VOYAGER: Caretaker!
Michael Lipwei Tay
screens in Sydney last night. The premiere kicked butt. Much better than
Encounter at Farpoint, The Emissary or S:AAB's pathetic effort.
THINGS I LIKED:
===============
* Captain Janeway
* USS Voyager
* Tuvok
* The Caretaker's array
* Most of the plot
* The CGI
* B'lenna Torres
* Harry Kim
* The Doctor
THINGS I DIDN'T LIKE:
=====================
* Janeway's voice
* Tom Paris
* Neelix
* The Kazon-Ogla (not because they're the baddies, but because we've seen it
all before)
All in all, kick butt. Let's hope this keeps up.
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(Michael Lipwei Tay) wrote:
Choppy chop chop
>
> THINGS I DIDN'T LIKE:
> =====================
> * Janeway's voice
I must agree with this. I watched the pilot and thought it was pretty
good. The effects were great, but Kate Mulgrew's voice just grated and
grated on me and that will be enough to stop me watching anymore. Sounds
trite I know but I just couldn't stand it. Perhaps I'm just too used to
the dulcet tones of Picard :-).
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>
> THINGS I LIKED:
> ===============
> * Captain Janeway
Hmmm, I'm in two minds. I feel that Kate Mulgrew is trying too hard to
prove that a woman can be a starship captain. She's too much.
> * USS Voyager
Yeah, snazzy. Like the moving nasceles.
> * Tuvok
Good to see a vulcan back. And throw in some political correctness too.
> * The Caretaker's array
Looked good.
> * Most of the plot
Yeah, even had some prime directive bending. She'll fit in as a starship
captain :-)
> * B'lenna Torres
> * Harry Kim
> * The Doctor
Yeah, all 3 very good. The Doctor has a nice comic angle too him like Bones
did.
> THINGS I DIDN'T LIKE:
> =====================
> * Janeway's voice
Probably affected my opinion of her above.
> * Tom Paris
Yeah, a bit cliche'd but I liked the way the Indian's life belongs to him
(the concept of having two characters that are linked, not the concept of
someone's life belonging to another!). Same with Paris & Kim, there's a
little bit between them. Torres & Kim too.
> * Neelix
I didn't think he was too bad. A little like throwing Quark in but they'll
need a guide. Chances are they'll use him to explain away things that they
would otherwise discover for themselves if they had 90 minutes each
episode.
> * The Kazon-Ogla (not because they're the baddies, but because we've seen it
> all before)
Where did they come from? Were they the same people as were on the planet?
I didn't think so but they reminded me of them (no time to check the
video). If they were, how does a race without water or beaming or anything
build star cruiser sized ships. And if they were not, where did they appear
from.
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Michael Lipwei Tay <ml...@wumpus.its.uow.edu.au> wrote:
>Well, after months of procrastination and delays, Caretaker finally hit our
>screens in Sydney last night. The premiere kicked butt. Much better than
>Encounter at Farpoint, The Emissary or S:AAB's pathetic effort.
>THINGS I LIKED:
>===============
>* Captain Janeway
>* USS Voyager
>* Tuvok
>* The Caretaker's array
Why? It's just a big old pile of metal.
>* Most of the plot
It was definitely better than some, and, surprisingly, although the oh-no-we-
are-lost-somewhere-a-hell-of-a-long-way-from-home plot has been done before,
this wasn't too bad.
>* The CGI
The what?
>* B'lenna Torres
>* Harry Kim
>* The Doctor
>
>THINGS I DIDN'T LIKE:
>=====================
>* Janeway's voice
After about half an hour I got used to it. Unfortunately I find I have to get
used to it every time I watch an episode.
>* Tom Paris
>* Neelix
>* The Kazon-Ogla (not because they're the baddies, but because we've seen it
> all before)
>All in all, kick butt. Let's hope this keeps up.
I don't think it'll be as bad as some people suggest.
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Kevin Lentin <kev...@fangorn.cs.monash.edu.au> wrote:
>Michael Lipwei Tay (ml...@wumpus.its.uow.edu.au) wrote:
>> * USS Voyager
>Yeah, snazzy. Like the moving nasceles.
