All we want now is the "you Vic's have an advantage and should play all your
games interstate ........"
Yep .. we're open for business.
Just for interest, for those that have been here a while, what other debates
get regurgitated every year over and over?
The debate on what we debate is regurgitated alot ;)
The "Why didn't the ex VFL teams have to pay 4 million bucks to join
the AFL" whinge.
Hooroo.....
that one is my favorite .... LOL
c];-)
>
>
> Just for interest, for those that have been here a while, what other debates
> get regurgitated every year over and over?
- Eddie's conflict of interests
- Who's Ozman and who's not
- Which club is the real Port Magpies from the SANFL
- Non-Vic clubs' advantages/disadvantages
- Vic clubs' advantages/disadvantages
- Salary cap advantage to Swans/Lions
- Collingwood's jumper and those others it clashes with
- Did Bickley mean to kill and dismember Wakelin or not
- Skase's mode of transportation
- Tits and relative sizes in various states (mainly JohnD)
- Biased umpiring
- Ruck infringements
- Tribunal sentences (biases and conspiracy theories)
- Various posters' sexuality and sexual crimes
- Worst behaving crowds/supporters
- Soccer's threat to AFL
- NFL's threat to AFL
- Eddie's threat to AFL
- Did AFL destroy VFL
- Did VFL & AFL destroy SANFL and WAFL
- Which was the premier AFL league prior to AFL and why
- etc etc etc
Plugger
LOL ..................... you got them all bar one .............
- Is zaccy as big a fuck-wit as he makes out to be ? ....
c];-)
>
> bjs wrote:
>
>
>> Just for interest, for those that have been here a while, what other
>> debates
>> get regurgitated every year over and over?
>
>
> - Eddie's conflict of interests
> - Who's Ozman and who's not
> - Which club is the real Port Magpies from the SANFL
> - Non-Vic clubs' advantages/disadvantages
> - Vic clubs' advantages/disadvantages
> - Salary cap advantage to Swans/Lions
> - Collingwood's jumper and those others it clashes with
> - Did Bickley mean to kill and dismember Wakelin or not
> - Skase's mode of transportation
lol
or how many time you need to change your name ;)
lol .......... i see you have followed suit ......coco or is that simmo .
c];-)
>
that should read , Skase's (where is it now) tragic form of transportation
........
c];-)
The request was for issues that were debatable...(joking).
Sadly, there are others that don't even have the excuse that they are
pretending!
The draft is restraint of trade.
No arguments!
> All we want now is the "you Vic's have an advantage and should play all
your
> games interstate ........"
*clears throat*
Well...
Depends on how many we lose interstate. Was it 4 years ago when more games
were won away than at home for the first time?
Mark Shea
Rumours of what someone did, what fucks umpires are, how piss weak the
Tribunal is, why Collingwood are wankers :^)
Toby
Yeah! And now they are given assistance money! It gets worse!!!!!!
ARRRGGHH!
Toby
Oh yes there are!
Toby
ie The Kook, Knob, Sanctiy and JD - impossible to rank them !
rank away ward boy , but the "High and Might" of this Caufield Cup is you
...
c];-)
That one's easy. If they all paid 4 million bucks to join we'd only have a
10 team comp becausemost of the Vic teams would go under!
or better still we could have made one super VIC team called in the
Victorian Crowing Eagles joined the saffle or waffle and won every grand
final since by 200+ points .
c];-)
Troll
Not biting
:-P
not at all dude .............. you get the best 2 -3 players out of each VIC
team and put them in a State of Origin super club then throw that club into
the old waffle or saffle back in the late 80's - early 90's and i doubt that
super club would have lost even once ..............
c];-)
>
>
>"Steve nunya" <do...@bother.com> wrote in message
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>
>>"KRUÐLËR©" wrote in message
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>>
>>>>The "Why didn't the ex VFL teams have to pay 4 million bucks to join
>>>>the AFL" whinge.
>>>>
>>>>
>>That one's easy. If they all paid 4 million bucks to join we'd only have a
>>10 team comp becausemost of the Vic teams would go under!
>>
>>
>>
>
>or better still we could have made one super VIC team called in the
>Victorian Crowing Eagles joined the saffle or waffle and won every grand
>final since by 200+ points .
