League and Cricket - Dual Players
de...@zeta.org.au
<mat...@rleague.com> wrote:
>Francis Payne wrote:
>
>> 1. Can anyone come up with some names?
>
>Graeme Hughes, NSW Shield Player & Canterbury Premiership player.Ray
>Lindwall, 246 Test wickets & St.George grand final player.
>
>There's two I've named instantly who have played Shield Cricket and First
>Grade Rugby League.
>
>Shaun Bradstreet, NSW one day player is brother to Darren Bradstreet who is a
>former Steelers player now in England. Their father Bill played one Test for
>Australia.
>
Reg Gasnier and Les Johns were both very good 1st grade cricketers in
Sydney. Bronco Djura who played for Souths was also a first grade
wicketkeeper and Canterbury had a lower grade goalkicking winger in
the 70s called Tom Gillogly who was also an opening bowler in 1st
grade cricket.
There are sure to be more, but that's a few I remember.
There was also a rugby union player I knew called Steven James who
played for NSW (and Wests) in union and was an opening bowler with
Norths Sydney grade cricket.
DebS
Francis Payne
outstanding age group cricketer (wicketkeeper).
In NZ, it is unusual to find players with an interest in both codes, esp
now with the Polynesian dominance in NZ league.
NZ has only one dual international - Verdun Scott.
There are a few others who were prominent in both - John Ackland, Richard
Matthews etc.
There wil be many who (like Kemble) gave away cricket to concentrate on
league (or vice versa).
1. Can anyone come up with some names?
2. Why is rugby and cricket more commonly linked?
Matthew O'Neill
> 1. Can anyone come up with some names?
Graeme Hughes, NSW Shield Player & Canterbury Premiership player.Ray
Lindwall, 246 Test wickets & St.George grand final player.
There's two I've named instantly who have played Shield Cricket and First
Grade Rugby League.
Shaun Bradstreet, NSW one day player is brother to Darren Bradstreet who is a
former Steelers player now in England. Their father Bill played one Test for
Australia.
Allan Langer was a very good cricketer when he was young and could have made
a career in that game if he wanted too. Langer in the AB Testmonial Match won
the Man of the Match award ahead of all the established cricketers and a TV
show host who took a fluky catch.
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Matt
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Paddy
Matthew O'Neill <mat...@rleague.com> wrote in message
news:37556EBD...@rleague.com...
> Francis Payne wrote:
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=
>
> and a TV
> show host who took a fluky catch.
Just beat me to it------Oh no that f%$@@ catch.
Paddy
Sam Montague
Matthew O'Neill <mat...@rleague.com> wrote in article
<37556EBD...@rleague.com>...
> Francis Payne wrote:
>
> > 1. Can anyone come up with some names?
Paul 'Blocker' Wilson looks as if he could handle the first grade.
> Graeme Hughes, NSW Shield Player & Canterbury Premiership player.
In age grade cricket - Hughsie claimed 10 wickets for 0 runs in an innings
!!
Ray
> Lindwall, 246 Test wickets & St.George grand final player.
>
> There's two I've named instantly who have played Shield Cricket and First
> Grade Rugby League.
>
> Shaun Bradstreet, NSW one day player is brother to Darren Bradstreet who
is a
> former Steelers player now in England. Their father Bill played one Test
for
> Australia.
>
> Allan Langer was a very good cricketer when he was young and could have
made
> a career in that game if he wanted too. Langer in the AB Testmonial Match
won
> the Man of the Match award ahead of all the established cricketers and a
TV
> show host who took a fluky catch.
>
Phil Hobbs
<3755b699...@news.zeta.org.au>...
>>
>Reg Gasnier and Les Johns were both very good 1st grade cricketers in
>Sydney. Bronco Djura who played for Souths was also a first grade
>wicketkeeper and Canterbury had a lower grade goalkicking winger in
>the 70s called Tom Gillogly who was also an opening bowler in 1st
>grade cricket.
>
>There are sure to be more, but that's a few I remember.
>There was also a rugby union player I knew called Steven James who
>played for NSW (and Wests) in union and was an opening bowler with
>Norths Sydney grade cricket.
jeezus deb, you must be just about old enough to be mike's daughter.