I might have misread it, but the Paramount web site seems to say that the
folding nacelles are the solution to the environmental damage revealed in the
TNG ep "Force of Nature". I guess they had to come up with something.
>Where did they come from? Were they the same people as were on the planet?
>I didn't think so but they reminded me of them (no time to check the
>video). If they were, how does a race without water or beaming or anything
>build star cruiser sized ships. And if they were not, where did they appear
>from.
They trade for water. Neelix said the Kazon Ogla were one of the Kazon factions
who control this area, so I guess others know what they're doing. It's not
exactly convincing though.
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ROT13'd for the squeamish ... however it's wise to put a spoiler alert
before you blab. More fair on those (if there are still any) who
haven't bought or borrowed the video :)
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>THINGS I DIDN'T LIKE:
>=====================
>* Janeway's voice
What about Janeway's walk? In that scene where she is walking along
with Paris, she held her hands behind her back and looked like she was
twisting, swinging, skippin. Anything but walking.
They really should put pockets in those uniforms. That'll give them
somewhere to stick their hands.
As for the plot, a people becoming dependent on a caretaker? Now
haven't we seen that before in an old series coincidentally bearing
the same name?
But Torres is a cute little half-Klingon.
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> ROT13'd for the squeamish ... however it's wise to put a spoiler alert
> before you blab. More fair on those (if there are still any) who
> haven't bought or borrowed the video :)
>
> Cheers, Paul
> Yeah, I haven't seen them all yet, as my video machine is not working.
Cheers,
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> THINGS I DIDN'T LIKE:
> =====================
> * Janeway's voice
> * Tom Paris
Judging by previous responses, Janeway's voice will need some radical
surgery ... perhaps, for a future story-line, the holographic doctor
could painlessly remove or reconstruct the offending vocal cords. For
Paris, however, a simple lobotomy should suffice.
> * Neelix
No comment.
> * The Kazon-Ogla (not because they're the baddies, but because we've seen it
> all before)
I agree. And secondly, why would a race (without water) stay on a
planet when they had the technological means to move elsewhere? After
a millennium, you'd think they would have got the message: this planet
is dead, dead, dead! But then, all things considered, Voyager and
its crew should have cleared their system by the start of the next
episode ... which means we shouldn't see them again.
All in all, I liked the start of what looks like a promising series.
Simon.
Kevin Lentin
> >Good to see a vulcan back. And throw in some political correctness too.
>
> If humans can have a wide variety of appearences, why shouldn't other races?
> Tuvok is just another Vulcan as far as I'm concerned.
I'm not saying it like that. I'm quite happy with pink vulcans. BUT there
have never been other black vulcans, not even as extras (although I'd be
very happy to be corrected). Then they're assembling a cast for a new Trek.
So they probably think, 'we can
throw in a black vulcan, wouldn't that be interesting'. It just seems to me
as if they engineer these bridge crews to give them a spread of colours,
sexes etc. This one has a female captain, a black vulcan, an american
indian whose land has been taken away from him, a female half-klingon, an
asian-american and an cool white american college hotshot type. It seems
almost too nice. I'm not saying I'd want it any other way nor that doing it
is necessarily a bad thing but sometimes Trek makes it a little too
obvious. On the other hand Trek has pushed the boundaries of what you can
and can't do on TV. They put Uhura in a powerful position for a black
female, they had the first interracial kiss, they have female admirals all
over the place, female captains, non-humans in command positions, almost no
distinction between human races and cultures (unless it's required for the
story) etc. I like that in Trek, I just don't like it shoved down our
throats too much.
> >Yeah, even had some prime directive bending. She'll fit in as a starship
> >captain :-)
> As a traditional ST captain, you mean :).
:-)
> I'm not so much against the idea of a guide as *this* particular guide. Does
> he ever take anything seriously? (and no spoilers, please)
I couldn't spoil even if I tried :-) Yeah, he's a bit happy
Michael Lipwei Tay
>Hmmm, I'm in two minds. I feel that Kate Mulgrew is trying too hard to
>prove that a woman can be a starship captain. She's too much.