>
>c];-)
>
>
>
>
yeah, but you'd still lose money and we'd have to come to your rescue again.
deker19
>"Stu" <.> wrote in message
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>
>>""KRUÐLËR©"" <party...@myplace.cum> wrote in message
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>>
>>>"Steve nunya" <do...@bother.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>>
>>>>"KRUÐLËR©" wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>The "Why didn't the ex VFL teams have to pay 4 million bucks to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>join
>
>
>>>>>>the AFL" whinge.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>That one's easy. If they all paid 4 million bucks to join we'd only
>>>>
>>>>
>have
>
>
>>a
>>
>>
>>>>10 team comp becausemost of the Vic teams would go under!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>or better still we could have made one super VIC team called in the
>>>Victorian Crowing Eagles joined the saffle or waffle and won every grand
>>>final since by 200+ points .
>>>
>>>
>>Troll
>>
>>Not biting
>>
>>:-P
>>
>>
>
>
>not at all dude .............. you get the best 2 -3 players out of each VIC
>team and put them in a State of Origin super club then throw that club into
>the old waffle or saffle back in the late 80's - early 90's and i doubt that
>super club would have lost even once ..............
>
>
>
that team would rarely get beaten in today's AFL.... your point is?
deker19
they all would play in the climate that they play in ....If AFL players were
getting what NBA and Euro soccer stars play for then what they get here
would be regarded as peanuts .......... It's all relative to time and place
..........
c];-)
>
Not at all dude ......... you helped out a few stragglers at the bottom end
of the VFL and it took all your States resources to do it via one super team
. That same team struggled to win flags early on even though it came into
being with incredible advantages , supporters base , finances and a super
star line up .........
c];-)
and what I'm trying to say , is back then all players would have been on X
amounts , as those were the figures paid to players . .So they would have
all stayed after all can you see a saffle or waffle club from then being
able to afford 1 VIC champion let alone 2 .....I think not ..
c];-)
Sorry to butt in, but I don't recall 'dude' ever used so much ever in a
persons vocabulary :P
yep , i need to work on that bloke ...... ;P
c];-)
>
>
no what I'm saying is that the VIC players (if it happened) would have
played in those leagues .Back then only the real star plays got the big
dollars ....... players in VIC or other States would have been on similar
money ...not drastically more in VIC ............ Interstaters that came
over , came to play in the best competition and not for the extra $$$$$
unless they were super stars at saffle or waffle level ...........
Obviously if the talent was shared around you would have an even competition
.But us VIC's would stick together just to show you lesser States how good
we really are ...
c];-)
>
> Not at all dude ......... you helped out a few stragglers at the bottom
end
> of the VFL and it took all your States resources to do it via one super
team
> . That same team struggled to win flags early on even though it came into
> being with incredible advantages , supporters base , finances and a super
> star line up .........
errr... what extra advantages?
Like having a few extra pics to get our list up from '0' to 'a squad'?
You guys had equal shot at those players, Kemp made it through to 100. Just
you guys were too Vic-centric to see the talent.
>""KRUĞLËR©"" <party...@myplace.cum> wrote in message
Of course the drafting "no go" zone protecting W.A. players so the
Eagles could get them never existed, did it?
- -
Regards, David.
David Clayton, e-mail: dcs...@XYZ.myrealbox.com
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
(Remove the "XYZ." to reply)
Dilbert's words of wisdom #18: Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.
Might have. I cant remember the fine details but i recall a restriction on
WA players for the early round(s?) of the early drafts. So? We wanted WA
boys to play in our team, and its not like you guys were clamouring over
them anyway. You were all already well stocked with Vic & our boys which
you picked up , ironically - free from any interstate leeching.
now i'm really laughing ;)
deker19
>"Stu" <.> contributed the following:
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>
>
>>""KRUĞLËR©"" <party...@myplace.cum> wrote in message
>>news:4046857e$0$28870$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
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>>
>>
>>>Not at all dude ......... you helped out a few stragglers at the bottom
>>>
>>>
>>end
>>
>>
>>>of the VFL and it took all your States resources to do it via one super
>>>
>>>
>>team
>>
>>
>>>. That same team struggled to win flags early on even though it came into
>>>being with incredible advantages , supporters base , finances and a super
>>>star line up .........
