BOO!!!! it's back very fast train dream

[Petzl]

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/bullet-train-plan-picks-up-speed/story-e6freoof-1226617710381
http://www.smh.com.au/national/bite-the-bullet-japan-keen-to-introduce-its-train-20130407-2hepk.html
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left

[john...@nospam.com.au]

Malcolm has a simpler and cheaper plan. One of his mates bought Nathan
Tinkler's horse stud.

[Petzl]

Malcom, "Mr Broadband"?
Cheaper does it look like this in EVERY street by someones driveway?
http://images.smh.com.au/2013/04/11/4184612/art-cabinets-620x349.jpg
Full story
http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/government-it/nbn-street-cabinets-hideous-20130411-2hoka.html

[Chris Diesel]

"Petzl" <pet...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:vtqem8tkbq9a36u4b...@4ax.com...

How many times have we previously heard talk about another proposed plans
for a VFT? I imagine it would be close to a dozen times now. NSW Labour made
a habit of announcing new train lines (which ended up never seeing the light
of day) at every election until the electorate simply became immune to this
bullshit.

[Petzl]

On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 21:44:57 +1000, "Chris Diesel"
<die...@no.real.address.com.au> wrote:

>
>"Petzl" <pet...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:vtqem8tkbq9a36u4b...@4ax.com...
>> http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/bullet-train-plan-picks-up-speed/story-e6freoof-1226617710381
>> http://www.smh.com.au/national/bite-the-bullet-japan-keen-to-introduce-its-train-20130407-2hepk.html
>

>How many times have we previously heard talk about another proposed plans
>for a VFT? I imagine it would be close to a dozen times now. NSW Labour made
>a habit of announcing new train lines (which ended up never seeing the light
>of day) at every election until the electorate simply became immune to this
>bullshit.
>

A VFT with 16 stops to Melbourne?
Sounds to me it's for voters not passengers?

[Sylvia Else]

On 12/04/2013 12:07 PM, Petzl wrote:
> http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/bullet-train-plan-picks-up-speed/story-e6freoof-1226617710381
> http://www.smh.com.au/national/bite-the-bullet-japan-keen-to-introduce-its-train-20130407-2hepk.html
>

It appears the whole pointless waste of money on yet another fast train
study (which included not just station layouts, but toilet locations
therein[*]) was to appease the Greens so that they'd support the
minority government.

Were any attempt actually to be made to build such a railway, a
different group of Greens could be relied on to oppose it on
environmental grounds. There's nothing like a big infrastructure project
to cause the discovery of any number of previously unknown frogs.

Sylvia.

[*] Seriously - I kid you not - they really did identify where toilets
would go in the new stations.

[Chris Diesel]

"Sylvia Else" <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:at10r4...@mid.individual.net...

> On 12/04/2013 12:07 PM, Petzl wrote:
>> http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/bullet-train-plan-picks-up-speed/story-e6freoof-1226617710381
>> http://www.smh.com.au/national/bite-the-bullet-japan-keen-to-introduce-its-train-20130407-2hepk.html
>>
>
> It appears the whole pointless waste of money on yet another fast train
> study (which included not just station layouts, but toilet locations
> therein[*]) was to appease the Greens so that they'd support the minority
> government.
>
> Were any attempt actually to be made to build such a railway, a different
> group of Greens could be relied on to oppose it on environmental grounds.
> There's nothing like a big infrastructure project to cause the discovery
> of any number of previously unknown frogs.

That would be the 'Green and Gold Bell Frog'. These things are notorious for
turning up at just about every building project. I think the green groups
must have a breading colony of these things, which are released at the most
suitable time during the environmental assessment.

[Chris Diesel]

"Petzl" <pet...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:j9amm894anlp7di9d...@4ax.com...

Yes, that 16 stops would take a big bite out of the magical 3 hours trip.
I suspect your correct about all this being for voters and not passengers.

[john...@nospam.com.au]

Yup; build toilets and lock them up.

Anyway, the study was only ever intellectual class welfare aimed at reinforcing
Juliar's claim that university graduates earn more. She will further reinforce
that claim by allowing auto industry tradeswomen to gravitate to the hotel
cleaning jobs presently done by 457 workers.

