Teachers held without bail in London for teaching?
princeandy
Apparently you can examine any massacre that has historical flaws IE
Armenian, Those in Russia, India in days of raj.
But do not dare try and give a true history of the WWII holocaust claims of
Jews.
> "Anarchore" <e...@t.me> wrote in message
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> > We need another world-wide krystallnacht against Zionist interests.
> > Let's get the terrorists packing back to Israhell! No more evil scum
> > perverting society from the top. Death to Zionism.
> >
> > http://judicial-inc.biz/Kristallnacht.htm
> > Kristallnacht
> >
> > The real story
> >
> >
> >
> > Some history leading up to Kristallnacht and WW 2
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Amschel Rothschild finances the Bolshevik revolution
> >
> > The three Jews Trotsky, Lenin and Stalin kill over twenty million
> > Russians who were opposing the Jewish swindle. Russian artists,
> > teachers, intellectuals, leaders are imprisoned and sent to the Gulags.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In 1933 -34 the Ukraine farmers refused to turn their land over to the
> > communists and Stalin confiscated their crops and starved seven
> > million to death.
> >
> > wpe108.jpg (9124 bytes)
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> > Hitler blocks communism and Jews declare war on Germany
> >
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> > Hitler is in the way of Communism
> >
> > wpeFE.jpg (2489 bytes)
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> >
> > Infuriated Jews declared war on Germany
> >
> > wpeF9.jpg (26368 bytes)
> >
> >
> >
> > Hitler stood alone and defiant against the tidal wave of Jewish
> > organized Communism then sweeping all before it. The Communists had
> > seized Russia and were at the bottom of civil unrest and revolution
> > throughout eastern Europe; Britain, France, - the Spanish Civil War -,
> > the British dominions and the United States.
> >
> > Germany alone repelled and held in check this tidal wave of subversion
> > and insurrection.
> >
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> >
> >
> > Circumstances leading up to Kristallnacht
> >
> >
> > Herschel Grynszpan
> >
> > wpeF5.jpg (3777 bytes)
> > A Jew assassinates a diplomat
> >
> > Grynszpan was an 17 yr old unemployed Jew who was funded by LICRA (
> > Jewish activist group ). His father had been a tailor who had moved
> > from Poland to Germany. Herschel had a reputation for disliking work
> > and he hung out at the homes of his uncles in Brussels and Paris.
> >
> > He checked into an expensive hotel just round the corner from the
> > offices of LICA.
> >
> > On November 7 1938, Herschel Grynszpan walked into the German embassy
> > in Paris and shot Ernst vom Rath, a German diplomat, five times.
> >
> > LICA at once hired one of the foremost barristers in Paris, and paid
> > his legal costs when he was arrested.
> > wpeF8.jpg (3083 bytes) Ernst vom Rath
> >
> > Was a 31 yr old German diplomat in Paris.
> >
> >
> >
> > Grynszpan was arrested
> > wpeF6.jpg (4305 bytes) Grynszpan was arrested at the scene and was
> > taken to a police station. Although he was a totally obscure Polish Jew
> > with no money and no apparent supporters, nevertheless one of France's
> > most famous lawyers, Moro Giafferi, appeared at the police station a
> > few hours after the shooting and told the police that he was
> > Grynszpan's attorney
> >
> >
> >
> > Famous lawyer ( Moro Giafferi ) mysteriously appears
> > wpeF7.jpg (2288 bytes)
> >
> > Moro Giafferi turns out to be the legal counsel of the LICA which was
> > founded in Paris in 1933 by the Jew Bernard Lecache and operated as a
> > militant propaganda organization .
> >
> > Another assassination
> >
> > In February 1936 Giafferi represented the Jew David Frankfurter who had
> > shot and killed Wilhelm Gustloff, the head of the Swiss branch of the
> > German National Socialist Party. During the subsequent trial it was
> > clearly established that Frankfurter had been a hired murderer with
> > backed by LICRA.
> >
> >
> >
> > Grynszpan survives the war and lives in Paris supported by LICRA
> > LICRA
> >
> > wpeF6.jpg (3187 bytes)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Grynszpan survived the war and returned to Paris where he was supported
> > by LICRA and was never charged.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Bernard Lecache - LICRA founder
> > wpe100.jpg (2347 bytes) Grynszpan family recieved a vast sum and
> > papers to Palestine from LICRA
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> > What Really Happened During the Crystal Night
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > wpeFC.jpg (11969 bytes)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Provocateurs appear in border towns
> > wpeED.jpg (4105 bytes) On 8 November 1938, one day before the Crystal
> > Night, strange persons who had never been seen there before suddenly
> > appeared in several small towns in Hessen near the French-German
> > border. They went to mayors, Kreisleiters (district Party leaders) and
> > other important officials in these towns and asked them what actions
> > were being planned against the Jews. The officials were rather startled
> > by these questions and replied that they didn't know of any such plans.
> > The strangers acted as if they were shocked to hear this. They shouted
> > and complained that something had to be done against the Jews and then,
> > without further explanation, they disappeared.
> > They usually regarded the strangers as crazy anti-Semites and promptly
> > forgot about the incidents - until the next evening. Some of these
> > apparently crazy individuals really outdid themselves.
> >
> >
> >
> > Provocateurs dress as SS
> > wpeEF.jpg (2292 bytes) In one case two men, dressed as members of the
> > SS, went to an SA Standartenfuehrer (Colonel) and ordered him to
> > destroy the nearby synagogue. To understand the absurdity of this one
> > must know that the SS and SA were completely separate organizations. A
> > real SS member would never have tried to give orders to an SA unit.
> > This case shows that the strangers were foreigners who did not even
> > understand the distinctions of German authority. The SA
> > Standartenfuehrer rejected the demands of the self-styled SS men and
> > reported the incident to his superiors.
> >
> >
> >
> > Strangers giving speeches
> > wpeFB.jpg (5701 bytes) When the provocateurs realized that their
> > efforts were not working with local officials, they changed their
> > tactics. Instead they tried to incite directly the people in the
> > streets. In another town, for example, two men appeared at the market
> > place and began making speeches to the people there, trying to incite
> > them against the Jews. Eventually some people did indeed storm the
> > synagogue, but by then the two provocateurs had, of course,
> > disappeared. Similar incidents occurred in several towns.
> > Unidentified strangers suddenly appeared, gave speeches, started
> > throwing stones at windows, stormed Jewish buildings, schools,
> > hospitals, and synagogues, and then disappeared.
> >
> > These unusual incidents had already started on the 8th of November,
> > that is, before Ernst vom Rath was dead. His death was only reported
> > late on the evening of the 9th. The fact that this strange pattern of
> > incidents had already begun one day earlier proves that the death of
> > vom Rath was not the reason for the Crystal Night outburst. Vom Rath
> > was still alive when the pogrom began.
> >
> >
> >
> > These were methodical thugs and not enraged citizens
> > wpe102.jpg (1793 bytes) Well organized and widespread incidents began
> > on the evening of 9 November. Groups of generally five or six young
> > men, armed with bars and clubs, went down the streets smashing store
> > windows. They were not Jew-hating SA men, enraged over the murder of a
> > German diplomat. They operated too methodically to have been motivated
> > by anger.
> >
> > They carried out their work without any apparent emotion. Nonetheless,
> > it was their destruction
> > that encouraged certain other individuals from the lowest social
> > classes to become a mob and continue the destruction.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > All one can learn from history writers is that "all" synagogues were
> > demolished and that "all" shop windows were destroyed. Aside from this
> > vague description, one is given almost no details.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jews fought off attacks
> >
> >
> > History writers tell us that during the Crystal Night all the Jews were
> > frightened, meekly accepted whatever happened to them and watched the
> > destruction of their property with no resistance. The contrary is true.
> > While going through the files on this subject, I found many documents
> > which report precisely just the opposite of what is claimed. The fact
> > is that in many cases Jews and their German neighbors fought together
> > against the attackers, pushing them down staircases. Street mobs were
> > beaten up and chased away in more than one case.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Police on side of Jews
> >
> > SA officers stood watch preventing attacks
> >
> > Police and Party officials were generally on the side of the Jews. Some
> > Jewish community leaders went to police stations the next morning and
> > asked the police to investigate the damage done to their synagogues.
> > The resulting police reports are still available in the files today.
> > wpeEF.jpg (4518 bytes)
> >
> >
> >
> > Jews weren't phased by attacks
> > wpeF7.jpg (5870 bytes) Also contrary to what we have been told, most
> > Jews were not directly affected by these events. In Berlin, for
> > example, all of the teachers and pupils of the city's largest Jewish
> > school, which served the entire Berlin area, appeared in their classes
> > the next morning without having noticed anything unusual during the
> > previous night.
> >
> > Heinemann Stern, the Jewish principal of that school, wrote in his
> > postwar memoirs that he noticed a burning synagogue on his way to the
> > school on the morning after the Crystal Night, but he thought it was
> > just an accidental fire.
> >
> > It was only after he arrived at the school that he received a telephone
> > call informing him of the destruction of the previous night. He then
> > went on with his classes of the day and only during the first recess
> > did he take the trouble to inform the entire student body about what
> > had happened.
> >
> > Jewish historians rewrote history
> >
> > Historians wrote: "Every single Jew was beaten, chased, robbed,
> > insulted and humiliated. The SA tore the Jews from their beds,
> > mercilessly beat them in their apartments and then ... chased them
> > almost to death ... Blood flowed everywhere."
> >
> > [9] Is it conceivable that thousands of Jewish children would be have
> > been sent to school by their parents on the morning after that fateful
> > night if the attacks against Jews had been so horrific or extensive?
> > Would any parents have let their children go to school if they had
> > thought there was even the slightest danger of them being attacked by
> > roving gangs of SA men? I think the answer is clearly no!
> >
> >
> >
> > Who Could the Provocateurs Have Been?
> >
> > In the wake of the Crystal Night, almost everyone wanted to know who
> > the culprits were. Dr. Goebbels expressed his suspicion that a secret
> > organization must have instigated the entire affair. He simply could
> > not believe that anything so well organized could have been a
> > spontaneous popular outburst.
> >
> > Apparently to avoid internal wrangling and the harm that this would do
> > to their public image, an investigation to determine the instigators
> > never took place. Hitler believed that Dr. Goebbels, his closest
> > confidant and the one man he could never abandon, had been the
> > instigator.
> >
> > The only persons actually punished were individual SA men who had
> > participated directly in the pogrom and been accused in German courts
> > of murder, assault, looting or other criminal acts by Jewish or German
> > witnesses to these crimes. But before any of these cases ever actually
> > came to trail, Hitler issued a special decree ordering the postponement
> > of all such cases until after the accused individuals were first
> > prosecuted by the Supreme Party Court, an internal court concerned with
> > discipline within the National Socialist Party organization.
> >
> >
> > Mystery phone calls to local town officials
> > wpe103.jpg (1679 bytes) Several district and local Party leaders
> > (Kreisleiters and Ortsgruppenleiters) were awakened from their sleep in
> > the middle of the night by telephone calls. Someone claiming to be from
> > the regional Party headquarters or the regional Party propaganda bureau
> > (Gauleitung or Gaupropagandaleitung) would ask what was happening in
> > the official's town or city. If the Party official answered "Nothing,
> > everything is quiet," the telephone caller would then say in German
> > slang that he had received an order to the effect that the Jews were
> > going to get it tonight and that the respective official should carry
> > out the order.
> >
> > In most cases the Party leader, disturbed from his sleep, did not even
> > understand what had happened. Some simply dismissed the call as a joke
> > and went back to bed.
> >
> > Others called back the office from where the telephone voice had
> > pretended to be calling. If they managed to reach someone in charge,
> > they were often told that nobody knew anything about such a call. But
> > if they reached only a lower official they were often told: "Well, if
> > you got that order, you'd better go ahead and do what you were told."
> > These telephone calls caused considerable confusion. All this came out
> > months later during the trials conducted by the Supreme Party Court.
> > The Chief Judge concluded that in every case a misunderstanding had
> > arisen in one link or other of the chain of command. But when they were
> > confronted with apparently genuine orders to organize demonstrations
> > against the Jews that night, most of the Party leaders had simply not
> > known what to do.
> >
> >
> >
> > Obviously a group of centrally organized thugs
> >
> >
> > The pattern of seemingly sporadic anti-Jewish incidents in small towns,
> > followed only later by a carefully planned outburst in many large
> > cities throughout Germany, clearly suggests the work of a centrally
> > organized group of well-trained agents. Even shortly after the Crystal
> > Night, many leading Party officials suspected that the entire affair
> > had been centrally coordinated. Significantly, even Hermann Graml, the
> > only West German historian who has written in detail about the Crystal
> > Night, carefully distinguished between provocateurs and people who were
> > simply carried away by their emotions and spontaneously took part in
> > the riot and destruction.
> >
> >
> >
> > The timing was perfect
> >
> > Most party officials were at a commemoration at the Alte Rathaus in
> > Munich
> >
> > wpeF5.jpg (5381 bytes)
> >
> >
> > Munich on the Ninth of November
> > While all this was happening across the Reich, a special annual
> > commemoration was being held in Munich. Fifteen years earlier, on 9
> > November 1923, a movement led by Adolph Hitler, Erich von Ludendorff (a
> > leading First World War General), and two major figures in the Bavarian
> > government tried to depose the legal government and take responsibility
> > themselves as a new national government. wpeF6.jpg (2743 bytes)
> >
> >
> > Feldherrnhalle
> > wpeF1.jpg (8854 bytes) The uprising or putsch was put down and 16
> > rebels were shot down next to the Feldherrnhalle, a famous old monument
> > building in central Munich. Accordingly, the 9th of November had been
> > commemorated every year since 1933 as the memorial day for the martyred
> > heroes of the National Socialist movement. Adolph Hitler and the Party
> > veterans, as well as all of the Gauleiters (regional Party leaders) met
> > every year in Munich for the occasion. Hitler would usually deliver a
> > speech to a select audience of Party veterans at the famous
> > Buergerbraeukeller restaurant on the evening of the 8th.
> >
> > Hitler and veterans reenact
> >
> > On the morning of the 9th Hitler and his veteran comrades would reenact
> > the 1923 "March to the Feldherrnhalle."
> >
> >
> > wpeF7.jpg (3902 bytes)
> >
> >
> > wpeF0.jpg (3689 bytes) SS ceremony
> >
> > On the evening of the 9th the Fuehrer always held an informal dinner at
> > the Old Town Hall ("Alte Rathaus") with old comrades as well as all the
> > Gauleiters. At midnight young men who were about to enter the SS and
> > the SA were sworn in at the Feldherrnhalle.
> >
> > All of the Gauleiters and other guests participated in this very solemn
> > ceremony. After it was over they left Munich and returned to their
> > homes throughout the Reich.
> >
> >
> > Gaulieters not at posts
> >
> >
> > It is clear that the 9th of November date was chosen very cleverly. The
> > annual commemoration ceremony of that day insured that almost all of
> > the Gauleiters would be away from their home offices when the
> > anti-Jewish demonstrations began. In other words, the actual
> > decision-making responsibilities that were normally carried out by the
> > Gauleiters were temporarily in the hands of lower-ranking individuals
> > with less experience.
> >
> > Between 8 and 10 November, subordinate officials stood in for the
> > Gauleiters who were either in Munich or en route to or from the annual
> > commemoration there. This temporary transfer of decision-making
> > authority is very important because it contributed to much of the
> > subsequent confusion and thus helped the provocateurs. Another
> > contributing factor was the fact that no one expected any trouble. At
> > that time Germany was one of the most peaceful countries in the world.
> >
> >
> > There was no reason to expect any kind of unrest. It was only during
> > dinner at the Old Town Hall that the first sporadic reports of riot and
> > destruction reached Munich from some of the Gauleiter's home offices.
> > At the same time it was learned that Ernst vom Rath had died in Paris
> > from his wounds.
> >
> >
> >
> > What Was Goebbels Doing?
> > wpeF2.jpg (2300 bytes) After the dinner was over, the Fuehrer left at
> > about 9 p.m. and returned to his apartment. Dr. Goebbels then stood up
> > and spoke briefly about the latest news. He informed the audience that
> > vom Rath had died and that, as a result, anti-Jewish demonstrations had
> > spontaneously broken out in two or three places. Goebbels was renowned
> > for his passionate and inspiring speeches. But what he gave that
> > evening was not a speech at all but only a short and very informal
> > announcement.
> >
> >
> >
> > He suggested that the Gauleiters and the head of the SA, Viktor Lutze,
> > should contact their home offices to make sure that peace and order
> > were being maintained.
> >
> >
> > You may have heard the widespread allegation that Goebbels started the
> > Crystal Night pogrom with a fiery speech on that evening of 9 November.
> > This widely accepted story is false. The following facts will clarify
> > this point:
> >
> > As Gauleiter for Berlin, Dr. Goebbels had no authority outside of his
> > Berlin district. Although he was also the Propaganda Minister of the
> > German government, this did not give him any authority over Party
> > officials. Furthermore, he had no authority whatsoever over the SA or
> > the SS.
> >
> >
> > Goebbels understood this damaged the Reich international standing
> > Of all the National Socialist leaders, Dr. Goebbels would have
> > understood better than anyone else the immense damage that an
> > anti-Jewish pogrom would cause for Germany. On the morning of 10
> > November, when he first learned about the extent of the damage and
> > destruction of the previous night, he was furious and shocked at the
> > stupidity of those who had participated.
> >
> > How could a speech given after 9 p.m. on the evening of 9 November have
> > possibly incited a "pogrom" which had already begun the day before when
> > the first provocateurs appeared at municipal and Party offices to
> > persuade officials to take action against the Jews?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Gauleiters telephoned subordinates to maintain peace
> > The Gauleiters and the SA commander went to the telephones and called
> > their respective home offices to order their subordinates to do
> > everything necessary to maintain peace and order. They emphasized that
> > under no circumstances must anyone take part in any demonstrations.
> > These telephone instructions were written down at the home offices by
> > whoever was on duty. The orders from each Gauleiter were then passed on
> > by telex to other offices within the Gau or district. These telex
> > messages are still in various records files and are available to anyone
> > who wishes to examine them.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Orders to Stop the Pogrom
> > wpeF5.jpg (3954 bytes) While the Gauleiters were calling their home
> > offices, the head of the SA, Viktor Lutze, ordered all of his immediate
> > subordinates, the SA Gruppenfuehrers, who were together with him in
> > Munich, to call their home offices as well. Lutze ordered that under no
> > circumstances could SA men take part in any demonstrations against
> > Jews, and that furthermore the SA was to intervene to stop any
> > demonstrations already in progress.
> >
> >
> > SA, Viktor Lutze gives orders to protect Jews
> >
> > As a result of these strict orders, SA men began to guard Jewish stores
> > that very night wherever windows had been broken. There is no doubt
> > about this order by Lutze because we have the postwar court testimony
> > of several witnesses confirming it. The SS and the police were given
> > similar orders to restore peace and order.
> > wpeFB.jpg (2954 bytes)
> >
> >
> >
> > Heydrich orders SS to protect Jews
> > wpeFC.jpg (1558 bytes) Himmler ordered Reinhard Heydrich to prevent
> > all destruction of property and to protect Jews against demonstrators.
> > The telex communication of this order still exists. It is in the files
> > of the International Military Tribunal in Nuremberg.
> > However, during the Nuremberg trial this telex order was presented in
> > three different forms, with forged amendments to change the original
> > meaning.
> >
> > In my book Feuerzeichen I undertook to restore the original text.
> > wpeED.jpg (6116 bytes)
> >
> >
> > Hitler was furious
> > wpeFE.jpg (2489 bytes) Adolf Hitler joined the midnight celebration at
> > the Feldherrnhalle. It was only after he returned to his apartment
> > about one o'clock in the morning that he learned about the
> > demonstrations which had been taking place in Munich, during which one
> > synagogue had been set on fire. He was furious and immediately ordered
> > the police chief of Munich to come see him. Hitler told him to
> > immediately stop the fire and to make sure that no other outrages took
> > place in Munich. He then called various police and Party officials
> > throughout the Reich to learn the extent of these demonstrations
> >
> > Finally, he ordered a telex message sent to all Gauleiter offices. It
> > read: "By express order from the very highest authority, arson against
> > Jewish businesses or other property must in no case and under no
> > circumstances take place." Synagogues were not specifically mentioned,
> > apparently because Hitler was still unaware of the burning of
> > synagogues, apart from the one in Munich.
> >
> > How Did the SA Get Involved Despite the Orders From Its Own Leaders?
> >
> > According to the records, at least three of the 28 SA Groups did not
> > obey the orders of SA chief Lutze. Instead, they sent out their men to
> > destroy synagogues and Jewish buildings. In effect they did precisely
> > the opposite of what Lutze had ordered. What actually happened is clear
> > from the testimony and evidence presented at postwar trials against
> > former SA men accused of participating in the riot.
> >
> >
> >
> > Provocateurs sent messages to SA Brigade
> > wpeED.jpg (2921 bytes) The trials, held between 1946 and 1952, were
> > based to a large extent on the report of SA Brigade 50 chief Karl Lucke
> > and begins with these words: "On 10 November 1938, at 3 o'clock in the
> > morning, I received the following order: 'By order of the
> > Gruppenfuehrer, all Jewish synagogues within the Brigade district are
> > to be immediately blown up or set on fire'." Lucke then included in his
> > report a listing of synagogues which had been destroyed by members of
> > his Brigade.
> >
> > This report has been cited by the prosecution at the Nuremberg Tribunal
> > and by practically all of the consensus historians ever since as proof
> > that the SA was given orders to destroy Jewish stores and synagogues.
> >
> > Lutze ordered the Group leaders to contact their home offices to stop
> > all anti-Jewish demonstrations, Fust, along with the other SA leaders,
> > did just that. He called his office in Mannheim and passed on the
> > orders he had received from Lutze. The man who was on duty that night
> > at the Mannheim SA office telephone and who received Fust's order
> > confirmed that he understood it and then hung up. But he never passed
> > on the order he had received. Instead, he transmitted precisely the
> > opposite order.
> >
> > Fritsch gets bogus orders
> > wpeF0.jpg (1550 bytes) The normal procedure would have been for the
> > man on duty at the telephone to immediately call the deputy group
> > leader, Lucke, who was in nearby Darmstadt. But instead he called SA
> > Oberfuehrer (senior colonel) Fritsch and asked him to come to the
> > office. Fritsch had a reputation for not being particularly clever.
> > When he arrived, the man who had received the telephone call showed him
> > a small paper slip with a few notes on it which said that the
> > synagogues within the Mannheim SA Group district were to be destroyed.
> >
> > The man who had received the call explained to Fritsch that the order
> > had just arrived from Munich. Slow-minded as he was, Fritsch did not
> > know what to do and called the local Kreisleiter (district Party
> > leader) and his deputy. These two men then arrived at the SA office and
> > discussed the situation, while at the same time the telephone duty man
> > notified other SA leaders, but still not the deputy Group leader Lucke.
> > In the meantime the small paper slip disappeared and the SA men now
> > arriving at the headquarters met only the Kreisleiter, who told them
> > about the order which he thought had come from Munich. No one asked for
> > any further confirmation. The SA men then left to begin the
> > destruction. Hours later, when the whole action was almost finished,
> > the telephone guard finally called Deputy Group Leader Lucke and passed
> > on the false order. He also informed Lucke that the action had already
> > been going on for several hours. Since it was almost all over by this
> > time, Lucke also neglected to ask for confirmation of the order. It was
> > already 3 o'clock in the morning. Lucke then alerted the
> > Standartenfuehrer of his Brigade and carried out the destruction within
> > the Darmstadt district.
> >
> > Mysterious telephone call
> >
> >
> > At 8 o'clock the next morning Lucke sat down and wrote the report which
> > was later cited at the Nuremberg Tribunal. In fact, as already shown,
> > there was no order to commit arson or carry out destruction against any
> > Jewish property from the Gruppenfuehrer in Munich, but only from the
> > telephone guard. Who he was remains a mystery. During the postwar
> > trials against members of this SA unit, none of the judges asked for
> > the name or identity of this telephone guard. This mysterious man was
> > very probably an agent for those who were actually behind the entire
> > Crystal Night Affair.
> >
> >
> > The Fine Imposed on the Jews
> > wpeA9.jpg (11601 bytes) German government and Party officials were
> > furious about what had happened. Hermann Goering, who was responsible
> > for Germany's economy, complained that it would be impossible to
> > replace the special plate glass of the broken store windows because it
> > was not manufactured in Germany. It had to be imported from Belgium and
> > would cost a great deal of precious foreign currency.
> >
> >
> >
> > Reason for fine
> > wpeF8.jpg (3662 bytes) Because of the Jewish boycott against German
> > goods, the Reich was short of foreign exchange currency. Goering
> > therefore decided that because this shortage was caused by the Jews, it
> > was they who would have to pay for the broken glass. He imposed a fine
> > of one billion Reichsmarks on the German Jews.
> >
> > It was certainly unjust to force Jews to pay for damage which they had
> > not caused. Goering understood this. However, in private he justified
> > the fine by citing the fact that the 1933 Jewish declaration of war
> > against Germany was proclaimed in the name of the millions of Jews
> > throughout the world.
> >
> > Therefore they could now help their co-religionists in Germany bear the
> > consequences of the boycott. It should also be pointed out that only
> > German Jews with assets of more than 5,000 Reichsmarks in cash had to
> > contribute to the fine. In 1938, when prices were very low, 5,000
> > Reichsmarks was a small fortune.
> >
> > The Reich confiscated all insurance payments that were to have been
> > paid to Jews whose businesses and homes were looted or destroyed and
> > the Jewish owners were made personally responsible for the cost of all
> > repairs.
> >
> >
> >
> > 'Crystal Night' 1938: The great Anti-German spectacle
> > Ingrid Weckert
> >
> > * Paper Presented to the Sixth International Revisionist
> > Conference.
> >
WHO WOULD WANT TO DO SUCH A THING???
AND WHO IN THE WORLD WOULD HAVE THE POWER, MONEY AND READY ARMY???
American society.
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/slavery.htm
http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/rothschild2.html
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/the_rothschild_bloodline.htm
http://www.rothschild.com/groupprivatebanking/?id=businesses/RothschildBankZurich
Below an example of those fine methods that bush wants Americans to adopt.
And will certainly adopt if the republicans win.
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> Last update - 01:18 15/06/2007
> The twilight zone / 'Now you are paralyzed, as we
> promised'
> By Gideon Levy
>
> "We have to make you do a little sports," the Shin Bet
> interrogator said, launching four successive days of
> questioning accompanied by brutal physical torture.
> The result: Luwaii Ashqar can no longer stand on his
> feet. He sits in his wheelchair, dressed in a
> fashionable quasi-military suit, super-elegant, new
> Caterpillar-brand shoes on his paralyzed feet.
>
> "I love this color," he says about his uniform. "It's
> the color of the soldiers who came to arrest me for
> the interrogation that did all this to me."
>
> His smile is captivating, his Hebrew rich and
> incisive. He is a young man whose world fell apart. He
> entered prison sound of body and mind and emerged a
> broken man. For four days and four nights nonstop, he
> says, he was interrogated and subjected to torture of
> the most brutal kind. The result is the person we see
> before us in the wheelchair, in the elegant home high
> in the village of Saida, north of Tul Karm, which was
> placed at his disposal by a friend after he was
> released from Israeli prison a month ago.
>
> Was there a judgment by the High Court of Justice?
> There was. It banned precisely the types of torture he
> underwent: the "banana posture," the "shabah" (body
> stretching with hands tied to a chair), "invisible"
> blows and the "frog posture" (being forced to stand
> for hours on the toes in a crouching position) - all
> the way to a vicious kick to his chest that bent his
> body backward while he was tied to a chair with his
> arms and legs, and which was the probable cause of the
> partial paralysis of his legs.
>
> Throwing up with the vomit entering his nostrils,
> losing consciousness and being given only saltwater to
> drink, relieving himself in his pants, not sleeping or
> resting - all of that for four consecutive days and
> nights.
>
> What does the interrogator Maimon tell his children
> when he goes home? What do Eldad and Sagiv tell their
> wives about their daily labors before they turn in?
> That they tortured another helpless prisoner until
> they turned him into a cripple? That they beat this
> charming young man brutally and that at the end of the
> interrogation he was tried for only marginal offenses?
> And where is the Supreme Court, which in 1999
> prohibited precisely the chain of torture that Luwaii
> Sati Ashqar, 30, who was married three years ago,
> underwent in the Kishon detention facility?
>
> Ashqar is not alone. The Public Committee Against
> Torture in Israel has just issued a new report
> containing the testimonies of nine torture victims
> (English version: http://www.stoptorture.org.il/eng/
> ). As the authors of the shocking report say, the
> testimonies "paint a dismal picture in which can be
> discerned various categories of secret-keeping
> collaborators, who, in keeping silent, protect the
> [Shin Bet] system of torture." ...
>
> On the wall is a picture, a fine drawing of a kneeling
> prisoner, his head between his knees. The caption: "I
> am in the darkness of the prison, living on your
> memory. I am far from you, lying in my bed, my spirit
> cruising your land all night. God will release all the
> prisoners, the strong will triumph."
>
> Ashqar is sitting in his wheelchair, his left leg
> completely enclosed in a cast, his right leg shaking
> nonstop. When he tries to get up and lean on his
> crutches, he threatens to topple over. "I was married
> in 2004, and I started to work in aluminum in the
> village to provide for my new household. On April 22,
> 2005, at 2:30 A.M., the soldiers came and started to
> throw grenades and to shout for everyone in the house
> to go outside. They blindfolded me with whatever they
> use and handcuffed me. I was taken in a jeep to prison
> and I was examined by an army doctor. He looked over
> my body - no operations, doesn't take medication, no
> illnesses. Again I was taken in a military jeep, this
> time to Kishon. 'Yehuda, incoming,' the warder said
> and transferred me to the interrogation office. They
> opened my eyes: Good morning. An excellent morning.
> One of the interrogators, Maimon, told me: I am
> responsible for your file. What file? The one you were
> arrested for. This is the major, and this tall guy is
> the colonel, this is Sagiv and this is Eldad. Eight
> interrogators.