>>>
>>>
>>errr... what extra advantages?
>>
>>Like having a few extra pics to get our list up from '0' to 'a squad'?
>>
>>You guys had equal shot at those players, Kemp made it through to 100. Just
>>you guys were too Vic-centric to see the talent.
>>
>>
>>
>Of course the drafting "no go" zone protecting W.A. players so the
>Eagles could get them never existed, did it?
>
2 years of it too. A friend of mine had a brother who could have had a
chance at AFL
but the Eagles didn't want him. He went on to captain East Perth and
have a long WAFL career.
That moritorium killed off the hopes of a lot of young WA AFL hopefuls,
as you can imagine.
It's one thing to have the talent, but to actually get noticed and given
a chance was a lot harder
back then. And then to have your options limited to being able to be
drafted by only one team,
is unfair.
deker19
>"David Clayton" <dcs...@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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>
>>"Stu" <.> contributed the following:
>>
>>
>>
>>>""KRUĞLËR©"" <party...@myplace.cum> wrote in message
>>>news:4046857e$0$28870$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Not at all dude ......... you helped out a few stragglers at the bottom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>end
>>>
>>>
>>>>of the VFL and it took all your States resources to do it via one super
>>>>
>>>>
>>>team
>>>
>>>
>>>>. That same team struggled to win flags early on even though it came
>>>>
>>>>
>into
>
>
>>>>being with incredible advantages , supporters base , finances and a
>>>>
>>>>
>super
>
>
>>>>star line up .........
>>>>
>>>>
>>>errr... what extra advantages?
>>>
>>>Like having a few extra pics to get our list up from '0' to 'a squad'?
>>>
>>>You guys had equal shot at those players, Kemp made it through to 100.
>>>
>>>
>Just
>
>
>>>you guys were too Vic-centric to see the talent.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Of course the drafting "no go" zone protecting W.A. players so the
>>Eagles could get them never existed, did it?
>>
>>
>
>Might have. I cant remember the fine details but i recall a restriction on
>WA players for the early round(s?) of the early drafts. So? We wanted WA
>boys to play in our team, and its not like you guys were clamouring over
>them anyway. You were all already well stocked with Vic & our boys which
>you picked up , ironically - free from any interstate leeching.
>
>
>
>
It wasn't only the early rounds, it was WA players, full stop. Read up
on it and you will learn that
the Eagles have a huge association with the decline of WA footy.
Quite ironic considering
Toddy's recent whinges. Not that I'm totally against what Toddy is
saying. Vlad the Impaler
needs his left nut removed.
deker19
lol ...
c];-)
>
> "Steve nunya" <do...@bother.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "KRUаLЫRЉ" wrote in message
Stephen Micheal. The *best* player to ever *not* play VFL. Obviously the
$'s weren't ever going to be a lure for him.
Toby
>
> "Steve nunya" <do...@bother.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "KRUаLЫRЉ" wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Steve nunya" <do...@bother.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "KRUаLЫRЉ" wrote in message
Is that why you Vics lost the first ever State of Origin?
Toby
> "Stu" <.> contributed the following:
>
>> ""KRU№LиR©"" <party...@myplace.cum> wrote in message
>> news:4046857e$0$28870$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>
>>> Not at all dude ......... you helped out a few stragglers at the bottom
>> end
>>> of the VFL and it took all your States resources to do it via one super
>> team
>>> . That same team struggled to win flags early on even though it came into
>>> being with incredible advantages , supporters base , finances and a super
>>> star line up .........
>>
>> errr... what extra advantages?
>>
>> Like having a few extra pics to get our list up from '0' to 'a squad'?
>>
>> You guys had equal shot at those players, Kemp made it through to 100. Just
>> you guys were too Vic-centric to see the talent.
>>
> Of course the drafting "no go" zone protecting W.A. players so the
> Eagles could get them never existed, did it?
David, don't forget the other concessions, especially in 1989 when Indian
Pacific were nearly bust, and it took the WAFC's intervention to bale them
out of monetry trouble, and the VFL to grant two extra pre-draft
concessions, inclucing Gehrig, to make sure the club didn't fold.