If Kirk or Picard acted as dynamic as Janeway did, you'd be saying that they
were action oriented captains. Janeway is just another action-captain. What's
the big deal?
>> * USS Voyager
>Yeah, snazzy. Like the moving nasceles.
^^^^^^^^
Hate to be picky, but it's nacceles.
>> * Tuvok
>Good to see a vulcan back. And throw in some political correctness too.
Second the Vulcan. And again, I can;t understand all this PC/non-PC crap.
If humans can have a wide variety of appearences, why shouldn't other races?
Tuvok is just another Vulcan as far as I'm concerned.
>> * Most of the plot
>Yeah, even had some prime directive bending. She'll fit in as a starship
>captain :-)
As a traditional ST captain, you mean :).
>> THINGS I DIDN'T LIKE:
>> =====================
>> * Janeway's voice
>Probably affected my opinion of her above.
Perhaps.
>> * Neelix
>I didn't think he was too bad. A little like throwing Quark in but they'll
>need a guide. Chances are they'll use him to explain away things that they
>would otherwise discover for themselves if they had 90 minutes each
>episode.
I'm not so much against the idea of a guide as *this* particular guide. Does
he ever take anything seriously? (and no spoilers, please)
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Michael Lipwei Tay
>>THINGS I LIKED:
>>===============
>>* Captain Janeway
>>* USS Voyager
>>* Tuvok
>>* The Caretaker's array
>Why? It's just a big old pile of metal.
Ahhh, but it's a beautiful big old pile of metal. :)
>>* The CGI
>The what?
Computer Genrated Imagery.
Stuart Turner
>>Yeah, snazzy. Like the moving nasceles.
> ^^^^^^^^
>Hate to be picky, but it's nacceles.
Hate to be *really* picky, but it's nacelles :-)
Stu
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:> * The Kazon-Ogla (not because they're the baddies, but because we've seen it
:> all before)
:I agree. And secondly, why would a race (without water) stay on a
:planet when they had the technological means to move elsewhere? After
:a millennium, you'd think they would have got the message: this planet
:is dead, dead, dead! But then, all things considered, Voyager and
:its crew should have cleared their system by the start of the next
:episode ... which means we shouldn't see them again.
Let's see if I can make a point without spoilers. Neelix said that the
Kazon were there because of some REALLY precious mineral. (BTW, I feel
I ought to mention that the Kazon are split into several sects, the
Ogla being one of them) Since it was implied that there are a lot of
them (They trade amongst themselves), it would be foolish to assume
that we've seen the last of the Kazon.
PHILIP S. LOENNEKER
>From: ml...@wumpus.its.uow.edu.au (Michael Lipwei Tay)
>Subject: VOYAGER: Caretaker!
>Date: 17 Apr 1996 11:53:58 +1000
>Well, after months of procrastination and delays, Caretaker finally hit our
>screens in Sydney last night. The premiere kicked butt. Much better than
>Encounter at Farpoint, The Emissary or S:AAB's pathetic effort.
>THINGS I LIKED:
>===============
>* Captain Janeway
>* USS Voyager
>* Tuvok
>* The Caretaker's array
>* Most of the plot
>* The CGI
>* B'lenna Torres
>* Harry Kim
>* The Doctor
>THINGS I DIDN'T LIKE:
>=====================
>* Janeway's voice
>* Tom Paris
>* Neelix
>* The Kazon-Ogla (not because they're the baddies, but because we've seen it
> all before)
>All in all, kick butt. Let's hope this keeps up.
>*******************************************************************************
>* Michael Tay B5/ST/SW/XF Fan * Tact is the ability to tell a man with a *
>* ml...@uow.edu.au * hole in his head that he has an open mind. *
>* FRACTAL * -anon. *
What's wrong with you? It's a GREAT movie full stop!! Especially Paris! I've
read the first 5 books in the series, and he's a great character. And so is
Neelix! They need a bit of comic relief sometime!!