>
> "They said: We have no time, it will soon be our
> Passover and you have to finish everything in a short
> time. Finish what? You have to tell us what you have.
> I don't have anything to tell you. I begged. They
> said: We know all that nonsense. We are talking about
> security. Plans for terrorist attacks at Passover. I
> said: I don't understand what you are talking about.
> They said: The suicide bomber was at your place. What
> suicide bomber?
>
> "After two hours of talking they said to me: If you
> don't give everything you have, we will have to take
> it by a different way. What is the different way? Did
> you hear of a military interrogation? You might leave
> here with your body battered or crippled. I was taken
> to a military interrogation. Here you pray to God that
> you will die, they said, but we won't give you that.
> We will let you die only after you spill out what we
> are looking for. He gave me a prison uniform and I
> told him that if I was going to die, I preferred my
> own clothes.
>
> "They sat me down on a square chair without a back,
> which was attached to the floor and had sharp metal
> ends [sticking up]. My legs were tied to the legs of
> the chair with metal cuffs and my hands were tied
> behind my back with metal cuffs. One interrogator sat
> behind me and the other in front of me. The
> interrogator opposite me said: We have to give you a
> little sports, so you will be able to hold out in the
> military interrogation. The sports was that they
> pushed me backward by the chest, a backward
> somersault, and I would hold myself so my bones would
> not break. After a minute or two I would automatically
> fall on the floor, but the interrogator behind me
> would put his foot on my chest and press, and the
> interrogator in front would grab my hands and pull and
> pull behind the chair. They kept on like that until I
> don't know what happened to me, heat in every part of
> my body, puking everything I had in my stomach and it
> would go into my nostrils. I would wake up when they
> poured water on my face. When I woke up, we went back
> to the same situation. It went on like this 15-20
> times an hour.
>
> "After that they made me crouch on my toes, not
> letting me lean on the back of my foot. I was in that
> position for 40-50 minutes, maybe an hour - that was
> my estimate - until I felt my soles swelling and they
> turned blue and there was tremendous pain. After that,
> stand up, and they tied my hands and pressed as hard
> as they could on the metal handcuffs until the metal
> dug into my hand. Here are the signs, you can still
> see them. Because of the pressure, the key of the
> handcuffs didn't always work and they would bring huge
> metal scissors, like they use in construction, and
> tear off the handcuffs and then bring new ones, to go
> on. The color of my hands changed to blue, and when
> they opened [the handcuffs] my hands shook. The
> interrogator stood on the table and pulled me with a
> chain of handcuffs. When I fell, they pulled me by the
> hair.
>
> "I would cry, beg, shout, and they came back to me
> with words, that it was impossible to stop, only after
> you start talking about what we want. I said to them:
> Tell me what you want. Tell me I am responsible for
> the attack on the Pentagon, I am ready to confess to
> everything, just tell me what. I want to end this
> death."
>
> "There were always four interrogators and two rotated
> every four hours, day and night. The new ones would
> tell me they were stronger than the ones before, that
> the ones before were a joke, we are the strong ones.
> And that was true. The new ones tied me and started to
> beat me all over my body. One interrogator pressed
> hard on my testicles and on my feet with his shoes.
> When they slapped me and I tried to pull back, the
> major would say: What are you doing? If you move back,
> I will break your nose, and if you move forward I will
> rip off your ear. Be strong and take it sportingly,
> because you are a soldier and a fighter. They broke
> this tooth."
>
> Ashqar suddenly stops talking. He turns pale and his
> face is covered with beads of perspiration. His
> father, Sati, quickly wipes his face with a damp
> cloth. "Every time I try to remember I get dizzy, even
> when I am alone." Quiet descends in the room. It will
> take Ashqar another few minutes to pull himself
> together.
>
> "I was taken into detention on Friday morning, and
> that was the last light of day I saw before the
> interrogation. I came out for the first time on Monday
> night or before dawn on Tuesday morning. On those long
> days I sat in a chair and did not even go to the
> toilet. So you won't kill yourself, they said. I
> urinated in my clothes, and a terrible stench started.
> For four days I didn't eat anything. They told me: If
> we give you something to eat, something will happen to
> your stomach and your intestines. Maybe they will
> explode under the pressure of the food when we push
> you backward. You will drink only half a cup of
> saltwater. That is what they gave me every time after
> they bent me and I vomited. Why with salt? I asked.
> Give me without salt. No, so nothing will happen in
> your stomach and intestines. I would drink it and
> vomit.
>
> "On Monday evening, they told me that five witnesses
> had testified that Luwaii had transported a wanted
> man. I told them that there was a famous wanted man
> named Luwaii Sadi, but my name is Luwaii Sati, and
> maybe they had mixed us up. He said to me: Are you
> saying the Shin Bet is that stupid? We know exactly
> what we're doing, and it is all correct. I said: Put
> me on trial for whatever you want. He said: Ya'allah,
> sports again. He pushes me backward in the chair. I
> will help you become a story in Palestinian history.
> He is talking to me and my head is down below. He
> pushes strongly with his leg and presses on my chest.
> I felt something like an explosion in my body. Like
> something broke. After that I don't know what
> happened. I woke up and they were pouring water on my
> face. Again they pushed me backward and again I
> fainted.
>
> "He said to me: Stand on your feet. I felt that my
> legs were cold, like pins and needles in the legs. I
> said: I can't. He said: Now you are paralyzed. I said:
> I guess I am. He said: That is what we promised you
> and that is what you want."
>
>
> "I discovered I had a wound in the back and it was
> bleeding - because of the sharp chair - and one of my
> bones was protruding. Because of the blood and because
> of the urine of four days there was such a stench that
> the interrogator could not come close to me. He said:
> Why do you stink like that? I told him: That is your
> perfume. A warder took me to the shower and threw me
> on the floor and said to me: Ya'allah, you have two
> minutes to shower. I looked at the faucet up above and
> I could not reach it. I pulled down my pants and the
> underpants stayed in place. I tried to pull them down
> - I could do it in front but behind it was stuck to my
> back. The two minutes went by and the warder started
> to pound on the door. Time's up. I told him: Give me
> another two minutes, I can't reach the faucet. He came
> in and asked: What do you have on your back? I said: I
> don't know.
>
> "He called the interrogator and said: Come and see the
> prisoner. The interrogator came and asked: What do you
> have, Luwaii? I said: I don't know what I have on my
> back, I can't pull the underpants down and I can't
> reach the faucet. He said: Ya'allah, we will go up and
> finish the story and take you to the doctor.
>
> "Two warders took me in a Prisons Service vehicle to
> Rambam [Medical Center in Haifa]. In emergency, my
> hands and feet were tied and a Russian doctor asked
> me: What hurts you? I told him: My whole body hurts
> from the interrogation. The Druze warder said: Shut
> up. The doctor turned me on the side and stuck a
> finger into my ass. I asked him: What are you doing?
> He said: I am checking whether you have hemorrhoids.
> Why didn't you ask me first? I am a professional, he
> said. I said: What about the wound on the back? He put
> ointment there and dressed it. After 10 minutes I was
> taken back to interrogation. Again I was tied to the
> square chair. The bandage fell off and the wound
> started to bleed again. After that, they stopped the
> military interrogation."
>
>
> He was interrogated for another two months, but
> without physical torture. He was told that his wife
> had been arrested because of him - a complete
> fabrication - and he was given a lie detector test
> ("the falsehoods machine," in his Hebrew). For two
> weeks he was placed in a cell with stool pigeons. In
> the end, he was indicted on only two counts, in
> Prosecution File 2157/05: assisting a wanted person to
> hide and using a forged document. No ticking and no
> bomb. Ashqar was sentenced to 26 months in prison and
> was released a month ago. In the meantime, his younger
> brother, Osaimar, disappeared. Soldiers came to the
> house looking for him, but he was not there. His
> family has not seen him since: He told them that he
> was not willing to undergo what Luwaii did.
>
> Luwaii is now looking for a way to get medical
> treatment in Israel or abroad, after his physician
> told him that he would not be able to get
> rehabilitation in the West Bank. His lawyer told him
> that the Shin Bet will almost certainly prevent him
> from going anywhere.
>
> ---
>
> This is the response received by Haaretz from the Shin
> Bet:
>
> Luwaii Ashqar was arrested in April 2005, after
> serious suspicions were raised against him concerning
> his involvement in terrorism, including possession of
> weapons and assistance to wanted individuals - terror
> activists from Islamic Jihad.
>
> One of the suspicions was that he had provided
> accommodation, ahead of a terrorist act, for Sirhan
> Sarhan, the perpetrator of the attack in Kibbutz
> Metzer, who murdered Revital Ohayon and her two
> children, Noam and Matan, of blessed memory.
>
> The suspect was tried and convicted in a plea bargain,
> and sentenced to 14 months in prison and another 14
> months in prison stemming from a pending conditional
> sentence, so that all told he was sentenced to 26
> months in prison. In addition, he received a 28-month
> suspended sentence.
>
> His interrogation was carried out according to the
> rules and directives, with constant review of the
> interrogation process.
>
> During the interrogation, the above-named put forward
> medical complaints, which were examined and treated by
> the appropriate medical authorities, including an
> examination he underwent in hospital.
>
> It should be noted that during the interrogation he
> did not cite medical complaints of the same
> seriousness as those mentioned in the query.
>
> Complaints relating to his interrogation, from, among
> other sources, the Committee Against Torture and the
> Red Cross, were referred to the State Prosecutor's
> Office for examination, which ordered an examination
> by the Ombudsman of Interogees' Complaints.
>
> The examination of the complaints did not turn up any
> excesses in the interrogation, and in the wake of
> this, the official in charge of the OIC in the State
> Prosecutor's Office decided to close the examination
> file.
>
> http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/871239.html
>
WHO WOULD WANT TO DO SUCH A THING???
AND WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO???
WELL THINK CAREFULLY ABOUT THE NEXT .
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> U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens
> Published on Monday, February 04, 2008.
>
>
> Source: Propaganda Matrix- Paul Joseph Watson
>
> U.S. troops are being trained to conduct round-ups, confiscate guns and
> shoot American citizens, including their own friends and family members,
as
> part of a long-standing program to prepare for the declaration of martial
> law, according to a soldier who recently returned from Iraq.
>
> We received an e mail from "Scott", a member of a pipefitters union that
> runs an apprenticeship program called Helmets To Hard Hats, which
according
> to its website, "Is a national program that connects National Guard,
Reserve
> and transitioning active-duty military members with quality career
training
> and employment opportunities within the construction industry."
> Scott writes that his company hired a soldier who had recently returned
from
> Iraq, who told him that U.S. troops were being quizzed on whether or not
> they would be prepared to shoot their own friends and family members
during
> a national state of emergency in America.
>
> "I have become very close to this young man and have gained his respect
and
> trust," writes Scott. "I want you to know that he informed me about one
> particular training exercise his superiors made them perform. It was
> concerning the rounding up of American citizens that disobey any type of
> martial law or in other words any type of infringement on our freedoms."
>
> "He was asked if he could shoot his friends or family members if ordered
to
> do so. At the time he said he could," writes Scott.
> Scott says that the soldier later "had time to clear his head" and realize
> the truth, recanting his vow to kill his own countrymen if ordered to do
so.
>
> The issue of whether U.S. troops would be prepared to round-up, disarm and
> if necessary shoot Americans who disobeyed orders during a state of
martial
> law is a question that military chiefs have been attempting to answer for
at
> least 15 years.
>
> Its known origins can be traced back to an October 1994 Marine
questionnaire
> out of the Twentynine Palms Marine Base in California. Recruits were asked
> 46 questions, including whether they would kill U.S. citizens who refused
to
> surrender their firearms.
>
> Documentary film maker Alex Jones brought to light similar training
programs
> that were taking place across the country in the late 90's which revolved
> around U.S. Marines being trained to arrest American citizens and take
them
> to internment camps.
>
> During one such program in Oakland California, dubbed "Operation Urban
> Warrior," Marines refused to answer if they would target American citizens
> for gun confiscation if ordered to do so.
>
>
>
> During hurricane Katrina, National Guard units were ordered to confiscate
> guns belonging to New Orleans residents.
>
> As we first exposed in May 2006, Clergy Response Teams are being trained
by
> the federal government and FEMA to "quell dissent" and pacify citizens to
> obey the government in the event of a declaration of martial law.
>
> Pastors and other religious representatives are being taught to become
> secret police enforcers who teach their congregations to "obey the
> government" in preparation for the implementation of martial law, property
> and firearm seizures, mass vaccination programs and forced relocation.
>
> Many scoffed at our original story, which was based on the testimony of a
> whistleblower who was asked to participate in the program. Claims that the
> story was a conspiracy theory soon evaporated when a mainstream KSLA news
> report confirmed the existence of the program.
>
>
>
> The experiences of U.S. troops in the worst areas of Iraq, where soldiers
> are ordered to go door to door and arrest all men of military age as well
as
> confiscate their weapons, is a mere portend of what is being planned for
> America if these training programs ever come to fruition.
>
>
> http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=5482
>
Semitism is the baton used in Germany to kill any sounds that clear the
picture of human rights violation Israel commits.
HAVE WE JOINED THE GUTLESS POLS AND ACADEMICS IN OUR COUNTRY?
AND THESE GUTLESS ACADEMICS IN NOT QUESTIONING ARE SUPPORTING THE LIES AND
PROPAGANDA SPREAD BY ZIONISTS / ISRAEL AND
SUPPORTERS WHO BY THE WAY ARE NOT EITHER LOYAL CITIZENS TO OUR WESTERN
DEMOCRACIES OR HONEST MEN/WOMEN TO SUPPORT SUCH LIES.
ACADEMICS BY THEIR SILENCE ALLOWING THESE FRAUDS TO ENJOY A GOOD LIVING ON
THESE LIES AND BY THEIR INACTION PERSECUTING HONEST ACADEMICS SIMPLY FOR
EXPOSING THE TRUTH.
Casualties in WW2
Not including the documented 5 million non Jewish in concentration camps
who far out numbered the suspected true number (700,000 ODD) of Jewish
victims. And this is without lies and exaggerations about non jewish
cassualities. And freedom for any historian or amateur history buff to
examine and point out flaws without fear of castigation or jail terms.
And no one is going around asking for special favors and sympathy because of
these immense casualities. And certainly don't look like getting anything
from jewish interests who by lies have swollen their numbers to higher than
these. AND BEGGED ALL SORTS OF FAVORS AND REPARATIONS WITH THOSE EXAGERATED
FIGURES. WHILE USING THEIR STORIES TO CAUSE AN IMMENSE SPLIT BETWEEN NON
JEWS IN EUROPE AND AMERICA.
WHILE OF COURSE QUITE FREE THEMSELVES TO ASSOCIATE WITH THEIR FELLOW JEWS IN
Germany, EUROPE AND ARAB COUNTRIES.
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On Mar 22, 12:40 am, "Ben H. Cramer" <b...@home.com> wrote:
> Article contributed by a fan in Finnnnnnnnlannnnnd.
>
> Did the Allies and Jews lie about the Holocaust?
> Nearly everyone has heard of Auschwitz, the German wartime concentration
> camp where many prisoners -- most of them Jewish -- were reportedly
> exterminated, especially in gas chambers. Auschwitz is widely regarded as
> the most terrible Nazi extermination center. The camp's horrific
> reputation
> cannot, however, be reconciled with the facts.
>
> Scholars Challenge Holocaust Story
>
> Astonishing as it may seem, more and more historians and engineers have
> been
> challenging the widely accepted Auschwitz story. These "revisionist"
> scholars do not dispute the fact that large numbers of Jews were deported
> to
> the camp, or that many died there, particularly of typhus and other
> diseases. But the compelling evidence they present shows that Auschwitz
> was
> not an extermination center and that the story of mass killings in "gas
> chambers" is a myth.
>
> The Auschwitz Camps
>
> The Auschwitz camp complex was set up in 1940 in what is now south-central
> Poland. Large numbers of Jews were deported there between 1942 and
> mid-1944.
>
> The main camp was known as Auschwitz I. Birkenau, or Auschwitz II, was
> supposedly the main extermination center, and Monowitz, or Auschwitz III,
> was a large industrial center where gasoline was produced from coal. In
> addition there were dozens of smaller satellite camps devoted to the war
> economy.
>
> Four Million Victims?
>
> At the postwar Nuremberg Tribunal, the Allies charged that the Germans
> exterminated four million people at Auschwitz. This figure, which was
> invented by the Soviets, was uncritically accepted for many years. It
> often
> appeared in major American newspapers and magazines, for example. [1]
>
> Today no reputable historian, not even those who generally accept the
> extermination story, believes this figure. Israeli Holocaust historian
> Yehuda Bauer said in 1989 that it is time to finally acknowledge the
> familiar four million figure is a deliberate myth. In July 1990 the
> Auschwitz State Museum in Poland, along with Israel's Yad Vashem Holocaust
> Center, suddenly announced that altogether perhaps one million people
> (both
> Jews and non-Jews) died there. Neither institution would say how many of
> these people were killed, nor were any estimates given of the numbers of
> those supposedly gassed. [2] One prominent Holocaust historian, Gerald
> Reitlinger, has estimated that perhaps 700,000 or so Jews perished at
> Auschwitz. More recently, Holocaust historian Jean-Claude Pressac has
> estimated that about 800,000 persons -- of whom 630,000 were Jewish --
> perished at Auschwitz. While even such lower figures are incorrect, they
> show how the Auschwitz story has changed drastically over the years. [3]
>
> Bizarre Tales
>
> At one time it was seriously claimed that Jews were systematically
> electrocuted at Auschwitz. American newspapers, citing a Soviet eyewitness
> report from liberated Auschwitz, told readers in February 1945 that the
> methodical Germans had killed Jews there using an "electric conveyor belt
> on
> which hundreds of persons could be electrocuted simultaneously [and] then
> moved on into furnaces. They were burned almost instantly, producing
> fertilizer for nearby cabbage fields." [4]
>
> And at the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief U.S. prosecutor Robert Jackson
> charged
> that the Germans used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously
> "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no
> trace
> left of them." [5] No reputable historian now accepts either of these
> fanciful tales.
>
> The Höss 'Confession'
>
> A key Holocaust document is the "confession" of former Auschwitz
> commandant
> Rudolf Höss of April 5, 1946, which was submitted by the U.S. prosecution
> at
> the main Nuremberg trial. [6]
>
> Although it is still widely cited as solid proof for the Auschwitz
> extermination story, it is actually a false statement that was obtained by
> torture.
>
> Many years after the war, British military intelligence sergeant Bernard
> Clarke described how he and five other British soldiers tortured the
> former
> commandant to obtain his "confession." Höss himself privately explained
> his
> ordeal in these words: "Certainly, I signed a statement that I killed two
> and half million Jews. I could just as well have said that it was five
> million Jews. There are certain methods by which any confession can be
> obtained, whether it is true or not." [7]
>
> Even historians who generally accept the Holocaust extermination story now
> acknowledge that many of the specific statements made in the Höss
> "affidavit" are simply not true. For one thing, no serious scholar now
> claims that anything like two and a half or three million people perished
> in
> Auschwitz.
>
> The Höss "affidavit" further alleges that Jews were already being
> exterminated by gas in the summer of 1941 at three other camps: Belzec,
> Treblinka and Wolzek. The "Wolzek" camp mentioned by Höss is a total
> invention. No such camp existed, and the name is no longer mentioned in
> Holocaust literature. Moreover, the story these days by those who believe
> in
> the Holocaust legend is that gassings of Jews did not begin at Auschwitz,
> Treblinka, or Belzec until sometime in 1942.
>
> No Documentary Evidence
>
> Many thousands of secret German documents dealing with Auschwitz were
> confiscated after the war by the Allies. Not a single one refers to a
> policy
> or program of extermination. In fact, the extermination story cannot be
> reconciled with the documentary evidence.
>
> Many Jewish Inmates Unable to Work
>
> For example, it is often claimed that all Jews at Auschwitz who were
> unable
> to work were immediately killed. Jews who were too old, young, sick, or
> weak
> were supposedly gassed on arrival, and only those who could be worked to
> death were temporarily kept alive.
>
> But the evidence shows that, in fact, a very high percentage of the Jewish
> inmates were not able to work, and were nevertheless not killed. For
> example, an internal German telex message dated Sept. 4, 1943, from the
> chief of the Labor Allocation department of the SS Economic and
> Administrative Main Office (WVHA), reported that of 25,000 Jewish inmates
> in
> Auschwitz, only 3,581 were able to work, and that all of the remaining
> Jewish inmates -- some 21,500, or about 86 percent -- were unable to work.
> [8]
>
> This is also confirmed in a secret report dated April 5, 1944, on
> "security
> measures in Auschwitz" by Oswald Pohl, head of the SS concentration camp
> system, to SS chief Heinrich Himmler. Pohl reported that there was a total
> of 67,000 inmates in the entire Auschwitz camp complex, of whom 18,000
> were
> hospitalized or disabled. In the Auschwitz II camp (Birkenau), supposedly
> the main extermination center, there were 36,000 inmates, mostly female,
> of
> whom "approximately 15,000 are unable to work." [9]
>
> These two documents simply cannot be reconciled with the Auschwitz
> extermination story.
>
> The evidence shows that Auschwitz-Birkenau was established primarily as a
> camp for Jews who were not able to work, including the sick and elderly,
> as
> well as for those who were temporarily awaiting assignment to other camps.
> That's the considered view of Dr. Arthur Butz of Northwestern University,
> who also says that this was the reason for the unusually high death rate
> there. [10]
>
> Princeton University history professor Arno Mayer, who is Jewish,
> acknowledges in a recent book about the "final solution" that more Jews
> perished at Auschwitz as a result of typhus and other "natural" causes
> than
> were executed. [11]
>
> Anne Frank
>
> Perhaps the best known Auschwitz inmate was Anne Frank, who is known
> around
> the world for her famous diary. But few people know that thousands of
> Jews,
> including Anne and her father, Otto Frank, "survived" Auschwitz.
>
> The 15-year-old girl and her father were deported from the Netherlands to
> Auschwitz in September 1944. Several weeks later, in the face of the
> advancing Soviet army, Anne was evacuated along with many other Jews to
> the
> Bergen-Belsen camp, where she died of typhus in March 1945.
>
> Her father came down with typhus in Auschwitz and was sent to the camp
> hospital to recover. He was one of thousands of sick and feeble Jews who
> were left behind when the Germans abandoned the camp in January 1945,
> shortly before it was overrun by the Soviets. He died in Switzerland in
> 1980.
>
> If the German policy had been to kill Anne Frank and her father, they
> would
> not have survived Auschwitz. Their fate, tragic though it was, cannot be
> reconciled with the extermination story.
>
> Allied Propaganda
>
> The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay
> statements
> of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any evidence of
> extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about
> gassings at Auschwitz were widespread.
>
> Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and
> German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people
> were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an
> important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast
> to Europe by Allied radio stations. [12]
>
> Survivor Testimony
>
> Former inmates have confirmed that they saw no evidence of extermination
> at
> Auschwitz.
>
> An Austrian woman, Maria Vanherwaarden, testified about her camp
> experiences
> in a Toronto District Court in March 1988. She was interned in
> Auschwitz-Birkenau in 1942 for having sexual relations with a Polish
> forced
> laborer. On the train trip to the camp, a Gypsy woman told her and the
> others that they would all be gassed at Auschwitz.
>
> Upon arrival, Maria and the other women were ordered to undress and go
> into
> a large concrete room without windows to take a shower. The terrified
> women
> were sure that they were about to die. But then, instead of gas, water
> came
> out of the shower heads.
>
> Auschwitz was no vacation center, Maria confirmed. She witnessed the death
> of many fellow inmates by disease, particularly typhus, and quite a few
> committed suicide. But she saw no evidence at all of mass killings,
> gassings, or of any extermination program. [13]
>
> A Jewish woman named Marika Frank arrived at Auschwitz-Birkenau from
> Hungary
> in July 1944, when 25,000 Jews were supposedly gassed and cremated daily.
> She likewise testified after the war that she heard and saw nothing of
> "gas
> chambers" during the time she was interned there. She heard the gassing
> stories only later. [14]
>
> Inmates Released
>
> Auschwitz internees who had served their sentences were released and
> returned to their home countries. If Auschwitz had actually been a top
> secret extermination center, the Germans would certainly not have released
> inmates who "knew" what was happening in the camp. [15]
>
> Himmler Orders Death Rate Reduced
>
> In response to the deaths of many inmates due to disease, especially
> typhus,
> the German authorities responsible for the camps ordered firm
> counter-measures.
>
> The head of the SS camp administration office sent a directive dated Dec.
> 28, 1942, to Auschwitz and the other concentration camps. It sharply
> criticized the high death rate of inmates due to disease, and ordered that
> "camp physicians must use all means at their disposal to significantly
> reduce the death rate in the various camps." Furthermore, it ordered:
>
> The camp doctors must supervise more often than in the past the nutrition
> of
> the prisoners and, in cooperation with the administration, submit
> improvement recommendations to the camp commandants ... The camp doctors
> are
> to see to it that the working conditions at the various labor places are
> improved as much as possible.
>
> Finally, the directive stressed that "the Reichsfhrer SS [Heinrich
> Himmler]
> has ordered that the death rate absolutely must be reduced." [16]
>
> German Camp Regulations
>
> Official German camp regulations make clear that Auschwitz was not an
> extermination center. They ordered: [17]
>
> New arrivals in the camp are to be given a thorough medical examination,
> and
> if there is any doubt [about their health], they must be sent to
> quarantine
> for observation.
>
> Prisoners who report sick must be examined that same day by the camp
> physician. If necessary, the physician must transfer the prisoners to a
> hospital for professional treatment.
>
> The camp physician must regularly inspect the kitchen regarding the
> preparation of the food and the quality of the food supply. Any
> deficiencies
> that may arise must be reported to the camp commandant.
>
> Special care should be given in the treatment of accidents, in order not
> to
> impair the full productivity of the prisoners.
>
> Prisoners who are to be released or transfered must first be brought
> before
> the camp physician for medical examination.
>
> Telltale Aerial Photos
>
> Detailed aerial reconnaissance photographs taken of Auschwitz-Birkenau on
> several random days in 1944 (during the height of the alleged
> extermination
> period there) were made public by the CIA in 1979. These photos show no
> trace of piles of corpses, smoking crematory chimneys or masses of Jews
> awaiting death, things that have been repeatedly alleged, and all of which
> would have been clearly visible if Auschwitz had been the extermination
> center it is said to have been. [18]
>
> Absurd Cremation Claims
>
> Cremation specialists have confirmed that thousands of corpses could not
> possibly have been cremated every day throughout the spring and summer of
> 1944 at Auschwitz, as commonly alleged.
>
> For example, Mr. Ivan Lagace, manager of a large crematory in Calgary,
> Canada, testified in court in April 1988 that the Auschwitz cremation
> story
> is technically impossible. The allegation that 10,000 or even 20,000
> corpses
> were burned every day at Auschwitz in the summer of 1944 in crematories
> and
> open pits is simply "preposterous" and "beyond the realm of reality," he
> declared under oath. [19]
>
> Gassing Expert Refutes Extermination Story
>
> America's leading gas chamber expert, Boston engineer Fred A. Leuchter,
> carefully examined the supposed "gas chambers" in Poland and concluded
> that
> the Auschwitz gassing story is absurd and technically impossible.
>
> Leuchter is the foremost specialist on the design and installation of gas
> chambers used in the United States to execute convicted criminals. For
> example, he designed a gas chamber facility for the Missouri state
> penitentiary.
>
> In February 1988 he carried out a detailed onsite examination of the "gas
> chambers" at Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek in Poland, which are either
> still standing or only partially in ruins. In sworn testimony to a Toronto
> court and in a technical report, Leuchter described every aspect of his
> investigation.
>
> He concluded by emphatically declaring that the alleged gassing facilities
> could not possibly have been used to kill people. Among other things, he
> pointed out that the so-called "gas chambers" were not properly sealed or
> vented to kill human beings without also killing German camp personnel.
> [20]
>
> Dr. William B. Lindsey, a research chemist employed for 33 years by the
> Dupont Corporation, likewise testified in a 1985 court case that the
> Auschwitz gassing story is technically impossible. Based on a careful
> on-site examination of the "gas chambers" at Auschwitz, Birkenau and
> Majdanek, and on his years of experience, he declared: "I have come to the
> conclusion that no one was willfully or purposefully killed with Zyklon B
> [hydrocyanic acid gas] in this manner. I consider it absolutely
> impossible."
> [21]
>
> Summary
>
> The Auschwitz extermination story originated as wartime propaganda. Now,
> more than 60 years after the end of the Second World War, it is time to
> take
> another, more objective look at this highly polemicized chapter of
> history.
> The Auschwitz legend is the core of the Holocaust story. If hundreds of
> thousands of Jews were not systematically killed there, as alleged, one of
> the great myths of our time collapses.
>
> Artificially maintaining the hatreds and passions of the past prevents
> genuine reconciliation and lasting peace. Revisionism promotes historical
> awareness and international understanding. That is why the work of the
> Institute for Historical Review is so important and deserves your support.
>
> Notes
>
> 1. Nuremberg document 008-USSR. IMT blue series, Vol. 39, pp. 241, 261.;
> NC
> and A red series, vol. 1, p. 35.; C.L. Sulzberger, "Oswiecim Killings
> Placed
> at 4,000,000," New York Times, May 8, 1945, and, New York Times, Jan. 31,
> 1986,
> p. A4.
> 2. Y. Bauer, "Fighting the Distortions," Jerusalem Post (Israel), Sept.
> 22,
> 1989; "Auschwitz Deaths Reduced to a Million," Daily Telegraph (London),
> July
> 17, 1990; "Poland Reduces Auschwitz Death Toll Estimate to 1 Million," The
> Washington Times, July 17, 1990.
> 3. G. Reitlinger, The Final Solution (1971); J.-C. Pressac, Le Crématoires
> d'Auschwitz: La Machinerie du meurtre de mass (Paris: CNRS, 1993). On
> Pressac's
> estimates, see: L'Express (France), Sept. 30, 1993, p. 33.
> 4. Washington (DC) Daily News, Feb. 2, 1945, pp. 2, 35. (United Press
> dispatch from Moscow).