Toby
Matie if you get the best 22 from each State it's close , but as far as
producing AFL level footballers go .Well I ask you this ...How many are
coming from the lesser States into the AFL ..............hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
c];-)
LOL .... That's one ............ I think in an interview once he said it was
the weather (or lack of it) that made him decide not to come .........
c];-)
your kidding................. .if a kids that good , he would of been
spotted .........all clubs have numerous spotters all over the country ...
facts are fact , a HUGE % that get into the AFL are from VIC and that's
because by far we produce the best footballers .........
c];-)
>
> "Epigram" <a...@dead.com.au> wrote in message
> news:BC6E35A1.C40D%a...@dead.com.au...
>> For some reason "KRUрLлR?" espied...
>>
>>>
>>> "Steve nunya" <do...@bother.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "KRUрLлR?" wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>> "Steve nunya" <do...@bother.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:c267hb$6et$1...@mws-stat-syd.cdn.telstra.com.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "KRUрLлR?" wrote in message
A few years back the "West Australian" and local 7 and 9 stations bemoaned
that grassroots footy was doomed because only 2 kids were drafted, unlike
the "glory days" when the Wiggles started up and picked up nearly the entire
U19's champions (the WA boys).
But it's all swings and roundabouts. This year a large group of WA talent
went to the non WA AFL clubs. It has absolutely *nothing* to do with a club
being Victorian.
Toby
do you actually know the %'s of players drafted into the AFL from the lesser
States ?
c];-)
>
> Toby
>
>
> "Epigram" <a...@dead.com.au> wrote in message
> news:BC6E3539.C40C%a...@dead.com.au...
>> For some reason "KRUрLлR?" espied...
>>
>>>
>>> "Steve nunya" <do...@bother.com> wrote in message
>>> news:c267hb$6et$1...@mws-stat-syd.cdn.telstra.com.au...
>>>>
>>>> "KRUрLлR?" wrote in message
It's a logical proof; come up with a hypothesis, and you don't try to prove
it, you seek to disprove it. If you can't disprove it, it *might* be
correct. One example disproving a theory is all that's needed.
Toby
LOL ..Mate I'm just stating what he said in an interview .Never the less you
have come up with ONE name , do you have another ........
I think you should leave this one alone DUDE .........
c];-)
>
And you don't take into account that Victoria, of all the footy states has
by far the largest population?
Toby
>
> "Epigram" <a...@dead.com.au> wrote in message
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>> For some reason "KRU?LER?" espied...
>>
>>>
>>> "Epigram" <a...@dead.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:BC6E35A1.C40D%a...@dead.com.au...
>>>> For some reason "KRU№LыR?" espied...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Steve nunya" <do...@bother.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:c26cvo$9ir$1...@mws-stat-syd.cdn.telstra.com.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "KRU№LыR?" wrote in message
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Steve nunya" <do...@bother.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:c267hb$6et$1...@mws-stat-syd.cdn.telstra.com.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "KRU№LыR?" wrote in message
You and your "lesser" states. Jeez, are you an imperialist or what! Now
wonder your state is named after a Queen who was a druggie;l cocaine,
heroine, weed....
No, I don't have the stats at hand. But a bit of number crunching of the
AFL's records and the stats would be available.
BTW, how many of your club's list are not from Vic, or more importantly,
from the NT?
Toby
>
> "Epigram" <a...@dead.com.au> wrote in message
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>> For some reason "KRU?LER?" espied...
>>
>>>
>>> "Epigram" <a...@dead.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:BC6E3539.C40C%a...@dead.com.au...
>>>> For some reason "KRU№LыR?" espied...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Steve nunya" <do...@bother.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:c267hb$6et$1...@mws-stat-syd.cdn.telstra.com.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "KRU№LыR?" wrote in message
I think you should leave your dude alone. But thankyou anyway for regarding
me as highly respected, fashionable and up to date :^)
Toby
I do and yet we dominate the %'s of players drafted far more than the ratio
to population with the lesser States ......
c];-)
We have more than a few , we got burnt badly with Wanga and before that Ando
yet we still draft from the lesser States .....
hey your from Fremantle , i just assumed
:)
c];-)
> > > your kidding................. .if a kids that good , he would of been
> > > spotted .........all clubs have numerous spotters all over the country
> ...