Michael Lipwei Tay
[ATTACK OF THE FRACTAL CHAINSAW]
>>THINGS I DIDN'T LIKE:
>>=====================
>>* Janeway's voice
>>* Tom Paris
>>* Neelix
>>* The Kazon-Ogla (not because they're the baddies, but because we've seen it
>> all before)
>>All in all, kick butt. Let's hope this keeps up.
>What's wrong with you? It's a GREAT movie full stop!! Especially Paris! I've
>read the first 5 books in the series, and he's a great character. And so is
>Neelix! They need a bit of comic relief sometime!!
1. There is nothing wrong with me. I set out to give my opinion of Caretaker.
I gave it. If you agree with me, fine. If you don't agree with me, fine too.
2. Why I didn't say that Caretaker was "a GREAT movie". It was an action-fest,
with the requisite breaks in action for standard Star Trek pontificating and
posturing. However, it meshed and flowed well. Thankfully, there were no
slugfests for the sake of slugfests, and for a pilot, it did it's job very
well. Of course, here, it can draw on the Star Trek advantage. Instead of
having to introduce an *entire* new universe, Caretaker only had to show us
a new room in an already familiar one. Compare Caretaker to The Gathering,
or seaQuest DSV's pilot to see what I mean.
3. Your point about the books. The books are non-canon. Even if Paris has been
well written in the books, he's just not coming out that way on the show,
which *is* canon. The show can exist without the books, but the books can't
exist without the show. Paris is too much a deliberate attempt to place a
Riker-esque character in the show.
4. Neelix. Yes, they need comic relief, *but* there is no need to create one
character to *be* the comic relief. Witness TNG. The episode "Disaster".
Worf delivering Molly O'Brien in Ten-Forward was comic relief. Data
occasionally provided comic relief through his exploration of humanity.
m...@itd.dsto.gov.au
>ml...@wumpus.its.uow.edu.au (Michael Lipwei Tay) wrote:
>>>Yeah, snazzy. Like the moving nasceles.
>> ^^^^^^^^
>>Hate to be picky, but it's nacceles.
>Hate to be *really* picky, but it's nacelles :-)
This made no sense to me. I could see aerodynamic reasons
for this, but why not have them permanently deployed in
space. Why create a system (movememt) which is unnecessary
and can only create another failure mode. At least this ship
is more reliable than enterprise D which was just itching to
jetison the warp core.
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Adam James Fitzpatrick (afit...@ug.cs.su.oz.au) wrote:
: I don't think it'll be as bad as some people suggest.
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That's what I thought. I was wrong.
- Scott Stuart
And with dignity and grace, he shat himself.
Adam James Fitzpatrick
In article <4m1voc$6...@lucy.swin.edu.au>,
Scott Anthony Stuart <942...@bud.swin.edu.au> wrote:
>Adam James Fitzpatrick (afit...@ug.cs.su.oz.au) wrote:
>: I don't think it'll be as bad as some people suggest.
>: --
>: Fitz
>That's what I thought. I was wrong.
>- Scott Stuart
Well I enjoyed the first two episodes; they definitely had faults (most
notable for me Paris' irritatingly frequent references to Chakotay's past in
the staircase scene of Caretaker, and Janeway's excitement trying to get out
of that thing), but it's still watchable.
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: >- Scott Stuart
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Don't stop watching by any means, its still Trek and still reasonably
entertaining. Some great episodes are coming (Heroes and Demons, The
37's) but mostly they're crap, well below the standard we would expect
from Berman and co.
- Scott Stuart
Am I shrinking, or is my penis getting larger? Oh. I'm shrinking.
Duggy
On 1 May 1996, Scott Anthony Stuart wrote:
> Don't stop watching by any means, its still Trek and still reasonably
> entertaining. Some great episodes are coming (Heroes and Demons, The
> 37's) but mostly they're crap, well below the standard we would expect
> from Berman and co.
> - Scott Stuart
The standard we expect from Berman and Co?
