why dont they jusy put the tees on minbar somewhere
CORKS
with the minabris fairly generous sort of principles surely they would
havent a problem getting some island or little planate somewhere.
corks
Richard A. Muirden
>with the minabris fairly generous sort of principles surely they would
>havent a problem getting some island or little planate somewhere.
maybe they didn't or don't have one. I like the usaername btw.
maybe the warrior caste hates teeps ;)
Actually I don't see why the alliance can't give a planet to the teeps.
in a universe with so many (even the small parts that are in the alliance)
what would it hurt. As someone else suggested why not let them
have the Markeb homeworld?
>corks
-richard
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Ian Galbraith
wrote:
:trig...@space.net.au (CORKS) writes:
:>with the minabris fairly generous sort of principles surely they would
:>havent a problem getting some island or little planate somewhere.
:maybe they didn't or don't have one. I like the usaername btw.
:maybe the warrior caste hates teeps ;)
:Actually I don't see why the alliance can't give a planet to the teeps.
:in a universe with so many (even the small parts that are in the alliance)
:what would it hurt.
Its political. Think of an analogous situation now. Say Tasmania or say any
one of the islands off the coast of Australia is unoccupied, do you think
the Government would give it to a group of a few hundred people? Even if
they were reasonable people and not a cult this isn't going to happen.
:As someone else suggested why not let them
:have the Markeb homeworld?
A mutation of the virus could wipe out billions.
Be Seeing You
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Chris Severn
Ian Galbraith wrote in message <3681154b...@news.latrobe.edu.au>...
>:As someone else suggested why not let them
>:have the Markeb homeworld?
>
>A mutation of the virus could wipe out billions.
Is this a reason to let the telepaths live there, or a reason not to ?
Personally, I think as long as they don't get left with any means to escape
the planet - let them live there.
Chris Severn
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Chad Millar
<sev...@iinetx.netx.aux> wrote:
>
>Ian Galbraith wrote in message <3681154b...@news.latrobe.edu.au>...
>>On 15 Dec 1998 15:35:08 GMT, ric...@cs.rmit.edu.au (Richard A. Muirden)
>>wrote:
>
>
>>:As someone else suggested why not let them
>>:have the Markeb homeworld?
>>
>>A mutation of the virus could wipe out billions.
>
>Is this a reason to let the telepaths live there, or a reason not to ?
>
>Personally, I think as long as they don't get left with any means to escape
>the planet - let them live there.
Remember these are telepaths who have shown their disregard for the
unauthorised scan protocol.
Trying to dump them on a planet without means of escape would be
someone dangerous.
---
Chad Millar
c_mi...@bigpond.com
Christian McNeill
>
>Ian Galbraith wrote in message <3681154b...@news.latrobe.edu.au>...
>>On 15 Dec 1998 15:35:08 GMT, ric...@cs.rmit.edu.au (Richard A. Muirden)
>>wrote:
>
>
>>:As someone else suggested why not let them
>>:have the Markeb homeworld?
>>
>>A mutation of the virus could wipe out billions.
>
>Is this a reason to let the telepaths live there, or a reason not to ?
>
>Personally, I think as long as they don't get left with any means to escape
>the planet - let them live there.
Personally the whole idea of giving them a homeworld is out of the question.
Byron made what should have been an internal matter (ie. within Earth) in to
an external one. Out of all the races that have telepaths it seem that it's
only us that have the problem with them. Byron should never have gone to
the council and made threats, demanding a homeworld from people he doesn't
really have the right to ask that. He should have directed his threats to
Earth only. To which Earth will say no (Byron probably knew that so that's
probably why he went to the Alliance). And they'd be right to say that, but
not for the right reasons. <I ramble on a bit more but talking about going
on a trip and describing in detail what I take with me. but then I get back
on track to say>
All I'm trying to say is taht giving them theirown world is wrong because it
doesn't deal with the problem. IT just puts it in the too hard basket only
to pop back up at a really inconvenient time. The wound must be healed
rather than moved to another part of the body. If it's moved it'll just
take longer to kill.
That is all i will say........ for now
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AndrewR
<sev...@iinetx.netx.aux> wrote:
>
>Ian Galbraith wrote in message <3681154b...@news.latrobe.edu.au>...
>>On 15 Dec 1998 15:35:08 GMT, ric...@cs.rmit.edu.au (Richard A. Muirden)
>>wrote:
>
>
>>:As someone else suggested why not let them
>>:have the Markeb homeworld?
>>
>>A mutation of the virus could wipe out billions.
>
>Is this a reason to let the telepaths live there, or a reason not to ?
>
>Personally, I think as long as they don't get left with any means to escape
>the planet - let them live there.
>
then in about 10 years we'll see a movie come out called B5: The Wrath
of Byron
hee hee
AndrewR
On Fri, 18 Dec 1998 01:33:05 +1000, "Christian McNeill"
<red...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>Chris Severn wrote in message <759nbv$hco$1...@news.iinet.net.au>...
>>
>>Ian Galbraith wrote in message <3681154b...@news.latrobe.edu.au>...
>>>On 15 Dec 1998 15:35:08 GMT, ric...@cs.rmit.edu.au (Richard A. Muirden)
>>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>:As someone else suggested why not let them
>>>:have the Markeb homeworld?
>>>
>>>A mutation of the virus could wipe out billions.
>>
>>Is this a reason to let the telepaths live there, or a reason not to ?
>>
>>Personally, I think as long as they don't get left with any means to escape
>>the planet - let them live there.
>
>
>Personally the whole idea of giving them a homeworld is out of the question.
>Byron made what should have been an internal matter (ie. within Earth) in to
>an external one. Out of all the races that have telepaths it seem that it's
>only us that have the problem with them. Byron should never have gone to
>the council and made threats, demanding a homeworld from people he doesn't
>really have the right to ask that.