> > >
> > > facts are fact , a HUGE % that get into the AFL are from VIC and
that's
> > > because by far we produce the best footballers .........
> >
> > And you don't take into account that Victoria, of all the footy states
has
> > by far the largest population?
>
> I do and yet we dominate the %'s of players drafted far more than the
ratio
> to population with the lesser States ......
But not flags :-P
>
> "Epigram" <a...@dead.com.au> wrote in message
> news:BC6E4F8A.C482%a...@dead.com.au...
>> For some reason "KRU?LER?" espied...
>>
>>>
>>> "Epigram" <a...@dead.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:BC6E4863.C468%a...@dead.com.au...
>>>> For some reason "KRU?LER?" espied...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Epigram" <a...@dead.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>> news:BC6E35A1.C40D%a...@dead.com.au...
>>>>>> For some reason "KRUЙLћR?" espied...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Steve nunya" <do...@bother.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:c26cvo$9ir$1...@mws-stat-syd.cdn.telstra.com.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "KRUЙLћR?" wrote in message
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Steve nunya" <do...@bother.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:c267hb$6et$1...@mws-stat-syd.cdn.telstra.com.au...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "KRUЙLћR?" wrote in message
Oh dear, drafting from "lesser" states, and yet you still get top quality
players from them!
Toby
> >> BTW, how many of your club's list are not from Vic, or more
> >> importantly, from the NT?
> >
> > We have more than a few , we got burnt badly with Wanga and before
> > that Ando yet we still draft from the lesser States .....
>
> Oh dear, drafting from "lesser" states, and yet you still get top
> quality players from them!
Yeah, the captain's not too shabby :)
--
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Sorry Stu , but your wrong , over the last 5 years the flags have been won
by 2 VIC teams and the other 3 by a non football State side that is loaded
to the hilt with VIC boys .........and a few from the lesser States
.........
c];-)
I wouldn't call Ando "top quality" but you get your players if they can play
from any where including the lesser State . Thank heaven VIC produces so
much talent that our list has a very % from our great State .
c];-)
The whole family history is VIC , was in Canberra due to his father going
there for work purposes ........... I'm sure he is very comfortably set up
in East Melb and plans to go back to glitzy Canberra are on the back burner
........
c];-)
> > > I do and yet we dominate the %'s of players drafted far more than the
> > ratio
> > > to population with the lesser States ......
> >
> > But not flags :-P
>
> Sorry Stu , but your wrong , over the last 5 years the flags have been won
> by 2 VIC teams and the other 3 by a non football State side that is loaded
> to the hilt with VIC boys .........and a few from the lesser States
> .........
1997 Adelaide
1998 Adelaide
1999 Kangaroos
2000 Essendon
2001 Brisbane
2002 Brisbane
2003 Brisbane
2004 .....
Thats 2 from 8.
Your boys playing for the interstaters? pfft.
Our boys made you look good for the last 50 years.
Payback!
> > > Oh dear, drafting from "lesser" states, and yet you still get top
> > > quality players from them!
> >
> > Yeah, the captain's not too shabby :)
>
> The whole family history is VIC , was in Canberra due to his father
> going there for work purposes ........... I'm sure he is very
> comfortably set up in East Melb and plans to go back to glitzy
> Canberra are on the back burner
Well, der. The interesting question was whether he would have been
chosen at all (pick 78, IIRC) if he didn't have the family history with
the club -- a question I've never seen answered...
always showed a ton of ability at junior level ...........had a knee
reconstruction when playing at junior level and was in the age group that
the kids get drafted ...... was always going to be a late draft pick due to
his injuries . thank heaven we got him ........
c];-)
I went back 5 years as I thought we'd go most recent .If it's a history
lesson you want , then that's what you shall have ..
:)
We took in teams from the lesser States as of 1981 with the inception of
Sydney ........
So we have 7 flags from 23 years ...........
Then we took in a further 2 more in 1987 ...............
So we have 7 flags from 18 years ..............
We then took in another in 1991 ..........
So we have 7 flags from 13 years .........