And "It's Trek" is not an excuse to watch it, or they'll make "STAR TREK:
THE REPLICATOR THE HALLWAY" and "STAR TREK: THE STARSHIP CLEANING
SERVICE"
- Dug.
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On Fri, 3 May 1996, Duggy wrote:
> On 1 May 1996, Scott Anthony Stuart wrote:
>
> > Don't stop watching by any means, its still Trek and still reasonably
> > entertaining. Some great episodes are coming (Heroes and Demons, The
> > 37's) but mostly they're crap, well below the standard we would expect
> > from Berman and co.
>
> > - Scott Stuart
>
> The standard we expect from Berman and Co?
>
> And "It's Trek" is not an excuse to watch it, or they'll make "STAR TREK:
> THE REPLICATOR THE HALLWAY" and "STAR TREK: THE STARSHIP CLEANING
> SERVICE"
>
Yes it is Star Trek, but what else are you going to watch Blue Heelers or
Melrose Place. I won't. Any way at least there is something to watch
besides watching TNG. (Which I still watch)
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On Fri, 3 May 1996, Joel Jenkins wrote:
> > And "It's Trek" is not an excuse to watch it, or they'll make "STAR TREK:
> > THE REPLICATOR THE HALLWAY" and "STAR TREK: THE STARSHIP CLEANING
> > SERVICE"
> Yes it is Star Trek, but what else are you going to watch Blue Heelers or
> Melrose Place. I won't. Any way at least there is something to watch
> besides watching TNG. (Which I still watch)
Ever heard of the real world Joel.
No, I guess not, because I've seen you here, still in the Lab at six in
the morning when even I've decided to go home.
My point is get a life Joel.
Or die trying.
Joel Jenkins
>
> And "It's Trek" is not an excuse to watch it, or they'll make "STAR TREK:
> THE REPLICATOR THE HALLWAY" and "STAR TREK: THE STARSHIP CLEANING
> SERVICE"
>
Think of this:-
These are the voyagers of Starship Cleaner. Our mission to have this
ship, the cleanest ship in Federation,and to clean other ships while they
get attack.
Honest these idea of "Star Trek: The starship cleaning service" is BIG JOKE!!
People must be bored to think ideas like this, or even reply to this.
Well I did!!!
D'ob!!!
Joel Jenkins
On Fri, 3 May 1996, Duggy wrote:
> On Fri, 3 May 1996, Joel Jenkins wrote:
>
> > > And "It's Trek" is not an excuse to watch it, or they'll make "STAR TREK:
> > > THE REPLICATOR THE HALLWAY" and "STAR TREK: THE STARSHIP CLEANING
> > > SERVICE"
>
> > Yes it is Star Trek, but what else are you going to watch Blue Heelers or
> > Melrose Place. I won't. Any way at least there is something to watch
> > besides watching TNG. (Which I still watch)
>
> Ever heard of the real world Joel.
>
> No, I guess not, because I've seen you here, still in the Lab at six in
> the morning when even I've decided to go home.
>
> My point is get a life Joel.
>
> Or die trying.
>
>
Any one who writes should you do does ever have a life.
And hey it's my so-called non-life, so I don't what one!!
>
> - Dug.
>
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>
> No, during: Think about it - A 24hr a day Trek station.
>
> All trek all the time...
>
Well thats think about thats a good idea at this time of the night anyway!!
Duggy
On Fri, 3 May 1996, Joel Jenkins wrote:
> > And "It's Trek" is not an excuse to watch it, or they'll make "STAR TREK:
> > THE REPLICATOR THE HALLWAY" and "STAR TREK: THE STARSHIP CLEANING
> > SERVICE"
No, during: Think about it - A 24hr a day Trek station.
All trek all the time...
> Think of this:-
> These are the voyagers of Starship Cleaner. Our mission to have this
> ship, the cleanest ship in Federation,and to clean other ships while they
> get attack.
But remember the Prime Directive:
We shall not clean ships, or interfer in the cleaning of ships that are
not up to our level of cleaning technology.
