Aussie railway slang
David Bromage
railway slang. (My favourite is YOBBEX refering to a footbal excursion
special.)
It was interesting to note different meanings the Brits give to certain
words. For example, "peg" means a semaphore signal, whereas in Australia
it often refers to distance post.
So apart from gunzel, what is uniquely Australian railway slang? Some
terms came from the old telegraph codes, e.g. a train can be Amexed
(cancelled). Bona (engine and van) is another.
Cheers
David
BEE EFF
A peg can also be the token for the section on single line(Ordinary Train
Staff or Electric Staff).
There are heaps of telegraph codes such as the following:
Eden- Total Tonneage despatched since 6am
Edna- Total Tonneage on hand at 6am
Onag- Tonneage in Transit
Fori- To do with tonneage that is delayed for 24hrs or more
Agad-Total No: of freight & mixed trains that were assisted up
Wolo-To do with heat affecting the running line
RovaMech-Special authorisation fo running trains with special loads etc.
Cuta-Attaching wagons enroute
The list goes on if you can find copies of the old General and Local
Appendices you will find these codes throughout various sections.
Hope some of this is of help
BEE EFF
Graeme
for the section" or "I have just sunk a peg in to the machine"
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Graeme
crews to travel on a passenger train to relieve a crew somewhere along the
line
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green uniforms and compared staff to the plasticine character. Commonly
thrown about by graffiti artists.
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David Bromage
> Gumby , Gumbies = throw back to railway staff (VIC) when they had lovely
> green uniforms and compared staff to the plasticine character. Commonly
> thrown about by graffiti artists.
Gumby - see Kermit.
Cheers
David
Mark Bau
dbro...@fang.omni.com.au wrote on 2/8/01 6:59 PM:
> There has been some discussion on uk.railway recently about British
> railway slang. (My favourite is YOBBEX refering to a footbal excursion
> special.)
>
> It was interesting to note different meanings the Brits give to certain
> words. For example, "peg" means a semaphore signal, whereas in Australia
> it often refers to distance post.
On VR "peg" referred to a staff (electric or train)
>
> So apart from gunzel, what is uniquely Australian railway slang? Some
> terms came from the old telegraph codes, e.g. a train can be Amexed
> (cancelled). Bona (engine and van) is another.
Amex, Bona, Agne et al are not slang at all, they were code words used in
official telegraphic transmissions.
>
> Cheers
> David
keith malcolm
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>
> words. For example, "peg" means a semaphore signal, whereas in Australia
> it often refers to distance post.
Stick is the local term for a signal, a peg is the staff.
Dave Malcolm
>
> Cheers
> David
Ron Bennell
electric latch that is to reset the signal.
Ron
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Graeme
"Mark Bau" <mar...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Amex, Bona, Agne et al are not slang at all, they were code words used in
> official telegraphic transmissions.
> >
> > Cheers
> > David
Zoly was a telegraph code too:Arange to relieve Driver and Fireman ,but was
used in paper form[Vic] to act as an official pass to travel to relieve the
crew.The paper version might have had an official name ,but was always
referred to by crews as a Zoly
Likewise
Bona: Locomotive with brake-van for Guards accommodation,left here at
..................for...............
was used in a slang fashion rather than saying :We run loco and van to
Seymour,Bona was substituted for loco and van.
Never heard any one say :We run Acme to Seymour though.
Graeme
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> AFAIK a Stick is a specific type of 2 position home signal in VR that has
an
> electric latch that is to reset the signal.
>
> Ron
Pull the stick off
Got the stick
Passed the stick at red
Can you see the stick?
Dropped the stick back in my face
All manner of signals but sticks none the less
Tezza
"David Bromage" <dbro...@fang.omni.com.au> wrote in message
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| railway slang. (My favourite is YOBBEX refering to a footbal excursion
| special.)
|
| It was interesting to note different meanings the Brits give to certain
| words. For example, "peg" means a semaphore signal, whereas in Australia
| it often refers to distance post.
What part of Australia would that be?