Of those 7 flags only 4 are from genuine footy States and neither of those 2
States have won a flag for 5+ years .........
Brisbane is a bullshit team made up of players from all over (Mainly VIC) &
(including from the lesser States like S.A and W.A) .......It would have won
nothing if it didn't have it's ridiculous salary cap advantages over the
genuine footy States ......
c];-)
>
> Your boys playing for the interstaters? pfft.
> Our boys made you look good for the last 50 years.
> Payback!
>
>
"Our boys made you look good for the last 50 years" ..that's the funniest
thing I've seen written in months ..........I take it your a stand up
comedian dude , yes ?
c];-)
>
> "Epigram" <a...@dead.com.au> wrote in message
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>> For some reason "KRU?LER?" espied...
>>
>>>
>>> "Epigram" <a...@dead.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:BC6E4F8A.C482%a...@dead.com.au...
>>>> For some reason "KRU?LER?" espied...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Epigram" <a...@dead.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>> news:BC6E4863.C468%a...@dead.com.au...
>>>>>> For some reason "KRU?LER?" espied...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Epigram" <a...@dead.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:BC6E35A1.C40D%a...@dead.com.au...
>>>>>>>> For some reason "KRUЩL?R?" espied...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Steve nunya" <do...@bother.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:c26cvo$9ir$1...@mws-stat-syd.cdn.telstra.com.au...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "KRUЩL?R?" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> <4046b37a$0$5870$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au>...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Steve nunya" <do...@bother.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:c267hb$6et$1...@mws-stat-syd.cdn.telstra.com.au...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "KRUЩL?R?" wrote in message
Were you Jeff Kennett's speech writer?
Toby
LOL ............ God I hated that prick ............
c];-)
> > 1997 Adelaide
> > 1998 Adelaide
> > 1999 Kangaroos
> > 2000 Essendon
> > 2001 Brisbane
> > 2002 Brisbane
> > 2003 Brisbane
> > 2004 .....
> >
> > Thats 2 from 8.
>
> I went back 5 years as I thought we'd go most recent .If it's a history
> lesson you want , then that's what you shall have ..
>
> :)
ooh
<pooping noise>
> We took in teams from the lesser States as of 1981 with the inception of
> Sydney ........
>
> So we have 7 flags from 23 years ...........
Impressive start.
> Then we took in a further 2 more in 1987 ...............
2 cups in one year?
See - you have to cheat to win!
> So we have 7 flags from 18 years ..............
>
> We then took in another in 1991 ..........
>
> So we have 7 flags from 13 years .........
Still, not really good enough for 50% of the competition is it?
Especially as you claim them to be the stronger half. Whichever way you
present the statistics, the best you can manage is even honours.
Which is a win to us. :-P
> > Your boys playing for the interstaters? pfft.
> > Our boys made you look good for the last 50 years.
> > Payback!
>
> "Our boys made you look good for the last 50 years" ..that's the funniest
> thing I've seen written in months ..........I take it your a stand up
> comedian dude , yes ?
Only when im pissed. Which was an awful lot last weekend. I came over to
bleak city for the GP and came home with a freaking cold. Any chance you
lot will turn on a warm March some time soon? Rained 3/5 days!
Mind it was good to watch the Saints run all over the Dons at that huge ass
indoor stadium that the League built you guys.
:-P
Actually just as many Brisbane players come from Qld as they do from SA.
LOL ...enough said ..................
> ""KRUаLЫRЉ"" <party...@myplace.cum> wrote in message
> news:4048fbc0$0$8360$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
[...]
>> "Our boys made you look good for the last 50 years" ..that's the funniest
>> thing I've seen written in months ..........I take it your a stand up
>> comedian dude , yes ?
>
> Only when im pissed. Which was an awful lot last weekend. I came over to
> bleak city for the GP and came home with a freaking cold. Any chance you
> lot will turn on a warm March some time soon? Rained 3/5 days!
Ah, memories of Gotham flood back, to the short time I lived in Richmond.
"You've gotta see St Kilda, it's the best!" I was told. So I did. And it's
a pale immatation of Fremantle. But at least I worked out why people wear
their team's scarf on Fridays - because it's *fucking* cold!