> 5. IMT blue series, Vol. 16, p. 529-530. (June 21, 1946).
> 6. Nuremberg document 3868-PS (USA-819). IMT blue series, Vol. 33, pp.
> 275-279.
> 7. Rupert Butler, Legions of Death (England: 1983), pp. 235; R. Faurisson,
> The Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1986-87, pp. 389-403.
> 8. Archives of the Jewish Historical Institute of Warsaw, German document
> No. 128, in: H. Eschwege, ed., Kennzeichen J (East Berlin: 1966), p. 264.
> 9. Nuremberg document NO-021. NMT green series, Vol. 5. pp. 384-385.
> 10. Arthur Butz, The Hoax of the Twentieth Century (Costa Mesa, Calif.),
> p.
> 124.
> 11. Arno Mayer, Why Did the Heavens Not Darken?: The 'Final Solution' in
> History (Pantheon, 1989), p. 365.
> 12. Nuremberg document NI-11696. NMT green series, Vol. 8, p. 606.
> 13. Testimony in Toronto District Court, March 28, 1988. Toronto Star,
> March
> 29, 1988, p. A2.
> 14. Sylvia Rothchild, ed., Voices from the Holocaust (New York: 1981), pp.
> 188-191.
> 15. Walter Laqueur, The Terrible Secret (Boston: 1981), p. 169.
> 16. Nuremberg document PS-2171, Annex 2. NC&A red series, Vol. 4, pp.
> 833-834.
> 17. "Rules and Regulations for the Concentration Camps." Anthology,
> Inhuman
> Medicine, Vol. 1, Part 1 (Warsaw: International Auschwitz Committee,
> 1970),
> pp.
> 149-151.; S. Paskuly, ed., Death Dealer: the Memoirs of the SS Kommandant
> at
> Auschwitz (Buffalo: 1992), pp. 216-217.
> 18. Dino A. Brugioni and Robert C. Poirier, The Holocaust Revisited
> (Washington, DC: Central Intelligence Agency, 1979).
> 19. Canadian Jewish News (Toronto), April 14, 1988, p. 6.
> 20. The Leuchter Report: An Engineering Report on the Alleged Execution
> Gas
> Chambers at Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek (Toronto: 1988). Available
> for
> $17.00, postpaid, from the IHR.
> 21. The Globe and Mail (Toronto), Feb. 12, 1985, p. M3
> #2001
Interested only in Israel and jews Lieberman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1iUCuo6ERg
http://www.msnbc.com/news/606092.asp?0si=&cp1=1
http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/talmud.htm
http://www.iahushua.com/JQ/talmud.html
http://www3.stormfront.org/jewish/talmud.html
I would point out that stormfront is the only critical of the Talmud.
Like the holocaust no non jew cared enough to really study the matter till
we found our freedoms encroached and our lives threatened by the Talmud
driven jews.
http://stormfront.org/jewish/talmud.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/talmud_&_mishna.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hefIti-uFUo&feature=related
the killing of Rachel Corrie a non Jewish American who was killed by the
IDF by being run down by a bulldozer,
and the driver then driving past the grieving peace vo;unteers with a smirk
on his face.
And apparently Christian america along with Christian Americans have not had
a word to say.
Just compare the difference below.
http://www.thenausea.com/elements/thenotforgotten/rachel/index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/16/rafah.death/
One guy gets 10 years, the other gets a raise and promotion?? For killing
a non jewish american? And gets to smirk about it?
http://www.jonathanpollard.org/1993/051693.htm
Compounding the duplicity swirling around the case was the jurors'
remarkable verdict: Mr. Nelson was indeed guilty of depriving his victim of
his civil rights by stabbing him - but not by killing him. Thus, instead of
a possible life sentence, the murderer, with credit for time served, may be
a free man in a matter of months.
http://www.jlaw.com/Commentary/3dayriot.html
It is thus with intense interest that we watch as a federal jury in Brooklyn
hears the case of United States vs. Lemrick Nelson, Jr. and Charles Price --
respectively, the accused killer of Yankel Rosenbaum, and the man charged
with inciting the mob that pursued Rosenbaum. As Coalition goes to press,
the trial has finally begun and the prosecution is presenting powerful
evidence against the two defendants
http://www.thenausea.com/elements/thenotforgotten/rachel/index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/16/rafah.death/
http://newsfromthewest.blogspot.com/2007/09/frequently-asked-questions-about.html
about the holocaust
A key piece of Holocaust evidence is the "confession" of former Auschwitz
commandant Rudolf Höss. In a sworn statement, and in testimony before the
Nuremberg Tribunal on April 15, 1946, he declared that between May 1940 and
December 1943, while he was Commandant of the camp complex, "at least two
and a half million victims were executed and exterminated there by gassing
and burning," and that "at least another half million succumbed to
starvation and disease, making a total dead of about three million" during
that period alone. [7] Although it is still widely cited as solid proof for
the Auschwitz extermination story, this "confession" is actually a false
statement that was obtained by torture.
Many years after the war, British military intelligence sergeant Bernard
Clarke described how he and five other British soldiers tortured the former
commandant to obtain his "confession." Höss himself privately explained his
ordeal in these words: "Certainly, I signed a statement that I killed two
and half million Jews. I could just as well have said that it was five
million Jews. There are certain methods by which any confession can be
obtained, whether it is true or not." [8]
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In the beginning
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That in 1880 the total Jewish population in Palestine was about 24,000 all
of whom were living in safety, and with dignity - this was at a time when
Jews were being persecuted, tortured and killed in Europe and Russia;
The hopes of the maskalim and of Russian Jewry in general, however, were
misplaced. Alexander II was assassinated in 1881, and a severe pogrom ensued
that devastated Jewish communities throughout the Pale of Settlement. The
new Tsar, Alexander III, enacted oppressive policies against the Jews and
denied police protection to those Jews who remained in the countryside. As a
result, a floodtide of impoverished Jews entered the cities where they
joined various movements that sought to overthrow the tsar.
http://www.halturnershow.com/IsraeliAtrocities.html
AND HERE WE COME TO REAL HISTORY - THOUGH NOT COMPLETELY FREE OF THE TWISTS
OF HATE INSERTED BY ABSOLUTE LIARS , OR SIMPLY ANOTHER LOT OF EMPLOYED
STIRRERS???OF JEWISH HISTORIANS. WHICH ONLY EMPHASISES THE MISTAKE OF
ALLOWING A SECT OR RELIGIOUS GROUP TO USE OUR DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM TO THEIR OWN
GROUPS ADVANTAGE AND AGGRANDISEMENT.
> http://judicial-inc.biz/Kristallnacht.htm
> Kristallnacht
>
> The real story
>
Some history leading up to Kristallnacht and WW 2
Amschel Rothschild finances the Bolshevik revolution
AND TO THOSE WHO THINK MNEY DOES NOT COUNT??
The three Jews Trotsky, Lenin and Stalin kill over twenty million
Russians who were opposing the Jewish swindle. Russian artists,
teachers, intellectuals, leaders are imprisoned and sent to the Gulags.
In 1933 -34 the Ukraine farmers refused to turn their land over to the
> communists and Stalin confiscated their crops and starved seven
> million to death.
>
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>Hitler blocks communism and Jews declare war on Germany
Hitler is in the way of Communism
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Infuriated Jews declared war on Germany
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Hitler stood alone and defiant against the tidal wave of Jewish
organized Communism then sweeping all before it. The Communists had
seized Russia and were at the bottom of civil unrest and revolution
throughout eastern Europe; Britain, France, - the Spanish Civil War -,
the British dominions and the United States.
Germany alone repelled and held in check this tidal wave of subversion
and insurrection.
CIRCUMSTANCES LEADING UP TO KRISTALLNACHT
Herschel Grynszpan
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A Jew assassinates a diplomat
Grynszpan was an 17 yr old unemployed Jew who was funded by LICRA (
Jewish activist group ). His father had been a tailor who had moved
from Poland to Germany. Herschel had a reputation for disliking work
and he hung out at the homes of his uncles in Brussels and Paris.
He checked into an expensive hotel just round the corner from the
offices of LICA.
On November 7 1938, Herschel Grynszpan walked into the German embassy
in Paris and shot Ernst vom Rath, a German diplomat, five times.
LICA at once hired one of the foremost barristers in Paris, and paid
his legal costs when he was arrested.
wpeF8.jpg (3083 bytes) Ernst vom Rath
Was a 31 yr old German diplomat in Paris.
Grynszpan was arrested
wpeF6.jpg (4305 bytes) Grynszpan was arrested at the scene and was
taken to a police station. Although he was a totally obscure Polish Jew
with no money and no apparent supporters, nevertheless one of France's
most famous lawyers, Moro Giafferi, appeared at the police station a
few hours after the shooting and told the police that he was
Grynszpan's attorney
Famous lawyer ( Moro Giafferi ) mysteriously appears
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Moro Giafferi turns out to be the legal counsel of the LICA which was
founded in Paris in 1933 by the Jew Bernard Lecache and operated as a
militant propaganda organization .
Another assassination
In February 1936 Giafferi represented the Jew David Frankfurter who had
shot and killed Wilhelm Gustloff, the head of the Swiss branch of the
German National Socialist Party. During the subsequent trial it was
clearly established that Frankfurter had been a hired murderer with
backed by LICRA.
Grynszpan survives the war and lives in Paris supported by LICRA
LICRA
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Grynszpan survived the war and returned to Paris where he was supported
by LICRA and was never charged.
Bernard Lecache - LICRA founder
wpe100.jpg (2347 bytes) Grynszpan family recieved a vast sum and
papers to Palestine from LICRA
WHAT REALLY HAPPENED DURING THE CRYSTAL NIGHT
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Provocateurs appear in border towns
wpeED.jpg (4105 bytes) On 8 November 1938, one day before the Crystal
Night, strange persons who had never been seen there before suddenly
appeared in several small towns in Hessen near the French-German
border. They went to mayors, Kreisleiters (district Party leaders) and
other important officials in these towns and asked them what actions
were being planned against the Jews. The officials were rather startled
by these questions and replied that they didn't know of any such plans.
The strangers acted as if they were shocked to hear this. They shouted
and complained that something had to be done against the Jews and then,
without further explanation, they disappeared.
They usually regarded the strangers as crazy anti-Semites and promptly
forgot about the incidents - until the next evening. Some of these
apparently crazy individuals really outdid themselves.
Provocateurs dress as SS
wpeEF.jpg (2292 bytes) In one case two men, dressed as members of the
SS, went to an SA Standartenfuehrer (Colonel) and ordered him to
destroy the nearby synagogue. To understand the absurdity of this one
must know that the SS and SA were completely separate organizations. A
real SS member would never have tried to give orders to an SA unit.
This case shows that the strangers were foreigners who did not even
understand the distinctions of German authority. The SA
Standartenfuehrer rejected the demands of the self-styled SS men and
reported the incident to his superiors.
Strangers giving speeches
wpeFB.jpg (5701 bytes) When the provocateurs realized that their
efforts were not working with local officials, they changed their
tactics. Instead they tried to incite directly the people in the
streets. In another town, for example, two men appeared at the market
place and began making speeches to the people there, trying to incite
them against the Jews. Eventually some people did indeed storm the
synagogue, but by then the two provocateurs had, of course,
disappeared. Similar incidents occurred in several towns.
Unidentified strangers suddenly appeared, gave speeches, started
throwing stones at windows, stormed Jewish buildings, schools,
hospitals, and synagogues, and then disappeared.
These unusual incidents had already started on the 8th of November,
that is, before Ernst vom Rath was dead. His death was only reported
late on the evening of the 9th. The fact that this strange pattern of
incidents had already begun one day earlier proves that the death of
vom Rath was not the reason for the Crystal Night outburst. Vom Rath
was still alive when the pogrom began.
These were methodical thugs and not enraged citizens
wpe102.jpg (1793 bytes) Well organized and widespread incidents began
on the evening of 9 November. Groups of generally five or six young
men, armed with bars and clubs, went down the streets smashing store
windows. They were not Jew-hating SA men, enraged over the murder of a
German diplomat. They operated too methodically to have been motivated
by anger.
They carried out their work without any apparent emotion. Nonetheless,
it was their destruction that encouraged certain other individuals from
the lowest social classes to become a mob and continue the destruction.
All one can learn from history writers is that "all" synagogues were
demolished and that "all" shop windows were destroyed. Aside from this
vague description, one is given almost no details.
JEWS FOUGHT OFF ATTACKS
History writers tell us that during the Crystal Night all the Jews were
frightened, meekly accepted whatever happened to them and watched the
destruction of their property with no resistance. The contrary is true.
While going through the files on this subject, I found many documents
which report precisely just the opposite of what is claimed. The fact
is that in many cases Jews and their German neighbors fought together
against the attackers, pushing them down staircases. Street mobs were
beaten up and chased away in more than one case.
Police on side of Jews
SA officers stood watch preventing attacks
Police and Party officials were generally on the side of the Jews. Some
Jewish community leaders went to police stations the next morning and
asked the police to investigate the damage done to their synagogues.
The resulting police reports are still available in the files today.
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Jews weren't phased by attacks
wpeF7.jpg (5870 bytes) Also contrary to what we have been told, most
Jews were not directly affected by these events. In Berlin, for
example, all of the teachers and pupils of the city's largest Jewish
school, which served the entire Berlin area, appeared in their classes
the next morning without having noticed anything unusual during the
previous night.
Heinemann Stern, the Jewish principal of that school, wrote in his
postwar memoirs that he noticed a burning synagogue on his way to the
school on the morning after the Crystal Night, but he thought it was
just an accidental fire.
It was only after he arrived at the school that he received a telephone
call informing him of the destruction of the previous night. He then
went on with his classes of the day and only during the first recess
did he take the trouble to inform the entire student body about what
had happened.
Jewish historians rewrote history
Historians wrote: "Every single Jew was beaten, chased, robbed,
insulted and humiliated. The SA tore the Jews from their beds,
mercilessly beat them in their apartments and then ... chased them
almost to death ... Blood flowed everywhere."
[9] Is it conceivable that thousands of Jewish children would be have
been sent to school by their parents on the morning after that fateful
night if the attacks against Jews had been so horrific or extensive?
Would any parents have let their children go to school if they had
thought there was even the slightest danger of them being attacked by
roving gangs of SA men? I think the answer is clearly no!
Who Could the Provocateurs Have Been?
In the wake of the Crystal Night, almost everyone wanted to know who
the culprits were. Dr. Goebbels expressed his suspicion that a secret
organization must have instigated the entire affair. He simply could
not believe that anything so well organized could have been a
spontaneous popular outburst.
Apparently to avoid internal wrangling and the harm that this would do
to their public image, an investigation to determine the instigators
never took place. Hitler believed that Dr. Goebbels, his closest
confidant and the one man he could never abandon, had been the
instigator.
The only persons actually punished were individual SA men who had
participated directly in the pogrom and been accused in German courts
of murder, assault, looting or other criminal acts by Jewish or German
witnesses to these crimes. But before any of these cases ever actually
came to trail, Hitler issued a special decree ordering the postponement
of all such cases until after the accused individuals were first
prosecuted by the Supreme Party Court, an internal court concerned with
discipline within the National Socialist Party organization.
Mystery phone calls to local town officials
wpe103.jpg (1679 bytes) Several district and local Party leaders
(Kreisleiters and Ortsgruppenleiters) were awakened from their sleep in
the middle of the night by telephone calls. Someone claiming to be from
the regional Party headquarters or the regional Party propaganda bureau
(Gauleitung or Gaupropagandaleitung) would ask what was happening in
the official's town or city. If the Party official answered "Nothing,
everything is quiet," the telephone caller would then say in German
slang that he had received an order to the effect that the Jews were
going to get it tonight and that the respective official should carry
out the order.
In most cases the Party leader, disturbed from his sleep, did not even
understand what had happened. Some simply dismissed the call as a joke
and went back to bed.
Others called back the office from where the telephone voice had
pretended to be calling. If they managed to reach someone in charge,
they were often told that nobody knew anything about such a call. But
if they reached only a lower official they were often told: "Well, if
you got that order, you'd better go ahead and do what you were told."
These telephone calls caused considerable confusion. All this came out
months later during the trials conducted by the Supreme Party Court.
The Chief Judge concluded that in every case a misunderstanding had
arisen in one link or other of the chain of command. But when they were
confronted with apparently genuine orders to organize demonstrations
against the Jews that night, most of the Party leaders had simply not
known what to do.
Obviously a group of centrally organized thugs
The pattern of seemingly sporadic anti-Jewish incidents in small towns,
followed only later by a carefully planned outburst in many large
cities throughout Germany, clearly suggests the work of a centrally
organized group of well-trained agents. Even shortly after the Crystal
Night, many leading Party officials suspected that the entire affair
had been centrally coordinated. Significantly, even Hermann Graml, the
only West German historian who has written in detail about the Crystal
Night, carefully distinguished between provocateurs and people who were
simply carried away by their emotions and spontaneously took part in
the riot and destruction.
The timing was perfect
Most party officials were at a commemoration at the Alte Rathaus in
Munich
wpeF5.jpg (5381 bytes)
Munich on the Ninth of November
While all this was happening across the Reich, a special annual
commemoration was being held in Munich. Fifteen years earlier, on 9
November 1923, a movement led by Adolph Hitler, Erich von Ludendorff (a
leading First World War General), and two major figures in the Bavarian
government tried to depose the legal government and take responsibility
themselves as a new national government. wpeF6.jpg (2743 bytes)
Feldherrnhalle
wpeF1.jpg (8854 bytes) The uprising or putsch was put down and 16
rebels were shot down next to the Feldherrnhalle, a famous old monument
building in central Munich. Accordingly, the 9th of November had been
commemorated every year since 1933 as the memorial day for the martyred
heroes of the National Socialist movement. Adolph Hitler and the Party
veterans, as well as all of the Gauleiters (regional Party leaders) met
every year in Munich for the occasion. Hitler would usually deliver a
speech to a select audience of Party veterans at the famous
Buergerbraeukeller restaurant on the evening of the 8th.
Hitler and veterans reenact
On the morning of the 9th Hitler and his veteran comrades would reenact
the 1923 "March to the Feldherrnhalle."
wpeF7.jpg (3902 bytes)
wpeF0.jpg (3689 bytes) SS ceremony
On the evening of the 9th the Fuehrer always held an informal dinner at
the Old Town Hall ("Alte Rathaus") with old comrades as well as all the
Gauleiters. At midnight young men who were about to enter the SS and
the SA were sworn in at the Feldherrnhalle.
All of the Gauleiters and other guests participated in this very solemn
ceremony. After it was over they left Munich and returned to their
homes throughout the Reich.
Gaulieters not at posts
It is clear that the 9th of November date was chosen very cleverly. The
annual commemoration ceremony of that day insured that almost all of
the Gauleiters would be away from their home offices when the
anti-Jewish demonstrations began. In other words, the actual
decision-making responsibilities that were normally carried out by the
Gauleiters were temporarily in the hands of lower-ranking individuals
with less experience.
Between 8 and 10 November, subordinate officials stood in for the
Gauleiters who were either in Munich or en route to or from the annual
commemoration there. This temporary transfer of decision-making
authority is very important because it contributed to much of the
subsequent confusion and thus helped the provocateurs. Another
contributing factor was the fact that no one expected any trouble. At
that time Germany was one of the most peaceful countries in the world.
There was no reason to expect any kind of unrest. It was only during
dinner at the Old Town Hall that the first sporadic reports of riot and
destruction reached Munich from some of the Gauleiter's home offices.
At the same time it was learned that Ernst vom Rath had died in Paris
from his wounds.
What Was Goebbels Doing?
wpeF2.jpg (2300 bytes) After the dinner was over, the Fuehrer left at
about 9 p.m. and returned to his apartment. Dr. Goebbels then stood up
and spoke briefly about the latest news. He informed the audience that
vom Rath had died and that, as a result, anti-Jewish demonstrations had
spontaneously broken out in two or three places. Goebbels was renowned
for his passionate and inspiring speeches. But what he gave that
evening was not a speech at all but only a short and very informal
announcement.
He suggested that the Gauleiters and the head of the SA, Viktor Lutze,
should contact their home offices to make sure that peace and order
were being maintained.
>
You may have heard the widespread allegation that Goebbels started the
Crystal Night pogrom with a fiery speech on that evening of 9 November.
This widely accepted story is false. The following facts will clarify
this point:
As Gauleiter for Berlin, Dr. Goebbels had no authority outside of his
Berlin district. Although he was also the Propaganda Minister of the
German government, this did not give him any authority over Party
officials. Furthermore, he had no authority whatsoever over the SA or
the SS.
Goebbels understood this damaged the Reich international standing
Of all the National Socialist leaders, Dr. Goebbels would have
understood better than anyone else the immense damage that an
anti-Jewish pogrom would cause for Germany. On the morning of 10
November, when he first learned about the extent of the damage and
destruction of the previous night, he was furious and shocked at the
stupidity of those who had participated.
How could a speech given after 9 p.m. on the evening of 9 November have
possibly incited a "pogrom" which had already begun the day before when
the first provocateurs appeared at municipal and Party offices to
persuade officials to take action against the Jews?
Gauleiters telephoned subordinates to maintain peace
The Gauleiters and the SA commander went to the telephones and called
their respective home offices to order their subordinates to do
everything necessary to maintain peace and order. They emphasized that
under no circumstances must anyone take part in any demonstrations.
These telephone instructions were written down at the home offices by
whoever was on duty. The orders from each Gauleiter were then passed on
by telex to other offices within the Gau or district. These telex
messages are still in various records files and are available to anyone
who wishes to examine them.
Orders to Stop the Pogrom
wpeF5.jpg (3954 bytes) While the Gauleiters were calling their home
offices, the head of the SA, Viktor Lutze, ordered all of his immediate
subordinates, the SA Gruppenfuehrers, who were together with him in
Munich, to call their home offices as well. Lutze ordered that under no
circumstances could SA men take part in any demonstrations against
Jews, and that furthermore the SA was to intervene to stop any
demonstrations already in progress.
SA, Viktor Lutze gives orders to protect Jews
As a result of these strict orders, SA men began to guard Jewish stores
that very night wherever windows had been broken. There is no doubt
about this order by Lutze because we have the postwar court testimony
of several witnesses confirming it. The SS and the police were given
similar orders to restore peace and order.
wpeFB.jpg (2954 bytes)
Heydrich orders SS to protect Jews
wpeFC.jpg (1558 bytes) Himmler ordered Reinhard Heydrich to prevent
all destruction of property and to protect Jews against demonstrators.
The telex communication of this order still exists. It is in the files
of the International Military Tribunal in Nuremberg.
However, during the Nuremberg trial this telex order was presented in
three different forms, with forged amendments to change the original
meaning.
In my book Feuerzeichen I undertook to restore the original text.
wpeED.jpg (6116 bytes)
Hitler was furious
wpeFE.jpg (2489 bytes) Adolf Hitler joined the midnight celebration at
the Feldherrnhalle. It was only after he returned to his apartment
about one o'clock in the morning that he learned about the
demonstrations which had been taking place in Munich, during which one
synagogue had been set on fire. He was furious and immediately ordered
the police chief of Munich to come see him. Hitler told him to
immediately stop the fire and to make sure that no other outrages took
place in Munich. He then called various police and Party officials
throughout the Reich to learn the extent of these demonstrations
Finally, he ordered a telex message sent to all Gauleiter offices. It
read: "By express order from the very highest authority, arson against
Jewish businesses or other property must in no case and under no
circumstances take place." Synagogues were not specifically mentioned,
apparently because Hitler was still unaware of the burning of
synagogues, apart from the one in Munich.
How Did the SA Get Involved Despite the Orders From Its Own Leaders?
According to the records, at least three of the 28 SA Groups did not
obey the orders of SA chief Lutze. Instead, they sent out their men to
destroy synagogues and Jewish buildings. In effect they did precisely
the opposite of what Lutze had ordered. What actually happened is clear
from the testimony and evidence presented at postwar trials against
former SA men accused of participating in the riot.
Provocateurs sent messages to SA Brigade
wpeED.jpg (2921 bytes) The trials, held between 1946 and 1952, were
based to a large extent on the report of SA Brigade 50 chief Karl Lucke
and begins with these words: "On 10 November 1938, at 3 o'clock in the
morning, I received the following order: 'By order of the
Gruppenfuehrer, all Jewish synagogues within the Brigade district are
to be immediately blown up or set on fire'." Lucke then included in his
report a listing of synagogues which had been destroyed by members of
his Brigade.
This report has been cited by the prosecution at the Nuremberg Tribunal
and by practically all of the consensus historians ever since as proof
that the SA was given orders to destroy Jewish stores and synagogues.
Lutze ordered the Group leaders to contact their home offices to stop
all anti-Jewish demonstrations, Fust, along with the other SA leaders,
did just that. He called his office in Mannheim and passed on the
orders he had received from Lutze. The man who was on duty that night
at the Mannheim SA office telephone and who received Fust's order
confirmed that he understood it and then hung up. But he never passed
on the order he had received. Instead, he transmitted precisely the
opposite order.
Fritsch gets bogus orders
wpeF0.jpg (1550 bytes) The normal procedure would have been for the
man on duty at the telephone to immediately call the deputy group
leader, Lucke, who was in nearby Darmstadt. But instead he called SA
Oberfuehrer (senior colonel) Fritsch and asked him to come to the
office. Fritsch had a reputation for not being particularly clever.
When he arrived, the man who had received the telephone call showed him
a small paper slip with a few notes on it which said that the
synagogues within the Mannheim SA Group district were to be destroyed.
The man who had received the call explained to Fritsch that the order
had just arrived from Munich. Slow-minded as he was, Fritsch did not
know what to do and called the local Kreisleiter (district Party
leader) and his deputy. These two men then arrived at the SA office and
discussed the situation, while at the same time the telephone duty man
notified other SA leaders, but still not the deputy Group leader Lucke.
In the meantime the small paper slip disappeared and the SA men now
arriving at the headquarters met only the Kreisleiter, who told them
about the order which he thought had come from Munich. No one asked for
any further confirmation. The SA men then left to begin the
destruction. Hours later, when the whole action was almost finished,
the telephone guard finally called Deputy Group Leader Lucke and passed
on the false order. He also informed Lucke that the action had already
been going on for several hours. Since it was almost all over by this
time, Lucke also neglected to ask for confirmation of the order. It was
already 3 o'clock in the morning. Lucke then alerted the
Standartenfuehrer of his Brigade and carried out the destruction within
the Darmstadt district.
Mysterious telephone call
At 8 o'clock the next morning Lucke sat down and wrote the report which
was later cited at the Nuremberg Tribunal. In fact, as already shown,
there was no order to commit arson or carry out destruction against any
Jewish property from the Gruppenfuehrer in Munich, but only from the
telephone guard. Who he was remains a mystery. During the postwar
trials against members of this SA unit, none of the judges asked for
the name or identity of this telephone guard. This mysterious man was
very probably an agent for those who were actually behind the entire
Crystal Night Affair.
The Fine Imposed on the Jews
wpeA9.jpg (11601 bytes) German government and Party officials were
furious about what had happened. Hermann Goering, who was responsible
for Germany's economy, complained that it would be impossible to
replace the special plate glass of the broken store windows because it
was not manufactured in Germany. It had to be imported from Belgium and
would cost a great deal of precious foreign currency.
Reason for fine
wpeF8.jpg (3662 bytes) Because of the Jewish boycott against German
goods, the Reich was short of foreign exchange currency. Goering
therefore decided that because this shortage was caused by the Jews, it
was they who would have to pay for the broken glass. He imposed a fine
of one billion Reichsmarks on the German Jews.
It was certainly unjust to force Jews to pay for damage which they had
not caused. Goering understood this. However, in private he justified
the fine by citing the fact that the 1933 Jewish declaration of war
against Germany was proclaimed in the name of the millions of Jews
throughout the world.
Therefore they could now help their co-religionists in Germany bear the
consequences of the boycott. It should also be pointed out that only
German Jews with assets of more than 5,000 Reichsmarks in cash had to
contribute to the fine. In 1938, when prices were very low, 5,000
Reichsmarks was a small fortune.
The Reich confiscated all insurance payments that were to have been
paid to Jews whose businesses and homes were looted or destroyed and
the Jewish owners were made personally responsible for the cost of all
repairs.
'Crystal Night' 1938: The great Anti-German spectacle
Ingrid Weckert
* Paper Presented to the Sixth International Revisionist
Conference.
For example, Mr. Ivan Lagace, manager of a large crematory in Calgary,
Canada, testified in court in April 1988 that the Auschwitz cremation story
is technically impossible. The allegation that 10,000 or even 20,000
corpses were burned every day at Auschwitz in the summer of 1944 in
crematories and open pits is simply "preposterous" and "beyond the realm of
reality," he declared under oath. [19]
GASSING EXPERT REFUTES EXTERMINATION STORY
America's leading gas chamber expert, Fred A. Leuchter, carefully examined
the supposed "gas chambers" in Poland and concluded that the Auschwitz
gassing story is absurd and technically impossible.
Leuchter is the foremost specialist on the design and installation of gas
chambers used in the United States to execute convicted criminals. For
example, he designed a gas chamber facility for the Missouri state
penitentiary.
In February 1988 he carried out a detailed onsite examination of the "gas
chambers" at Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek in Poland, which are either
still standing or only partially in ruins. In sworn testimony to a Toronto
court and in a technical report, Leuchter described every aspect of his
investigation.
He concluded by emphatically declaring that the alleged gassing facilities
could not possibly have been used to kill people. Among other things, he
pointed out that the so-called "gas chambers" were not properly sealed or
vented to kill human beings without also killing German camp personnel.
[20]
Dr. William B. Lindsey, a research chemist employed for 33 years by the
Dupont Corporation, likewise testified in a 1985 court case that the
Auschwitz gassing story is technically impossible. Based on a careful
on-site examination of the "gas chambers" at Auschwitz, Birkenau and
Majdanek, and on his years of experience, he declared: "I have come to the
conclusion that no one was willfully or purposefully killed with Zyklon B
[hydrocyanic acid gas] in this manner. I consider it absolutely
impossible." [21]
http://www.solargeneral.com/library/www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.html
"ElParedon" <ser...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:zXiqj.19637$1f....@bignews9.bellsouth.net...
