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Les Boyd - Tough man or down right thug?

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**MattO**

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Dec 11, 2009, 6:38:37 PM12/11/09
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I always cringe when I hear the likes of Les Boyd, Mark Geyer and LOL
Carl Webb referred to as hard and tough men of the game? Are they
really or are they just cheap thugs?

I've never seen Webb get going when the going got tough in the middle.
He fires when the opposition is weak and over a small bloke he can
bully.

To me tough players are like Terry Randall, Chris Mortimer, Terry
Lamb, Dean Pay and the toughest of them all Ray Price. Those who can
cop a knock and keep on going.

Mike Burke

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Dec 11, 2009, 7:40:14 PM12/11/09
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Yep. Spot on, Matty.

Mique

Mike Rotch

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Dec 12, 2009, 12:34:17 AM12/12/09
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"**MattO**" <mat...@rleague.com> wrote in message
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agreed


Corky

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Dec 12, 2009, 5:53:07 AM12/12/09
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On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:38:37 -0800 (PST), "**MattO**"
<mat...@rleague.com> wrote:

Roger Millward an English prop was the filthiest player I have ever
seen back in the early to mid 70's. I remember Kiwi John Greengrass
scoring a try carrying Millward over the line with him when Millward
stood up and then raked Greengrass across the face resulting in a four
inch gash. I played against John in my 1st year of league and his last
year and he carried a huge scar from eyelid to the bottom of his
cheek.
Here is a great link of famous highlights including the Roger Millward
stomping http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfSWhA9vZQE

Cheers Corky

viper

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Dec 12, 2009, 6:27:33 AM12/12/09
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"**MattO**" <mat...@rleague.com> wrote in message
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Only a myopic Canterbury fan could have forgotten to include Terry Lamb
as one of the premium fucking thugs that ever drew breath. While Boyd was
at times a little loopy, at least he was a half decent human being off the
field.

Lamb had longevity, but he was a Grade A cunt. Used to prectice a little
thuggery on the golf course as well, from memory. Ah well, with types like
him, a conviction is only a matter of time

Viper


Here's Johnny

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Dec 13, 2009, 4:22:29 AM12/13/09
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Yeah, we like tough guys like Terry Lamb, not cheap shot thugs.

Sincerely,
Ellery Hanley

Here's Johnny

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Dec 13, 2009, 4:23:23 AM12/13/09
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PS - forgot Webb vs Bailey, SOO. Bailey the bigger man, three
confrontations, and the apparently piss weak Webb, who isn't tough but a
cheap thug, put him on his arse.

Oh wait. It's Matt O.

Jack Simmons

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Dec 13, 2009, 11:51:07 AM12/13/09
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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:23:23 +1000, "Here's Johnny" <r...@tattat.net>
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Bailey really MUST learn to stop turning his back to Webb

Leighton

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Dec 13, 2009, 6:03:11 PM12/13/09
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On Dec 12, 10:38 am, "**MattO**" <matt...@rleague.com> wrote:
> I always cringe when I hear the likes of Les Boyd, Mark Geyer and LOL
> Carl Webb referred to as hard and tough men of the game? Are they
> really or are they just cheap thugs?
>
> I've never seen Webb get going when the going got tough in the middle.
> He fires when the opposition is weak and over a small bloke he can
> bully.
>

Webb once tried to punch Clint Newton when he was on the ground pinned
underneath him. Newton turned his head which meant he should've been
clocked in the ear rather than the face, but the guy somehow missed
and just pillowed the ground. Of course channel 9 waxed on and on
about how lucky Newton was.

Jeff

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Dec 14, 2009, 5:54:22 PM12/14/09
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"Corky" <ti...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Roger Millward was a diminutive scrum half.

Try Jim Mills instead. He was a filthy player, but he was also hard as
nails.


Cheers,
Jeff.