> Mind it was good to watch the Saints run all over the Dons at that huge ass
> indoor stadium that the League built you guys.
Roof opens, roof shuts, roof opens, roof shuts, roof opens, roof shuts.....
What dickhead decided to align the goals, so that the sun inconviently
shines off that god-awful city centre and blinds everyone? (That's the odd
occasion when the sun does shine).
Toby
> "KRUÐLËR©" wrote:
>> "Stu" <.> wrote in message
>> news:40484cfa$0$27642$61ce...@news.syd.swiftdsl.com.au...
>>
>>> ""KRUÐLËR©"" <party...@myplace.cum> wrote in message
[...]
>> Of those 7 flags only 4 are from genuine footy States and neither of those 2
>> States have won a flag for 5+ years .........
>>
>> Brisbane is a bullshit team made up of players from all over (Mainly VIC) &
>> (including from the lesser States like S.A and W.A) .......It would have won
>> nothing if it didn't have it's ridiculous salary cap advantages over the
>> genuine footy States ......
>
> Actually just as many Brisbane players come from Qld as they do from SA.
Krud seems to have a thing about cultural imperialism. Anyone not from the
state named after a queen who was a junkie on coke, dope and heroine is
somehow "lesser". Ironic, isn't it?
Toby
heheehheheheeeeeeee exactly .................
>
> "Epigram" <a...@dead.com.au> wrote in message
> news:BC7635E8.C748%a...@dead.com.au...
>> For some reason Cocoboy espied...
>>
>>> "KRUаLЫRЉ" wrote:
>>>> "Stu" <.> wrote in message
>>>> news:40484cfa$0$27642$61ce...@news.syd.swiftdsl.com.au...
>>>>
>>>>> ""KRUаLЫRЉ"" <party...@myplace.cum> wrote in message
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>> Of those 7 flags only 4 are from genuine footy States and neither of
> those 2
>>>> States have won a flag for 5+ years .........
>>>>
>>>> Brisbane is a bullshit team made up of players from all over (Mainly
> VIC) &
>>>> (including from the lesser States like S.A and W.A) .......It would
> have won
>>>> nothing if it didn't have it's ridiculous salary cap advantages over
> the
>>>> genuine footy States ......
>>>
>>> Actually just as many Brisbane players come from Qld as they do from SA.
>>
>> Krud seems to have a thing about cultural imperialism. Anyone not from
> the
>> state named after a queen who was a junkie on coke, dope and heroine is
>> somehow "lesser". Ironic, isn't it?
> heheehheheheeeeeeee exactly .................
The sun set on her years ago! As did it on her empire.
BTW, have you visited our richer state per capita with lower unemployment,
higher incomes, and better quality yet lower cost housing? :^P
Toby
LOL ......I'm trying to envisage why they are cheaper then !!
c];-)
>
> Toby
>
>
> "Epigram" <a...@dead.com.au> wrote in message
> news:BC764B88.C79F%a...@dead.com.au...
>> For some reason "KRUрLлR?" espied...
>>
>>>
>>> "Epigram" <a...@dead.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:BC7635E8.C748%a...@dead.com.au...
>>>> For some reason Cocoboy espied...
>>>>
>>>>> "KRUрLлR?" wrote:
>>>>>> "Stu" <.> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:40484cfa$0$27642$61ce...@news.syd.swiftdsl.com.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ""KRUрLлR?"" <party...@myplace.cum> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>>> Of those 7 flags only 4 are from genuine footy States and neither of
>>> those 2
>>>>>> States have won a flag for 5+ years .........
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brisbane is a bullshit team made up of players from all over (Mainly
>>> VIC) &
>>>>>> (including from the lesser States like S.A and W.A) .......It would
>>> have won
>>>>>> nothing if it didn't have it's ridiculous salary cap advantages over
>>> the
>>>>>> genuine footy States ......
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually just as many Brisbane players come from Qld as they do from
> SA.
>>>>
>>>> Krud seems to have a thing about cultural imperialism. Anyone not from
>>> the
>>>> state named after a queen who was a junkie on coke, dope and heroine is
>>>> somehow "lesser". Ironic, isn't it?
>>
>>> heheehheheheeeeeeee exactly .................
>>
>> The sun set on her years ago! As did it on her empire.