> THIS IS NOT A JEWISH MIRACLE, THIS IS JEWISH BULLSHIT!
>
> "Heinrich" <Hein...@Ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in message
> news:60tkd5F...@mid.individual.net...
> >I ask you to reread the heading of this article. A thing which is
> >impossible to you and me is in fact possible for a Jew - they can be
> >deported to a death camp before they are born. They can even be born by
> >parent who perished in Auschwitz 14 years after the parents perished.
> >Don't
> >you believe me?? Read this article and you will see that everything is
> >possible to a Jew.
> >
> > The Jew Michel Friedman, second in command of "The Council of Jews in
> > Germany" has taken the word lying to a new level. Michel Friedman has
> > even
> > surpassed great Jewish fairytale tellers like Elie Wiesel, Moshe Peer
> > and
> > Benjamin Wilkomirski alias Bruno Grosjean. To bring your memory up to
> > date
> > I will repeat one sentence from Wiesel: "Some events do take place but
> > are
> > not true: others are - although they never occurred". (Schocken Nooks,
> > New
> > York 1982, S. VIII, Introduction.) Moshe Peer wrote in his book
> > "Unforgettable Belsen" that "he had been gassed six times until he
> > survived, for Belsen had no gas chambers". Benjamin Wilkomirsky whose
> > memory "Fragments" are published in 12 languages and million of copies,
> > survived the horrors of Nazi concentration camps like Maidanek,
> > Treblinka
> > and Auschwitz undisturbed without any great discomfort and agitation in
> > peaceful Swiss mountains.
> >
> > Remember also that Elie Wiesel was in Auschwitz-Birkenau between 1943
> > and
> > January 1944 without seeing one gas chamber, but he saw many burning
> > pits.
> > And that was in Birkenau where the subsoil water stands so high that it
> > pours out when you stick a spade in the ground. Just read Wiesel's book
> > "The Night", Bantam Books, 1986, and you will learn - not about the
> > subsoil water, but about burning pits and no gas chambers.
> >
> > Friedman has brought holocaust wonders to a new dimension - a dimension
> > way about what we have heard earlier. Friedman has become a new
> > holocaust
> > narrator - he might as years go by be the greatest holocaust narrator
> > born
> > in this century.
> >
> > I wanted to tell you about the fabulous Michel Friedman - a man who
> > claims
> > he was taken by German police for deportation in 1942. (Read the German
> > newspaper Die Welt from June 1, 2002 page 2) Michel Friedman was born on
> > February 25, 1956 in Paris. (Friedman said he was deported in 1942 to
> > 148
> > graduates of a Police Academy on May 31, 2002.)
> >
> > When talking about Friedman one must know that his parents according to
> > himself perished in Auschwitz. So you see Friedman is a wonder in many
> > ways:
> >
> > - deported in 1942
> >
> > - created by parents who perished in Auschwitz
> >
> > - born in Paris, France 14 years after he was deported to Auschwitz.
> >
> > I have consulted a friend of mine, medical doctor, regarding this
> > question: a person was created by parents who perished 14 years before
> > the
> > person's birth. My friend has failed to give me an answer if it is
> > possible. He claimed I was pulling his leg. As I told my friend about
> > Friedman he was speechless. I stress you to ask any medical doctor if a
> > person first can be deported the created by parents who perish for then
> > to
> > be born 14 years after creation. If you find a medical doctor who can
> > explain the wonder I will publish it for all to read.
> >
> > Holocaust wonders have happened to Jews long before WW2, they have even
> > written about it in their holy book the Bible. I give you here a short
> > version of a wonder which have catch my attention, this is a short
> > version: "Three Jews, Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego were tied up and
> > thrown into the blazing furnace which had been heated seven times hotter
> > than usual. But the fire had not harmed their bodies, not was a hair of
> > their heads signed; their robes were not scorched, and there was no
> > smell
> > of fire on them." For those who want to read the whole story turn to
> > Daniel 3, 19- 30: here you can read about three Jewish victims of King
> > Nebuchadnezzar a wicked anti-Semite. . Let me quote verse 30 for you: At
> > that time the king himself caused Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego to
> > prosper in the jurisdictional district of Babylon.
> >
> > Now you probably understand why so many Jews survived the holocaust -
> > they
> > were blessed as Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego. Over the years we have
> > heard of many Jews who survived the holocaust. But we have never heard
> > of
> > anyone who was deported to the holocaust camps 14 years before he was
> > born
> > to parent that perished in the holocaust. By studying the Bible we can
> > understand how such miracles can happen.
> >
> > Regarding prosper of Jews after being thrown into ovens - we have heard
> > of
> > that also, but that happened long after King Nebuchadnezzar. In the
> > early
> > 1950's World Jewish Congress persuade Kanzler Adenauer of Germany to pay
> > reparation to Jews for their suffering during the holocaust. After that
> > year all Jews of the world have prospered. A miracle how the Jews
> > prosper - and how they can make money on their dead kindred.
> >
> > After WW2 the world have heard of many Shadrachs Meshachsand Abednegos -
> > all Jews and all have survived the holocaust.
> >
> > Jews have spread their fairytales about survival of death camps during
> > WW2
> > in many versions - they always forgot to tell us about the Biblical
> > background of their fairytales, they forgot to mention Shadrach, Meshach
> > and Abednego of Daniel 3; 19-30. I have told you of the Shadrach,
> > Meshach
> > and Abednego of Daniel - please go tell about them to your friends. Tell
> > also about Michel Friedman - a true Jewish miracle.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
# Gee, you're really foaming at the mouth with fascist zeal, aren't you?
So, Jews are vermin who must be eliminated? Start up the gas chambers
again, as Hitler didn't finish the job?
Some Russians, Ukrainians, initially welcomed German troops as
liberators, but soon found out differently, as the Master Race went about
clearing Slavs out of the way - Jews, communists, gypsies, it didn't
matter - for Lebensraum.
As a result, the Soviets so hated the "grey lice" they didn't need urging
to drive them back into the Fatherland.
The West opened the long-delayed Second Front, and hastened to Berlin -
but the Russians got there first.
None of which excuses the crimes of Stalin, and ideological dictatorship
of those days. But Hitler was a thug off the streets, and seething with
hatred, for the unilateral Treaty of Versailles, among other things. As a
Catholic he was already anti-Semitic.
Hitler and the Nazis got the backing of the Industrialists, who preferred
him to the Communists.
True, modern-day Israel seems to have learnt its lesson from Hitler, and
Zionists know God tends to be on the side of the Big Battalions. But they
forget Hitler's ultimate fate. Those who live by war and hate, die that
way.
WELL IF YOU GET RICH ENOUGH AND POWERFUL ENOUGH, IF ALL YOU BELIEVE IS THAT
YOU ARE SUPERIOR AND HAVE TO EXPLAIN AND GUIDE THESE CHILDREN SURROUNDING
YOU???
SO YOU LOOK TO THEM THE SAME AS TRIBAL BARBARIANS AS WE WERE TAUGHT,
PROBABLY BY THEM, TO THINK OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLES?
Jews in Eastern Europe understood the people around them as,
categorically, persecutors. And "the Jews saw their persecutors as an
inferior race," noted World Zionist Organization President Nahum
Goldmann, "Most of my [physician] grandfather's patients [in Lithuania]
were peasants. Every Jew felt ten or a hundred times the superior of
these lowly tillers of the soil; he was cultured, learned Hebrew, knew
the Bible, studied the Talmud -- in other words he knew that he stood
head and shoulders above these illiterates." [GOLDMANN, 1978, p. 13]
jewwatch
But it's not right to call it a Russian mafia, it's a Jewish mafia."
http://www.adl.org/special_reports/duke_own_words/on_jews.asp
Listed sources Jewish Mafia
http://www.theunjustmedia.com/jew%20organized%20crime.htm
http://www.rense.com
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/Iraq_israel.htm
http://www.washington-report.org
http://www.aljazeerah.info
http://usslibertyinquiry.com/evidence/logs/logs/.html
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How MEMRI doctored Finkelstein's interview to portray him as a
Holocaust denier
About half the text is highlighted, showing what MEMRI excised. I have
not reproduced that. You can find it highlighted in yellow on the
Finkelstein web site.
Finkelstein (at 23 min 41sec of full interview video):
"I think it's important to separate the two issues. Number 1, there is
the issue of the truth of the Nazi holocaust. In my opinion, rational
people will not debate whether the Nazi holocaust happened. Of course
the Nazi holocaust happened. It was a colossal crime that was
committed against Jews, against Gypsies, against the handicapped,
against many peoples. Among those people were the crimes committed,
colossal crimes, against the Jews. Roughly speaking, you can say
between 5 and 5 1/2 million Jews were exterminated during World War 2
[The Destruction of the European Jews, Yale Univ. Press, 2003,
c1961)]. That's the factual question and rational people, reasonable
people, will not debate the factual question. But then there is a
second question, the political question, namely, the use to which the
Nazi holocaust has been put. Is the Nazi holocaust being used as a way
of enlightening people about human suffering and about crimes
committed against innocent people? Or is the Nazi holocaust being used
to confuse people and to deny crimes which are being committed now by
Jews? That's a political question and we shouldn't confuse the two.
There are many people unfortunately who, because Israel has misused
the Nazi holocaust, exploited the Nazi holocaust, they have decided to
deny the Nazi holocaust ever happened. Now, to me, that's foolish. You
can't deny facts. It happened. It was horrific. What you should do, in
my opinion, is to expose the wrong purposes, the evil purposes to
which these facts are being put. That's a separate question."
How MEMRI presents itself
[From the MEMRI website:]
The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) explores the Middle
East through the region's media. MEMRI bridges the language gap which
exists between the West and the Middle East, providing timely
translations of Arabic, Persian, and Turkish media, as well as
original analysis of political, ideological, intellectual, social,
cultural, and religious trends in the Middle East. Founded in February
1998 to inform the debate over U.S. policy in the Middle East, MEMRI
is an independent, nonpartisan, nonprofit, 501 (c)3 organization.
The truth about MEMRI
MEMRI is a main arm of Israeli propaganda. Although widely used in the
mainstream media as a source of information on the Arab world, it is
as trustworthy as Julius Streicher's Der Sturmer was on the Jewish
world.
The evidence
MEMRI recently posted what it alleged was an interview I did with
Lebanese television on the Nazi holocaust. The MEMRI posting was
designed to prove that I was a Holocaust denier. Below I juxtapose the
MEMRI version of my interview (both the actual broadcast version as
well as the transcript it prepared) against what I actually said in
the interview.
Footnotes
1. Streicher was sentenced to death at Nuremberg.
2. "When the true history of this era is written...the dispatches of
MEMRI will be copiously represented in every true scholar's footnotes"
- Martin Peretz, Editor and Publisher, The New Republic. (Another of
Peretz's notable predictions back in 1984 was that Joan Peters's From
Time Immemorial "will change the mind of our generation. If
understood, it could affect the history of the future.")
MEMRI's press release
The press release text: Lebanon's New TV: 'Contradictions, Lies, and
Exaggerations' in Number Killed in 'Jewish Holocaust'
MEMRI's version of the video:
MEMRI Clip # 1180(Windows Media) | YouTube.com (Flash video)
FULL VERSION of Finkelstein's 06.21.2006 NEW TV interview:
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Transcript: Finkelstein's NEW TV Interview, 06.21.2006
NOTE: Highlighted text indicates parts edited out by MEMRI with
ellipses.
RUSH transcript
Questioner: [Arabic, translation coming soon] [translation pause]
Finkelstein: Thank you for having me.
Questioner: [Arabic, translation coming soon] [translation pause]
Finkelstein: The main reason I wrote the book is because I thought
that the Nazi holocaust was being exploited by Israel and its
supporters in the United States against the Palestinians and against
basic principles of justice. That is, the Nazi holocaust is being used
as a political weapon in order to silence criticism of Israeli
policies in the Occupied Territories. There were also other reasons
for writing the book. Obviously, there was a personal reason, namely
my parents passed through the Nazi holocaust. Every member of their
families was exterminated during the war and I felt it was important
to accurately represent what happened to them during the Nazi
holocaust. As for my credibility, I think that one should apply to
everybody a single standard, namely evaluate the evidence, evaluate
the argument. If the evidence is valid, if the argument seems
reasonable, then your credibility is good. If the evidence seems weak,
if the argument seems unreasonable, then your credibility is bad. I
don't think it has much to do with whether or not you're a Jew.
Questioner: [Arabic, translation coming soon] [translation pause]
Finkelstein: My book is not really about the Nazi holocaust. There are
very excellent historians who have done very excellent research on the
subject. My book is mostly about the misuse or exploitation of the
Nazi holocaust for political purposes. The main claims I make in the
book are, first of all, that the notion of Holocaust uniqueness - that
is, no group of people in the history of humankind has suffered the
way Jews have suffered - has no basis in historical fact and is an
immoral doctrine because it ranks human suffering, saying some
suffering is better and some suffering is worse. The main purpose of
this claim of Holocaust uniqueness is to immunize, to protect, Israel
from criticism. The doctrine says: Because Jews have suffered
uniquely, Israel should not be held to the same moral and legal
standards as other peoples. The other point I examine in the book is
the claim that "the whole world wanted to kill the Jews" and that's
why the Nazi holocaust happened. The main argument I make in the book
is that there's no evidence that the whole world wanted to kill the
Jews. A very excellent formulation statement was that by the British
historian Ian Kershaw. Kershaw wrote in one of his books, "the road to
Auschwitz" - the Nazi concentration and death camp - "was built on
hate but paved with indifference." I think that's the important
lesson. There were a handful of fanatics who were driven by hate but
it was the indifference of most of the world that enabled the fanatics
to get their way.
00:06:00
Questioner: [Arabic, translation coming soon] [translation pause]
Finkelstein: Yes, that's the quote I began my book with. [translation
pause]
Questioner: [Arabic, translation coming soon] [translation pause]
Finkelstein: Well, one of the points I make in the book is that there
has been a gross inflation of the number of survivors. In fact, as all
serious historians have shown, Hitler's extermination of the Jews was
very efficient, it was like a factory, an assembly line: Jews were
processed to be murdered. When you have such an efficient system there
can't be very many survivors. In fact, the best estimates show that by
May, 1945, that is, at the end of World War II, about 100,000 Jews had
survived the concentration camps, the ghettos and the labor camps. If
100,000 Jews survived the camps and ghettos in 1945, then 60 years
later, roughly around now, there can't be more than a few thousand
survivors still alive. But the Holocaust industry wanted to blackmail
Europe in order to get compensation monies. And in order to blackmail
Europe, they said there were hundreds of thousands, even over a
million, needy Holocaust victims who were still alive. They inflated
the number of survivors in order to blackmail Europe. But by inflating
the number of survivors, they ended up diminishing the number of
victims. They are the real Holocaust deniers.
Questioner: [Arabic, translation coming soon] [translation pause]
Finkelstein: I think there is a lot of misunderstanding on that topic.
>From the founding of Israel after World War II until June 1967
American Jews had very little interest in Israel. This was because
American Jews wanted to succeed in American life. They were afraid
that they would be charged with being loyal to another State, that is,
the Jewish state of Israel. And so, they kept their distance from
Israel because their interest was to succeed in America. After June
1967, when Israel became America's strategic outpost in the Middle
East, it was only then, when it was safe and even beneficial to be pro-
Israel, that American Jews became pro-Israel. It is incorrect to
believe that American Jews were pro-Israel before they were pro-
American. The first loyalty of American Jews has been to the state
where they enjoy their power and their privilege, that is, the United
States. Israel only came later when it was safe and profitable to be
pro-Israel.
Questioner: [Arabic, translation coming soon] [translation pause]
Finkelstein: You must remember that the United States' main ally after
World War II, its main ally in Europe was, Germany, West Germany, the
Federal Republic of Germany. And many leaders of the Federal Republic
of Germany and many members of the German elite had been members of
the Nazi elites. And so you were not allowed to mention the Nazi
holocaust because that was seen as undermining, as jeopardizing, the
US-German relationship because it was reminding people of what these
very same Germans had done just a few years earlier. So all talk of
the Nazi holocaust was a taboo in American life. You weren't allowed
to talk about it. For example, when I was growing up in the 1950s and
the 1960s I used to hang out with a very smart crowd of people. I
wasn't as smart as them, but I liked to be around smart people. People
who are prominent professors, prominent in the professions, in
medicine and law. Now, my friends and I, we talked politics, we talked
history but I can tell you for certain that none of them ever asked me
any questions about my parents. Even though both of them were
survivors of the Nazi holocaust. No one back then was interested in
the topic.
00:14:40
Questioner: [Arabic, translation coming soon] [translation pause]
Finkelstein: No I do not. I do not believe that the Nazi holocaust is
unique and I do not believe that the suffering of Jews is unique. I
think there's no basis in the historical argument for the uniqueness
of the Nazi holocaust. There are aspects, features of the Nazi
holocaust, that are unique, just as there are aspects and features of
other genocides that are unique but that does not mean the Nazi
holocaust belongs in a separate category, apart from all the other
sufferings in the history of human kind. I do not agree with that. On
a moral level it's simply an abomination to rank suffering and say
"one people has suffered more than another." How can you say it's more
painful to die in a gas chamber than it is to die when your flesh is
incinerated by napalm? Who is to decide which is a more painful
suffering? That I think is absurd. The claim of unique suffering was
used by Jews...
00:17:20
Questioner: [Arabic, translation coming soon] [translation pause]
Finkelstein: Yes, I think there is something wrong when the United
States has a museum devoted to what Germany did to the Jews but it
does not have any museum devoted to what America did to its native
population, the expulsion and extermination of the Native Americans.
It does not have a museum devoted to what was done to Africans brought
over here as slaves, yet it has a museum about what happened in
Europe. What would Americans think if Germany, in its capital, were to
create a museum commemorating slavery in the United States,
commemorating the extermination of Native Americans but had no museum
devoted to the Nazi holocaust. Of course, Americans would say "that's
pure hypocrisy." Well, we are now guilty of the same hypocrisy.
00:19:00
Questioner: [Arabic, translation coming soon] [translation pause]
Finkelstein: What I said was, quoting from an Israeli newspaper, that
whenever Israel commits atrocities it is able to mobilize all of its
supporters in the United States, including the Holocaust Museum and
including all of the organizations which are devoted to the Holocaust,
it is able to mobilize all of these organizations in order to silence
criticism of Israeli atrocities, and that's what happened after the
Qana massacre [in 1996 - ed.], and that's what always happens. I can
give you an example from this past week. There is a very big church
called the Presbyterians and two years ago the Presbyterians passed a
resolution which said it would not invest in companies that profit
from Israel's occupation of the West Bank and Gaza. The Jewish
organizations got very angry. They started to say -- this Presbyterian
resolution is just like the Holocaust, the Nazis boycotted Jewish
businesses and now the Presbyterian Church is boycotting Israel
economically. And this past week the Presbyterians were meeting again
in Burmingham, Alabama to discuss whether to take back the resolution.
I attended the convention to urge the Presbyterians to stay with the
resolution. Do not take it back. But then all of these Rabbis and
Jewish organizations, they came to the convention, and they talked on
and on, that this resolution is the Holocaust all over again, it's
another attack on the Jews, just like Hitler, and that's how they use
the Nazi holocaust as a weapon. Just like they did after the Qana
massacre. That's how they use it as a weapon to silence criticism of
Israel's immoral and illegal policies against the Palestinians and the
Lebanese people.
00:23:00
Questioner: [Arabic, translation coming soon] [translation pause]
Finkelstein: I think it's important to separate the two issues. Number
1, there is the issue of the truth of the Nazi holocaust. In my
opinion, rational people will not debate whether the Nazi holocaust
happened. Of course the Nazi holocaust happened. It was a colossal
crime that was committed against Jews, against Gypsies, against the
handicapped, against many peoples. Among those people were the crimes
committed, colossal crimes, against the Jews. Roughly speaking, you
can say between 5 and 5 1/2 million Jews were exterminated during
World War 2. That's the factual question and rational people,
reasonable people, will not debate the factual question. But then
there is a second question, the political question, namely, the use to
which the Nazi holocaust has been put. Is the Nazi holocaust being
used as a way of enlightening people about human suffering and about
crimes committed against innocent people? Or is the Nazi holocaust
being used to confuse people and to deny crimes which are being
committed now by Jews? That's a political question and we shouldn't
confuse the two. There are many people unfortunately who, because
Israel has misused the Nazi holocaust, exploited the Nazi holocaust,
they have decided to deny the Nazi holocaust ever happened. Now, to
me, that's foolish. You can't deny facts. It happened. It was
horrific. What you should do, in my opinion, is to expose the wrong
purposes, the evil purposes to which these facts are being put. That's
a separate question.
00:27:40
Questioner: [Arabic, translation coming soon] [translation pause]
Finkelstein: There is no evidence at all that Swiss banks ever kept
billions of dollars that belonged to Jews during World War II or
before World War II. The basic facts are these. Number 1, most Jews
before World War II were very, very poor. They lived in little
villages in Eastern Europe. The villages were called shtetls. Most
Jews were poor. Number 2, beginning in the early 1930s there was a
worldwide depression, which means, even if you had money, you lost it
during the depression. Number 3, if you had the money and you kept it,
then you managed to escape during the Nazi holocaust. That's one of
the advantages to being rich. You have enough money to buy your way
out. So those Jews who had money and kept it after the Depression,
they used the money to get out and then they withdrew their money from
the banks after the war. When you add those 3 facts up: #1, most Jews
were poor, #2, there is a depression, and #3, the rich Jews escaped,
which means logically there could not have been very much Jewish money
in the Swiss banks. This was all made up by the Holocaust
blackmailers.
Questioner: [Arabic, translation coming soon] [translation pause]
Finkelstein: The Swiss acknowledged 30 million dollars, and in fact,
according to my own estimates based on the evidence, it couldn't have
been more than 60 million dollars. But the Holocaust industry was able
to get 1 1/2billion dollars from the Swiss banks. It was pure robbery.
Let me make one other point. The Holocaust industry claimed it was
demanding the money for what it called needy Holocaust victims but the
victims never saw the money. Once these organizations got the 1.5
billion dollars, the organizations kept the money for themselves. It
was not for the victims. These organizations don't care about the
victims of the Nazi holocaust just as they never cared about the Nazi
holocaust itself. It's a useful weapon. It was a good political weapon
and then they discovered in the 1990s it was a wonderful economic
weapon to blackmail Europe. They went after Switzerland because
Switzerland was politically very weak. It had Swiss banks but it had
no political power.
00:33:00
Questioner: [Arabic, translation coming soon] [translation pause]
Finkelstein: Switzerland had economic relations with Germany during
the war, it was involved in transactions with Germany during the war.
Some were legal, some were not legal, they behaved like every other
power would. Remember that the United States did not enter WW2 until
1941, after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. Up until 1941 the
United States banks also had relations with the Germans. That's the
way big powers operate. The Swiss were no different. The record of the
Swiss is no better and no worse than any other country. There were
Jews who sent money to American banks. Those Jews died. The American
banks never returned the money. There were many Jews who sent money to
Jewish banks, Zionist banks in Palestine. Till this day, as we speak
right now, the Israeli banks refuse to return the money to the
relatives of those Jews who deposited money and died. The Swiss paid
up in 1998. It's nearly 10 years later, the Israeli banks, Bank Leumi,
will not pay back anything.
00:36:00
Questioner: [Arabic, translation coming soon] [translation pause]
Finkelstein: There is no evidence, as I said before, that much money
was deposited in Swiss banks and there is no evidence that the Swiss
bankers behaved any differently than the American bankers or the
Israeli bankers. What happened in the 1990s was that among the main
backers of former President Clinton, among the main backers of the
Democratic Party, were powerful Jews like Edgar Bronfman, the
president of the World Jewish Congress. Basically, a deal was made
between people like Bronfman and President Clinton -- we will support
you for president if in return you will support some of our activities.
<Joseph> wrote in message news:a7a1e2l24ej0fkn3v...@4ax.com...
Ø On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:04:17 -0400, "serwad" <ser...@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Most of the poor people arrested by the idiots did not have passports. So
> >how could they ever get on a plane?
> >
>
> ***Yes, according to at least one reliable source the whole affair was
> concocted to save Blair's worthless political ass. It's not the first
> time this sort of thing has transpired, and it won't be the last.
>
> See:
>
> http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
Ø
LMAO!! First of all the Tricycloacetone Peroxide is in a powder form, not
liquid! Yes liquids go into making it and you have to go through this
laborious procedure, including using ice, refrigeration and 24-48 hrs of
time!
http://www.totse.com/en/bad_ideas/ka_fucking_boom/162660.html
And yet the lying scum collaborator media give us this:
http://www.nwaonline.net/articles/2006/08/11/news/0811tpterrorbomb.txt
By Rob Stein
The Washington Post
[But terrorists could simply carry aboard a plane the two chemicals used to
make TATP - acetone and hydrogen peroxide. Acetone is the same substance
found in most nail polisher remover. Hydrogen peroxide in a very diluted
form can be purchased at any drug store as an antiseptic. The highly
concentrated versions necessary to create an explosion can be obtained
commercially.
"All you need to do is go into the restroom with a pint of each in a couple
of water bottles and mix them together," said Neal Langerman, an chemical
industry consultant who acts as a spokesman for the American Chemical
Society. "Chances are it will instantaneously and violently react. If it
didn't, you can stick in a detonator, hook it up to the battery in your iPod
and you're dead."]
***Neal Langerman. I looked this guy up and he is a professional testifier!
http://chemical-safety.com/litigate.htm The media is saying they are easy
to get chemicals, but peroxide concentrated enough to work in Langermans
example(which I seriously doubt the validity of!) is hard to get and not
common.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I found that the government story was bullshit in about 20 seconds of Google
search, and I'm an amateur! What is wrong with you people?!? And you
members of the public, are any of you swallowing government lies?? Rob
Stein, I want your job!
The knowledge management creeps can't even keep their stories straight:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/nation/stories/081106dnnatliquidbombs.20b7dbd.html
The Department of Homeland Security and FBI sent a memo to law enforcement
agencies on Thursday saying the explosive would have been "peroxide-based,"
with otherwise safe ingredients mixed onboard.
That information, reported by The New York Times, suggests the bombers
planned to make triacetone triperoxide, an explosive that has been around
for more than 100 years. TATP is is a favorite of terrorist bomb-makers.
Though many would-be terrorists have been killed while trying to make the
mixture, its instability might not be a drawback for a suicide bomber.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Uh-huh, yeah and they will wait 24-48 hours for the crystals to form??? New
York Times, give me a job! Those slackers you employ don't even do the most
basic research! Homeland Security needs my help too!
Seriously it is plain to see the media is collaborating to obfuscate the
issue. There is no logical reason to restrict liquids when the powder TATP
can be easily smuggled on, and there is no reason to ban Ipods because TATP
is so unstable all you need to do is bash it with something and BOOM! It
is all FEARMONGERING!!! WAKE UP!!!!!
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Chemical_synthesis/Acetone_peroxide
Warning: This final crystalline mass is very sensitive when dry, it's
friction sensitivity can be as low as .1NM. Proper care must be taken with
the final crystalline mass, as it is highly unstable.
For safety, separate the crystalline mass onto paper plates at 1 gram per
plate; this will greatly reduce the risk of explosion. If a problem were to
occur, the one gram on one of the plates would be less likely to hurt you.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Why is the media so stupid? As if we all don't know... COLLABORATORS WITH
STATE TERRORISTS!!!!! They are lying to us, trying to scare us so we rally
behind the government.. NO! At this point in time, with fearsome weapons
and an information society there is no reason we should tolerate the
"leadership" that is endlessly lying, criminal and inhuman. You know all
the highest levels of government are perverts, with some dirt that will
stick if they don't go along with this terrorstate propaganda. That is how
they have us chained into the hyperglobalist police state they are forming,
using phantom international terrorism they themselves manufacture.
--
Oi don't loike the sound of these 'ere boncentration bamps!
"Binyamin Cramer" <c'ohenisad...@neyahoodieinsight.com> wrote in
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Ø Auschwitz Museum Director
> Reveals 'Gas Chamber' Hoax
> By P. Samuel Foner
> The Spotlight
> Volume XIX, Number 2
> 5-31-4
>
> In a dramatic and unprecedented videotaped interview, Dr. Franciszek
> Piper, senior curator and director of archives of the Auschwitz State
> Museum admitted on camera that 'Krema 1,' the alleged 'homicidal gas
> chamber' shown off to hundreds of thousands of tourists every year at
> the Auschwitz main camp, was, in fact, fabricated after the war by
> the Soviet Union -apparently on the direct orders of Josef Stalin.
>
> What Piper said - in effect and on camera - was that the explosive
> 1988 Leuchter Report was correct: no homicidal gassings took place in
> the buildings designated as 'homicidal gas chambers' at Auschwitz.
>
> With this admission by none other than the respected head of the
> Auschwitz State Museum, one of the most sacred 'facts' of history has
> been destroyed. This 'gas chamber' is the major historical 'fact' on
> which much of the foreign and domestic policies of all Western
> nations since WWII are based.
>
> It is the basis for the $100+ billion in foreign aid the United
> States has poured into the state of Israel since its inception in
> 1948 - amounting to $16,500 for every man, woman and child in the
> Jewish state and billions more paid by Germany in 'reparations' - not
> to mention the constructing of Israel's national telephone,
> electrical and rail systems...all gifts of the German people. It is
> the basis for the $10 billion 'loan' (read 'gift') made to Israel for
> housing its immigrants in the occupied territories...while Americans
> sleep on the streets and businesses are bankrupted by the thousands.
> (Note - As of 2004, not a single 'loan' of US tax money made to the
> state of Israel by Washington has ever been paid back. -ed)
>
> Germany is paying 'reparations' - the United States is making major
> contributions - to atone for the 'gassings at Auschwitz' and
> elsewhere. If the 'homicidal gas chambers' were postwar creations of
> the Soviets, in which no one was gassed regardless of race, creed,
> color or country of national origin, then these 'reparations' were
> unnecessary, and were based on fraud.