Sam Eades
>
> "Mark Bau" <mar...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:B6A8BFD0.1035%mar...@earthlink.net...
> > Amex, Bona, Agne et al are not slang at all, they were code words used
in
> > official telegraphic transmissions.
AMEX - Cancel
The following are on Staff and Ticket only.
ACRE - Arrived Complete at (Eg TD 1242 ACRE at 0942)
APIX - Departure at
AMAS - Carrying Master Key
AGNE - Permission requested To Occupy the line outside the home signal
AUDI - Permission to occupy the line outside the home signal granted
AWAK - Line clear Outside the home signal.
Sam
Erk
Didn't we have this discussion a month or so ago?
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| <snip>
|
| Didn't we have this discussion a month or so ago?
Sure did.
Graeme
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No guards had been rodgered by drivers,or vicaversa and Sydney trains got
through the day with out much incident.
BEE EFF
Regards
BEE EFF
David Bromage
> Could be NSW Tezza eg: Mileage Peg/ Kilometer Peg
Used in Victoria, although possibly mainly by railfans.
Cheers
David
David Johnson
> The list goes on if you can find copies of the old General and Local
> Appendices you will find these codes throughout various sections.
I have most of the NSW ones at
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~trainman/telegraph.htm
Chris Gordon has the Victorian ones on his page somewhere.
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Martin Cowley
wrote:
>David,
>
>A peg can also be the token for the section on single line(Ordinary Train
>Staff or Electric Staff).
>
>There are heaps of telegraph codes such as the following:
>
>Eden- Total Tonneage despatched since 6am
>Edna- Total Tonneage on hand at 6am
>Onag- Tonneage in Transit
>Fori- To do with tonneage that is delayed for 24hrs or more
>Agad-Total No: of freight & mixed trains that were assisted up
>Wolo-To do with heat affecting the running line
>RovaMech-Special authorisation fo running trains with special loads etc.
>Cuta-Attaching wagons enroute
A friend of mine when I worked for Australian National said that he
and another friend used PYFO (pull your finger out) in some telegrams.
The practice spread to other staff members, but got canned by a terse
instruction from those who must be obeyed that only OFFICIAL code
words were to be used.
Martin
Tezza
| Could be NSW Tezza eg: Mileage Peg/ Kilometer Peg
Yeah, for some reason I read "distance post" as distant signal.
Brian
> It was interesting to note different meanings the Brits give to certain
> words. For example, "peg" means a semaphore signal, whereas in Australia
> it often refers to distance post.
I didn't see this subject last time it came up so my contribution this time
around is reffering to a Guard as a "sprag".
Sprag officially per the rules, was a thick piece of wood with pointy ends
used to stick in the holes or between the spokes of wheels when the hand
brake was U/S to prevent the vehicle rolling away.
A staff called many things from a pacifier (on back of beyond passengers) to
a waddy.
A signal of semaphore or coloured light variety as a "stick".
A shunt signal as a "dolly".
The old separate compartment type passenger coaches as "dogboxes"
so any how thats my bit
Brian.
Tezza
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| >
| > It was interesting to note different meanings the Brits give to certain
| > words. For example, "peg" means a semaphore signal, whereas in Australia
| > it often refers to distance post.
|
| I didn't see this subject last time it came up so my contribution this
time
| around is reffering to a Guard as a "sprag".
| Sprag officially per the rules, was a thick piece of wood with pointy ends
| used to stick in the holes or between the spokes of wheels when the hand
| brake was U/S to prevent the vehicle rolling away.
I seem to recall 20 odd years ago that a trainee shunter was called a sprag.
FH Eden
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> Gumby , Gumbies = throw back to railway staff (VIC) when they had lovely
> green uniforms and compared staff to the plasticine character. Commonly
> thrown about by graffiti artists.
And Pokey was the name given to the National Bus company drivers when
they first appaered with their red uniform. Pokey was the red horse in
Gumby from memory.
keith malcolm
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> You missed one of the most interesting...a fettler was a "hairyleg"
They still are hairy-legs.