But the Vorlons created them - to defend the races of the Alliance.
Sean Flynn
AndrewR wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Dec 1998 09:40:57 +0800, "Chris Severn"
> <sev...@iinetx.netx.aux> wrote:
>
> >
> >Ian Galbraith wrote in message <3681154b...@news.latrobe.edu.au>...
> >>On 15 Dec 1998 15:35:08 GMT, ric...@cs.rmit.edu.au (Richard A. Muirden)
> >>wrote:
> >
> >
> >>:As someone else suggested why not let them
> >>:have the Markeb homeworld?
> >>
> >>A mutation of the virus could wipe out billions.
> >
> >Is this a reason to let the telepaths live there, or a reason not to ?
> >
> >Personally, I think as long as they don't get left with any means to escape
> >the planet - let them live there.
> >
>
> then in about 10 years we'll see a movie come out called B5: The Wrath
> of Byron
Yep and we get to see Byron put one of this bug things in Bester's ear
Christian McNeill
>>>>:As someone else suggested why not let them
>>>>:have the Markeb homeworld?
>>>>
>>>>A mutation of the virus could wipe out billions.
>>>
>>>Is this a reason to let the telepaths live there, or a reason not to ?
>>>
>>>Personally, I think as long as they don't get left with any means to
escape
>>>the planet - let them live there.
>>
>>
question.
>>Byron made what should have been an internal matter (ie. within Earth) in
to
>>an external one. Out of all the races that have telepaths it seem that
it's
>>only us that have the problem with them. Byron should never have gone to
>>the council and made threats, demanding a homeworld from people he doesn't
>>really have the right to ask that.
>
>But the Vorlons created them - to defend the races of the Alliance.
So what!?
He has no right to make those demands.... sure they were created to fight
the shadows, )or did the vorlons do a favour to the younger races but
introducing teeps to them earlier than evolution...?) But really, aside
from a handful of teep rogues and some shadow altered teeps, the majority
of teeps did little... And Byron even less. So why should he get everything
he demands just because teeps were created by Vorlons? (Actually I don't
like the word "created", because the Vorlon could have activated a recessive
gene or something rather than just added telepathy).
That's what he's asking. Teeps were created by Vorlon to protect the
younger races from the Shadows. Both the Shadows and Vorlons are gone now,
the only ones left are you, so... gimmie, gimmie, gimmie.
Heh, he reminds me of Grandpa Simpson "I'm old. Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie!"
AndrewR
<sea...@tcc-comp.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>AndrewR wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 17 Dec 1998 09:40:57 +0800, "Chris Severn"
>> <sev...@iinetx.netx.aux> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Ian Galbraith wrote in message <3681154b...@news.latrobe.edu.au>...
>> >>On 15 Dec 1998 15:35:08 GMT, ric...@cs.rmit.edu.au (Richard A. Muirden)
>> >>wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>:As someone else suggested why not let them
>> >>:have the Markeb homeworld?
>> >>
>> >>A mutation of the virus could wipe out billions.
>> >
>> >Is this a reason to let the telepaths live there, or a reason not to ?
>> >
>> >Personally, I think as long as they don't get left with any means to escape
>> >the planet - let them live there.
>> >
>>
>> then in about 10 years we'll see a movie come out called B5: The Wrath
>> of Byron
>
>Yep and we get to see Byron put one of this bug things in Bester's ear
>
The funny thing is I just watched Wrath of Kahn again - and Kahn - has
all these silent extras - his followers - and these women in the
background with long hair look like Byron's followers
wonder if their interview to get the role was like
Interview for village idiot.
"So have you had any experience"
"I played paniccy idiot no. 1 in 'The Psioden Adventure'!"
"No, sorry, where looking for more of a dahh dahh idiot."
The Simpsons (or words to that effect)
heh heh
Brett Caton
AndrewR <s34...@student.uq.edu.au> wrote in article
<3679e43a...@news.uq.edu.au>...
[snip]
> >Personally the whole idea of giving them a homeworld is out of the
question.
> >Byron made what should have been an internal matter (ie. within Earth)
in to
> >an external one. Out of all the races that have telepaths it seem that
it's
> >only us that have the problem with them. Byron should never have gone
to
> >the council and made threats, demanding a homeworld from people he
doesn't
> >really have the right to ask that.
>
> But the Vorlons created them - to defend the races of the Alliance.
The Vorlons created them to serve the purposes of the Vorlons; that was,
for the time being, beneficial for the races of the alliance. So what? The
vorlons are *gone*, as Lyta pointed out. Deciding that the alliance bore
responsibilty for their birth was absurd; certainly, the alliance races
could be grateful for their help, and reward them; but the alliance races
don't "owe" them anything. The teeps would have died if they hadn't fought,
or, worse, ended up as organic cpu's.
Fighting in self defense as part of an alliance does not mean your allies
are obliged to reward you.
Brett Caton.
Sean Flynn
lives in the Shadow war, because most telepaths never got used in the first
place, like while Sheridan was going cliff diving at Z'Ha'Dum, Byron was
probably laying back with two female telepaths with him being a total total
smeg head as usual. Yes I will admit telepaths have it hard and all especially
with the Psi-Corps around etc.
But Isn't it only the human telepaths, that are controlled, oppressed, hunted
down etc.? While the telepaths of other worlds can do as they please to a
certain extent, such as the Centauri and the Minbari? Giving them a home world
of their own, because this won't stop the Psi-Cop's from going to the planet
and getting them all then, will it? They should of gotten the Alliance make a
recommendation for Earth to reviewing the treatment of telepaths or something
as such?
Sean