>
> The videotape on which Dr. Piper makes his revelations was made in
> mid-1992 by a young Jewish investigator, David Cole and follows 12
> years of intensive investigation by dozens of historians, journalists
> and scientists who have tried to get to the bottom of what really
> happened at Auschwitz.
>
> Like most Americans, since his youth, Cole had been instructed in the
> 'irrefutable fact' that mass homicidal gassings had taken place at
> Auschwitz. The number of those executed - also declared irrefutable -
> was 4.1 million.
>
> Then came the Leuchter Report in 1988 which was followed with an
> official 're-evaluation' of the total deaths at Auschwitz (down to
> 1.1 million). As a budding historian - and a Jew - Cole was intrigued.
>
> Previous to 1992, anyone who publicly doubted or questioned the
> official 4.1 million 'gassing' deaths at Auschwitz was labeled an
> anti-semite, neo-nazi skinhead at the very least. Quietly, because of
> revisionist findings, the official figure was lowered to 1.1 million.
> No mention was made of the missing 3 million.
>
> The Cole videotape interview proves that the people who run the
> Auschwitz State Museum had made a practice of fabricating 'proofs' of
> homicidal gassings. Keep in mind that over the years millions of
> tourists have been told that 'Krema 1' is in its original state,
> while officials knew that 'original state' is a lie.
>
> The political, religious, financial and historical ramifications of
> this proof of no homicidal gas chambers at Auschwitz cannot be
> measured. Coupled with the Leuchter Report, the Cole interview with
> Dr. Piper on videotape proves that what Western governments have
> taught about the Auschwitz gas chamber since WWII is a lie. It proves
> that what televangelists such as Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson have
> been telling their flocks is simply not true.
>
> No one, regardless of race, creed, color or country of national
> origin was gassed to death in any building so designated at
> Auschwitz. And without 'homicidal gas chambers' at Auschwitz, where
> is the reasoning for the special treatment of the state of Israel?
>
> =====
>
> Note - This is excerpted from the original, much longer article by P.
> Samuel Foner.
>
> [END]
>
"JimMcCarthy" <JimMc...@roc.usenetexchange.com> wrote in message
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> On 10 Feb 2007 12:14:16 -0800, in alt.revisionism "thedarkman"
> <A_B...@ABaron.Demon.Co.UK> wrote:
>
> I wouldn't pay much attention to the nutter who appeared on Oprah; I
> remember that, it caused eruptions at the time. So what do we have
> here then? A Jewish academic who admits that hey, maybe Jews had their
> bad guys too, maybe they had their share of bloodthirsty, superstious
> bigots. Like I said before, this really is no big deal for me, but
> watch the shabbez goyim like Mock scream, watch the ADL shriek. Don't
> these people make you wanna laugh?
>
>
> http://www.honestmediatoday.com/professor_admits_jewish_ritual_murder.htm
>
>
> Jewish Professor Admits Jewish Cult Engaged in Past Jewish Ritual
> Murders
>
> According to a recent report by the newspaper "The Guardian," Jewish
> Prof. Ariel Toaff, who is a professor at Bar-Ilan University in Israel
> of Medieval Jewish history but is currently a visiting professor in
> Italy, has written a book,"Pasque di Sangue" (Easter of Blood), which
> describes Jewish ritual murder rites of Jews in the past.
>
> Some details of the book were published in the paper "Corriere Della
> Sera," which also has an online section describing the book.
>
> Prof. Toaff's book reportedly "describes the mutilation and
> crucifixion of a two-year-old boy to recreate Christ's execution at
> Pesach, the Jewish Easter. The festival marks the fleeing of the Jews
> from Egypt and Prof Toaff says Christian blood was used for 'magic and
> therapeutic practices,'" noted the Guardian. Further describing the
> bizarre and hateful customs of Jewish extremists, Prof. Toaff noted
> that Jewish occultists would sometimes mix blood in their matzo balls,
> which was eaten during their religious rites.
>
> He also describes many children who were reportedly crucified on the
> cross.
>
> Unsurprisingly, many Jewish supremacists quickly denied Prof. Toaff's
> accurate findings in an attempt to hide their ancient, bizarre, and
> frightening customs from the general public.
>
> However, Prof. Toaff was hardly the first to acknowledge such crimes
> in recent times. Indeed, in more recent times, a Jewish lady had
> appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show several years ago and described how
> some of her relatives had engaged in similar crimes. The honest and
> brave Jewish lady, Vicki Polin (who used the pseudonym of "Rachel" on
> the Oprah Winfrey show to avoid reprisals), told of how her family had
> engaged in some extremely bizarre Satanic Jewish kabbalistic rites,
> including that of infanticide (video of Oprah's interview with Polin).
>
> In the interview, Oprah asked the young woman, who undoubtedly had
> been traumatized by the ordeal, about what exactly had occurred. Oprah
> opened the discussion, telling of how the poor girl had grown up in a
> family that "participated in human sacrifice," undoubtedly causing
> emotional scars that may never heal.
>
> Here is part of the interview:
>
> OPRAH: ...You come from generations of ritualistic abuse?
>
> POLIN: Yes, my family has an extensive family tree, and they keep
> track of who's been involved and who hasn't been involved, and it's
> gone back to like 1700.
>
> OPRAH: And so you were ritually abused.
>
> POLIN: Right. I was born into a family that believes in this.
>
> OPRAH: Does everyone else think it's a nice Jewish family? From the
> outside, you appear to be a nice Jewish girl?
>
> POLIN: Definitely.
>
> OPRAH: And you all are worshipping the devil inside the home?
>
> POLIN: Right. There's other Jewish families across the country. It's
> not just my own family.
>
> OPRAH: Really? And so who knows about it? Lots of people now.
>
> POLIN: Well, I talked to a police detective in the Chicago area, and
> several of my friends know, and I've spoke publicly before, and...
>
> OPRAH: So when you were brought up in this kind of evilness, did you
> just think it was normal?
>
> RACHEL: I blocked out a lot of the memories I had because of my
> multiple personality disorder, but, yes. I mean, it's like if you grow
> up with something, you think it's normal. I always thought
> something...
>
> OPRAH: So what kinds of things? You don't have to give us the gory
> details, but what kinds of things went on in the family?
>
> POLIN: Well, there would be rituals in which babies would be
> sacrificed, and you would have to, you know...
>
> [end of Oprah excerpt]
>
> You can read more about Polin's ordeal at the website Lukeford.net,
> which also describes many exchanges from Jews about this whole ordeal.
> No doubt, it has caused a big scandal among them, with one of their
> own reportedly acknowledging such grisly crimes.
>
>
> Polin is now the CEO of the Awareness Center, which honorably works to
> prevent ritual abuse and other acts of child cruelty.
>
> In more recent times, the book "Blood Ritual" by Philip DeVier and the
> DVD "Jewish Ritual Murder Revisited: The Hidden Cult Revealed," the
> latter having an interview with noted scholar Dr. Harrell Rhome and
> also being found online in streamable format, have also covered this
> wicked crime committed by Jewish extremists (video).
>
> There is no reason to believe that all Jews commit ritualistic
> infanticide. However, there appears to be too much evidence to neglect
> such crimes altogether in the past. If committed today, it is mostly
> occurring in Israel, where Jewish occults and extremists remain
> rampant, and possibly occurring elsewhere in small numbers, often
> attributed as Satanic acts.
>
Krudd the Dudd
(an...@home.com) sprouted forth in
NoUFk.3074$sc2...@news-server.bigpond.net.au:-
>But do not dare try and give a true history of the WWII holocaust claims of
>Jews.
Because one has already been given, nazi maggot.
Seon Ferguson
"Krudd the Dudd" <let's.have.a...@nodecisions.com> wrote in message
news:20081005173...@linux-k6os.site...
Krudd I agree with you. There is no denying that the holocaust happened. But
when you take away one persons right to free speech you take away everyones.
Those teachers should have been given there rights when they were charged
instead the UK government are acting like Communist crinimals.
Once again I BELIEVE THE HOLOCAUST HAPPENED just incase someone thinks I'm
anti semetic. Which I'm not, God bless Israel.
Krudd the Dudd
(seo...@gmail.com) sprouted forth in
48e869a2$0$22570$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:-
>Krudd I agree with you. There is no denying that the holocaust happened.
>But when you take away one persons right to free speech you take away
>everyones.
Correct. Stopping kooks speaking just adds to their mind blowing cases.
Seon Ferguson
Yeah that as well. Its like if people ever put 911 truthers in concetration
camps. That would only make more people go hold on there's a conspiracy
theory about 911? I say ignore them. We know holocaust deniers are idiots.
But they are gullible people as well so maybe we should counter attack them
as well.
princeandy
No it hasnt , why do you think they all want any body inquiring jailed.
I'll tell you shit for brains.
http://www.nowar-paix.ca/nowar/forum/6973
HOW TO KEEP ACADEMICS QUIET
The Real Issue Is Israel's Human Rights Record:
A statement by Norman G. Finkelstein upon publication of Beyond Chutzpah
Professor Alan Dershowitz of Harvard University is currently best known
for
his advocacy of the "most excruciating" torture against terrorist suspects
such as a "needle being shoved under the fingernails." The alleged purpose
of this torture is to extract a truthful confession but its real
consequence, as human rights organizations have pointed out, is to produce
whatever statements are necessary to end the suffering.
For 15 months
Dershowitz has applied a variant of this truth-seeking technique -- less
physically painful but no less excruciating -- to prospective publishers
of
Beyond Chutzpah, which offers a critical examination of Israel's human
rights record and Dershowitz's defense of it. Enlisting one of the most
powerful law firms in the country after his personal initiatives proved
unsuccessful, Dershowitz has repeatedly threatened to bankrupt highly
respected publishers with litigation if they didn't cancel publication of
my
book. He could then proclaim that the cancellation confirmed the "truth"
that Beyond Chutzpah didn't meet scholarly standards.
Dershowitz justified these blackmail tactics on the ground that Beyond
Chutzpah libels him. Yet, when I first began to expose his gross scholarly
misconduct, Dershowitz publicly declared at UCLA (on 21 October 2003) that
he wouldn't respond with a libel action because he believed "so strongly
in
the First Amendment and full freedom of speech." Ironically, just as he
was
threatening my publishers with expensive and time-consuming lawsuits,
Dershowitz denounced Holocaust denier David Irving, who had sued Deborah
Lipstadt for libel, with these words: "Before Irving lost his case
[against
Lipstadt], several publishers had refused to issue books critical of
Irving,
out of fear of his bringing expensive and time-consuming lawsuits. That
was
a chilling of free speech" (Afterword to Lipstadt's History on Trial; his
emphasis).
My publisher, University of California Press, was understandably at great
pains to fend off a potential lawsuit by Dershowitz; for an academic
publisher the associated costs would have been ruinous, to the point of
making certain victory meaningless. On occasion our relationship became
strained and at one point it appeared as if we had reached an impasse.
However, through the skillful mediation of Nation magazine senior editor
Roane Carey (who was the freelance editor of Beyond Chutzpah) and others,
a
satisfactory compromise was reached that protected the interests of both
publisher and author, and, most importantly, preserved the integrity of
the
book. I would like personally to extend my heartfelt thanks to all who
supported me and the press during this difficult period.
Reviewed by Sara Powell
It's no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
coverage in the American media.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1569802351/103-1175775-5239804?v=glance&n=2
83155
http://www.counterpunch.org/brenner05252005.html
http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2002/12/1553622.php
http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/index.htm
Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has compiled a wide variety of letters,
statements, articles, and judgements?some of which appeared in his
earlier book?by a broad array of activists and authors, that documents
Zionist
cooperration with the Nazis.
On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
presents the case?made in many Zionists? own words?that the Nazi
agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
new Jewish nation.
In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
others written in response.
These latter do indicate levels of collaboration between Zionists and
fascists, both the Nazis in Germany, and those in Mussolini's Italy.
Brenner's brief explanatory notes at the beginning of each document
are helpful, as are the glossary and index.
51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
eschewed the boycott against Hitler?s Germany, for instance, is that
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-060706mideast,1,7895295.story?coll=chi-news-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true
they had a financial deal?Ha'avara?with Germany allowing Jews to
exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of 'nationality' versus
citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
same concept.
51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term Holocaust
guilt, frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
threatened European brethren.
From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.
18, 1943:
And when some asked me: Can't you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora? I said:
?No! And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I'm guilty, for the fact
that we don't give ourselves completely to rescue actions.(p. 211)
However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
as an important dividing line?and, moreover, were determined to keep
it that way.
The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is
that involving Rudolf Kastner.
Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
Those who have, are generally under the impression that
there is some "controversy" about negotiations he undertook
for "the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
equipment," but that he was "fully rehabilitated" by the
Supreme Court of Israel.
The Accusations
Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:
I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that -
I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
deeds of the war.
No gassing in auschwitz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dyBMuSYLGk
While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is still on my
arm
Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.
Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.
Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...
(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)
These accusations are confirmed by the "Eichmann Confessions"
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's
directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
political officials in Budapest...Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.
This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep order in the
collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
camps, the price...was not too high for me.
"...We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
"Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for
a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune...
"As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
immensely idealistic Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner
would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
blood to achieve his political goal...
'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have
this group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great
service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner."
(Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)
Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
do not relate merely to "the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment."
Are the accusations against Kastner true?
According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
Israeli Government did rather more than demand that his
views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
-88-
The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving Rudolf Kastner.
Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
'controversy' about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of
Jewish lives for money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully
rehabilitated' by the Supreme Court of Israel.
That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
3CR for anti-semitism.
It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
what Kastner was accused of.
This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing
with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert
like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has
been unable to find out what it is all about.
Maurice Bardeche, a French fascist, asserted that people had died in
concentration camps, not because they were murdered, but due to war-related
events. He wrote that the expression, 'the Final Solution of the Jewish
problem' meant, for the Germans, that the Jews would be transferred to
ghettos in Eastern Europe. Bardeche claimed the gas chambers were used to
'disinfect' the concentration camps' inmates, not kill them!
"Another Frenchman, Paul Rassinier, a pre-war communist and later a
socialist, had been a member of the French Resistance. He was arrested and
interned in concentration camps, among them Buchenwald. In 1948 he published
a book Crossing the Line, in which he argued that people might have been
killed in concentration camps, but that the perpetrators had acted on their
own, not on orders from headquarters.
Read the Red Cross reports. Go to the Red Cross museum, headquarters
in your city and pick up the records. Anyway theres a few independent
witnesses.
http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndstats.html
http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_international&Numbe
r=293321480
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=2735
http://www.rense.com/general69/factua.htm
Rassinier seems to wrap it up.
http://www.ihr.org/books/rassinier/debunking1-0.html
During World WarII, Rassinier was a highly decorated member of the French
Resistance. In October of 1943 he was arrested by the Gestapo for various
activities including the smuggling of Jewish refugees over the Franco-Swiss
border. http://www.codoh.com/thoughtcrimes/PORT1RAS.HTML
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v19/v19n2_Letters.html
On July 13, 1994, a documentary on the life of Charles A. Lindbergh
broadcast on the Public Broadcast System (PBS - KENW-TV) said that when
Lindbergh visited one of these few camps in Germany following WW2, he was
told that 25,000 died in 1-1/2 years
http://history.acusd.edu/gen/WW2Timeline/lindbergh3.html
BODY DISPOSAL AUS - the defence by jews
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/
http://666ismoney.com/HolocaustAds.html
I, Raquel Baranow am a Grad Student of Holocaust Denial. There are persons
with PhD's in various fields who
also deny the 6 million canard. The best evidence is forensic. Until
recently, there was never a forensic
examination of the alleged murder weapon (gas chambers). Demographic figures
are incomplete. After the fall
of East Europe to communism, many of the millions of Jews who fled Poland
into the Soviet Union or ended up
behind the Iron Curtain changed their names to assimilate, many civilians
died in the war, many died in the
concentration camps of louse-born typhus. During World War One, two million
civilians in the Soviet Union died
of typhus. Many died in Stalin's gulags.
Yad Vashem,( http://www.yadvashem.org/wps/portal/IY_HON_Welcome)a Holocaust
Documentation Center in Israel has a database of 3,000,000 alleged victims
of Nazi
extermination. But as you can see HERE
(http://666ismoney.com/YadVashem.html) (my maiden name, Friedemann), nearly
every name is listed at least
twice, some as many as five times!
http://www.yadvashem.org/lwp/workplace/IY_HON_Welcome
Yad Vashem's 3,000,000 "Holocaust victims" database lists nearly
everyone twice. Some as many at five times. Anyone, including
you can submit a "Page of Testimony".
And of course we have lists duplicated, unconfirmed, but 3m according to our
usual jewish/Zionist sources.
Put your name in, you might be missing out on reparations.
Has been improvements since this, numbers still very dicey.
Name Town District Region
Country Bday Source
Friedemann Adolf Berlin Berlin Berlin Germany
1879 list of victims from Germany
Friedemann Adolf Berlin Berlin Berlin Germany
1879 list of deportation from Berlin
Friedemann Adolf Berlin Berlin Berlin Germany
1905 list of deportation from Berlin
It is forensically impractical or impossible to exterminate millions with
louse disinfestant (hydrogen cyanide gas)
or diesel exhaust as alleged by malicious "witnesses" or tortured
confessors. There are no written orders for
extermination. Aerial reconnaissance photographs of the concentration camps
show no smoke and flames
belching from the crematoria and pyres as alleged. The photos and records
show there was not enough coke or
crematoria to cremate millions of corpses. The "witnesses" and confessors
lied about how many minutes it takes
to cremate a corpse. Diesel exhaust does not contain significant amount of
carbon monoxide to kill a human. If
the Nazis wanted to kill millions they could have driven the coal fired
train into a tunnel or quonset hut and gassed
'em with the exhaust from the locomotive or used the exhaust from the
crematoria. At Auschwitz, during a typhus
epidemic, up to 300 people died per day, hence the crematoria, shaving of
heads and requisitions for tons of
Zyklon B louse disinfestant. HCN is a very dangerous, impractical, messy
method for extermination.
http://www.vho.org/
The Holocaust Controversy A Case for open Debate
The Gas Chambers are a fraud, a tourist attraction, slander, demonizing,
impractical/impossible, malicious
atrocity propaganda spread by the communists, who hated Hitler and
perpetrated by Jews, who were always
looking for ways to get to the lands of milk and money. The Jews have
extorted billions from the US Treasury,
Germany, Swiss banks and insurance companies on account of the Holohoax
fraud. The Holohoax also makes
those who fought Hitler feel like they did something good fighting the
demon, Hitler instead of letting Hitler take
on Stalin alone.
A "liberal" person has an open mind. A bigot is irrational and obstinate.
On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:09:27 -0700, Protagonist <sza...@comcast.net wrote:
Gunner wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 08:40:43 -0700, Protagonist <sza...@comcast.net
wrote:
Summary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dyBMuSYLGk
no gassing at auschwitz
The Auschwitz extermination story originated as wartime propaganda. Now,
more than 40 years after the end of the Second World War, it is time to
take
another, more objective look at this highly polemicized chapter of
history.
The Auschwitz legend is the core of the Holocaust story. If hundreds of
thousands of Jews were not systematically killed there, as alleged, one
of the great myths of our time collapses.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dyBMuSYLGk
Artificially maintaining the hatreds and passions of the past prevents
genuine reconciliation and lasting peace. Revisionism promotes
historical
awareness and international understanding. That is why the work of the
Institute for Historical Review is so important and deserves your
support.
Before 1937, there was a European Jewish population of 15million+
people in 14 different countries.
You are very confused! Europe never had 15 million Jews, under the Third
Reich only lass than 5 million. Before WW2 world Jew population was
around 15 million.
Get your fact straight first.
Old Almanacs Never Lie!
They just get a new Peterbuilt
584,549 MORE jews in 1949 than in 1940
Meyers Handlexicon, Germany 1921 -- 11,600,000
World Almanac, 1925, pg. 752 -- 15,630,000, "In 1925 a census of
Palestine gave a total of 115,151 Jews"
World Almanac, 1929, pg. 727 -- 15,630,000
National Council of Churches 1930 -- 15,600 ,000
March 24, 1933, jewish newspaper Daily Express -- 14,000,000 jews worldwide
World Almanac, 1933, pg. 419 -- 15,316,359, ["The estimate for Jews in
the above table is for 1933, and is by the American Jewish Committee"
World Almanac, 1936, pg. 748 -- world jewish population = 15,753,633
World Almanac, 1938, pg. 510 -- world jewish population = 15,748,091,
with 240,000 in Germany
American Jewish Committee Bureau of the Synagogue Council, 1939 --
15,600,000
World Almanac, 1940, pg. 129: World Jewish Population -- 15,319,359
World Almanac, 1941, pg. 510: World Jewish Population -- 15,748,091
World Almanac, 1942, pg. 849: World Jewish Population -- 15,192,089
("Jews include Jews by race not necessarily by religion")
World Almanac USA, 1947, pg. 748: World Jewish Population -- 15,690,000
World Almanac, 1949, pg. 289: World Jewish Population -- 15,713,638
Statistical Handbook of Council of Churches USA 1951 -- 15,300,000
Encyclopedia Britannica's 1955 Book of the Year -- 11,627,450, "Jewish
figures include all Jews whether members of a synagogue or not"
World Almanac, US News & World Report, 1983 population of jews --
16,820,850
World Almanac, 1996, pg. 646: World Jewish Population -- 14,117,000
World Almanac & Book of Facts, 1989: World Jewish Population --18,080,000
World Almanac & Book of Facts, 2001: World Jewish Population -- 13,200,000
Nazis Evacuate Two Million jews from German Held Territory
Total World Population of jews
America Europe Asia Africa
Oceania Total
1938 5,343,319 8,939,608 839,809 598,339 27,016
15,748,091
1948 5,198,219 9,372,666 572,930 542,869 26,954
15,763,638
Diff -145,100 +433,058 -266,879 -55,470 -9,938
+15,547
By 1945...there were less than 1 million in those countries. Few
managed to escape to the USA, England etc.
those 14,000,000 went where exactly?
For 45 years was posted at Auschwitz an excepted figure at Nurenberg
trial of 4 million death. 1990 it was changed to 1.1 million, based on
transportation figures, all most 3 million difference.
But the over all 6 million total Jewish death death has not changed.
What happened to the 3 millions?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dyBMuSYLGk
Franciszek Piper, director of the historical committee of the
Auschwitz-Birkenau Museum, said yesterday that, according to recent
research, at least 1.3 million people were deported to the camp, of whom
about 223,000 survived.
The 1.1 million victims included 960,000 Jews, between 70,000 and 75,000
Poles, nearly all of the 23,000 Gypsies sent to the camp and 15,000
Soviet prisoners of war.<<
Official Auschwitz figures!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dyBMuSYLGk
http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/history/auschwitz-figures.htm
Some indeed died by disease, old age and accidents of war.
Most did at the end of war, thanks to the Allie efficient bombing of
railroad transportation.
But at
least half..at the least, died by the hands of the Turd Reich.
Not true! Jews were put to labor camps, for security reason and later to
move them to Palestine or Madagascar.
Same reason as the US forced some 150,000 Jap-Americans and Germans into
camps.
It
makes no difference if they were machinegunned into mass graves by the
Einsatzgruppen, or the aroma of Zyklon B,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dyBMuSYLGk
Zyklon-B was a disinfectants, to delouse housing, personal belongings of
inmates.
It was used for to save lives not kill. After the war propaganda lies
changed that.
"Rassinier initially admitted that people had been killed by being gassed,
which he claimed was a local initiative and not the responsibility of the
central Nazi system. Later he denied the existence of the gas chambers
altogether.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dyBMuSYLGk
This argument was repeated by Louis Darquier de Pellepoix, who
had been Commissioner for Jewish Affairs of the notorious French Vichy
government for several years. In an infamous interview in 1978, which drew
widespread criticism, he told the French weekly L'Express that the Holocaust
was a hoax and that only lice were gassed in Auschwitz. Rassinier also
claimed that the concentration camps were not a German invention, and that
many other countries had used them, including France. This is an early
example of the balancing acts Irving and later deniers applied.
Dear girl goes on about people turning facts to suit their story, an
examination of her story over the years certainly brings that to light in
her story.
"The first generation of post-war deniers, to which both Bardeche and
Rassinier belonged, justified Nazi anti-Semitism by asserting that the Jews
were responsible for their own suffering, since they had caused Germany's
financial and political problems. Later deniers abandoned this line of
argument, because they felt it undermined whatever credibility they had."
The Wiesenthal Record
While it is gratifying to note that, in his recent "Revisionist" letter,
Wiesenthal implicitly "denies history" as "established" by the Nuremberg
Tribunal, it must be pointed out that nearly everything else he says is
untrue.
There is not a shred of evidence, for example, that "a gas chamber was
in the process of being built at Dachau, but it was never completed."
(See "The Second Leuchter Report" by American gas chamber expert Fred
Leuchter in The Journal of Historical Review, Fall 1990.) There is
likewise no proof that "mentally and physically handicapped people were
killed" by gas at any of the four "institutions" Wiesenthal mentions.
This US Army photo was taken at Dachau on April 30, 1945, one day after
the camp's capture. It shows a GI standing in front of a door marked
with a skull and crossbones and the words "Caution! Gas! Life danger! Do
not open!" According to the official caption, "these chambers were used
by Nazi guards for killing prisoners of the infamous Dachau
concentration camp." In fact, this is a small disinfection gas chamber
used for delousing clothes. It was never used to kill people. For
several decades, this photo has been widely reproduced to help keep
alive the notorious Dachau "gas chamber" myth. (US Army photo SC 206194.)
Actually -- and contrary to his highly flattering public image -- the
renowned "Nazi hunter" has a well-documented but little-known record of
deceit, mendacity and prevarication. Some highlights:
Wiesenthal repeatedly lied about his alleged role in locating Adolf
Eichmann, was consistently wrong about Josef Mengele, and falsely
accused Polish-American Frank Walus of having murdered Jews in Poland as
a Gestapo official. Wiesenthal has absurdly charged that the Germans
exterminated Jews in "electrocution chambers," and that they
manufactured bars of soap from the bodies of murdered Jews. His
deception about his own wartime activities prompted Austrian Chancellor
Bruno Kreisky (himself of Jewish ancestry) to accuse the "Nazi hunter"
of having collaborated with his wartime oppressors. (For details about
Wiesenthal's record, see: M. Weber, "Simon Wiesenthal: Bogus Nazi
Hunter," The Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1989-90.)
THE CANADIAN JEWISH NEWS, Jan. 30, 1992
Wannsee's importance rejected
London (JTA) - An Israeli Holocaust scholar has debunked the Wannsee
Conference, at which top Nazi officials are said to have gathered at a
villa in a Berlin suburb in 1942 to draw the blueprints of the "Final
Solution."
According to Prof. Yehuda Bauer (photo) of the Hebrew University in
Jerusalem, Wannsee was a meeting, "but hardly a conference", and
"little of what was said there was executed in detail."
"The public still repeats, time after time, the silly story that at
Wannsee the extermination of the Jews was arrived at."
"I have never held myself out to be a Holocaust expert, nor
have I written books about what is now called the Holocaust."
"I have done my best to prepare the case that follows, but
I respectfully submit that I do not have any duty to become an
expert on the Holocaust, my Lord."
"I have never claimed to be a Holocaust historian. As I have
said, I have no written no book about the Holocaust. I have written
no article about it. If I have spoken about it, it is usually
because somebody has asked me a question, I have been questioned
about it. On such occasions I have emphasised my lack of expertise
and I have expatiated only upon those areas with which I am familiar."
http://www.fpp.co.uk/Legal/Penguin/transcripts/day002.htm:
"Now, you heard me say in my opening statement, Mr Rampton,
that I am not an expert on the Holocaust. What I would now say
would be a figure without any value whatsoever."
"Q. [Rampton] What you do you say about Sobibor, Treblinka,
Belzec and Chelmno?"
"A. [Irving] Nothing at all. I am not an expert."
RJ.
The Jews And The Concentration Camps:
A Factual Appraisal By The Red Cross.
There is one survey of the Jewish question in Europe during World War
Two and the conditions of Germany's concentration camps which is
almost unique in its honesty and objectivity, the three-volume Report
of the International Committee of the Red Cross on its Activities
during the Second World War, Geneva, 1948.
This comprehensive account from an entirely neutral source
incorporated and expanded the findings of two previous works:
Documents sur l'activité du CICR en faveur des civils détenus dans les
camps de concentration en Allemagne 1939-1945 (Geneva, 1946), and
Inter Arma Caritas: the Work of the ICRC during the Second World War
(Geneva, 1947). The team of authors, headed by Frédéric Siordet,
explained in the opening pages of the Report that their object, in the
tradition of the Red Cross, had been strict political neutrality, and
herein lies its great value.
The ICRC successfully applied the 1929 Geneva military convention in
order to gain access to civilian internees held in Central and Western
Europe by the Germany authorities. By contrast, the ICRC was unable to
gain any access to the Soviet Union, which had failed to ratify the
Convention. The millions of civilian and military internees held in
the USSR, whose conditions were known to be by far the worst, were
completely cut off from any international contact or supervision.
The Red Cross Report is of value in that it first clarifies the
legitimate circumstances under which Jews were detained in
concentration camps, i.e. as enemy aliens. In describing the two
categories of civilian internees, the Report distinguishes the second
type as "Civilians deported on administrative grounds (in German,
"Schutzhäftlinge"), who were arrested for political or racial motives
because their presence was considered a danger to the State or the
occupation forces" (Vol. 111, p. 73). These persons, it continues,
"were placed on the same footing as persons arrested or imprisoned
under common law for security reasons." (P.74).
The Report admits that the Germans were at first reluctant to permit
supervision by the Red Cross of people detained on grounds relating to
security, but by the latter part of 1942, the ICRC obtained important
concessions from Germany. They were permitted to distribute food
parcels to major concentration camps in Germany from August 1942, and
"from February 1943 onwards this concession was extended to all other
camps and prisons" (Vol. 111, p. 78). The ICRC soon established
contact with camp commandants and launched a food relief programme
which continued to function until the last months of 1945, letters of
thanks for which came pouring in from Jewish internees.
