Horror crash in Benalla
Proudly Anonymous
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Four killed in Benalla train crash
October 13 2002
Four people have been killed after a historic steam train collided
with a semi-trailer near Benalla in northern Victoria.
The incident happened at about five to one this afternoon when the
train hit the truck at a crossing on Gillies Road.
One person is seriously injured and the police and coroner are on
their way to the site.
Police said about 30 people were on the train, no other injuries are
known at this stage.
PC
Anonymous) wrote:
>Does anyone know anything else about this?
>
>http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/10/13/1034222674070.html
>
>Four killed in Benalla train crash
>October 13 2002
I honestly don't believe a wedding reception could turn out much worse
than this.
My condolences to those involved.
PC
MrGunzel
Apparently the death are SRV crews
Fucking trucks ....
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Paul in Melbourne
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Apparently the train was a charter to Yarrawonga with about 50 passengers on
board.
What a terrible day first with the news from Bali and now this!
Sincere condolences to those affected.
Paul Nicholson
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Ben McMahon
Heathcote Junction Friday night and was down the station waiting for its
return when I got the sad news :-(
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> Does anyone know anything else about this?
It seems the truck collided with the train, not the other way around. The following report gives a fairly different picture.
<http://www.abc.net.au/news/justin/nat/newsnat-13oct2002-104.htm>
Posted: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:33 AEST
Three killed in Benalla train crash
Police have confirmed three people have died and a woman has been critically injured in a railway level crossing smash in Benalla in Western Victoria.
The accident involved an historic steam locomotive and a B-double loaded with flour.
At least 50 people were on board the train when the accident happened at the Gillies Street level crossing about 1:00pm.
The train engine and tender were turned on their side by the impact and the leading carriage was also derailed.
The accident happened on a spur line as the train was heading from Yarrawonga to Melbourne after an excursion.
Police say the seriously injured woman has been flown to the Alfred Hospital in Melbourne and other passengers are being counselled.
coke
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Teaa
Has just come on the news here in New Zealand.
My thoughts are with the family of the victims at this time.
David
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M aikha
I would like to express my sincere condolences as well to the perished
crew of this steam locomotive.
Many of us (Young enthusiasts) have begun to reconsider their dreams
of one day, driving steam engines, after this tragedy has occurred.
Maikha "V" Ly
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Al
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Just out of curiosity, have you also put on hold any plans to get a driver's
licence after the crash in the Southern Highlands last week??
Al
Al
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Condolences to all involved. Not a happy ending to a joyous occasion.
Al
James Brook
>
> Many of us (Young enthusiasts) have begun to reconsider their dreams
> of one day, driving steam engines, after this tragedy has occurred.
>
Driving a car is a far more dangerous activity than driving a steam
locomotive. I think we should all remember that Steamrail and other
preservation groups in Australia all have incredible safety records.
Fortunately, accidents like this are very few and far between. This is
probably the most serious accident directly involving the crew of a
steam locomotive that I can remember.
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Tezza
> of one day, driving steam engines, after this tragedy has occurred.
Nothing to do with it being a steam engine.
M aikha
I actually don't plan on getting a driver's licence, yet, as I am in
no hurry unlike me fellow peers at school.
The accidents in the Southern Highlands has put off other people I
know who were going for their L's after turing 16yrs,
Maikha "V" Ly
P.S. I haven't reconsidered my ambition to drive a steam train one
day.
David Bromage
> Condolences to all involved. Not a happy ending to a joyous occasion.
I would also like to extend my condolences to the family and friends
of the crew.
In the one radio report I heard, somebody from the local CFA appeared
to be defending the truck driver, saying it was normally a quiet line
and nobody would have been expecting a train.
Cheers
David
david
terrible news. One of those fine railwaymen was a friend of mine, I
cannot believe it - still. Because the names have not been released I
will say he was a active railway man, a caring father of two and a
husband. He was a railwayman who will be missed by many an organization
for tireless work he did.
I may copy many of your emails for the wife, so I can show the support
the whole community has given. I know what the other victim's families &
friends are going through, my deepest thoughts are there for them as
well. What a tragic event, and a horrible death they had (yes I am
rather upset, please forgive).
We wait to see the outcome, and I'm afraid we are a little dark at the
truck driver - but lets not get too
judgmental.
If you have any happy photos video etc of the train, please contact me
off list, I would appreciate it.
If you know the crossing, let me know. If you can point me to how I can
follow the investigation, let me know.
Regards to a friend on a dark dark day,
David Head
PS is there any promotional campaigns to educate people about level
crossing, and the danger ??
david
drive a steam train,
he was was a friend, and I know this - he taught many a driver. He would
be happy to know the art of driving a steam train would live on. Do it !