Dave Malcolm
> franco
>
>
Tezza
| > I seem to recall 20 odd years ago that a trainee shunter was called a
| sprag.
| >
| >
| You missed one of the most interesting...a fettler was a "hairyleg"
| franco
I still use it, but I'm about the only one.
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> words. For example, "peg" means a semaphore signal, whereas in Australia
> it often refers to distance post.
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Never heard of that David!
sure you are not confused a little there
In my Railway Career, the slang word "peg" always referred to the "staff"
As my Driver applied power as we swung through Wangarratta on "the hand" he
would ask..."did you get the peg son?"
Rod
gm4201
>
> | Sprag officially per the rules, was a thick piece of wood with pointy
ends
> | used to stick in the holes or between the spokes of wheels when the hand
> | brake was U/S to prevent the vehicle rolling away.
>
>
> I seem to recall 20 odd years ago that a trainee shunter was called a
sprag.
>
>
rolling away? :)
Tezza
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Knew they had to be useful for something.
Eddie Oliver
>
> > It was interesting to note different meanings the Brits give to certain
> > words. For example, "peg" means a semaphore signal, whereas in Australia
> > it often refers to distance post.
>
> David Bromage <dbro...@fang.omni.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> Never heard of that David!
> sure you are not confused a little there
> In my Railway Career, the slang word "peg" always referred to the "staff"
Maybe it depends on the people doing the talking. Terms like "quarter
mile peg" and more recently "kilometre peg" have always been relatively
common (at least in NSW) amongst track and structure people, and I would
have thought that they were at least understood by drivers etc. Moreover
there is no functional ambiguity between the meaning "distance post"
versus the meaning "token"; no one is going to interpret a "kilometre
peg" as a staff one kilometre long (an interesting concept!), nor is
anyone going to interpret "get the peg" as being an instruction to root
a distance post out of the ground.
Tezza
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| nor is
| anyone going to interpret "get the peg" as being an instruction to root
| a distance post out of the ground.
Hmm, the things you buffs get up to.
Eddie Oliver
Well, imagine what people might do in response to "sink the peg".
Graeme
Yuri
<trai...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>Chris Gordon has the Victorian ones on his page somewhere.
MattyQ
Or "sink the waddy"?
I won't even BEGIN to make references to a "hot box"!!!
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runaway
What about when your peg gets stuck in a drawer lock.
runaway
A "Jiffy" while shunting is pulling one or more "trucks" towards a set of
points, bunching up to lift the "pin", and then running the engine up one
road, followed by "throwing the points" to allow the trucks to roll up the
other road.
A jiffy can also mean (on loco hauled pass trains) partially releasing and
then reapplying the train brakes just before coming to a stand.
End of Train Markers (ETM's - The flashing light/s at the rear of freight
trains) are called many things, including BOG's or BOG lights (Battery
Operated Guards), Blinky Bills etc.
Isn't there a book on all these things (sensing a business opportunity :))
runaway.
Ted Gay
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>
>
> A "Jiffy" while shunting is pulling one or more "trucks" towards a set of
> points, bunching up to lift the "pin", and then running the engine up one
> road, followed by "throwing the points" to allow the trucks to roll up the
> other road.
>
> A jiffy can also mean (on loco hauled pass trains) partially releasing and
> then reapplying the train brakes just before coming to a stand.
>
> End of Train Markers (ETM's - The flashing light/s at the rear of freight
> trains) are called many things, including BOG's or BOG lights (Battery
> Operated Guards), Blinky Bills etc.
>
> Isn't there a book on all these things (sensing a business opportunity :))
>
> runaway.
>
Now that you've got all the gunzels drooling, go for it!!
Ted
Ronald BESDANSKY
>
track down the name & author. I know they've got it in the Victoria State
Library.
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Mark Bau
[comtrain] at freig...@hotmail.com wrote on 2/11/01 6:47 AM:
A more dramatic use of this word was one night on the Overland as we flew
through Glenorchy: "Red light we've dropped the $%^&ing peg"
Mark