Red Cross Recipients Were Jews
The Report states that "As many as 9,000 parcels were packed daily.
From the autumn of 1943 until May 1945, about 1,112,000 parcels with a
total weight of 4,500 tons were sent off to the concentration camps"
(Vol. III, p. 80). In addition to food, these contained clothing and
pharmaceutical supplies. "Parcels were sent to Dachau, Buchenwald,
Sangerhausen, Sachsenhausen, Oranienburg, Flossenburg,
Landsberg-am-Lech, Flöha, Ravensbrück, Hamburg-Neuengamme, Mauthausen,
Theresienstadt, Auschwitz, Bergen-Belsen, to camps near Vienna and in
Central and Southern Germany. The principal recipients were Belgians,
Dutch, French, Greeks, Italians, Norwegians, Poles and stateless Jews"
(Vol. III, p. 83).
In the course of the war, "The Committee was in a position to transfer
and distribute in the form of relief supplies over twenty million
Swiss francs collected by Jewish welfare organisations throughout the
world, in particular by the American Joint Distribution Committee of
New York" (Vol. I, p. 644). This latter organisation was permitted by
the German Government to maintain offices in Berlin until the American
entry into the war. The ICRC complained that obstruction of their vast
relief operation for Jewish internees came not from the Germans but
from the tight Allied blockade of Europe. Most of their purchases of
relief food were made in Rumania, Hungary and Slovakia.
The ICRC had special praise for the liberal conditions which prevailed
at Theresienstadt up to the time of their last visits there in April
1945. This camp, "where there were about 40,000 Jews deported from
various countries was a relatively privileged ghetto" (Vol. III, p.
75). According to the Report, "'The Committee's delegates were able to
visit the camp at Theresienstadt (Terezin) which was used exclusively
for Jews and was governed by special conditions. From information
gathered by the Committee, this camp had been started as an experiment
by certain leaders of the Reich ... These men wished to give the Jews
the means of setting up a communal life in a town under their own
administration and possessing almost complete autonomy. . . two
delegates were able to visit the camp on April 6th, 1945. They
confirmed the favourable impression gained on the first visit" (Vol.
I, p . 642).
The ICRC also had praise for the regime of Ion Antonescu of Fascist
Rumania where the Committee was able to extend special relief to
183,000 Rumanian Jews until the time of the Soviet occupation. The aid
then ceased, and the ICRC complained bitterly that it never succeeded
"in sending anything whatsoever to Russia" (Vol. II, p. 62). The same
situation applied to many of the German camps after their "liberation"
by the Russians. The ICRC received a voluminous flow of mail from
Auschwitz until the period of the Soviet occupation, when many of the
internees were evacuated westward. But the efforts of the Red Cross to
send relief to internees remaining at Auschwitz under Soviet control
were futile. However, food parcels continued to be sent to former
Auschwitz inmates transferred west to such camps as Buchenwald and
Oranienburg.
No Evidence Of Genocide
One of the most important aspects of the Red Cross Report is that it
clarifies the true cause of those deaths that undoubtedly occurred in
the camps toward the end of the war. Says the Report: "In the chaotic
condition of Germany after the invasion during the final months of the
war, the camps received no food supplies at all and starvation claimed
an increasing number of victims. Itself alarmed by this situation, the
German Government at last informed the ICRC on February 1st, 1945 ...
In March 1945, discussions between the President of the ICRC and
General of the S.S. Kaltenbrunner gave even more decisive results.
Relief could henceforth be distributed by the ICRC, and one delegate
was authorised to stay in each camp ..." (Vol. III, p. 83).
Clearly, the German authorities were at pains to relieve the dire
situation as far as they were able. The Red Cross are quite explicit
in stating that food supplies ceased at this time due to the Allied
bombing of German transportation, and in the interests of interned
Jews they had protested on March 15th, 1944 against "the barbarous
aerial warfare of the Allies" (Inter Arma Caritas, p. 78). By October
2nd, 1944, the ICRC warned the German Foreign Office of the impending
collapse of the German transportation system, declaring that
starvation conditions for people throughout Germany were becoming
inevitable.
In dealing with this comprehensive, three-volume Report, it is
important to stress that the delegates of the International Red Cross
found no evidence whatever at the camps in Axis occupied Europe of a
deliberate policy to exterminate the Jews. In all its 1,600 pages the
Report does not even mention such a thing as a gas chamber. It admits
that Jews, like many other wartime nationalities, suffered rigours and
privations, but its complete silence on the subject of planned
extermination is ample refutation of the Six Million legend. Like the
Vatican representatives with whom they worked, the Red Cross found
itself unable to indulge in the irresponsible charges of genocide
which had become the order of the day. So far as the genuine mortality
rate is concerned, the Report points out that most of the Jewish
doctors from the camps were being used to combat typhus on the eastern
front, so that they were unavailable when the typhus epidemics of 1945
broke out in the camps (Vol. I, p. 204 ff) - Incidentally, it is
frequently claimed that mass executions were carried out in gas
chambers cunningly disguised as shower facilities. Again the Report
makes nonsense of this allegation. "Not only the washing places, but
installations for baths, showers and laundry were inspected by the
delegates. They had often to take action to have fixtures made less
primitive, and to get them repaired or enlarged" (Vol. III, p. 594).
Not All Were Interned
Volume III of the Red Cross Report, Chapter 3 (I. Jewish Civilian
Population) deals with the "aid given to the Jewish section of the
free population," and this chapter makes it quite plain that by no
means all of the European Jews were placed in internment camps, but
remained, subject to certain restrictions, as part of the free
civilian population. This conflicts directly with the "thoroughness"
of the supposed "extermination programme", and with the claim in the
forged Höss memoirs that Eichmann was obsessed with seizing "every
single Jew he could lay his hands on."
In Slovakia, for example, where Eichmann's assistant Dieter Wisliceny
was in charge, the Report states that "A large proportion of the
Jewish minority had permission to stay in the country, and at certain
periods Slovakia was looked upon as a comparative haven of refuge for
Jews, especially for those coming from Poland. Those who remained in
Slovakia seem to have been in comparative safety until the end of
August 1944, when a rising against the German forces took place. While
it is true that the law of May 15th, 1942 had brought about the
internment of several thousand Jews, these people were held in camps
where the conditions of food and lodging were tolerable, and where the
internees were allowed to do paid work on terms almost equal to those
of the free labour market" (Vol. I, p. 646).
Not only did large numbers of the three million or so European Jews
avoid internment altogether, but the emigration of Jews continued
throughout the war, generally by way of Hungary, Rumania and Turkey.
Ironically, post-war Jewish emigration from German-occupied
territories was also facilitated by the Reich, as in the case of the
Polish Jews who had escaped to France before its occupation. "The Jews
from Poland who, whilst in France, had obtained entrance permits to
the United States were held to be American citizens by the German
occupying authorities, who further agreed to recognize the validity of
about three thousand passports issued to Jews by the consulates of
South American countries" (Vol. I, p. 645).
As future U.S. citizens, these Jews were held at the Vittel camp in
southern France for American aliens. The emigration of European Jews
from Hungary in particular proceeded during the war unhindered by the
German authorities. "Until March 1944," says the. Red Cross Report,
"Jews who had the privilege of visas for Palestine were free to leave
Hungary" (Vol. I, p. 648). Even after the replacement of the Horthy
Government in 1944 (following its attempted armistice with the Soviet
Union) with a government more dependent on German authority, the
emigration of Jews continued.
The Committee secured the pledges of both Britain and the United
States "to give support by every means to the emigration of Jews from
Hungary," and from the U.S. Government the ICRC received a message
stating that "The Government of the United States ... now specifically
repeats its assurance that arrangements will be made by it for the
care of all Jews who in the present circumstances are allowed to
leave" (Vol. I, p . 649).
Biedermann agreed that in the nineteen instances that "Did Six Million
Really Die?" quoted from the Report of the International Committee of
the Red Cross on its Activities during the Second World War and Inter
Arma Caritas (this includes the above material), it did so accurately.
A quote from Charles Biedermann (a delegate of the International
Committee of the Red Cross and Director of the Red Cross'
International Tracing Service) under oath at the Zündel Trial
(February 9, 10, 11 and 12, 1988).
The New Blasphemy
by Tom Blair
News Editor, The Jubilee
There was a time when a man did not blaspheme God in America. There were
severe social proscriptions against it. Some communities even had laws
against blasphemy. Well blasphemy is still a great sin in America and may
soon be a crime again. But sadly America has a new god and so, a new
blasphemy.
Let me here commit the new blasphemy while it is still legal. What we know
as the "holocaust" is largely war-time propaganda. Propaganda that, unlike
most war-time propaganda, was not quietly forgotten. Instead it has
continued; grown more fantastic, more hateful, and more dangerous to
question every year since 1945.
The truth is that somewhere between 700,000 and 1,500,000 people died in
German work camps in 1944 and 1945. Most of them were Jews. Many were not.
Most of them died in the last six months of the war from disease and hunger
caused by America's bombing of Germany and subsequent destruction of her
infrastructure. There were some atrocities but very few. Few people realize
that the International Red Cross had a field office in Auschwiz from 1942
until the end of the war. That office never reported or recorded any
atrocities (Several years ago international Jewry forced the Red Cross to
apologize to the Jews - apologize for not seeing something that never
happened.)
Winston Churchill wrote a five volume history of World War II and never
mentioned the holocaust. He never mentioned it because he knew that the
holocaust was just wartime propaganda and he did not want to sully what he
hoped would be the definitive history of the war with propaganda that common
sense alone could refute. I could go on but the evidence I speak of is
available to The Jubilee readers from many patriotic sources even though it
is still widely censored by America's media and libraries.
I once considered the battle over the holocaust as a great political trump
card allowing us to take back the moral high ground on the censorship issue
from the left. But I see now that it is much more important than that. The
holocaust is qualitatively different than the silly lies nations tell their
citizens to get them so fired up they will send their children to die in
foreign wars. The holocaust is not pre-war propaganda. It is post-war
propaganda.
Why do we need post World War II propaganda? Because World War II was the
greatest human catastrophe in two thousand years for the Aryan peoples and
we "gentiles" must not be allowed to see the truth. It was more than the
slaughter of our racial kinsmen and the destruction of our racial homeland.
World War II was the most significant crossroads the Christian nations have
faced since Herman faced the legions of Rome in the forests of Teutonberg
2,000 years ago. But Herman won the battle of Teutonberg Wald. The Christian
world lost World War II. We lost because we came to a crossroads and went
the wrong way.
Our government needs post-war propaganda like the holocaust because the
titanic ideological struggle of that war is still being fought. We all know
how the Jews use their holocaust to extort money, extort privilege, extort
political advantage, and extort moral superiority from the Christian
nations. But our anti-Christ government needs World War II to continue to
exploit and destroy the Christian nations of Europe. If the Aryan peoples
are allowed to think that they have the right to sovereignty within the
homelands that God gave them, then the whole globalist con-game comes to an
end.
Non-white, non-Christian peoples have swarmed into Europe and America since
World War II. They have changed our culture, language, churches, and
communities. The same thing is happening in Europe.
Our legal system has
changed from one based on English common law into an incomprehensible
Talmudic monstrosity - with thought crimes ("hate" crimes), guilt by
association (conspiracy), criminalization of legitimate protest (federal and
civil suits against peaceful abortion clinic protests), federal subpoenas
used to threaten anti-immigration groups, and sedition trials against
opponents of federal tyranny. We are so weak that we no longer defend
ourselves. And we are weak because our spiritual fabric has been subverted
by Judeo-Christian guilt; much of it instilled with lies surrounding the
holocaust. The last great effort of a Christian nation to defend its
sovereignty as a homeland for its people (World War II) is portrayed as the
greatest crime in history. Our people, like sheep, believe this lie.
Even the paleo-conservative Jewish political scientist Paul Gottfried (one
of the few Jewish writers I truly enjoy reading) agrees with most of the
points made by the Institute for Historical Review. (IHR, PO Box 4296,
Torrance, CA 90510). In a fine letter to the IHR Journal he laments the
"self-loathing combined with self-indulgence which characterizes our
culture." But Prof. Gottfried is Jewish, and so not surprisingly goes on to
say that we should fight the guilt complex confronting us but somehow not
challenge the holocaust mythology. I feel the good professors pain. And I
understand. But Prof. Gottfried has to understand that there ARE two sides
to this story. I don't really care how religious groups like Jews portray
themselves. I expect their myths to glorify their deeds, magnify their
oppression, and elevate their role in history. But if lies are told about
the events of World War II, then that is as much a desecration of the memory
of my people as the holocaust is to the Jews. I don't care about their
religious dogma until they start to shove it down the throats of my
children; or take my tax dollars to build their icons on Americas public
property; or use it to set American foreign policy against the interests of
the American people; or slander the people of my nation.
The battle over the holocaust is a battle for the allegiance of our
children. It is a battle for our right to be a nation. It is a battle for
sovereignty over our homelands. Do I "deny the holocaust?" No! No indeed. I
hope the holocaust is not denied and never forgotten. I hope the holocaust
is remembered as the greatest propaganda effort and hate campaign ever waged
against a civilized people. We must never forget. We must look at the
despoliation of our people and our culture and ask - Why do the heavens not
darken? We have lost the will and courage to defend ourselves. The time has
come to commit the new blasphemy. It is time to deny the gods of the New
World Order and to honor those of us who will burn at the stake for doing so
There was success where ever the jews managed to shed there zionist
component and join the non jews.
The Illuminati
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/illuminati.htm
We control America??
http://www.mediamonitors.net/khodr49.html
only a reality check really?
American Terrorism.
http://www.mediamonitors.net/mosaddeq13.html
http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Crosses/Crosses.html
In 1998, Polish nationalists embarked upon a mission to put up 152 Christian
crosses in honor of the Polish Catholic resistance fighters who were
executed by the Nazis in a gravel pit behind Block 11 at the main Auschwitz
concentration camp.
The crosses that were put up in 1998 have since been removed and peace has
been restored.
http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/poland.htm
Six Million Polish Citizens Were Killed During the Holocaust of World War
II. Half of These Polish Citizens Were Non-Jews.
http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/list.htm
Registry of over 700 Polish citizens killed while helping Jews During the
Holocaust: http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/fivmil.htm
http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/forgottensurvivors.htm
http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/
http://isurvived.org/non-jewish.html
Holocaust Pictures and Stories - Non-Jewish Holocaust - The Forgotten
Holocaust
http://www.religionbookreviews.com/r02-06-09.htm
http://www.jfkmontreal.com/footnotes.htm
In early 1999, it was disclosed that Leopold Amery not only wrote the 1917
Balfour Declaration, which laid the groundwork for the state of Israel; but
he was also a secret Jew. Amery was assistant secretary to the British war
cabinet in 1917. William Rubinstein, professor of modern history at the
University of Wales, asserted that Amery hid his Jewish background.
According to Rubinstein's research, Amery's mother was born to Jewish
parents in 1841 and was named Elisabeth Joanna Saphir. The family lived in
Pest, which later became part of Budapest and contained the city's first
Jewish quarter. The professor's disclosures are contained in the February
1999 edition of History Today.
http://www.jfkmontreal.com/introduction.htm#footnote%202
1. Opium was the glue that held together the rivaling factions that
conspired to kill JFK.
2. The main factions in the conspiracy were Zionist instigators, the
American Mafia (headed by Jewish mobster Meyer Lansky and his lieutenant,
Santo Trafficante), French-Corsican crime syndicates in Marseilles, France
and Southeast Asia, and the US military.
3. Heroin smuggling was first introduced to the American Mafia in the
1920s by Jewish gangsters such as Meyer Lansky, "Legs" Diamond, and "Dutch"
Schultz.
4. One of the reasons President Johnson escalated US involvement in
Southeast Asia was because the American Mafia and French-Corsican heroin
traffickers needed a new source of opium for their heroin factories. Turkey
had been the main source, but its government was about to eradicate opium
production.
5. Joseph Kennedy, Sr's three sons were viewed as a new American
dynasty that threatened Israel's plans to expand its borders. The Kennedy
Dynasty would last until 1985 if each son served two terms in the White
House. It is widely known that Joseph Kennedy Sr developed a strong loathing
of Jews from his business dealings with them in finance, Hollywood, and
politics.
http://www.etherzone.com/2004/lang052404.shtml
Zionism supports the creation of a Jewish state in violation of the
teachings of Orthodox Judaism and the Torah. Of course, there are patriotic
American Jews, as well as Christians, who support and are sympathetic to the
state of Israel, but not to the extent of putting such political sympathies
on a level higher than their patriotism and loyalty to the United States.
And increasingly, radical Zionism is growing in aggressiveness and
deadliness. And should anyone marry these three entities as a collaborative
effort or conspiracy, they will be branded as being anti-Semitic. And that
is precisely the purpose of the term.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/stlouis.html
Martin Goldsmith (director of the Relief Committee in Cuba which was
financed by the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee)
Before the St. Louis arrived in Havana, Goldsmith had repeatedly asked the
Joint for additional funds to help the refugees already in Cuba and those
about to arrive. The Joint refused. The local Jewish community donated to
the Relief Committee but felt that the world should be helping. After the
St. Louis arrived, the Joint began to realize the seriousness of the
predicament. They would send two professionals to negotiate - but they would
not arrive until four days later.
Rabbi to Publish Book on Jewish Supremacy
... One is Rabbi Saadya Grama, author of an upcoming book "On the Exalted
Nature of Israel and Understanding ... Written by Rabbi Saadya Grama - an
alumnus of Beth Medrash Govoha, the ...
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http://atheism.about.com/b/a/057831.htm?terms=published+book
http://www.aldeilis.net/zion/zionhol01.html
The first point to note regarding the appropriation of the history of the
Holocaust by Zionist propaganda is that Zionism without anti-Semitism is
impossible. Zionism agrees with the basic tenet of anti-Semitism, namely
that Jews cannot live with non-Jews.
http://www.savethemales.ca/000275.html
The 50-page transcript of his interrogation, dubbed "The Red Symphony," was
not meant to become public. It confirms that the Rothschild-Illuminati
planned to use Communism to establish a world dictatorship of the super
rich.
Ref 3 - (Joe Kennedy) The American Secretary of State, James Forrestal, who
later died in mysterious circumstances, wrote in his Forrestal Diaries
(Cassel and Co., London 1952):
'Have played golf with Joe Kennedy [US Ambassador in Britain, father of
President John Kennedy]. According to him, Chamberlain declared that Zionism
and world Jewry have obliged England to enter the war.'
http://www.heretical.com/mkilliam/wwii.html
http://www.aldeilis.net/zion/zionhol01.html
The realisation of Zionism could only be hurt by resentment of Jews abroad
against the German development. Boycott propaganda - such as is currently
being carried on against Germany in many ways - is in essence unZionist,
because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and build
House of Rothschild whose members have established themselves as hereditary
Princes of Usury.
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/hatred.htm
"There is-deny it who can-a secret influence behind the Government whose
form is never seen, whose name is never breathed, who has access to all the
secrets of state and who arranges the sudden springs of Ministerial
advancement...
Marlon Brando.
http://www.theunjustmedia.com/ben%20stein%20on%20jewish%20media%20control.htm
The problem is always going to be who to defend against. We have a
government in the US who no longer provides information, in fact hides what
it is doing.
http://ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=26467
''Open government'' sites on the World Wide Web provide a wide variety of
information.
http://www.nogw.com/israeliatrocities.html
Below is BARBARIC ignoring and spitting on suffering aimed at a non jew.
Should I repeat some of the snide remarks of your jewish/zionist compatriots
regarding Rachel?
They would suggest that if the young man was well off, and walked around
where he did , he was to blame?
They dont have to, they use their army to shoot, run over and mistreat
physically and sexually helpless children. What can a Palestinian do when
the mighty money contributing yanks cannot protect their citizens.
http://www.thenausea.com/elements/thenotforgotten/rachel/index.html
--
"Every concession leads to aggression"
Putin, 2005
http://www.distanceeddesign.com/rachel/ism/israelis_fire_on_hurndalls.htm
http://www.nogw.com/israeliatrocities.html
http://www.palestinefacts.org/index.php
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/01AA7ECA-7018-447B-A10D-9E4139D4788A.htm
American and Australian shot by Israelis
Chris McGreal talks to the relatives of three British and American victims
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1066817,00.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/16/rafah.death/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1066817,00.html
http://www.thenausea.com/elements/thenotforgotten/rachel/index.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,916299,00.html
http://www.omjp.org/rachelphotos.html
Jon and David Kimche
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n4p29_Weber.html
The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An internal
June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging support for
Zionism by the government and the Party as the best way to encourage
emigration of Germany's Jews to Palestine.
http://www.nowar-paix.ca/nowar/forum/6973
HOW TO KEEP ACADEMICS QUIET
The Real Issue Is Israel's Human Rights Record:A statement by Norman G.
Finkelstein upon publication of Beyond Chutzpah Professor Alan Dershowitz of
Harvard University is currently best known forhis advocacy of the "most
excruciating" torture against terrorist suspectssuch as a "needle being
shoved under the fingernails." The alleged purposeof this torture is to
extract a truthful confession but its realconsequence, as human rights
organizations have pointed out, is to producewhatever statements are
necessary to end the suffering. OF COURSE IF WE ALLOW THESE BARBARIC VIEWS
TO DOMINATE UNDER THE DOCTRINE WHICH APPEARS TO BE IT'S BETTER TO BE JEWISH
THAN GIFTED??
ONE OF THE ACADEMICS ON A CUSHY POSSIBLY FRIENDS SUPPORTED APPOINTMENT
LECTURING STUDENTS.OF COURSE OPPRESSION IS THE NEXT BARBARIC OLD
METHODOLOGY. For 15 monthsDershowitz has applied a variant of this
truth-seeking technique -- lessphysically painful but no less
excruciating -- to prospective publishers ofBeyond Chutzpah, which offers a
critical examination of Israel's humanrights record and Dershowitz's defense
of it. Enlisting one of the mostpowerful law firms in the country after his
personal initiatives provedunsuccessful, Dershowitz has repeatedly
threatened to bankrupt highlyrespected publishers with litigation if they
didn't cancel publication of mybook. He could then proclaim that the
cancellation confirmed the "truth"that Beyond Chutzpah didn't meet scholarly
standards. Dershowitz justified these blackmail tactics on the ground that
BeyondChutzpah libels him. Yet, when I first began to expose his gross
scholarlymisconduct, Dershowitz publicly declared at UCLA (on 21 October
2003) thathe wouldn't respond with a libel action because he believed "so
strongly inthe First Amendment and full freedom of speech." Ironically, just
as he wasthreatening my publishers with expensive and time-consuming
lawsuits,Dershowitz denounced Holocaust denier David Irving, who had sued
DeborahLipstadt for libel, with these words: "Before Irving lost his case
[againstLipstadt], several publishers had refused to issue books critical of
Irving,out of fear of his bringing expensive and time-consuming lawsuits.
That wasa chilling of free speech" (Afterword to Lipstadt's History on
Trial; hisemphasis). My publisher, University of California Press, was
understandably at greatpains to fend off a potential lawsuit by Dershowitz;
for an academicpublisher the associated costs would have been ruinous, to
the point ofmaking certain victory meaningless. On occasion our relationship
becamestrained and at one point it appeared as if we had reached an
impasse.However, through the skillful mediation of Nation magazine senior
editorRoane Carey (who was the freelance editor of Beyond Chutzpah) and
others, asatisfactory compromise was reached that protected the interests of
bothpublisher and author, and, most importantly, preserved the integrity of
thebook. I would like personally to extend my heartfelt thanks to all
whosupported me and the press during this difficult period.
Bush learning the Jewish way.
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/article.php?sid=25493&mode=nested&order=0
http://www.nowar-paix.ca/nowar/forum/6973
In case you missed it. "MISUSING ANTI-SEMITISM, ABUSING HISTORY" by
Professor Norman G. Finkelstein, De Paul University, Chicago. Dr. Norman
Finkelstein is speaking at McGill University next Tuesday, November 8th,
2005.
The Israel Lobby John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html
http://www.tidsskriftcentret.dk/index.php?id=498
Wakeup America. The media is driving us headlong into war based on lies
and misconceptions.
Iran has the largest jewish population of any muslim country. Iran also has
four Jewish members of Parliament who are appointed by the Jewish
community! Iranian jews are deeply opposed to the Zionist state!
http://u2r2h-documents.blogspot.com/2007/03/heinberg-on-us-aggression-against-iran.html#euro
The Origins of the Oil Bourse
The idea of creating a new trading platform in Iran to trade oil and to
create a new oil benchmark crude apparently originated with the former
Director of the London International Petroleum Exchange, Chris Cook. In a
January 21 article in the Asia Times, Cook explained the background.
Describing a letter he had written in 2001 to the Governor of the Iranian
Central Bank, Dr Mohsen Nourbakhsh, Cook explained what he advised then:
'In this letter I pointed out that the structure of global oil markets
massively favors intermediary traders and particularly investment banks, and
that both consumers and producers such as Iran are adversely affected by
this. I recommended that Iran consider as a matter of urgency the creation
of a Middle Eastern energy exchange, and particularly a new Persian Gulf
benchmark oil price.
'It is therefore with wry amusement that I have seen a myth being widely
propagated on the Internet that the genesis of this "Iran bourse" project is
a wish to subvert the US dollar by denominating oil pricing in euros.
'As anyone familiar with the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries
will know, the denomination of oil sales in currencies other than the dollar
is not a new subject, and as anyone familiar with economics will tell you,
the denomination of oil sales is merely a transactional issue: what matters
is in what assets (or, in the case of the United States, liabilities ) these
proceeds are then invested.'
And here we have a guy who if he is not living in Israel boasting about how
little he cares about America and Americans opinions, he should be.
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5342
Stephen Walt's War with Israel
March 20th, 2006 Harvard Professor Stephen Walt and University of Chicago
Professor John Mearsheimer have just published a lengthy diatribe against
what they call the "Israel lobby." Their
article appeared in the London Review of Books, and a longer version has
been released as a Harvard Kennedy School working paper. The two professors
are employed by prestigious universities. But their new paper, a collection
of innuendo, half truths, and outright misrepresentations, fails the test of
academic integrity and honest research
Richard Baehr is the chief political correspondent, and Ed Lasky is the news
editor of The American Thinker
Richard Baehr and Ed Lasky
http://www.tidsskriftcentret.dk/index.php?id=498
Casualties in WW2
Not including the documented 5 million non Jewish in concentration camps
who far out numbered the suspected true number of Jewish victims. And this
is without lies and exaggerations about non jewish cassualities.
Soviet Union 25,568,000
China 11,324,000
Germany 7,060,000
Poland 6,850,000
Japan 1,806,000
Yugoslavia 1,700,000
Rumania 985,000
France 810,000
Austria 525,000
Italy 410,000
Great Britain 388,000
USA 295,000
Holland 250,000
Belgium 85,000
Finland 79,000
Canada 42,000
India 36,000
Australia 29,000
Albania 28,000
Spain 22,000
Bulgaria 21,000
New Zealand 12,000
Norway 10,000
South Africa 9,000
Luxembourg 5,000
Denmark 4,000
TOTAL 58,353,000
The Jewish ghetto police always had the option, she said, of "throwing off
their uniforms and joining the rest of us" - a point that Yitzak Zuckerman,
a leader of the Warsaw ghetto uprising, made in his memoir.
http://www.theexperiment.org/articles.php?news_id=2139
Without Jewish co operation through the zionists the Germans would never
have had the resources to herd the Jews into the various camps. And the
zionists made it impossible for the underground to trust the jews.
Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the
frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat
comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS,
with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian police,
could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not
even know their whereabouts.
http://www.geocities.com/chabaan_2000/safad.HTM
Is The same authors also describe co-operation between Zionist leaders and
Eichmann. It is interesting to note that the extreme right-wing revisionists
only chose wealthy Jews for emigration, whereas other Zionists insisted on
taking only young and healthy Jews. Eichmann helped them to carry out these
plans, in return for which the Zionist Organization paid large sums to the
Nazis. As Kimche says about the Zionist delegates in Germany: They had not
come to Germany to save Jews. That was not their job. When the Nazis began
the systematic murder of Jews in 1941, the Zionists decided neither to
support Jewish resistance in Europe, nor to attack the Nazis, nor to say
anything about the mass liquidation of their fellow Jews. Their sole purpose
was to save certain selected Jews as future settlers in Palestine. They were
not interested in Jews who wished to stay in their home countries and fight
the Nazis.
princeandy
Yes it certainly helps not to read, listen or investigate facts? Where did
this all start? And when?
Oh must have been when the jews were suddenly faced with explaining their
actions during WWII whic cost us all heaps while despite the hardshipe, the
lies concocted for reparations are disgusting, and then persuading
governments to jail anyone that investigated the matter criminal in our
society. No doubt it would be ok in a jewish society. Just look at israel.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10385
At a time, when the international community has turned a blind eye to
Israel's crimes towards the Palestinians, Venezuela has been one of the few
nations who has the courage to openly condemn Israel for its crimes and
express support for the Palestinian people. Most members of the non-aligned
movement professed support for the Palestinian cause during the cold war and
severed relations with Israel as they saw the Palestinian struggle as part
of the same anti colonial struggle that they were a part of. Other
commentators have stated that the non-aligned support for the Palestinian
cause was not formed out of any genuine concern for the Palestinian people
but as a way to align their foreign policy to that of the former Soviet
Union for strategic purposes or to gather favor from several oil producing
Arab nations for their development.
"torresD" <torr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U22R3BPmdAM&feature=related
>
Havent the students heard about the israel disgusting practices that they
claim is democracy??
Nothing to say about that?
Wouldnt be jewish campus's by any chance?
Anyway talking aboutthose people in the mideast , alittle story about our
favorite mideast democracy, so good the bush administration and jewish
backers think they shopuld bring it back to America after inflicting it on
Iraq.
If you have ever been a victim of a Jewish con send us a report.
Jewish Neocons:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKU7O2_yQqg&feature=PlayList&p=6A65B6450497B52E&index=0&playnext=1
Here is a tiny URL for the above one:
http://tinyurl.com/GallowayCutsOff
http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=1358
Israel backs Georgia in Caspian Oil Pipeline Battle with Russia
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report
August 8, 2008
Georgian tanks and infantry, aided by Israeli military advisers,
captured the capital of breakaway South Ossetia, Tskhinvali, early
Friday, Aug. 8, bringing the Georgian-Russian conflict over the province
to a military climax.
