On Tue, 21 May 2013 18:59:12 -0700 (PDT), gladys swager
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gsw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, May 21, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 May 2013, gladys swager wrote:
>>On Monday, May 20, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
So we both wrote the same things?
>> >Barry, All the living things in the world today...had a beginning sometime in the past ages. Yhey live, they reproduce (generally), they die.
>
>You have let God down badly by failing to reproduce.
You don't know that.
>No heaven for you(EXCLAMATION POINT)
No heaven for anyone.
>You are a man who thinks he is omniscient,
> (look up your dictionary if you don't know the meaning)
You are too stupid to know that you are too stupid to know.
>The first plants and animals could not have come from other plants and
>animals becuse there were no plants and animals before the first
>plants and animals. That is just plain logic.
Logic is not your friend.
>So nothing exists(QUESTION MARK)
Why do you say that?
>>So how did the first plants and animals - including humans - >come to be on this planet?
>>Evolutionists either ignore that very important issue or push it back into >millions of years where it is not scientifically determinalble..but they still >call it science.
I did not write that. Stop lying.
>First life is not part of evolution(FULL STOP)
I agree.
>Why isn't it....You say waht happened **8after first life....why not before???
Why did you say 'First life is not part of evolution(FULL STOP)'
>>Today's world population supports creation six thousand years ago.
I did not write that. Stop lying.
>How do you fit 400 million years of trilobites into six thousand years(QUESTION MARK)
I don't try.
>It is 400 millions years now?
You said it was.
>keep going and you'll be sstating that everything is eternal - ie
>always existed. Have you dound all the bones yet?
I am still working on dounding the bones.
>>Aspects of the physiology of the world supports the flood in the time of Noah.
>
>> Except that the Grand Canyon could not have been made in a short time(FULL STOP)
>
>You may not have ever been in flood conditions to realise the power of
>volumes of rushing water. I have witnessed one such flood on our farm.
>A 44-gallon drum of petrol was lifted by the flood waters and taken a
>few properties away, to be retrieved later when the flood waters were
>dispersed.
>And there have been many worse floods in many parts of the world than
>that one on our property.
Do you have a point?
>>The geology of the world supports Genesis 1 : 10 and Continental Drift -
>>a subject in at least one High School science text, (I have on my bookshelf).
I did not write that. Stop lying.
>Is continental drift in the bible(QUESTION MARK)
I don't know. Is it?
>However, from observations, even lines of fossils from one continent
>to the nearest one physically gives an indication that the continents
>formed one land mass originally.
>
>Genesis 1 : 9 also indicates there could have been one land mass.
>And God said,"Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together
>unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
Is continental drift in the bible?
>>But the Evolutionists who took over our school system through information >given in Teacher's Training Colleges from the early post-WW-2 years do not
>> allow the students to know any of that information....
>>or they are ignorant of it themselves.
I did not write that. Stop lying.
>I would like to have more information about that but you refuse to elabarate(FULL STOP)
What should I elaborate on?
>Not a refusal to elaborate....it is a relatively recent known phenomenon
>of the earth's surface...
How are early post-WW-2 years a relatively recent known phenomenon
of the earth's surface?
>>I can understand that Atheists even before the end of WW-2 - in which
>>what would once have been known as Christian Europe had been engulfed
>>in war- determined that they would impose their ideas.
I did not write that. Stop lying.
>But can you explain it to me(QUESTION MARK)
I was hoping you would explain it to me.
>>Christians as highly trained have called for a reappraisal of those
>> determinations.
I did not write that. Stop lying.
>Trained by God(QUESTION MARK)
That's what I would like to know.
>>Surely the determinations of the Secularisers/Atheists should be balanced by the determinations of the equally trained, (scientifically), Christian- Creationist Scientists so that an assessment can be made of the greater plausibility of one group over the other group.
I did not write that. Stop lying.
>No, because the two are completely separate areas(FULL STOP)
In what way?
>To you, No, because you do not want the truth to be told - one way or the other - you just want indoctrinations of what you have accepted.
Why did you say the two are completely separate areas?
>>Setting up a monopology on information, as the Secularisers did after
>>WW-2 should now be investigated, and the arguments of Scientists on
>>both sides of this issue be thoroughly assessed against the evidence
>>that is now available.
I did not write that. Stop lying.
>I'd like to investigate and you can help by giving me more
>information, such as where I can look.
I am the one needing more information.
>Of course there are not two
>sides as creation and evolution are completely different fields and
>thus not comparable.
I agree with you there!
>You must learn to take responsibility for your own actions.
I usually do.
>How are you going with the David Attenborough programs on youtube via
>the link I had made for you? You can't help but be impressed with the
>standard of the programs. They are both entertaining and educational.
I agree about the standard of the programs but I was not aware of
you making any links for me.
>He is making quite an amount of money out of his
>presentation...possibly laughing all the way to the bank. He has a
>captive audience such as yourself who evidently was indoctrinated in
>the school system tah ttaught tha tEvolution was Science, when it
>couldn't be tested scientifically...and still can't be.
You seem to know a lot about someone whose work you are
afraid of.
>Also do a search on youtube for Penn and Teller Bullshit episodes
>especially the one about creation. They do an excellent job of showing
>creation for the Bullshit it is. You never did thank me for showing
>you how you can watch the excellent and true programs by Sir David
>Attenborough without needing a TV. The important thing is you are
>enjoying them and discovering how absurd creation is. That is thanks
>enough although I would like to hear your thoughts about the programs.
I didn't thank you because I was not aware you had done those
things for me.
>If you want to use common vulgarisms, that is your choice,
Bullshit is the name of the series by Penn and Teller.
They call it Bullshit because they reveal the nonsense
in such things as creationism.
You are in no position to comment if you don't follow
my advice.
>I would prefer the scientific evidence, and am of the opinion that you
>do not have any such evidence.
You hide from real evidence like a cowering lying rat.
>Knighthoods can come fairly easily...and may not always be for true
>scientific evidence, only the ability of those promoting the programs.
You should bow your head in reverence when you read the name
David Attenborough as he is far outside your league.
>One thing Evolutionists have not yet proved ...and that is how did
>life on this planet originate....discount God...and you have
>'Nobody'....???
>and I am still to see 'Nobody' do anything.
Nobody knows. However it is reasonable to assume there was
not always life so early simple life must have come from non-life.
If life only ever came from life no life could exist.
>Barry, the truth is evolutionary-Atheists have lost...and lost miserably!!!
Gladys, the real truth is creationists have lost....their minds.
Your name is already down for your trip to hell so you may
as well give up.
See what happens when you mess around with the attributes?
What did it achieve? When you stop messing around we can
go back to having a proper discussion.
You must learn to take responsibility for your own actions.
If you won't use a proper newsreader at least have a talk
to Google support.
I recommend Forte Agent. Its a lot easier to use than
Google and you wouldn't have any problems with it.
I am aware that you automatically reject anything I suggest,
such as copy and paste which would allow you to have
error free links.
How are you going with the David Attenborough programs
on youtube via the link I had made for you? You can't help
but be impressed with the standard of the programs. They
are both entertaining and educational.
Also do a search on youtube for Penn and Teller Bullshit
episodes especially the one about creation. They do an
excellent job of showing creation for the Bullshit it is.
You never did thank me for showing you how you can
watch the excellent and true programs by Sir David
Attenborough without needing a TV. The important
thing is you are enjoying them and discovering how
absurd creation is.
That is thanks enough although I would like to hear
your thoughts about the programs.