Chris Parslow

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Dec 15, 2009, 7:24:38 AM12/15/09
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On Dec 15, 9:54 am, "Jeff" <jeff9011spa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Corky" <ti...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> news:rrs6i593baccmmbpv...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:38:37 -0800 (PST), "**MattO**"
> > <matt...@rleague.com> wrote:
>
> >>I always cringe when I hear the likes of Les Boyd, Mark Geyer and LOL
> >>Carl Webb referred to as hard and tough men of the game? Are they
> >>really or are they just cheap thugs?
>
> >>I've never seen Webb get going when the going got tough in the middle.
> >>He fires when the opposition is weak and over a small bloke he can
> >>bully.
>
> >>To me tough players are like Terry Randall, Chris Mortimer, Terry
> >>Lamb, Dean Pay and the toughest of them all Ray Price. Those who can
> >>cop a knock and keep on going.
>
> > Roger Millward an English prop was the filthiest player I have ever
> > seen back in the early to mid 70's. I remember Kiwi John Greengrass
> > scoring a try carrying Millward over the line with him when Millward
> > stood up and then raked Greengrass across the face resulting in a four
> > inch gash. I played against John in my 1st year of league and his last
> > year and he carried a huge scar from eyelid to the bottom of his
> > cheek.
> > Here is a great link of famous highlights including the Roger Millward
> > stompinghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfSWhA9vZQE

>
> > Cheers Corky
>
> Roger Millward was a diminutive scrum half.
>
> Try Jim Mills instead. He was a filthy player, but he was also hard as
> nails.
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff.

Fly half, more usually. Top player, Roger the Dodger...


CP

Jeff

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Dec 16, 2009, 6:03:34 AM12/16/09
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"Chris Parslow" <parslo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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What's with the ruggeroid terminology? I'm sure he played far more often as
a scrum half for his club Hull KR than he did as a stand off. Either way, I
don't ever recall him playing as a prop forward :-)

As for Jim Mills, he was a filthy player during a filthy era.. Different
game back then so he hardly looked out of place among the rest of the thugs
back then.

> Top player, Roger the Dodger...
>
> CP

Yep.
Fighting cancer ATM unfortunately.

--
Cheers,
Jeff.


Chris Parslow

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Dec 20, 2009, 4:17:42 AM12/20/09
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On Dec 16, 10:03 pm, "Jeff" <jeff9011spa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Chris Parslow" <parslow.ch...@gmail.com> wrote in message

Poor news that. And news that one hears too often...


CP

Hammer

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Dec 20, 2009, 3:59:07 PM12/20/09
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>> "Fount" <g...@ty.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>> "Mike Burke" <mbu...@pcug.org.au> wrote in message
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>>> Les Boyd, for those who saw him play was both. An out and out thug in
>>> the mould of others of the day (Mick Alchin and Bob Cooper come to mind)
>>> but make no mistake he was a hard nut. He didn't back away, and he did
>>> hit hard, and got hit hard. Pricey was just as hard but didn't channel
>>> any of that to violence.
>>
>> What games were you watching? Price was as big a grub as the rest of
>> them. That's not a criticism, its how the game was played back then.
>
>
> Point taken regarding the usual fare of how the game was indeed played
> back then. I'm referring more to the fact that Price didn't open belt
> people in the manner that so many of the others did. When I think of the
> late 70s/80s and the grubs that ran around I'm sorry but Price isn't the
> top of my list. There were so many far worse than him.
>
> And for the record smart arse I didn't just watch the games then I played
> two seasons at the level we're talking about. Did you?

Wow. What a hero. Where can i get your autograph.

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>>> For what its worth I remember Pricey saying that the hardest men he'd
>>> seen run around when he was playing were Ray Higgs and Johnny Baker,
>>> both Parra boys.
>>>
>>> There are of course men just as hard to today. I'm sorry but I don't
>>> rate Lamb, probably because of his gutless act on the Black Pearl in the
>>> GF. That act is in the same basket as Boyd's hit on Brohman.
>>>
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>


Leighton

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