> Honest these idea of "Star Trek: The starship cleaning service" is BIG
ly is_
> JOKE!
> People must be bored to think ideas like this, or even reply to this.
> Well I did!!!
Well, Duh.
> D'ob!!!
Don't you mean D'Oh.
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Is that the sound of a thousand "jcu"'s being out in a thousand KILL
FILES in her (or just Amy giggling (sigh))
Duggy
On Fri, 3 May 1996, Joel Jenkins wrote:
> > No, during: Think about it - A 24hr a day Trek station.
> > All trek all the time...
> Well thats think about thats a good idea at this time of the night anyway!!
Well thats think you about thats a right good feeling idea, yonder.
JOEL: If you read this, I think it is time you go home and go to bed.
If you don't read this I'll have to turn around and tell you.
Duggy
On Fri, 3 May 1996, Joel Jenkins wrote:
> > Ever heard of the real world Joel.
> > No, I guess not, because I've seen you here, still in the Lab at six in
> > the morning when even I've decided to go home.
> > My point is get a life Joel.
> > Or die trying.
> Any one who writes should you do does ever have a life.
Ah huh.
Look Joel these poor people are sitting here looking through this saying:
How get we get these people band from using computers ever again.
> And hey it's my so-called non-life, so I don't what one!!
Well good. I think.
- Dug.
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PS: I think you should stop changing the SUBJECT:, that's got to upset
people.
PPS: Have the words "The more you tighten your grip, the more systems
will slip through your fingers..." ever got you hot?
Scott Anthony Stuart
: > Don't stop watching by any means, its still Trek and still reasonably
: > entertaining. Some great episodes are coming (Heroes and Demons, The
: > 37's) but mostly they're crap, well below the standard we would expect
: > from Berman and co.
: > - Scott Stuart
: The standard we expect from Berman and Co?
: And "It's Trek" is not an excuse to watch it, or they'll make "STAR TREK:
: THE REPLICATOR THE HALLWAY" and "STAR TREK: THE STARSHIP CLEANING
: SERVICE"
No, "it's Trek" is not an excuse to watch it, it is a reason. Most other
shows would have been given up on now if they were of this quality (why
the exception to this is Seaquest DSV is beyond me) but Trek is still
Trek and I will make time for it. (Easy enough, I've seen 'em all :) )
As for Berman and Co, I think they've done a great job with TNG, a great
job with DS9 and a shit house job with Voyager. But, then, everybody
can't win all the time. Certainly they should have made an effort to get
many more noted SF writers involved, it worked very well for TOS, but due
to many reasons (mainly the writer's strike during season 2 of TNG which
nearly cost them the whole series) a stable loyal staff was a good
decision to make.
- Scott Stuart
Ta da.
Bradley_...@goal.apana.org.au
Yes, the Khaz-Ogla or whatever they were. I'm bad at remembering names
but I mistook them for Klingons :)
It's good to see a Vulcan too because I never saw one b4 :) I didn't see
the Original Series :)
Brad
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S5>You think that was good you wait until the episode faces. Its so cool.
S5>B'Elanna is abducted by a race called the Vidiaans who are suffering from
S5>a disease called the phage...anyway one of them used enhanced mitosis to
S5>split her klingon and human half and put them through a "type of
S5>transporter and make two complete identities. I must say the full klingon
S5>B'Elanna was very sexy!!
I saw that episode... but I didn't see B'Elanna much in the episode...
Neelix was the victim.
Adriano Ennio Raiola
Scott Anthony Stuart (942...@bud.swin.edu.au) wrote:
: As for Berman and Co, I think they've done a great job with TNG, a great
: job with DS9 and a shit house job with Voyager. But, then, everybody
: can't win all the time. Certainly they should have made an effort to get
How many times must it be said.. GIVE it a chance! Remember if you were to
judge TNG or DS9 on the first two seasons alone? Ok DS9 got its act together
pretty well by the end of the 2nd, but from what ive heard Voyager is getting
more and more solid towards the end of its 2nd season too..
Adrian
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