>> BTW, have you visited our richer state per capita with lower unemployment,
>> higher incomes, and better quality yet lower cost housing? :^P
>
>
> LOL ......I'm trying to envisage why they are cheaper then !!
Because the tendency is to build houses people want to live in when they
leave Misery Capital to come here. Oh, and that all the raw materials are
close by and readilly available. And land is cheap. And etcetera.
Better than Bleak City's endless brick venear or warped wood plank.
Must be some reason as to why Melbourne is slowly shrinking yet Perth Metro
has 3 of the 5 fastest growing cities in Oz. And unlike Brissy/Gold coast,
the average age is getting younger. Interesting.
Also interesting that the Perth Metro Area is larger than Melbourne's. It's
great to live on the ocean (something Melbourne doesn't have), and shitloads
of parklands, and none of the slums. (Ok, we do have one slum - Brownly
Towers, but's scheduled to be demolished).
You lot have slums called "Collingwood" and "Essendon" :^P
Toby
LOL ................. Obviously you haven't been to Essendon (a suburb in
which I own property) .........Look it up on the net the "average price" may
floor you , let alone the top end prices ...........
c];-)
Collingwood too (even though it's an absolute shit hole) gets phenomenal
prices ............
c];-)
thats about to change if you bought there!
>
>c];-)
>
As you know it's always been one of Melbourne's blue ribbon areas and
expensive , I was fortunate enough to buy mine well before the prices took
off all over Melbourne . The thought of buying something these days is scary
.
I was looking at a average to nice property last weekend in Pascoe Vale
South (average area) and on a busy street ....... I went there thinking I
had it in the bag as I had a budget of $480,000 (which I thought would be a
shoe in ) to spend . IT GOT PAST IN FOR $555,000 unbelievable ........ That
would have meant just to give the blood suckers in the Govt their taxes I
would have been up for about $35,000 ............ I really do pity anyone
starting out today looking for a first home in a half decent area
...............
c];-)
> >
> >c];-)
> >
>
>
> "Epigram" <a...@dead.com.au> wrote in message
> news:BC77BA3B.C830%a...@dead.com.au...
>> For some reason "KRU?LER?" espied...
>>
>>>
>>> "Epigram" <a...@dead.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:BC764B88.C79F%a...@dead.com.au...
>>>> For some reason "KRU№LыR?" espied...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Epigram" <a...@dead.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>> news:BC7635E8.C748%a...@dead.com.au...
>>>>>> For some reason Cocoboy espied...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "KRU№LыR?" wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Stu" <.> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:40484cfa$0$27642$61ce...@news.syd.swiftdsl.com.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ""KRU№LыR?"" <party...@myplace.cum> wrote in message
I have.
> (a suburb in
> which I own property) .........Look it up on the net the "average price" may
> floor you , let alone the top end prices ...........
That's because prices in Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne are inflated. It's
what happens when auctioneers move in (and I should know, my dad was one
until his retirement). Melbourne's average prices increased by 0.1% last
year - hardly an investment market.
Toby
>
> "Epigram" <a...@dead.com.au> wrote in message
> news:BC77BA3B.C830%a...@dead.com.au...
>> For some reason "KRU?LER?" espied...
>>
>>>
>>> "Epigram" <a...@dead.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:BC764B88.C79F%a...@dead.com.au...
>>>> For some reason "KRU№LыR?" espied...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Epigram" <a...@dead.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>> news:BC7635E8.C748%a...@dead.com.au...
>>>>>> For some reason Cocoboy espied...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "KRU№LыR?" wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Stu" <.> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:40484cfa$0$27642$61ce...@news.syd.swiftdsl.com.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ""KRU№LыR?"" <party...@myplace.cum> wrote in message
It's called "desperation".
Toby
Melbournes prices up by .1% last year !!!!!! , mate have you got your facts
wrong .............
c];-)
Expensive but probably Melbourne's ugliest suburb ..Has nothing going for it
............ I should know , lived in Fitzroy all my younger life and went
to Collingwood High ........ (can't you tell from my grammar and spelling)
..
c];-)
>
Tell me that the finance report by the ABC was wrong, which they obtained
direct from the BoS.
Toby