[Petzl]

On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 06:05:16 +1000, "Chris Diesel"

<die...@no.real.address.com.au> wrote:

>
>"Petzl" <pet...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:j9amm894anlp7di9d...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 21:44:57 +1000, "Chris Diesel"
>> <die...@no.real.address.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Petzl" <pet...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:vtqem8tkbq9a36u4b...@4ax.com...
>>>> http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/bullet-train-plan-picks-up-speed/story-e6freoof-1226617710381
>>>> http://www.smh.com.au/national/bite-the-bullet-japan-keen-to-introduce-its-train-20130407-2hepk.html
>>>
>>>How many times have we previously heard talk about another proposed plans
>>>for a VFT? I imagine it would be close to a dozen times now. NSW Labour
>>>made
>>>a habit of announcing new train lines (which ended up never seeing the
>>>light
>>>of day) at every election until the electorate simply became immune to
>>>this
>>>bullshit.
>>>
>> A VFT with 16 stops to Melbourne?
>> Sounds to me it's for voters not passengers?
>
>Yes, that 16 stops would take a big bite out of the magical 3 hours trip.
>I suspect your correct about all this being for voters and not passengers.
>

The map misses out Campbelltown!!!!!!
Apparently they have decided on 16 stops of 20 proposed
http://tinyurl.com/This-Page-go-down
They won't get votes from Labor heartland with no Campbelltown.
Do all the toilets face Mecca! Or will they lose the Moslem vote?
Does the train have to zig zag east west to comply with this, or will
on board Toilets have E/W window view
How's the unneeded Airport going$$$$
Banks and their supporters (Carr, Greiner & Co) love lending money to
Gotham City (a city of fools) Sydney got a desalination plant instead
of a already paid for Welcome Reef Dam.
Carr got a Macquarie $500K p/a job plus a $500K state pension
Anthony Albanese probably eyeing a bank job too?

[Sylvia Else]

On 16/04/2013 6:05 AM, Chris Diesel wrote:
>
> "Petzl" <pet...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:j9amm894anlp7di9d...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 21:44:57 +1000, "Chris Diesel"
>> <die...@no.real.address.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Petzl" <pet...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:vtqem8tkbq9a36u4b...@4ax.com...
>>>> http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/bullet-train-plan-picks-up-speed/story-e6freoof-1226617710381
>>>> http://www.smh.com.au/national/bite-the-bullet-japan-keen-to-introduce-its-train-20130407-2hepk.html
>>>
>>> How many times have we previously heard talk about another proposed plans
>>> for a VFT? I imagine it would be close to a dozen times now. NSW Labour
>>> made
>>> a habit of announcing new train lines (which ended up never seeing the
>>> light
>>> of day) at every election until the electorate simply became immune to
>>> this
>>> bullshit.
>>>
>> A VFT with 16 stops to Melbourne?
>> Sounds to me it's for voters not passengers?
>
> Yes, that 16 stops would take a big bite out of the magical 3 hours trip.
> I suspect your correct about all this being for voters and not passengers.

Clearly, such a train could not stop frequently.

I noticed in the report a comment about having high-speed commuter
services from Newcastle to Sydney. Just what you need with a high-speed
rail line - cluttering it up with short distance traffic that is then
politically impossible to remove later when demand for long distance
services picks up, requiring the capacity occupied by the commuter services.

Not that it matters, given that we know it'll never be built.

Sylvia.

[terryc]

On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 10:02:06 +1000, Petzl wrote:


> The map misses out Campbelltown!!!!!! Apparently they have decided on 16
> stops of 20 proposed http://tinyurl.com/This-Page-go-down
> They won't get votes from Labor heartland with no Campbelltown.

Labor Heartland? both federal and state member are liberal. What labor
heartland?

I notice the Federal liberal member has joined the "its a koala killer"
bandwagon for this version.

[Petzl]

Werriwa (NSW) is Liberal?
Strange "they" haven't mentioned the platypus in Georges river?
But we are promised another $500 to be paid into one's super
--
Petzl
To get rid of Gillard a devout anti-Christ misandrist you have to get rid of Labor
< http://tinyurl.com/Gillards-Massive-Debt >
< http://tinyurl.com/Exploding-Gillard-Debt >
Lies, damned lies and Labor claims
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2008/s2214216.htm
''There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead,''

[Matthew Geier]

An Australian Very Fast Train will only happen after we've been taken over ( by cash buy out, not military action) by the Chinese.
And they will just draw a straight line on the map and turn out the 'dozers.

[Petzl]

Yep our "leaders" are too bent to be straight!