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Andrew

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Apr 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/28/97
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My theory is that the real hero of Star Wars is Luke's mate, Wedge.
I mean without Wedge the rebelion would have crumbled ages ago.

He's at lukes back protecting him in the battle of Yavin in Star Wars.
He's there with Lando when they blow the Death Star reactor in ROTJ.
He's everywhere!!

and yet he only has a few lines here and there, and only a few shots.
We never learn about him.

Mark Hamil is a dud. I say bring on Wedge!!!!!!!

Can anyone remember anymore bits that feature Wedge??
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Guy Dyson

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Apr 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/29/97
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"Andrew" <snip-thi...@millstream.com.au> writes:
>Mark Hamil is a dud. I say bring on Wedge!!!!!!!

>Can anyone remember anymore bits that feature Wedge??

You know he has his own newsgroup, alt.fan.wegde and the FAQ lists every
line he spekas and ever action he performs in the movies.

And yes, he is way better than Luke!


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Kenneally Harder

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Apr 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/29/97
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: "Andrew" <snip-thi...@millstream.com.au> writes:
: >Mark Hamil is a dud. I say bring on Wedge!!!!!!!
: >Can anyone remember anymore bits that feature Wedge??

Sure - The battle of Hoth!! When Dak is taken out, Luke asks Wedge and
his gunner take down an AT-AT with harpoon and tow cable. Can't remember
Wedge's dialogue but he says something like "Good shooting!" and then
"That got him!".

Agreed, Wedge is the silent hero, and possibly the only other alliance
pilot next to Luke who made it through all three films. :)

See ya,

Kenneally

Grant Watson

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Apr 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/29/97
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s32...@student.uq.edu.au (Kenneally Harder) wrote:

>Agreed, Wedge is the silent hero, and possibly the only other alliance
>pilot next to Luke who made it through all three films. :)

I was always annoyed that Luke, Wedge, Han and Chewie are the only
survivors of the final assault run on the Death Star.
Luke and Han get medals, Chewie gets to stand up in front of the
Rebel Alliance and Wedge... zip.

Mind you, Kenner is at *last* producing a Wedge action figure. I
remember desperately wanting one as a child.

Cheers!
Grant.


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Stephen Dedman

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Apr 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/30/97
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s32...@student.uq.edu.au (Kenneally Harder) writes:

>Grant Watson (nz...@iinet.net.au) wrote:


>: s32...@student.uq.edu.au (Kenneally Harder) wrote:
>:
>: >Agreed, Wedge is the silent hero, and possibly the only other alliance
>: >pilot next to Luke who made it through all three films. :)
>:
>: I was always annoyed that Luke, Wedge, Han and Chewie are the only
>: survivors of the final assault run on the Death Star.
>: Luke and Han get medals, Chewie gets to stand up in front of the
>: Rebel Alliance and Wedge... zip.
>:
>: Mind you, Kenner is at *last* producing a Wedge action figure. I
>: remember desperately wanting one as a child.

>I was lucky I guess, I had two Luke Skywalkers in X-Wing pilot uniforms,
>and simply named one "Wedge". :)

>See ya,

>Kenneally

>So is Wedge his last name or first...? :)

Indubitably. I could not have put it better myself. (Gilbert, _Sandman_)

I 1st saw _Star Wars_ as a teenager, and while I was tempted to collect
the toys, I didn't (I do, however, have most of the original badges,
including the misspelled 'Darth Vadar Lives'. They're for sale if you
want them.) But watching 'Return of the Return of the Jedi' on the
weekend, I wondered if they'd ever brought out a toy of Princess Leia in
that costume she wore while chained to Jabba. After all, they brought out
one of the bounty hunter costume she wore for a much shorter time...

- Stephen Dedman
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Robert Masters

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Apr 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/30/97
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In <5k5u0q$tv6$2...@nargun.cc.uq.edu.au> s32...@student.uq.edu.au (Kenneally Harder) writes:

>Grant Watson (nz...@iinet.net.au) wrote:
>: s32...@student.uq.edu.au (Kenneally Harder) wrote:
>: >Agreed, Wedge is the silent hero, and possibly the only other alliance
>: >pilot next to Luke who made it through all three films. :)
>: I was always annoyed that Luke, Wedge, Han and Chewie are the only
>: survivors of the final assault run on the Death Star.
>: Luke and Han get medals, Chewie gets to stand up in front of the
>: Rebel Alliance and Wedge... zip.
>: Mind you, Kenner is at *last* producing a Wedge action figure. I

>So is Wedge his last name or first...? :)

First name. Antillies. Wedge Antillies. Lieutenant, I think.

