (i am growing mine so when i
go to melbourne i will kidnap him and replace him).
as for the women you mentioned as comediennes, i dont think i have laughed
at any of their jokes for many many years.
i would think as an aspiring comedian you would be encouraged by the fact
that a relatively new face can make it on tv, rather than the same used up
has beens that seem to grace our home grown comedy.
ho'JU (jury is still out on my original theory on why you are so against
this girl)
> Crikey, you're all ganging up on me!
Hardly! It's a discussion forum; some may know you personally (I
certainly don't) so then it is not personal toward you. You also
emailed me Richard, responding to an earlier comment of mine ("And
Corinne is doing just fine. Better than Cavell is, obviously") with
yours (email) stating something about you being a med. student. I was
actually referring to your (more than once) justification that you have
been a standup comic; NOT the medical stuff. So yeah, she is obviously
more successful than you in that field.
>Alright, if you want to watch her
> then her existence on TV is justified by that fact alone. But let me
> outline this:
Ahh, there's always a "but"...
> - She could never work solo; she always needs the help of a team.
Incorrect.
> - Her hideous facial expressions (ala Julia Morris) are not funny at all.
Matter of taste. I think her expressions reflect her own TRUE
personality. Some people love Jim Carey's facial stuff, some hate it. I
don't think Grant's are THAT over-the-top.
> - I've never seen her with any personality other than the bumbling,
> overchatty, anxious sycophant that she usually plays. If that's what
> she's like the rest of the week, she'd be difficult to take seriously.
You don't HAVE to put up with her for the rest of the week so that point
is moot.
> - She could not possibly hold down a proper gig, such as doing standup on
> stage throughout the Comedy Festival.
Incorrect. She, this year, did a very successful solo show (yes, for
four whole weeks!) Very well recieved by reviewers, peers & public.
>
> Again, I say that there are many comedy veterans who have not succeeded in
> television despite having enormous range.
True. Acceptable nature of the beast. Right place; right time. Possibly
the very best talents at reading news, reviewing movies or selling hair
removal systems never made it either. Derrrrr!
> How you can possibly think of
> Corinne Grant as one of the most successful comediennes in Australia
> (which, frankly, she is going by her current exposure), is beyond me.
If it weren't for your reference (after) the above sentence to more
recent comics I'd have sworn you were stuck in the sixties -- okay,
maybe the seventies, Richard. "Comediennes??" Oh god, I'd have hoped
that term went on the scrap heap with black n' white tellies and blue
bags.
> By
> comparison to Kittson, Harmer, McFeast, Fahey... she has a lot of hours to
> get under her belt.
Making a fine start then, 'ey?
>
> Richard "official member of I hate Corinne Grant" Cavell
And nobody's ganging up on you, Cavell. To each their own; open to
discussion; let's agree to fight about shit keeping this ng just a tad
on the spicier side, yeah?
~ L.Hotplate
> Read my .sig, dude. I'm a medical student. The minute I become a doctor,
> the nurses (who hate med students) will feel my wrath.
>
> Richard.
So'kay, DUDE! I'm sure you'll be a much more successful doctor than a
comic.
~L.
> would you have been a lot happier if she had started at the abc on low pay
> and work her way up?
It would give her a hell of a lot more credibility if she did start at the
bottom like most comedians do. If you've played pub gigs, or done the
comedy festival, or University revues, you'll learn...
- Your potential audience is vast. You quickly learn not to do in-jokes,
or anything else which relies on specialist knowledge. Your comedy should
cover most demographics if you are to succeed.
- How to handle hecklers, or having a bad night where no one laughs, or
how to handle 'bad guests'. This
relates to the confidence that you can only build after having performed
in front of a live audience. It's very easy to have an awkward moment on
a live show that you don't know how to handle. It's better that it happen
when you're young, in front of a once-off crowd of 300, than on national
TV with all the critics watching.
Take Steve Vizard's interview on Rove. Love him or hate him, he knows all
the lines and how to handle that interview. No rehearsal necessary. You
can just plonk him in front of the camera and you know he'll keep the show
moving. I just can't have that same faith in Corinne, or a lot of others.
Bottom line is that if you haven't 'been there, done that', you can't
handle yourself in that real world. Same goes for being a nurse - you
don't promote a first-year nurse to public relations.