Just don't become a truck driver.......
Regards,
David Head
PC
wrote:
>In the one radio report I heard, somebody from the local CFA appeared
>to be defending the truck driver, saying it was normally a quiet line
>and nobody would have been expecting a train.
I heard somewhere that by law, all trucks must stop at any unprotected
level crossing they approach, whether or not it shows a stop or only a
give way sign. Either this truck failed to stop or it failed to look
before proceeding.
There is no way this truckie could get off, and chances are he'll get
hit with culpable driving, something that usually involves a few years
behind bars.
Unfortunately, those of us who lost friends have still lost more than
that truckie ever will. May they rest in peace.
PC
Ben McMahon
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Thomas Pacy
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M aikha wrote:
I also still want to get my steam driving "ticket" and also
qualifications to drive other motive power too, but I would like to say
that even though I am not a supporter of cars, I do want to get my
driver's liscense ASAP so I can go driving around chasing trains!
Thanks,
Tom Pacy
Ask if you want to know!!!!!!!! :-)
stopping then theres intent to harm/hurt/kill. He should get life behind
bars.
BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY i say.
Skippy
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Tony Gatt
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> I can tell you that one of those killed would encourage you to aim to
> drive a steam train,
> he was was a friend, and I know this - he taught many a driver. He would
> be happy to know the art of driving a steam train would live on. Do it !
I can confirm that David.
As the man who gave me all the encouragement to drive miniature steam, I
know full well he would have wanted everyone to follow that dream.
As a friend, he will be dearly missed, but the enjoyable memories I have
combined with his passion will be alive with me forever.
Goodbye my friend.
Tony
M aikha
> drive a steam train,
> he was was a friend, and I know this - he taught many a driver. He would
> be happy to know the art of driving a steam train would live on. Do it !
Just do it, as they say.
>
> Just don't become a truck driver.......
>
I won't, but do plan on getting a heavy vehicle licence.
Maikha "V" Ly
theintercityplatform.iwarp.com
M aikha
> M aikha wrote:
> >
> > Many of us (Young enthusiasts) have begun to reconsider their dreams
> > of one day, driving steam engines, after this tragedy has occurred.
> >
>
> Driving a car is a far more dangerous activity than driving a steam
> locomotive. I think we should all remember that Steamrail and other
> preservation groups in Australia all have incredible safety records.
> Fortunately, accidents like this are very few and far between. This is
> probably the most serious accident directly involving the crew of a
> steam locomotive that I can remember.
>
I have been told that not long ago last week, they had a Public
Liability insurance rescue package from the VIC Government.
Maikha "V" Ly
theintercityplatform.iwarp.com
Michael Hendy
My sincerest condolences to all involved :(
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Michael Hendy
glen schackier
The law in regards to trucks stopping at unprotected level crossings
only applies is the truck is caring bulk dangerous goods, and for busses if
the are carrying more than 30 passengers.
I am originally from Victoria and have done many trips behind K183, but
being in the NT we get very little in-regard to incidents like this. So send
my condolences to the families of those involved and thank the rest of you
for keeping me informed via this news group.
Glen Schackier
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John Wayman
book at him.
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Al
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> I am both a truck driver and a train enthusiast.
> The law in regards to trucks stopping at unprotected level crossings
> only applies is the truck is caring bulk dangerous goods, and for busses
if
> the are carrying more than 30 passengers.
> I am originally from Victoria and have done many trips behind K183,
but
> being in the NT we get very little in-regard to incidents like this. So
send
> my condolences to the families of those involved and thank the rest of you
> for keeping me informed via this news group.
You'd have enough happening with Bali keeping things busy in the territory
now ??
Al
Condolences to those involved in that as well.
David Johnson
wrote:
>On 13 Oct 2002 16:55:26 -0700, dbro...@omni.com.au (David Bromage)
>wrote:
>
>>In the one radio report I heard, somebody from the local CFA appeared
>>to be defending the truck driver, saying it was normally a quiet line
>>and nobody would have been expecting a train.
>
>I heard somewhere that by law, all trucks must stop at any unprotected
>level crossing they approach, whether or not it shows a stop or only a
>give way sign. Either this truck failed to stop or it failed to look
>before proceeding.
I've heard something similar, but I thought it only applied to trucks
hauling dangerous goods.
But then again, if the truck stops before crossing, it will be on the
crossing for longer...
David Johnson
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http://www.ozemail.com.au/~trainman/
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They should be claiming on the truck driver's insurance.