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Stephen Dedman

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Apr 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/30/97
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Just remembered, Wedge's full name is Wedge Antilles. He's related,
somehow, to Captain Antilles, previous owner of C-3PO and R2-D2 and
captain of the blockade runner.

- Stephen Dedman

Ankh

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Apr 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/30/97
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> s32...@student.uq.edu.au (Kenneally Harder) writes:
> >So is Wedge his last name or first...? :)

Wedge Antilles.

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Grant Watson

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Apr 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/30/97
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ded...@perth.dialix.com.au (Stephen Dedman) wrote:

>I 1st saw _Star Wars_ as a teenager, and while I was tempted to collect
>the toys, I didn't (I do, however, have most of the original badges,
>including the misspelled 'Darth Vadar Lives'. They're for sale if you
>want them.) But watching 'Return of the Return of the Jedi' on the
>weekend, I wondered if they'd ever brought out a toy of Princess Leia in
>that costume she wore while chained to Jabba. After all, they brought out
>one of the bounty hunter costume she wore for a much shorter time...

No, they didn't.
But they are *now*. :-)

Robert A. Woodward

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Apr 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/30/97
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> > s32...@student.uq.edu.au (Kenneally Harder) writes:
> > >So is Wedge his last name or first...? :)
>
> Wedge Antilles.
>

If you don't mind a lurker from the other side of the Pacific horning in
this discussion, I want to declare that the real hero of Star Wars is not
Wedge Antilles; the real hero is R2D2. After all, who delivered the
message to Obi-Wan? Who hacked computers on the Death Star to find Leia in
the first place? Who, ... well you get the idea.

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Chris Hadgis

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May 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/1/97
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Robert Masters writes:

> First name. Antillies. Wedge Antillies. Lieutenant, I think.

Was his middle intial 'E'?

Wedge E., Wedge-E, wedgie?

Well, it amused me for a moment :)

How the heck did he get a name like Wedge? Is it a given name? Is it
a nickname? Am I getting to obsessed about this?

ChrisH

Matthew Webster

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May 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/1/97
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Stephen Dedman (ded...@perth.dialix.com.au) wrote:

<snip>

: weekend, I wondered if they'd ever brought out a toy of Princess Leia in

: that costume she wore while chained to Jabba.

I was looking through my flatmate's latest "Wizard" magazine, and in their
toys section they had a preview of Kenner's latest Star Wars figures. Sure
enough there was a big glossy pic of "Enslaved Leia" (with her own
choker-chain!!!). Way-hey!! :)


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Martin Livings

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May 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/1/97
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Actually, I've always wanted to see the story of that white C3P0 clone on
board Leia's ship at the very beginning of the first film. He runs one
way, golden boy and garbage can went the other. I want to know HIS story.
B-)


MJL97


Robert A. Woodward <robe...@halcyon.com> wrote:

: > > >So is Wedge his last name or first...? :)

Malcolm Davis

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May 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/1/97
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Chris Hadgis <chr...@mincom.oz.au> wrote in article
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Well how does one get a name like 'Skywalker'????? Geez, I'd be damned
embarrased to be called such a name. Then remember 'Dack', Luke's gunner in
'Empire' - even 'Han Solo' and 'Lando Calrissian' sounds pretentious.

Malcolm

Julian Kelsey

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May 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/2/97
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Malcolm Davis wrote:

>
> Well how does one get a name like 'Skywalker'????? Geez, I'd be damned
> embarrased to be called such a name. Then remember 'Dack', Luke's gunner in
> 'Empire' - even 'Han Solo' and 'Lando Calrissian' sounds pretentious.

Calrissian does not sound pretentious - it sounds like a variety of
rice.

Cheers,
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http://www.st.nepean.uws.edu.au/~julian

Grant Watson

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May 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/2/97
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All Star Wars pilots have silly names:

Skywalker
Wedge
Biggs
(my favourite:) Porkins
Dack

and so on and so forth.