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http://thirdworldtraveler.com/Israel/IsraelsTortureBan.html
Israel is the only state in modern times that made it legal.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2347953151064740545&q=Palestine&hl=en
http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/0197/9701007.htm
Of course now that he has admitted to these torture chambers all innocent
victims will receive back their eyes, ears, nose, fingers, finger nails
sinews and other bits that might have been removed in pursuit of truth ,
justice and the American way.
It is unfortunate that some of the innocent victims have lost so much, the
problem being that if they did not know anything they did not have any
information to stop the suffering.
================================================
Jewish Neocons:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKU7O2_yQqg&feature=PlayList&p=6A65B6450497B52E&index=0&playnext=1
Here is a tiny URL for the above one:
http://tinyurl.com/GallowayCutsOff
Israel Judge Promotes Her Court As a Model
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/weather/6797129.htm
An example from our very own israeli democracy.
Israel Judge Promotes Her Court As a Model
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/weather/6797129.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKULTRA
Experiments included administering the drug to CIA employees, military
personnel, doctors, other government agents, prostitutes, mentally ill
patients, and members of the general public in order to study their
reactions, usually without the subject's knowledge.
HOW FAR IS HOWARDS LIBERALS WILLING TO FOLLOW AMERICA? - Spreading Torture
World-Wide
One of the sitting gurus who apparently holds great sway in one of Americas
education system is Professor Alan Dershowitz.
http://www.nowar-paix.ca/nowar/forum/6973
Professor Alan Dershowitz of Harvard University is currently best known
for his advocacy of the "most excruciating" torture against terrorist
suspects
such as a "needle being shoved under the fingernails." The alleged purpose
of this torture is to extract a truthful confession but its real
consequence, as human rights organizations have pointed out, is to produce
whatever statements are necessary to end the suffering.
Israel Judge Promotes Her Court As a Model
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/weather/6797129.htm
Spreading Torture World-Wide
"www.freedomtofascism.com" <tr...@r.us> wrote in message
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> 'Torture Taxi' Connection With Nevada
> http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=6146357
> Las Vegas Now | February 27, 2007
> George Knapp
>
> Human rights activists and foreign governments friendly to the U.S. are
> outraged because of a suspected kidnapping operation being run by American
> intelligence agencies.
>
> People have been snatched in broad daylight and then whisked to secret
> prisons, possibly for torture. The planes used in this controversial
> operation are often seen in Las Vegas, but the connection goes much
deeper.
>
> The I-Team first reported on the so-called "torture taxis" in 2006 and has
> spotted these planes coming in and out of Las Vegas on several occasions.
>
> The aircraft are owned by shell companies set up by unknown agencies,
quite
> possibly the Central Intelligence Agency. Some of the companies were
created
> in Nevada, using phony names and non-existent persons. So far, Nevada
> officials don't see it as a problem or a concern.
>
> The images are all too familiar -- prisoners being mistreated, others held
> indefinitely without charges. Even more damaging to America's image have
> been allegations of torture carried out at secret prisons by American
agents
> or surrogates.
>
> In a way, the legal justification for the torture program has roots in
> Nevada, since a Nevada lawyer named Jay Bybee, while working for the Bush
> administration, wrote the legal brief defending such policies.
>
> It's not hypothetical. Some of the very same planes that have been used in
> the kidnapping and transport of suspected terrorists to dark, unknown
places
> fly in and out of Las Vegas on a regular basis. The I-Team has recorded
> their arrivals. However, we cannot say what they're doing here, but are
> pretty sure what they've been used for elsewhere.
>
> Trevor Paglen, of the University of California, said, "It's indisputable
at
> this point that the United States has been kidnapping people around the
> world, disappearing them, holding them incommunicado, torturing them. It's
> beyond dispute."
>
> Trevor Paglen is the co-author of Torture Taxi, a book about the so-called
> rendition planes and the torture program. The planes in question are owned
> by private companies with clearance to land at any U.S. military base in
the
> world. Track the planes and you can figure out where the secret prisons
are
> located, often in countries with dismal human rights records.
>
> Such information has outraged European governments. Example: Khaled
> al-Masri, a German national, was vacationing in Macedonia when he was
> grabbed by masked men, flown to Afghanistan, and tortured for five months
> until his captors realized they had the wrong guy. Al-Masri is now suing
the
> U.S. Government, along with a Reno company, Keeler and Tate, which owns
the
> plane suspected of transporting Al-Masri to Kabul.
>
> From all indications, the firm is merely a shell, a false front created by
> an intelligence agency. The only officer listed is one Tyler Edward Tate,
a
> person who seemingly does not exist. The lawyer who incorporated the
company
> is Steven Petersen, who has declined all requests for comment and whom the
> I-Team discovered, is hard to find, even at his office.
>
> Petersen's office staff didn't know where he was, how to reach him, or
when
> he might return. The I-Team can't find any record of Tyler Tate other than
> what's filed with Nevada's Secretary of State. It's a felony to file false
> information with that office, although no one there seems too concerned.
The
> office has known for more than a year that Keeler and Tate is most likely
a
> phony front. But a deputy told the I-Team there's, quote, "nothing they
can
> do until a formal complaint is filed by someone."
>
> In other parts of the country -- in North Carolina and Portland, Oregon,
for
> example -- the lawyers who have filed papers for other fictitious airlines
> linked to the torture program are being investigated by the state bar. Not
> so in Nevada.
>
> On Scott Petersen's door is another name familiar in Nevada -- Laxalt.
Peter
> Laxalt is the brother of former governor and U.S. Senator Paul Laxalt, a
> well-connected Washington lobbyist. The lobby directory previously listed
> the Paul Laxalt Group as sharing the same suite with Steven Petersen. But,
> as soon as calls were made about the connection, the Laxalt name was
removed
> from the directory.
>
> Trevor Paglen said, "We called the D.C. office. The Laxalt Group denied
even
> having an office in Reno. Their name was on the building directly. We
called
> the secretary and they told us there was a West Coast office of the group
in
> that building."
>
> This is not a dead end. European nations have filed formal criminal
charges
> against numerous American intelligence agents. Khaled El-Masri's lawsuit
is
> moving forward and he has the American Civil Liberties Union helping him.
At
> some point, that suit could force some answers about the mysterious Keeler
> and Tate in Reno. And, investigations are underway in two states into the
> lawyers who assisted in setting up the phony companies.
>
> One other point, since the I-Team's first report last year about tracking
> these planes as they fly to Las Vegas, steps have been taken to hide their
> arrivals and departures.
"dl" <lol...@msn.com> wrote in message
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Ø December 15, 2007
>
> The USG Open Source Center translates an interview in the Spanish
> newspaper El Mundo with Damien Corsetti, a former private in the US
> army who served as an interrogator and was charged with crimes. He
> says he witnessed torture but did not commit it himself. He also says
> that most of the individuals he interrogated had nothing to do with al-
> Qaeda or the Taliban. Many of the practices Corsetti says he witnessed
> are already illegal. Others would be banned by a new bill passed by
> the House of Representatives, which George W. Bush has threatened to
> veto. The bill would place the Central Intelligence Agency under the
> same rules as obtain for the US military and would disallow
> waterboarding, mock executions, and sexual humiliation. I repeat, Bush
> has pledged to veto this legislation.
>
> 'Former US interrogator recounts torture cases in Afghanistan and Iraq
> El Mundo (Internet Version-WWW)
> Monday, December 10, 2007 . . .
> Document Type: OSC Translated Text . . .
> http://uruknet.info/?p=m39237&s1=h1
>
> Former US interrogator recounts torture cases in Afghanistan and Iraq
>
> Discharged US army private Damien Corsetti has described the "morally
> unacceptable" cases of physical and psychological torture he says he
> witnessed as an interrogator at the prisons of Bagram in Afghanistan
> and Abu-Ghurayb in Iraq. Speaking in an interview with a Spanish
> paper, he said the vast majority of the individuals he questioned in
> the course of his duties "had nothing to do with either the Taleban or
> Al-Qa'idah" and that while he never took part in acts of abuse, many
> were tortured "to make them suffer, not to get information out of
> them". The following is the text of the report on the interview with
> Corsetti published by the Spanish popular liberal newspaper El Mundo
> website on 10 December; subheading as published:
>
> Fairfax (Virginia): Damien Corsetti looks at me with his small eyes
> and says: "Look, they leave us alone in this room, they give me a roll
> of duct tape to tie you to the chair, I turn off the light and in five
> hours you sign a piece of paper for me saying that you're Usamah Bin-
> Ladin".
>
> It is a Thursday night. Damien Corsetti - who, according to The New
> York Times was nicknamed "The King of Torture" and "The Monster" by
> his colleagues at Bagram prison, in Afghanistan - is sitting down
> having a glass of wine in a French restaurant in Fairfax, on the
> outskirts of Washington. Four days ago, this US private arrived on the
> outskirts of Washington from North Carolina, where he had been living
> since September 2006, when he was discharged from the army following a
> trial in which he was found not guilty of the charges of dereliction
> of duty, maltreatment, assault and performing indecent acts with
> prisoners at Bagram.
>
> Now, Corsetti - who was also under investigation in the Abu-Ghurayb
> torture case - only wants to put his life "in order". It is a
> difficult task. Because first he will have to forget the torture to
> which he says he was a witness in Afghanistan of prisoners such as Al-
> Qa'idah leader Omar al-Faruq. "The cries, the smells, the sounds are
> with me. They are things that stay with you forever", he recalls.
>
> Corsetti arrived in Afghanistan on 29 July 2002. He was a military
> intelligence soldier, not an interrogator. "But the army needed
> reliable interrogators, because most interrogators do not meet
> security requirements. They are not reliable. So we arrived there". A
> five-hour course in Afghanistan and, at 22, Corsetti began trying to
> extract information from the prisoners in the jail - prisoners who, in
> his opinion, "in 98 per cent of cases had nothing to do with either
> the Taleban or Al-Qa'idah".
>
> That is how Corsetti found himself interrogating prisoners at the
> jail. Many of them were people who had nothing to do with (George W.)
> Bush's war on terror, like his first prisoner, whose name he still
> remembers: Khan Zara. "He was a peasant and grew opium. But he was
> there three months until he told us. Do you know how I found out.
> Because of his hands. His hands were full of calluses. Those are not
> the hands of a terrorist".
>
> Other prisoners include a farmer who had put mines on his land to kill
> his neighbour, with who he had a long-standing family dispute, and an
> Afghan who had bombs in his house to fish in the river. They were
> people like Dilawar, a taxi driver detained in 2002 who had nothing to
> do with the Taleban and who died after four days of beatings from US
> soldiers.
>
> Because Bagram is a very tough prison. "Each prisoner has in his cell
> a carpet measuring 1.2 m by 2.5 m. And they spend 23 hours a day sat
> on it, in silence. If they speak, they are chained to the ceiling for
> 20 minutes and black visors are put on them so they can't see and
> protectors are put on their ears so they can't hear. They are taken
> down to the basement once a week, in groups of five or six, to shower
> them. It's done to drive them crazy. I almost went crazy", recalls
> Corsetti. Apart from those normal cells, in the basement of the prison
> there are six isolation cells, plus two rooms for who the former
> soldier describes as "special guests".
>
> But Bagram has an underworld in which the CIA tortures the leaders of
> Al-Qa'idah. "One day I went to an interrogation session and as soon as
> I arrived I knew that it was not a normal case. There were civilians,
> among them a doctor and a psychiatrist. The prisoner was called Omar
> al-Faruq, an Al-Qa'idah leader in Asia who had been brought to the
> prison by one of those agencies", recalls Corsetti. "I don't want to
> go into details because it could be very negative for my country, but
> he was brutally beaten - daily. And tortured by other methods. He was
> a bad man, but he didn't deserve that". Al-Faruq escaped from Bagram
> in action which, according to some, was tolerated by the USA and was
> killed in April 2006 by the British in the Iraqi city of Basra.
>
> Corsetti says that he never took part in the torture. "My sole job was
> to sit there and make sure the prisoner didn't die. But there were
> several times when I thought they were about to die, when they were
> interrogated by those people who have no name and who work for no-one
> in particular. It's incredible what a human being can take". A
> resistance similar to that of the memory of those torture sessions.
> Because Corsetti, a veteran of two wars, says: "I have seen people die
> in combat. I shot at people. That is not as bad as seeing someone
> tortured. Al-Faruq looked at me while they tortured him and I have
> that look in my head. And the cries, the smells, the sounds, they are
> with me all the time. It is something I can't take in. The cries of
> the prisoners calling for their relatives, their mother. I remember
> one who called for God, for Allah, all the time. I have those cries
> here, inside my head".
>
> "In Abu-Ghurayb and Bagram they were tortured to make them suffer, not
> to get information out of them". And the fact is that at times the
> torture had no other goal that "to punish them for being terrorists.
> They tortured them and didn't ask them anything". That is the case of
> the practice known as "the submarine": to simulate the drowning of the
> prisoner. "They have them hooded and they pour water on them. That
> makes it very difficult to breath. I think you can't die with the
> submarine. I certainly never saw anyone die. However, they do cough
> like crazy because they are totally submerged in water and that gets
> on their lungs. Perhaps what it can give you is serious pneumonia".
> The civilians who took part in the interrogations used the submarine
> whenever they wanted. They gave it to them for five or 10 minutes and
> didn't ask anything".
>
> Other torture included using extreme cold and heat. "I remember one of
> my prisoners trembling with cold. His teeth wouldn't stop chattering.
> I put a blanket on him and then another, and another, and his teeth
> never stopped chattering, never stopped. You could see that man was
> going to die of hypothermia. But the doctors are there so that they
> don't die, so as to be able to torture them one more day". At other
> times, "they put them under blinding lights that worked mechanically,
> giving out flashes".
>
> "They are going to kill your children"
>
> An important subject was that of psychological torture, administered
> by psychiatrists. "They tell them they are going to kill their
> children, rape their wives. And you see on their faces, in their eyes,
> the terror that that causes them. Because, of course, we know all
> about those people. We know the names of their children, where they
> live - we show them satellite photos of their houses. It is worse than
> any torture. That is not morally acceptable under any circumstances.
> Not even with the worst terrorist in the world", says Corsetti, before
> adding: "Sometimes, we put one of our women (female US military
> personnel) in burqas and we made them walk through the interrogation
> rooms and we told them: 'That is your wife'. And the prisoner believed
> it. Why wouldn't they! We had those people going without sleep for a
> whole week. After two or three days with no sleep, you believe
> anything. In fact, it was a problem. The interpreters couldn't
> understand what they were saying. The prisoners were having
> hallucinations. Because, of course, this is not like if you or me go
> three days without sleep when we're partying. I've gone five days
> without sleep when I've been partying. But this is different. You're
> in a cell where they let you sleep only a quarter of an hour every now
> and then. With no contact with the outside world. Without seeing
> sunlight. Like that, a days seems like a week. Your mental capacity is
> destroyed".
>
> In the opinion of Corsetti, the only thing his experience as an
> interrogator taught him "is that torture doesn't work. One thing is
> losing your temper and punching a prisoner, another is to commit these
> acts of brutality. In Bagram we managed to find out about an Al-
> Qa'idah plan to blow up dozens of oil tankers across the world. We
> smashed the plot so well that they only managed to attack one, the
> French oil tanker Limburgh, in Yemen in October 2002. And we managed
> to get a guy to tell us without laying a finger on him".
>
> (Description of Source: Madrid El Mundo (Internet Version-WWW) in
> Spanish -- independent national daily) '
>
http://iamthewitness.com/audio/TFC.2007.12.14.Fri.Prothink.mp3
http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=1358
Israel backs Georgia in Caspian Oil Pipeline Battle with Russia
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report
August 8, 2008
Georgian tanks and infantry, aided by Israeli military advisers,
captured the capital of breakaway South Ossetia, Tskhinvali, early
Friday, Aug. 8, bringing the Georgian-Russian conflict over the province
to a military climax.
--
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strikebreaking
If people go on strike simply because they cannot put up with the power for
perversions and cruel demands from employees that the government has handed
the employers, the Christian Evangelical Church/s has given their stamp of
approval for all the following?
These people rose up as one not because of God, but because of the treatment
by God's chosen people in not following God's laws. Secular laws.
On that day, - wrote John Kifner in The New York Times, - the vast army of
Arab labourers who wait on tables, pick vegetables, haul garbage, lay bricks
and perform virtually all Israel's menial work, stayed home.
Is it part of the Christian Evangelical Church/s beliefs that this is the
actions God would approve in the case of strike or protest? Shooting
selectively?
And this statement of Rabin has never been criticised or questioned by the
Christian Evangelical Church/s? Yeah or any other Christian institution for
that matter?
And as far as anybody can ascertain, is still fully accepted by the Israel
government and the churches have never raised an objection to this as a
legitimate action against protestors?
The San Francisco Examiner cited Rabin as openly advocating assassination.
"They can shoot to hit leaders of disorder," Rabin said in defence of the
army's practice of using marksmen with high-powered .22-caliber rifles to
shoot indiscriminately at Palestinian youth
The modern churches and the Christian Evangelical Church/s apparently think
that this is God's law that was imposed, the victims not the Israeli
government's inhuman and ungodly persecution at fault, and the ignoring
of god's law in the process?
Well we can understand the Catholic Church, they always blamed the victims
( kids) , and the Christian Evangelical Church/s apparently contributes to
that type thinking?
THE JERUSALEM POST CORRESPONDENT HIRSH GOODMAN - they have not received any
terrorist training, nor are they members of a terrorist organization. Rather
they are
members of that Palestinian generation that grew up knowing nothing but
occupation
All these churches and the Christian Evangelical Church/s apparently
support this as a fair and equitable application of God's law against 12
year olds? And fully supports these actions? Well they have not publicly
widely opposed this?
12-YEAR OLDS IS OK FOR JEWS?? Still perfectly acceptable practice in Israel
today.
This type of government is accepted as the norm to this day, and mind you
Rabin was supposed to be one of the good guys, Yeah how bad can it get?
And does any of the christian churches representatives allowed to see the
christians they pick up in these sweeps, dead or alive, or dont they even
bother?
Rabin ordered house-to-house searches, first for young men and later for
anyone of whom an example might be made. By December 27, over 2,500
Palestinians were seized, many of them as YOUNG AS TWELVE ; by the end of
January the number reached 4,000 and was rising
Is this some sort of cultural difference that God apparently accepts from
Jewish persons backed by the Christian Evangelical Church/s and our other
Christian institutions?
The protestant and catholic churches in Ireland and England certainly did
not advocate this, nor did any politician publicly endorse breaking the
culprits hands, and the Irish kids were throwing Molotov cocktails in
exactly the same situation?
Rabin ordered house-to-house searches, first for young men and later for
anyone of whom an example might be made. By December 27, over 2,500
Palestinians were seized, many of them as YOUNG AS TWELVE ; by the end of
January the number reached 4,000 and was rising
The first priority is to use force, might, beatings. [This] is considered
more effective than detention ... [because] he may then resume stoning
soldiers. But if troops break his hand, he won't be able to throw stones
The protestant and catholic churches in Ireland and England certainly did
not advocate this, nor did any politician publicly endorse this type of
behaviour as God's law given to the chosen people? God would approve
according to the Christian Evangelical Church/s and our other Christian
instructions? And the Zionist supporters say that is ok? Zionist supporters
cheer them on?
And this fits neatly into the type of law that God would approve according
to the Christian Evangelical Church/s and our other Christian instructions?
No fear of Jews standing up against cruelty and sadism as the Christians DID
again and again.
The Testimony of a Rescuer
http://fcit.coedu.usf.edu/holocaust/people/rescuer.htm
http://www.auschwitz.dk/docu/Default.htm
http://www.auschwitz.dk/Denmark.htm
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/r/ftp.py?people/r/roberts.jeff/1996/roberts.1096
http://www.resistance.com/Hayward/hay2.html
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/r/ftp.py?people/r/roberts.jeff/1996/roberts.1096
http://www.mafhoum.com/press2/74P51.htm
They entered the house like animals, shouting," the 22-year old student at
Bir Zeit University said. "They took us from the house, kicking us in the
head, beating us, all the soldiers with their rifle butts."
This action by soldiers is not preverted, considered normal by who?
AND WHO IS SURPRISED THAT THEY ARMED THEMSELVES??
By April 1988 over 150 Palestinians had died. The Israeli government had
admitted to the arrest of 2,000 people, bringing the acknowledged total to
4,000. The real figure was far higher.
Sources in the West Bank and Gaza established that the number detained by
the weekend of March 27 had exceeded 13,000. Bassam Shaka'a, deposed Mayor
of Nablus, placed the total held solely in a hastily constructed barbed-wire
encampment at Dhariyah at 10,000.
And under these conditions people have no chance of being molested? Children
and parents would complain loudly about paedophilia, rape, forced incest,
sadistic and perverted against them? Of course and the church, there are
christians in this crowd that your jewish brothers dont like to talk about,
did the church race to check the wellbeing of there followers, were they
even allowed? God would approve according to the Christian Evangelical
Church/s led by G.Bush and our other Christian institutions?
In the Balata camp outside Nablus, and in the Casbah - the old quarter -
l, 000 people were arrested in a period of 48 hours. The discovery of people
in ditches in the fields - shot in the back or with their heads caved in -
has been reported from villages throughout the West Bank and Gaza
These actions are not on their own not considered perverted actions by the
Israeli army, that is practised till today, so to the Christian Evangelical
Church/s and our other Christian instutions feel this is God's law and are
sitting back without any criticism?
This is normal behaviour not breaking God's law and religious teachings? The
Christian Evangelical Church/s g.Bush and our other Christian institutions
feel this is God's law and is sitting back without any criticism?
Army units go from house to house pulling youths from their beds at 3 a.m.
As the buses fill, the soldiers beat the youths viciously around the head,
shins, groin and back. Shrieks fill the air.
These so called soldiers arent sick perverted human beings by these very
actions alone.And is this a sign of closet paedophilia or simply a sadistic
type of paedophilia or sadism that we feel God would overlook?
TWO OF THE CHILDREN, AGES 9 AND 11 , WERE TAKEN BY THE SOLDIERS IN THEIR
night clothes, frog-marched in the streets and beaten as they were forced by
the jeering soldiers to clear debris.
And of course no chance of rape, paedophilia or sexual perversions, they
have so many avenues to complain, the churh is ensuring that? The Christian
Evangelical Church/s and our other Christian institutions feel this is God's
law and are ensuring support at least for the christians? Or sitting back
without any criticism?
And god's chosen have not shifted way out of the path one would consider the
way of God and are still the chosen people by the judgement of the Christian
Evangelical Church/s and our other Christian institutions?
The Good Samaritan story has been declared redundant apparently by the
Christian Evangelical Church/s and our other Christian institutions feel
this is God's law and are sitting back without any criticism?
NEW YORK TIMES
Fleets of helicopters fly over Nablus at night dropping a dense, green toxic
gas over the city. The smell pervades every house. Armed units fire
canisters of the substance into houses at random. Doctors at Ittihad
Hospital reported several deaths and severe lung injuries from this as-yet
unidentified asphyxiating chemical, totally distinct from tear gas.
Among the victims was the grandmother of the Da'as family and the
100-year-old father of noted Nablus attorney Mohammad Irshaid. Soldiers had
entered the house at 2 a.m., smashing furniture and firing a canister of the
dreaded green gas while preventing the family from leaving.
Simultaneously, the Israeli army targeted the hospitals. Army trucks rammed
ambulances and blocked them from reaching the homes of those overcome by the
gas. Soldiers entered the Ittihad Hospital in Nablus numerous times,
arresting the wounded and those waiting to give blood to family members.
EVEN THE OPERATING THEATRE WAS INVADED WHILE SURGEONS WERE OPERATING ON
PATIENTS.
DOCTORS WERE BEATEN AND EQUIPMENT SMASHED. FAMILY MEMBERS WERE PREVENTED
FROM ENTERING THE HOSPITAL AND THE CARS OF DOCTORS AND NURSES WERE DESTROYED
BY SOLDIERS.
Meanwhile, all of Nablus was paralysed by a total strike. All the streets in
every quarter of the city were without open shops or business activity. As
gas permeated the city, cries and chants filled the night.
Gas canisters recovered by Bassam Shaka'a, Yousef al-Masri [chief of Ittihad
Hospital] and American author Alfred Lilienthal bear the markings "560 cs.
Federal Lab. Saltsburg, Pa. USA MK2 1988." Biochemists are studying their
properties as casualties mount.
JOHN KIFNER reported on April 4 that "Hundreds of refugees were treated in
United Nations clinics for gas inhalation." On April 15, Kifner wrote,
"...gas has been thrown inside homes, clinics and schools where the effects
are particularly severe."
This is still going on today, as the Christian Evangelical Church/s and our
other Christian institutions do not find this as going outside the teachings
and laws of God?
And why are we supporting these people in this mad uncontrolled frenzy of
extreme ill treatment?
In the case of Rachel corrie
http://www.thenausea.com/elements/thenotforgotten/rachel/index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/16/rafah.death/
As far as I am aware from the numerous Jewish organisations that claim to
represent opposition to these ungodly and inhuman practices, was there not
one beside Rachel Corrie? Because if you were not beside her, clearly you
were all behind the bulldozer.
I have not heard of one lawyer acting against the Israeli government in
support of her civil rights in that country overflowing with lawyers?
And the Christian Evangelical Church/s and our other Christian institutions
are still of the opinion that this is perfectly proper action for the chosen
people and not in contravention of god's teachings.
And God is going to back you whatever you do? Or do you people believe you
do not have to take notice of God, nor do you need his backing
Australian Broadcasting Corporation
TV PROGRAM TRANSCRIPT
LOCATION: http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2004/s1105337.htm
Broadcast: 10/05/2004
Confidentiality clause leaves abuse unreported: Robertson
Reporter: Tony Jones
*
TONY JONES: Well, joining us now from London is UN judge and human
rights lawyer Geoffrey Robertson QC.
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2004/s1105337.htm
A religion by it's corrupted holy book the Talmud, which rants aginst
christians and any other non jew against all the old testament guidance
which they have discarded for this criminal orientated book that was
critocized br Christ.
> The Scribes claim the Talmud is partly a collection of traditions
> Moses gave them in oral form. These had not yet been written
> down in Jesus time. Christ condemned the traditions of the Mishnah
> (early Talmud) and those who taught it (Scribes and Pharisees),
> because it nullified Biblical teachings.
>
> THE FAMOUS WARNING OF OUR LORD ABOUT THE TRADITION THAT VOIDS
> SCRIPTURE (CF. MARK 7:13), WHICH IS REGULARLY USED AGAINST
> CATHOLICISM BY PROTESTANTS, IS ACTUALLY A DIRECT REFERENCE TO
> THE TALMUD OR MORE PROPERLY, THE FORERUNNER OF THE FIRST PART
> OF IT, THE MISHNAH, WHICH EXISTED IN ORAL FORM DURING CHRIST*S
> LIFETIME, BEFORE BEING COMMITTED TO WRITING. ALL OF MARK CHAPTER 7,
> FROM VERSE ONE THROUGH THIRTEEN, REPRESENTS OUR LORD*S POINTED
> CONDEMNATION OF THE MISHNAH.
>
> Unfortunately, due to the abysmal ignorance of our day, the widespread
> Christian notion is that the Old Testament is the supreme book of
> Judaism.
> But this is not so. The Pharisees teach for doctrine the commandments
> of rabbis, not God; the Talmudic commentary on the Bible is their
> supreme law and not the Bible itself. That commentary does indeed,
> as Jesus said, void the laws of God, not uphold them. As a reader
> of Talmud (in the rabbinically authorized Soncino version) I know
> this to be true.
>
> There is a small Jewish sect which makes considerable effort to eschew
> Talmud and adhere to the Old Testament alone. These are the Karaites,
> a most hated and severely persecuted group within Judaism.
> Some Teachings of the Talmud Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the
> rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot
> excrement in hell.
>
> Moed Kattan 17a . If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a
> city where he is not known and do the evil there.
>
> Non-Jews are Not Human Baba Mezia 114a-114b. Only Jews are human
> ("Only ye are designated men"). Also see Kerithoth 6b under the sub-head,
> "Oil of Anointing" and Berakoth 58a in which Gentile women are
> designated animals ("she-asses").
>
> Jews are Divine Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (Gentile) hits a Jew, the
> Gentile must be killed. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God.
>
> O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a Gentile
> ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.
>
> Jews Have Superior Legal Status Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite
> gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a
> Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."
>
> Jews May Steal from Non-Jews Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object
> lost by a Gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned.
> (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).
>
> Sanhedrin 76a . God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to
> an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article
> to a Cuthean..."
>
> Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a
> Gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals
> from a Gentile he may keep.
>
> Baba Kamma 37b. Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God
> has "exposed their money to Israel."
>
> Jews May Lie to Non-Jews Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies
> ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.
>
> Non-Jewish Children Sub-Human Yebamoth 98a. All Gentile children
> are animals.
>
> Abodah Zarah 36b . Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from
> birth.
>
> Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.
>
> Abodah Zarah 67b . "The vessels of Gentiles, do they not impart a
> worsened flavor to the food cooked in them?"
> Sanhedrin 43a . Jesus deserved execution: "On the eve of the Passover,
> Yeshu was hanged...Do you suppose that he was one for whom a defense
> could be made? Was he not a Mesith (enticer)?"
>
> Attacks Christians and their Books Rosh Hashanah 17a . Christians
> ("minim") and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be
> punished there for all generations (see footnote #11 for the definition
> of minim).
>
> Sanhedrin 90a . Those who read the New Testament (uncanonical books,
> see footnote #9) will have no portion in the world to come.
>
> Shabbath 116a (p. 569). Jews must destroy the books of the Christians,
> i.e. the New Testament. See footnote #6.
>
> Israel Shahak reports that the Zionists burned hundreds of New Testament
> books in Occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish History,
> Jewish Religion, p. 21).