Bunny
Matthew O'Neill <mat...@rleague.com> wrote in article
<37556EBD...@rleague.com>...
> Francis Payne wrote:
>
> > 1. Can anyone come up with some names?
>
> Graeme Hughes, NSW Shield Player & Canterbury Premiership player.Ray
> Lindwall, 246 Test wickets & St.George grand final player.
>
I think Graeme Hughes also played at least one match for NSW in RL.
> There's two I've named instantly who have played Shield Cricket and First
> Grade Rugby League.
>
> Shaun Bradstreet, NSW one day player is brother to Darren Bradstreet who
is a
> former Steelers player now in England. Their father Bill played one Test
for
> Australia.
>
> Allan Langer was a very good cricketer when he was young and could have
made
> a career in that game if he wanted too. Langer in the AB Testmonial Match
won
> the Man of the Match award ahead of all the established cricketers and a
TV
> show host who took a fluky catch.
>
Keith Edwards - Souths winger in the 70s was also the wicketkeeper for (I
think) Randwick 1st grade.
On a slightly different note I'm pretty sure Max Walker was offered a VFL
contract but went with cricket.
None really compare to Deion Sanders though. Anyone who plays major league
US Baseball and NFL is a pretty special athlete.
Matthew O'Neill
> Matthew O'Neill <mat...@rleague.com> wrote in message
>
> > and a TV
> > show host who took a fluky catch.
>
> Just beat me to it------Oh no that f%$@@ catch.
>
> Paddy
Not un-usual for you to be beaten again Paddy. Just like your
team when they've played Canterbury under the NRL banner :)
28-16, 20-12, 24-18, all at Kogarah as well.
Halligan's success rate btw is 16 from 17 :)
Paddy
> Paddy wrote:
>
> > Matthew O'Neill <mat...@rleague.com> wrote in message
> >
> > > and a TV
> > > show host who took a fluky catch.
> >
> > Just beat me to it------Oh no that f%$@@ catch.
> >
> > Paddy
>
> Not un-usual for you to be beaten again Paddy. Just like your
> team when they've played Canterbury under the NRL banner :)
You just wait and see about that MATT, and the saints will be on fire in the
run home, don't you worry about that.
> 28-16, 20-12, 24-18, all at Kogarah as well.
>
> Halligan's success rate btw is 16 from 17 :)
Times he has missed a tackle.
Paddy
Matthew O'Neill
> You just wait and see about that MATT, and the saints will be on fire in the
> run home, don't you worry about that.
Oooooohhhh, young Paddy has to SHOUT :)
Yeah, Saints will get knocked out again in the same fashion that happened to
them in 1995 and 1998 :)
> Times he has missed a tackle.
Na, we leave the miss tackles for Brown and Ainschoke :)
Paddy
> Paddy wrote:
>
> > You just wait and see about that MATT, and the saints will be on fire in
the
> > run home, don't you worry about that.
>
> Oooooohhhh, young Paddy has to SHOUT :)
>
> Yeah, Saints will get knocked out again in the same fashion that happened
to
> them in 1995 and 1998 :)
>
>
> > Times he has missed a tackle.
>
> Na, we leave the miss tackles for Brown and Ainschoke :)
i would be a lot more confident of getting through halligan than Jamie.
Paddy
James Smith
> 1. Can anyone come up with some names?
Ray Lindwall played for St George in the early '40s.
Jim
Yossarian
> >Francis Payne wrote:
> >
> >> 1. Can anyone come up with some names?
> >
> >Graeme Hughes, NSW Shield Player & Canterbury Premiership player.Ray
> >Lindwall, 246 Test wickets & St.George grand final player.
> >
> >There's two I've named instantly who have played Shield Cricket and
First
> >Grade Rugby League.
>
> Branko Djura was another one.
Andrew Fitzhenry was a sometime Parramatta 1st grader who quit RL to play
first grade cricket with Balmain. He never look liked playing state level
in either.
Yossarian
> There wil be many who (like Kemble) gave away cricket to concentrate on
> league (or vice versa).
>
RL with cricket but also fitted in top level swimming and running for
Australia. A true legend!!
> 2. Why is rugby and cricket more commonly linked?