Andrew

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May 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/2/97
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But.......

Will they make a life size version? ;)
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Steven

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May 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/5/97
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Actually, Wedge is *not* related to the Capt Antillies that was the last
Master of 3PO & R2.......

According to the books and 'stuff', Wedges parents were owners of a
space station, and they were killed when a smuggler tried to take off
from his docking bay, still attached to the station. The resulting
explosion killed Wedge's parents......

He Went on and bought his own ship and tried to transport legal cargo,
but soon found it was hard to make ends meet, so he stared to smuggle
weapons for the Alliance. It wasn't long before some smart cookie in the
Alliance saw Wedge's potential and the joined up with them.....

And as they say, the rest is history.

Steven

ps- I have to agree, the real hero is R2! :)

Aaron Titman

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May 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/7/97
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Steven (m...@onthenet.com.au) wrote:
>> Just remembered, Wedge's full name is Wedge Antilles. He's related,
>> somehow, to Captain Antilles, previous owner of C-3PO and R2-D2 and
>> captain of the blockade runner.
>>
>> - Stephen Dedman

>Actually, Wedge is *not* related to the Capt Antillies that was the last
>Master of 3PO & R2.......

>According to the books and 'stuff', Wedges parents were owners of a
>space station, and they were killed when a smuggler tried to take off
>from his docking bay, still attached to the station. The resulting
>explosion killed Wedge's parents......

Er just as a point of interest which Books and Stuff are you referring to?

>ps- I have to agree, the real hero is R2! :)

R2 sucks the real hero is the Great GONK!!!! :)

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Brian Grinter

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May 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/7/97
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nz...@iinet.net.au (Grant Watson) wrote:

>All Star Wars pilots have silly names:
>
>Skywalker
>Wedge
>Biggs
>(my favourite:) Porkins
>Dack
>
>and so on and so forth.
>
>Cheers!
>Grant.

They probably think Grant is a bit of a dorky name...


>
>
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>"Science fiction is about the future and fantasy
>is about the past - the myth of the way things used
>to be. Science fiction is, in a sense, trying to
>construct a myth of the future."

I prefer;

"Reality is for people who can't deal with science fiction"


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Brian Grinter

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May 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/7/97
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ded...@perth.dialix.com.au (Stephen Dedman) wrote:

>Just remembered, Wedge's full name is Wedge Antilles. He's related,
>somehow, to Captain Antilles, previous owner of C-3PO and R2-D2 and
>captain of the blockade runner.
>
>- Stephen Dedman

Not according to the X-Wing novels. Its just a common surname
(like Smith to us). The X-wing novels give the full details of his
family. He's a Corellian (same as Han)

Brian Grinter

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s32...@student.uq.edu.au (Kenneally Harder) wrote:


>So is Wedge his last name or first...? :)

Wedge Antilles is his full name.

Brian Grinter

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"Andrew" <snip-thi...@millstream.com.au> wrote:

>My theory is that the real hero of Star Wars is Luke's mate, Wedge.
>I mean without Wedge the rebelion would have crumbled ages ago.
>
>He's at lukes back protecting him in the battle of Yavin in Star Wars.
>He's there with Lando when they blow the Death Star reactor in ROTJ.
>He's everywhere!!
>
>and yet he only has a few lines here and there, and only a few shots.
>We never learn about him.
>

>Mark Hamil is a dud. I say bring on Wedge!!!!!!!
>
>Can anyone remember anymore bits that feature Wedge??

>--
>Andrew

Check out the movie LOCAL HERO. Dennis Lawson, who played
Wedge, has a major part in it. The SE only show 1 new shot of Wedge,
at the Ewok celebration where he greets Luke. Check out the web site
for Dennis Lawson (can't find the URL, use a search engine)

Timothy Hock Seng Tan

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May 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/9/97
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Brian Grinter (bgri...@onaustralia.com.au) wrote:
: nz...@iinet.net.au (Grant Watson) wrote:

: >All Star Wars pilots have silly names:
: >
: >Skywalker
: >Wedge
: >Biggs

Biggs' full name has been listed in the novels as Biggs Darklighter. But
that's also a silly name. :)

Seriously, tho', it *is* supposed to be set in the future. Nearly all SF
I've come across have wierd names for the characters, e.g. Salvor Hardin
in Asimov's Foundation. Guess the writers of SF are trying to avoid being
sued by a real person. (I've heard of someone called Riva, fr'instance,
but that's fantasy, not SF.)