> as for the women you mentioned as comediennes, i dont think i have laughed
> at any of their jokes for many many years.
No, neither have I frankly. But they are long-term success stories. In a
business where you only get a handful of success stories every year.
> i would think as an aspiring comedian you would be encouraged by the fact
> that a relatively new face can make it on tv,
Well, frankly, that's the other side, isn't it? You're quite right.
Considering some of the people who get onto TV, I'd think that you
wouldn't need much of a 'break' to get there. Which is good for them, if
not for the audience.
> ho'JU (jury is still out on my original theory on why you are so against
> this girl)
Richard still think you crazy.
> > Crikey, you're all ganging up on me!
>
> Hardly!
I'm just kidding. I understand it's all in good fun.
> been a standup comic; NOT the medical stuff. So yeah, she is obviously
> more successful than you in that field.
I indeed doff my hat at her success.
> Incorrect. She, this year, did a very successful solo show (yes, for
> four whole weeks!) Very well recieved by reviewers, peers & public.
I didn't hear of it at the time (my exposure to pop culture is limited by
time and taste). But if she did do a 'proper' gig, then I would be
willing to reconsider my opinion of her. There are many performers who
are restricted by the producers of programs, and end up not doing well in
their segment. I don't know if this applies to Corinne, but I could well
accept that she's capable of much more. If I see it, then I will post a
recantation.
> If it weren't for your reference (after) the above sentence to more
> recent comics I'd have sworn you were stuck in the sixties -- okay,
> maybe the seventies, Richard.
I was born in late 1977. My comments are not directed at her as a female
- I could make the same comments about men, too (and I bagged Molloy 3
times as much as Corinne, because I expected way more).
> And nobody's ganging up on you, Cavell.
It's all in jest, Hotplate. I look forward to many more
good-humoured discussions.
Richard.
>Supasal thinks you should stop being so nasty...if you haven't done
it, don't knock it.
Cool!
Hmmm... I quite like the term... not that I have a problem with using
"Comedian" to mean the same thing.
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But why are you setting the rules for her to get that "been there, done
that" status? Who cares how she pulls it off.
> - She could never work solo; she always needs the help of a team.
Whether the rest of us agree or with you or not on this, I can only ask: "So
what?". If she works well in a team, she works well in a team.
> - Her hideous facial expressions (ala Julia Morris) are not
> funny at all.
Here we definately disagree. Although I'm also not a great fan of Julia
Morris.
> - She could not possibly hold down a proper gig, such as doing
> standup on stage throughout the Comedy Festival.
Again, wether we agree or not... why should this be a pre-requisite for
being part of comedy on TV? I just cannot see the validity in this argument
(which is why I'm not bothering to even express my own opinion).
> Again, I say that there are many comedy veterans who have
> not succeeded in television despite having enormous range.
Only proving the fact that basing your assessment on your assessment of
non-television ability if flawed.
> How you can possibly think of Corinne Grant as one of the
> most successful comediennes in Australia (which, frankly,
> she is going by her current exposure), is beyond me.
Huh? You said Corinne Grant had no talent (and went on). We reacted to
that.
> By comparison to Kittson, Harmer, McFeast, Fahey... she
> has a lot of hours to get under her belt.
Err... and may she go on to get those hours. For a recent starter in TV,
she's doing pretty bloody well.
Look, as president of the "I hate Corrine Grant club", and with Richard
as my only registered member, I must defend his right to hate Corinne
Grant, whether that hate be ill-founded or not. :-)
I find Corinne Grant annoying and unfunny. I cringe whenever she speaks.
I appreciate that others like her (though can't understand it), but
personally I can't stand her. I once walked out of a comedy show when
she appeared.
Rove would be so much better if she were replaced.
Archer
End.
Oh please. The only purpose of such anachronisms is to place a
distinction on gender when none is necessary. We don't have doctors and
doctresses. Manageress and proprietress are perhaps more offensive than
actress and comedienne, but they are founded on the same principle of
discrimination. The words actor, proprietor, manager and comedian do not
need gender specific forms- they are already neutral.
Archer
End.
I didn't think much of her when I saw her on Good News Week, but think she's
okay on Rove.
She might be growing on me.
Fred! (Who has Corinne Grant as an Extra Limb)