I'll be serious here. Rugby was of course an ameteur sport so there was
less control over what players did in the off season. Most played Rugby for
fun rather than money so playing cricket was a more obvious choice for them
than RL players who had to think about the financial side a bit more.
P.J.Davies
> None really compare to Deion Sanders though. Anyone who plays major
>league US Baseball and NFL is a pretty special athlete.
Did you supervise his drug tests Bunny?
Pete
P.J.Davies
::2. Why is rugby and cricket more commonly linked?
>I'll be serious here. Rugby was of course an ameteur sport so there was
>less control over what players did in the off season.
You got it around the wrong way. Due to long hours in the hot Aussie
sun many Cricketers had their brains fried. They are forever unable to
make rational decisions. -:)
>Most played Rugby for
>fun rather than money so playing cricket was a more obvious choice for them
>than RL players who had to think about the financial side a bit more.
Money didn't come into it apart from both being the games
of the old British empire.
Pete
Bunny
P.J.Davies <peter....@anu.edu.au> wrote in article
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When did he test positive ?
> Pete
>
>
>
Grundig
>Francis Payne wrote:
>
>> 1. Can anyone come up with some names?
>
>
>Jim
Jason Taylor (Nth Sydney) played a few games of B Grade Park Cricket in the
North Sydney comp. Not a bad player, who scored at least one century,
and took several wickets as a bowler.
Bunny
Mike Burke <mburke.s...@pcug.org.au> wrote in article
<376dcbf2....@newshost.pcug.org.au>...
> When did he test? I believe they're allowed to take steroids.
Well, if they're all taking steroids, then they're on a level playing
field. So we get back to my first point - that anyone who plays US major
league Baseball and NFL is an exceptional athlete.
>
Mick
news:01beaef4$d9cb86c0$6a6c868b@lewism...
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> Well, if they're all taking steroids, then they're on a level playing
> field. So we get back to my first point - that anyone who plays US major
> league Baseball and NFL is an exceptional athlete.
No, he didn't say they're all taking steroids....he said they're all allowed
to take steroids. I'm sure there are many in the leagues over there who
have more respect for their bodies.
I believe the baseball player who broke the record for most home runs in a
season last year is openly on some drug which is on the IOC ban list and
certainly on the NRL's banlist, but is perfectly legal in many US sports.
I would hardly call anyone who is on any drug to give them extra strength an
exceptional athlete.
Bunny
Mick <mi...@nospam.orac.net.au> wrote in article
<7ja038$466$1...@perki.connect.com.au>...
There is nothing to say that he has taken ANYTHING. Do we assume that,
because he's American and he's good, he must be a drug cheat. That's a bit
like saying because Tawera Nikau is a Maori, he must be live in Bondi.
Because The Manly pack played on the same field as Ian Roberts, they must
all be gay. Because you people contribute to the NG, you must all be like
Big Hitter.
>
>
>
>
Mick
>
> >
> > I believe the baseball player who broke the record for most home runs in
> a
> > season last year is openly on some drug which is on the IOC ban list and
> > certainly on the NRL's banlist, but is perfectly legal in many US
sports.
> >
> > I would hardly call anyone who is on any drug to give them extra
strength
> an
> > exceptional athlete.
> >
> There is nothing to say that he has taken ANYTHING. Do we assume that,
> because he's American and he's good, he must be a drug cheat. That's a bit
> like saying because Tawera Nikau is a Maori, he must be live in Bondi.
> Because The Manly pack played on the same field as Ian Roberts, they must
> all be gay. Because you people contribute to the NG, you must all be like
> Big Hitter.
Excuse me but Mark McGuire takes Androstendione. It is a legal dietary
supplement sold in shopping malls right across the USA. It is on the IOC
banlist, the NFL banlist and on the banlists for most sports in the USA
except Baseball.
He was on the 1984 US Olympic Baseball team and although he has remained one
of the best hitters in the league breaking the home run record last year,
he's never been to another Olympic Games since and doubt we'll see him in
Sydney next year.
Phil Hobbs
>>
>There is nothing to say that he has taken ANYTHING. Do we assume that,
>because he's American and he's good, he must be a drug cheat. That's a
bit
>like saying because Tawera Nikau is a Maori, he must be live in Bondi.