B C'ing you! 8-)

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Daniel Noll

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May 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/9/97
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ghItlh 083...@bud.swin.edu.au (Timothy Hock Seng Tan) on Star Wars:


> Seriously, tho', it *is* supposed to be set in the future.

Really. So "A long time ago" now means the future, right?

daniel

Elindor Quinn

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May 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/9/97
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Timothy Hock Seng Tan seemed to indicate that...

>Brian Grinter (bgri...@onaustralia.com.au) wrote:
>: nz...@iinet.net.au (Grant Watson) wrote:
>
>: >All Star Wars pilots have silly names:
>: >
>: >Skywalker
>: >Wedge
>: >Biggs
>
>Biggs' full name has been listed in the novels as Biggs Darklighter. But
>that's also a silly name. :)

Darklighter? Sounds interesting... but still silly.

>Seriously, tho', it *is* supposed to be set in the future.

Try "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away."

>(I've heard of someone called Riva, fr'instance, but that's fantasy, not SF.)

Well, there has also been a Riva in ST:TNG. He was that mute diplomat.
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Chris Gordon

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May 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/11/97
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Kenneally Harder wrote:
>
> Grant Watson (nz...@iinet.net.au) wrote:
> : s32...@student.uq.edu.au (Kenneally Harder) wrote:
> :
> : >Agreed, Wedge is the silent hero, and possibly the only other alliance
> : >pilot next to Luke who made it through all three films. :)
> :
> : I was always annoyed that Luke, Wedge, Han and Chewie are the only
> : survivors of the final assault run on the Death Star.
> : Luke and Han get medals, Chewie gets to stand up in front of the
> : Rebel Alliance and Wedge... zip.
> :
> : Mind you, Kenner is at *last* producing a Wedge action figure. I
> : remember desperately wanting one as a child.
>
> I was lucky I guess, I had two Luke Skywalkers in X-Wing pilot uniforms,
> and simply named one "Wedge". :)
>
> See ya,
>
> Kenneally
>
> So is Wedge his last name or first...? :)

Wedge Antilles (although I guess you'll get dozens of replies)

Timothy Hock Seng Tan

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May 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/12/97
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Daniel Noll (n307...@student.anu.edu.au) wrote:
: ghItlh 083...@bud.swin.edu.au (Timothy Hock Seng Tan) on Star Wars:

: > Seriously, tho', it *is* supposed to be set in the future.
: Really. So "A long time ago" now means the future, right?

Yep. How else would you explain how humans have settled most of the
galaxy, developed technology far in advance of current tech., and
contacted aliens from at least half a dozen different worlds? (All in the
SW universe, that is.) Next you'll be telling me that it was all wiped
from the minds of the entire human race as part of a plot to unseat the
Emperor...

Elindor Quinn

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May 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/14/97
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Timothy Hock Seng Tan seemed to indicate that...
>Daniel Noll (n307...@student.anu.edu.au) wrote:
>: ghItlh 083...@bud.swin.edu.au (Timothy Hock Seng Tan) on Star Wars:
>
>: > Seriously, tho', it *is* supposed to be set in the future.
>: Really. So "A long time ago" now means the future, right?
>
>Yep. How else would you explain how humans have settled most of the
>galaxy, developed technology far in advance of current tech., and
>contacted aliens from at least half a dozen different worlds? (All in the
>SW universe, that is.) Next you'll be telling me that it was all wiped
>from the minds of the entire human race as part of a plot to unseat the
>Emperor...

As I said in a different post, it was also in a "Galaxy far, far
away." They look human simply because they evolved that way, it's far
easier to refer to them as human and it saved a hell of a lot in
costuming costs...
Elindor Quinn
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I agree he the real hero. I have been trying to convince my brother for years. He helps destroy the death star in both a new hope and rotj. He also helps Luke destroy the imperial forces on hoth in the empire strikes back. Also, at the end of rotj during the celebration luke goes up to Wedge and shakes his hand and hugs him. Chewy shakes his hand as well. Need I say more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxi3Sy4TY40 watch this and it proves the point even more.
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