ISRAEL SHAHAK REPORTS THAT THE ZIONISTS BURNED HUNDREDS OF NEW TESTAMENT
BOOKS IN OCCUPIED PALESTINE ON MARCH 23, 1980 (CF. JEWISH HISTORY, JEWISH
RELIGION, P. 21).
>
> Sick and Insane Teachings Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should
> take dust that lies within the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix it with
> honey and eat it.
>
> Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a holy
> way is given.
>
> Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the
> animals in the Garden of Eden.
>
> Yebamoth 63a . Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.
>
> Sanhedrin 55b . A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically,
> three years "and a day" old).
>
> Sanhedrin 54b . A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child
> is less than nine years old.
>
> Kethuboth 11b . "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little
> girl it is nothing."
>
> Yebamoth 59b . A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible
> to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also
> eligible to marry a Jewish priest.
>
> Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world that
> Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with.
>
> Hagigah 27a . States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.
>
> Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits
> the rabbi won the debate.
>
> Gittin 70a . The Rabbis taught: "On coming from a privy (outdoor
> toilet) a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited
> long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is
> with him for that time; if he does, his children will be epileptic."
>
> Toilet and excrement obsessions are laced throughout Talmud and were
> exhibited in Spielberg*s Schindlers List where the Hollywood director
> shows a Jewish child jumping through a toilet seat in an outhouse and
> falling into a pool of liquefied excrement. There the child meets two
> other Jewish children partially immersed who inform the interloper
> that this cesspool is their hiding spot exclusively and that he must
> find his own. These are the kind of disgusting and morbid, psychotic
> images which Jewish kids are exposed to constantly in the cinematic
> liturgy of Holocaustianity and for that matter, in the Talmud as well.
> Tall Tales of a Roman Holocaust Here are two early "Holocaust" tales
> from the Talmud: Gittin 57b . Claims that four billion Jews were killed by
> the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish
> children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive
>
> by the Romans. (Ancient demography indicates that there were not
> 16 million Jews in the entire world at that time, much less 16 million
> Jewish children or four billion Jews).
>
> A Revealing Admission Abodah Zarah 70a . The question was asked
> of the rabbi whether some wine stolen in Pumbeditha might be used
> or if it was defiled, due to the fact that the thieves might have been
> Gentiles (a Gentile touching wine would make the wine unclean).
> The rabbi says not to worry, that the wine is permissible for Jewish
> use because the majority of the thieves in Pumbeditha, the place
> where the wine was stolen, are Jews
>
> Pharisaic Rituals Erubin 21b (p. 150). "Rabbi Akiba said to him,
> "Give me some water to wash my hands." "It will not suffice for
> drinking," the other complained, "will it suffice for washing your
> hands?" "What can I do? the former replied, "when for neglecting
> the words of the Rabbis one deserves death? It is better that I
> myself should die than that I transgress against the opinion of
> my colleagues."[This is the ritual hand washing condemned by
> Jesus in Matthew 15: 1-9].
>
> "Great Rabbi" Deceives A Woman Kallah 51a (Soncino Minor Tractates).
> Teaches that God approves of rabbis who lie: "The elders were once
> sitting in the gate when two young lads passed by; one covered his
> head and the other uncovered his head. Of him who uncovered his
> head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard. Rabbi Joshua
> remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child conceived during
> a womans menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both a
> bastard and a son of a niddah. "They said, "What induced you
> to contradict the opinion of your colleagues?" He replied, "I will
> prove it concerning him." He went to the lads mother and found
> her sitting in the market selling beans. "He said to her, "My
> daughter, if you will answer the question I will put to you,
> I will bring you to the world to come." (eternal life). She said
> to him, "Swear it to me."
> Rabbi Akiba, "taking the oath with his lips but annulling it in his
> heart," said to her, "What is the status of your son?" She replied,
> "When I entered the bridal chamber I was niddah (menstruating)
> and my husband kept away from me; but my best man had
> intercourse with me and this son was born to me." Consequently
> the child was both a bastard and the son of a niddah. It was declared,
> "..Blessed be the God of Israel Who Revealed His Secret to Rabbi
> Akiba..."
>
> This original Talmud passage has been concealed in translation. The
> Jewish Encyclopedia states that, "...in the various versions the
> reading has been altered, The best among the Egyptians being generally
> substituted."
> In the Soncino version: "the best of the heathens" (Minor Tractates,
> Soferim 41a-b]. Israelis annually take part in a national pilgrimage
> to the grave of Simon ben Yohai, to honor this rabbi who advocated the
> extermination of non-Jews.("Jewish Press" of June 9, 1989, p. 56B).
>
> On Purim, Feb. 25, 1994, Israeli army officer Baruch Goldstein, an
> orthodox Jew from Brooklyn, massacred 40 Palestinian civilians, including
> children, while they knelt in prayer in a mosque. Goldstein was a disciple
> of the late Rabbi Kahane who has stated that his view of Arabs as "dogs"
> is "from the Talmud." (Cf. CBS "60 Minutes", "Kahane").
>
> Univ. of Jerusalem Prof. Ehud Sprinzak described Kahane and Goldsteins
> philosophy: "They believe it's God's will that they commit violence
> against "goyim," a Hebrew term for non-Jews." (NY Daily News, Feb. 26,
> 1994,p. 5).
>
> Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg declared, "We have to recognize that Jewish
> blood and the blood of a goy are not the same thing." (NY Times, June 6,
> 1989, p.5).
> Rabbi Yaacov Perrin says, "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish
> fingernail."(NY Daily News, Feb. 28, 1994, p.6).
>
> Judeo-Christian Response to Talmud
> Neither the "modern" popes or the modern preachers of Protestantism,
> have ever insisted that the rabbis of Judaism repudiate or condemn
> the Talmud. On the contrary, the heads of "Judeo-Churchianity" have
> urged the followers of Christ to obey, honor and support the followers
> of the Talmud. Therefore, it should be obvious that "Judeo-Churchianity"
> is the worst betrayer of Jesus Christ on Earth today.
>
THE UTTERLY RIDICULOUS IRRELEVANT STATEMENTS OF AN ISRAELI/JEWISH PATRIOT
WHO CARES NOTHING FOR THE USA TRYING TO TURN ATTENTION AWAY FROM THE
DISTORTION OF AMERICAN SOLDIERS LIVES AND MORALS FIGHTING AN UNPRINCIPLED
JEWISHWAR FOR JEWISH/ISRAELI GAIN IN LAND AND MONEY
SO TO RETURN TO WHAT THIS GIGGLING JEW/JEWISH SUPPORTER/ISRAELI WANTS TO
RIDICULE AND LAUGH AT.
NOTHINGFRIENDLY HERE THE CORRUPTION OF OUR YOUTH AND ARMED FORCES.
http://www.madcowprod.com/01192007.html
How you are corrupting the American army at the moment.
NOW THEY HAVE America participating?
http://www.zonaeuropa.com/20040504_1.htm
"Mirelle" <mirell...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Ø According to a political appointee within the Bush administration and
> U.S. intelligence sources, the interrogators at Abu Ghraib included a
> number of Arabic-speaking Israelis who also helped U.S. interrogators
> develop the "R2I" (Resistance to Interrogation) techniques. Many of
> the torture methods were developed by the Israelis over many years of
> interrogating Arab prisoners on the occupied West Bank and in Israel
> itself.
>
> http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen05102004.html
>
> Mirelle
You are old, you still around? thought you'd died. ChoKed up AND DIED OF
REMORSE on the lies you keep feeding anyone who befriends you to cover up
for your nazi friends in israel and those zionist friends who sold families
and children to Germans for able bodied israelis??And you know there was no
gassing policy?? But check that out at the bottom.
And how you have corrupted America with that closet jew bush.
http://www.madcowprod.com/01192007.html
Lest you think there must be some truth to the alleged Treblinka holocaust
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> Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and
have
> blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid
> Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's
chief
> interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist.
>
> In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those
> holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of
> Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next
> purges. In a fascinating lecture at a Tel Aviv University convention this
> week, Dr. Halfin described the waves of soviet terror as a "carnival of
mass
> murder," "fantasy of purges", and "essianism of evil." Turns out that Jews
> too, when they become captivated by messianic ideology, can become great
> murderers, among the greatest
> known by modern history.
>
> The Jews active in official communist terror apparatuses (In the
> Soviet Union and abroad) and who at times led them, did not do this,
> obviously, as Jews, but rather, as Stalinists, communists, and "Soviet
> people." Therefore, we find it easy to ignore their origin and "play
dumb":
> What do we have to do with them? But let's not forget them. My
> own view is different. I find it unacceptable that a person will be
> considered a member of the Jewish people when he does great things, but
not
> considered part of our people when he does amazingly despicable things.
>
> Even if we deny it, we cannot escape the Jewishness of "our hangmen," who
> served the Red Terror with loyalty and dedication from its establishment.
> After all, others will always remind us of their origin.
In article <1189752111.5...@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
r9htz...@mangusta.e4ward.com says...
>
1290 expulsion from england.doc
http://www.heretical.org/British/jews1290.html
Although contemporary Jewish authors deny such things as ritual murder, some
admit that there may have been some unpleasant Jews around at the time.
1255, Lincoln. A boy called Hugh was kidnapped by the Jews and crucified and
tortured in hatred of Jesus Christ. The boy's mother found the body in a
well on the premises of a Jew called Jopin or Copinus. This Jew, promised by
the judge his life if he confessed, did so, and 91 Jews were arrested;
eventually 18 were hanged for the crime. King Henry III himself personally
ordered the juridical investigation of the case five weeks after the
discovery of the body, and refused to allow mercy to be shown to the Jew
Copinus, who was executed.
1144, Norwich. A twelve year-old boy was crucified and his side pierced at
the Jewish Passover. His body was found in a sack hidden in a tree. A
converted Jew, called Theobald of Cambridge, confessed that the Jews took
blood every year from a Christian child because they thought that only by so
doing could they ever obtain their freedom and return to Palestine; and that
it was their custom to draw lots to decide whence the blood was to be
supplied; Theobald said that last year the lot fell to Narbonne, but in this
year to Norwich. The boy was locally beatified and has ever since been known
as St. William. The Sheriff, probably bribed, refused to bring the Jews to
trial.
Crawl back under your rock you rock spider. Seeing at the moment America is
only " that far " as Maxwell Smart used to say from being a Hebrew speaking
all Israeli colony, so the only view currently accepted is a rabid zionist
nazi view which accepts only rabid zionist sources.
So it's a nice change to get away from mein kampf in Yiddish you zionist or
zionist arse licker, whichever fits.
"Don H" <donlhu...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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American society.
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/the_rothschild_bloodline.htm
http://www.rothschild.com/groupprivatebanking/?id=businesses/RothschildBankZurich
Soviet Union 25,568,000
Fees for evac.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/18/lebanon.evacuation/
Right-Wing Attacks American Evacuees: 'Ingrates,' 'Whining,' 'Spoiled-Rotten
Little Children' Not that the right wing is heavily populated by
jews/zionists
Israel's original sin
http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/Aug102005/editpage162334200589.asp
http://www.britains-smallwars.com/Palestine/kidnap.htm
"At a daily rate of $8.10, hospitalized troops, including those wounded in
Iraq and Afghanistan, are being charged for their meals
http://www.antiwar.com/barganier/ba091503.html
UN urges Israel halt 'violations'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5154594.stm
GENEVA - A UN human rights expert on Wednesday criticized the United States,
European Union, Russia and the United Nations for ignoring countless Israeli
violations of human rights, international law and other standards.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/735109.html
Apparently they should be as happy as they are that their fellow israelis
are bombing them. The chickenhawks now showing their brave side.
http://pseudojournalist.blogspot.com/2006/07/americans-trapped-in-lebanon.html
The Bush administration's evacuation of Americans in Lebanon has been
disorganized and lagged behind the efforts of other countries. As of
yesterday, only a few thousand had been able to evacuate, and they departed
"two days after the first Europeans left on ships." Denmark, for example,
"evacuated more than 4,000 of its citizens" by Thursday.
Conservatives have reacted to this incompetence by attacking the evacuees:
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/21/right-wing-evacuees/
http://gmroper.mu.nu/archives/187407.php
http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/news_theswamp/2006/07/americans_trapp.html
http://pseudojournalist.blogspot.com/2006/07/americans-trapped-in-lebanon.html
KILLINGS AT A BEACH PICNIC.
Lebanon
http://lebanonheartblogs.blogspot.com/2006/07/warning-strong-pictures.html
"At a daily rate of $8.10, hospitalized troops, including those wounded in
Iraq and Afghanistan, are being charged for their meals
http://www.antiwar.com/barganier/ba091503.html
UN urges Israel halt 'violations'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5154594.stm
GENEVA - A UN human rights expert on Wednesday criticized the United States,
European Union, Russia and the United Nations for ignoring countless Israeli
violations of human rights, international law and other standards.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/735109.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14029827/
BEIRUT, Lebanon - An Israeli bomb destroyed a U.N. observer post on the
border in southern Lebanon Tuesday, killing three observers and leaving
another feared dead,
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1947UN181.html
Resolution 181
http://www.mideastweb.org/181.htm
http://www.nogw.com/israeliatrocities.html#thewall
A list of UN Resolutions against "Israel" Here is a list of UN resolutions
that Israel has not complied with, far more than Iraq. Note that she has
also illegally developed nuclear weapons. Further, the situation is far
worse than would at first appear, it involves the serious distortion of the
official Security Council record by the profligate use by the United States
of its veto power. (See Table) Israel's, defiance goes back to its very
beginnings. This collection of resolutions criticizing Israel is unmatched
by the record of any other nation as Israel stands in violation of more UN
resolutions than ANY OTHER NATION ON EARTH.
A list of UN Resolutions against "Israel" 1955-1992: *
Resolution 106: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for Gaza raid". *
Resolution 111: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that killed
fifty-six people". * Resolution 127: " . . . 'recommends' Israel suspends
it's 'no-man's zone' in Jerusalem". *
Resolution 162: " . . . 'urges' Israel to comply with UN decisions". *
Resolution 171: " . . . determines flagrant violations' by Israel in its
attack on Syria". Resolution 228: " . . . 'censures' Israel for its attack
on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control". *
Resolution 237: " . . . 'urges' Israel to allow return of new 1967
Palestinian refugees". Resolution 248: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for its
massive attack on Karameh in Jordan". *
Resolution 250: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to refrain from holding military
parade in Jerusalem". *
Resolution 251: " . . . 'deeply deplores' Israeli military parade in
Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250". *
Resolution 252: " . . . 'declares invalid' Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem
as Jewish capital". *
Resolution 256: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli raids on Jordan as 'flagrant
violation". * Resolution 259: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to accept
UN mission to probe occupation". *
Resolution 262: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for attack on Beirut airport". *
Resolution 265: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks for Salt in
Jordan". * Resolution 267: " . . . 'censures' Israel for administrative acts
to change the status of Jerusalem". *
Resolution 270: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks on villages in
southern Lebanon". *
Resolution 271: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's failure to obey UN resolutions
on Jerusalem". *
Resolution 279: " . . . 'demands' withdrawal of Israeli forces from
Lebanon". * Resolution 280: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli's attacks against
Lebanon". *
Resolution 285: " . . . 'demands' immediate Israeli withdrawal form
Lebanon". * Resolution 298: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's changing of the
status of Jerusalem". * Resolution 313: " . . . 'demands' that Israel stop
attacks against Lebanon". * Resolution 316: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for
repeated attacks on Lebanon". * Resolution 317: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's
refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon". *
Resolution 332: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's repeated attacks against
Lebanon". * Resolution 337: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for violating
Lebanon's sovereignty". * Resolution 347: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli attacks
on Lebanon". *
Resolution 425: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw its forces from
Lebanon". * Resolution 427: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to complete its
withdrawal from Lebanon. * Resolution 444: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's lack
of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces". *
Resolution 446: " . . . 'determines' that Israeli settlements are a 'serious
obstruction' to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva
Convention". *
Resolution 450: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon". *
Resolution 452: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to cease building settlements in
occupied territories". *
Resolution 465: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's settlements and asks all member
states not to assist Israel's settlements program". *
Resolution 467: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's military intervention
in Lebanon". * Resolution 468: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to rescind illegal
expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their
return". *
Resolution 469: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's failure to observe the
council's order not to deport Palestinians". *
Resolution 471: " . . . 'expresses deep concern' at Israel's failure to
abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention". *
Resolution 476: " . . . 'reiterates' that Israel's claim to Jerusalem are
'null and void'". * Resolution 478: " . . . 'censures (Israel) in the
strongest terms' for its claim to Jerusalem in its 'Basic Law'". *
Resolution 484: " . . . 'declares it imperative' that Israel re- admit two
deported Palestinian mayors". *
Resolution 487: " . . . 'strongly condemns' Israel for its attack on Iraq's
nuclear facility". *
Resolution 497: " . . . 'decides' that Israel's annexation of Syria's Golan
Heights is 'null and void' and demands that Israel rescinds its decision
forthwith". *
Resolution 498: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon". *
Resolution 501: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon
and withdraw its troops". *
Resolution 509: " . . . 'demands' that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith
and unconditionally from Lebanon". *
Resolution 515: " . . . 'demands' that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and
allow food supplies to be brought in". *
Resolution 517: " . . . 'censures' Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions
and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon". *
Resolution 518: " . . . 'demands' that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces
in Lebanon". *
Resolution 520: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's attack into West Beirut". *
Resolution 573: " . . . 'condemns' Israel 'vigorously' for bombing Tunisia
in attack on PLO headquarters. *
Resolution 587: " . . . 'takes note' of previous calls on Israel to withdraw
its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw". *
Resolution 592: " . . . 'strongly deplores' the killing of Palestinian
students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops". *
Resolution 605: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's policies and practices
denying the human rights of Palestinians. *
Resolution 607: " . . . 'calls' on Israel not to deport Palestinians and
strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention. *
Resolution 608: " . . . 'deeply regrets' that Israel has defied the United
Nations and deported Palestinian civilians". *
Resolution 636: " . . . 'deeply regrets' Israeli deportation of Palestinian
civilians. * Resolution 641: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's continuing
deportation of Palestinians. * Resolution 672: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for
violence against Palestinians at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount. *
Resolution 673: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to cooperate with the
United Nations. Resolution 681: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's resumption of
the deportation of Palestinians. * Resolution 694: " . . . 'deplores'
Israel's deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe
and immediate return. *
Resolution 726: " . . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of
Palestinians. * Resolution 799: ". . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's
deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for there immediate return.
1993 to 1995UNGA Res 50/21 - The Middle East Peace Process (Dec 12, 1995)
UNGA Res 50/22 - The Situation in the Middle East (Dec 12,
1995) UNGA Res 49/35 - Assistance to Palestinian Refugees (Jan 30 1995)
lUNGA Res 49/36 - Human Rights of Palestinian Refugees (Jan 30 1995) UNGA
Res 49/62 - Question of Palestine (Feb 3 1995) UNGA Res 49/78 - Nuclear
Proliferation in Mideast (Jan 11 1995) UNGA Res 49/87 - Situation in the
Middle East (Feb 7 1995) UNGA Res 49/88 - The Middle East Peace Process (Feb
7 1995) UNGA Res 49/149- Palestinian Right- Self-Determination (Feb 7 1995)
UNGA Res 48/213 - Assistance to Palestinian Refugees (Mar 15, 1994) UNGA Res
48/40 - UNRWA for Palestinian Refugees (Dec 13, 1993) UNGA Res 48/41 - Human
Rights in the Territories (Dec 10 1993) UNGA Res 48/58 - The Middle East
Peace Process (Dec 14 1993) UNGA Res 48/59 - The Situation in the Middle
East (Dec 14 1993) UNGA Res 48/71 - Nuclear-Weapon-Free Zone in Mideast (Dec
16 1993) UNGA Res 48/78 - Israeli Nuclear Armament (Dec 16 1993) UNGA Res
48/94 - Self-Determination & Independence (Dec 20 1993) UNGA Res 48/124-
Non-interference in Elections (Dec 20 1993) UNGA Res 48/158- Question of
Palestine (Dec 20 1993) UNGA Res 48/212- Repercussions of Israeli
Settlements (Dec 21 1993) ==========+++===========
U.S. Vetoes of UN Resolutions Critical of Israel (1972-2002)
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Vetoes: 1972-1982 Subject Date & Meeting US Rep Casting Veto Vote Palestine:
Syrian-Lebanese Complaint. 3 power draft resolution 2/10784 9/10/1972 Bush
13-1, 1 Palestine: Examination of Middle East Situation. 8-power draft
resolution (S/10974) 7/2/1973 Scali 13-1, 0 (China not partic.) Palestine:
Egyptian-Lebanese Complaint. 5-power draft power resolution (S/11898)
12/8/1975 Moynihan 13-1, 1 Palestine: Middle East Problem, including
Palestinian question. 6- power draft resolution (S/11940) 1/26/1976 Moynihan
9-1,3 (China & Libya not partic.) Palestine: Situation in Occupied Arab
Territories. 5-power draft resolution (S/12022) 3/25/1976 Scranton 14-1,0
Palestine: Report on Committee on Rights of Palestinian People. 4- power
draft resolution (S/121119) 6/29/1976 Sherer 10-1,4 Palestine: Palestinian
Rights. Tunisian draft resolution. (S/13911) 4/30/1980 McHenry 10-1,4
Palestine: Golan Heights. Jordan draft resolution. (S/14832/Rev. 2)
1/20/1982 Kirkpatrick 9-1,5 Palestine: Situation in Occupied Territories,
Jordan draft resolution (S/14943) 4/2/1982 Lichenstein 13-1,1 Palestine:
Incident at the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem. 4-power draft resolution
4/20/1982 Kirpatrick 14-1, 0 Palestine: Conflict in Lebanon. Spain draft
resolution. (S/15185) 6/8/1982 Kirpatrick 14-1,0 Palestine: Conflict in
Lebanon. France draft resolution. (S/15255/Rev. 2) 6/26/1982 Lichenstein
14-1 Palestine: Conflict in Lebanon. USSR draft resolution. (S/15347/Rev. 1,
as orally amended) 8/6/1982 Lichenstein 11-1,3 Palestine: Situation in
Occupied Territories, 20-power draft resolution (S/15895) 8/2/1983
Lichenstein 13-1,1 Security Council Vetoes/Negative voting 1983-present
Subject Date Vote Occupied Arab Territories: Wholesale condemnation of
Israeli settlement policies - not adopted 1983 S. Lebanon: Condemns Israeli
action in southern Lebanon. S/16732 9/6/1984 Vetoed: 13-1 (U.S.), with 1
abstention (UK) Occupied Territories: Deplores "repressive measures" by
Israel against Arab population. S/19459. 9/13/1985 Vetoed: 10-1 (U.S.), with
4 abstentions (Australia, Denmark, UK, France) Lebanon: Condemns Israeli
practices against civilians in southern Lebanon. S/17000. 3/12/1985 Vetoed:
11-1 (U.S.), with 3 abstentions (Australia, Denmark, UK) Occupied
Territories: Calls upon Israel to respect Muslim holy places. S/17769/Rev. 1
1/30/1986 Vetoed: 13-1 (US), with one abstention (Thailand) Lebanon:
Condemns Israeli practices against civilians in southern Lebanon.
S/17730/Rev. 2. 1/17/1986 Vetoed: 11-1 (U.S.), with 3 abstentions
(Australia, Denmark, UK) Libya/Israel: Condemns Israeli interception of
Libyan plane. S/17796/Rev. 1. 2/6/1986 Vetoed: 10 -1 (US), with 4
abstentions (Australia, Denmark, France, UK) Lebanon: Draft strongly
deplored repeated Israeli attacks against Lebanese territory and other
measures and practices against the civilian population; (S/19434) 1/18/1988
vetoed 13-1 (US), with 1 abstention (UK) Lebanon: Draft condemned recent
invasion by Israeli forces of Southern Lebanon and Draft condemned recent
invasion by Israeli forces of Southern Lebanon and repeated a call for the
immediate withdrawal of all Israeli forces from Lebanese territory;
(S/19868) 5/10/1988 vetoed 14-1 (US) Lebanon: Draft strongly deplored the
recent Israeli attack against Lebanese territory on 9 December 1988;
(S/20322) 12/14/1988 vetoed 14-1 (US) Occupied territories: Draft called on
Israel to accept de jure applicability of the 4th Geneva Convention;
(S/19466) 1988 vetoed 14-1 (US) Occupied territories: Draft urged Israel to
abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention, rescind the order to deport
Palestinian civilians, and condemned policies and practices of Israel that
violate the human rights of the Palestinian people in the occupied
territories; (S/19780) 1988 vetoed 14-1 (US) Occupied territories: Strongly
deplored Israeli policies and practices in the occupied territories, and
strongly deplored also Israel's continued disregard of relevant Security
Council decisions. 2/17/1989 Vetoed 14-1 (US) Occupied territories:
Condemned Israeli policies and practices in the occupied territories.
6/9/1989 Vetoed 14-1 (US) Occupied territories: Deplored Israel's policies
and practices in the occupied territories. 11/7/1989 Vetoed 14-1 (US)
Occupied territories: NAM draft resolution to create a commission and send
three security council members to Rishon Lezion, where an Israeli gunmen
shot down seven Palestinian workers. 5/31/1990 Vetoed 14-1 (US) Middle East:
Confirms that the expropriation of land by Israel in East Jerusalem is
invalid and in violation of relevant Security Council resolutions and
provisions of the Fourth Geneva convention; expresses support of peace
process, including the Declaration of Principles of 9/13/1993 5/17/1995
Vetoed 14-1 (US) Middle East: Calls upon Israeli authorities to refrain from
all actions or measures, including settlement activities. 3/7/1997 Vetoed
14-1 (US) Middle East: Demands that Israel cease construction of the
settlement in east Jerusalem (called Jabal Abu Ghneim by the Palestinians
and Har Homa by Israel), as well as all the other Israeli settlement
activity in the occupied territories 3/21/1997 Vetoed 13-1,1 (US) Call for
UN Observers Force in West Bank, Gaza 3/27/2001 Vetoed 9-1 (US), with four
abstentions (Britain, France, Ireland and Norway) Condemned acts of terror,
demanded an end to violence and the establishment of a monitoring mechanism
to bring in observers. 12/15/2001 Vetoed 12-1 (US) with two abstentions
(Britain and Norway) Source: U.S. State Department
WAR CRIMES
Israel accused Friday, 3 November, 2000 - Israel has always sought to escape
responsibility for what was done in Khiam
OPENING GRAVE WOUNDS / EVIDENCE OF ISRAELI ATROCITIES DURING THE 1967 WAR
WITH EGYPT THREATENS THE COUNTRIES' FRAGILE TIES FREDERICK PAINTON REPORTED
BY AMANY RADWAN/CAIRO AND ERIC SILVER/JERUSALEM - The fury aroused in Egypt
by the apparent proof of massacres was fueled by the press, which matched
wartime photos with imaginative illustrations showing Egyptian soldiers
surrendering, being ordered to dig their graves, then being executed.
"The saving of the Jews in Europe did not figure at the head of the list of
priorities of the ruling class. It was the foundation of the State which was
primordial in their eyes."
http://www.al-shia.com/html/eng/books/miscelleneous/the-founding-myths-of-israeli-politics/part3.htm
"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
Kenyermeze.
The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and others
used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the Jews.
They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help of
Jewish leaders.
The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local leaders
of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were spreading
such false information and did not protest.
Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
The truth is that somewhere between 700,000 and 1,500,000 people died in
German work camps in 1944 and 1945. Most of them were Jews. Many were not.
Most of them died in the last six months of the war from disease and hunger
caused by America's bombing of Germany and subsequent destruction of her
infrastructure. There were some atrocities but very few. Few people realize
that
the International Red Cross had a field office in Auschwiz from 1942 until
the end of the war.
That office never reported or recorded any atrocities (Several years ago
international Jewry forced the Red Cross to apologize to the Jews -
apologize for not seeing something that never happened.)
Clearly, the German authorities were at pains to relieve the dire situation
as far as they were able. The Red Cross are quite explicit in stating that
food supplies ceased at this time due to the Allied bombing of German
transportation, and in the interests of interned Jews they had protested on
March 15th, 1944 against "the barbarous aerial warfare of the Allies" (Inter
Arma Caritas, p. 78). By October 2nd, 1944, the ICRC warned the German
Foreign Office of the impending collapse of the German transportation
system, declaring that starvation conditions for people throughout Germany
were becoming inevitable.
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Gord McFee wrote:
> On 1/11/2008 10:42 PM, B'inyamin C'r'amer wrote:
>
>> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:13og9dh...@corp.supernews.com...
>>> On 1/8/2008 11:36 PM, Matt Giwer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gord McFee wrote:
>>>>> On 1/8/2008 1:43 AM, Matt Giwer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gord McFee wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/6/2008 10:51 PM, Matt Giwer wrote:
>>>>>>>> Gord McFee wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 1/2/2008 11:42 PM, Matt Giwer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [rubbish deleted]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oops, that was everything.
>>>>> [same rubbish deleted again]
>>> [same rubbish deleted yet again]
>> Poor ole gourd.
>> Can't stand being bested.
> Nope, I will not be trolled by Matt. I chased him out of her once
> before and can't be bothered when some crossposter brings him back in.
You chased me away? What an ago you have. Did you ever consider I get tired
of
dealing with retards who can't do simple algebra?
If you wish to claim Israel is lying please do it. Otherwise algebra
rules
and it is just your silly superstition.
=====
Still having trouble with elementary algebra I see. If you can't
believe
Israel on the subject who can you believe? A stupid shit like McFly?
However one million is a conveniently round number. Perhaps it was an early
estimate and in error. In 2004 Israel issued a more refined number still
alive
in that year, 1,092,000, for the purpose of actually filing lawsuits. So 59
years after the event 16/75s were still alive. That leaves us with 5,118,750
alive in 1945 if none were killed for inability to work. If we go with those
under 13 being killed we have 27,300,000 holocaust survivors alive in 1945.
This is nearly twice as many Jews as were in all the world in 1938.
=====
The entire article at http://www.giwersworld.org/holo3/holo-survivors.phtml
Please feel free to demonstrate you are ignorant of elementary algebra by
disagreeing.
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