>Because The Manly pack played on the same field as Ian Roberts, they
must
>all be gay. Because you people contribute to the NG, you must all be
like
>Big Hitter.
two outta three ain't bad.... :o)
Phil Hobbs
>
>Excuse me but Mark McGuire takes Androstendione. It is a legal
dietary
>supplement sold in shopping malls right across the USA. It is on the
IOC
>banlist, the NFL banlist and on the banlists for most sports in the
USA
>except Baseball.
>
>He was on the 1984 US Olympic Baseball team and although he has
remained one
>of the best hitters in the league breaking the home run record last
year,
>he's never been to another Olympic Games since and doubt we'll see him
in
>Sydney next year.
hey....with a name like that, its little wonder they don't allow in
sport, it oughtta be banned from baseball too...........psssst...you
got any staminazolomide...?
P.J.Davies
P.J.Davies wrote:
Bunny wrote:
>>None really compare to Deion Sanders though. Anyone who plays major
>>league US Baseball and NFL is a pretty special athlete.
:Did you supervise his drug tests Bunny?
>When did he test positive ?
Well since you set yourself up as "judge of ball players" i thought
you might have known. Strangely enough no one cares if the
USA athletes take drugs or not. With their big sponsors paying
big money i don't think we'll ever find out.
This might be acceptable if it weren't for the USA's bizarre drug
laws which sees people jailed for years for possession of cannabis.
A young woman, Renee Boje, is facing 20 years to life for such
an offence. The real reason for her persecution is that she is linked
to California's Proposal Proposition 215 but the public don't hear
that.
So while the pumped up heroes strutt their stuff the US public
and Aussie sycophants sit in peaceful bliss. It makes me sick.
Pete
P.J.Davies
Somebody Else wrote:
:When did he test? I believe they're allowed to take steroids.
>Well, if they're all taking steroids, then they're on a level playing
>field. So we get back to my first point - that anyone who plays
>US major league Baseball and NFL is an exceptional athlete.
What about their sponsors? Level playing fields don't exist when
you have billion dollar sponsors.
So it's OK for a person playing a violent game to take muscle
enhancers. Meanwhile a person, Renee Boje, who hasn't harmed
a soul faces life imprisonment for possession of cannabis. It's a
sick world and our country blindly follows such evil.
When a rich white male is found selling drugs people talk
about privacy but when an unknown is found with some
Cannabis it is life imprisonment. Where is that level playing
field Bunny?
Pete
P.J.Davies
>There is nothing to say that he has taken ANYTHING. Do we assume that,
>because he's American and he's good, he must be a drug cheat.
Are you really such a naive sycophant that you think Ben Johnson
was a trail blazing drug cheat? The USA have been leaders in so
many technological disciplines for a while now. Do you think they
would allow their billion dollar athletes to use old technology?
South American peasants, Renee Boje and many others have
found that brilliant technology works against them.
Pete
Roy Marshall
Cheers Roy
Greg Pankhurst
wrote:
>Pardon me if I'm wrong but wasn't Ben Johnson Canadian?
Heh. 100% right.
Are most people aware Carl Lewis got done for use of performance enhacing
drugs back in the 85 (?) US track team trials, but the whole thing got
swept under the carpet under threats of US boycott of the 88 Olympics ??
Greg
Phil Hobbs
>Bunny wrote:
>P.J.Davies wrote:
>Bunny wrote:
>
>>>None really compare to Deion Sanders though. Anyone who plays major
>>>league US Baseball and NFL is a pretty special athlete.
bo jackson...?
P.J.Davies
>Are most people aware Carl Lewis got done for use of performance
>enhacing drugs back in the 85 (?) US track team trials, but the whole
>thing got swept under the carpet under threats of US boycott of the
>88 Olympics ??
I didn't hear this but it comes as no great surprise.
Pluto had to be there to explain the orbits of
Neptune and Uranus.
Pete
P.J.Davies
>Pardon me if I'm wrong but wasn't Ben Johnson Canadian?
I'm sure you are correct, he is Canadian. He just didn't have
the support of the world's biggest government.
Pete