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Brian Ford

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Jun 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/29/99
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I know I've been away from the hobby a bit , but...
is it just me or did anyone else's heart almost stop at the cost of these?
$300.00 for a PLASTIC, poly-u and metal kit that makes up ONE carriage -
Surely that cant be right?
Christ on a cruller.... I think Ill scrap any ideas for a string of 8. Or
even 4...

www.kewiz.com.au/hoscale.htm

getting my breath back

Brian Ford

Rod

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Jun 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/30/99
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Brian Ford wrote in message <3778...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>...
What's worse they are not for the inexperienced, and when I looked at them
at a recent Exhibition, I thought it fair comment when the retailer
mentioned their similarity to some horrible Iron Horse Models of 25 years
ago...5 mm thick sides and all.
I would say a fool might pay $40 for this quality, I would not pay $15.
[read am not desperate enough to pay out hard earned cash for this stuff]
now if they were made of brass....that would be different, but my old mate
John S would want $1200 plus and that is out of the question too!
Rod

bf0...@hotmail.com

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Jun 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/30/99
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I looked at them at the recent Parramatta N Scale Exhibition.

When I saw the price I thought that I was seeing things too.

For an 8-Car set it is marginal. For a single car: good luck to them.

Brett


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Graeme Hearn

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Jul 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/4/99
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Rod,
First off Iron Horse Models were not making kits 25 years ago. If
your think about it there were two brands Freemont and MR. We took over the
dies about 14 years ago after Freemont and MR had been making their kits for
some 26 years.
Secondly the price of the 4 car Suburban Body Kits are $37.30 They
are made with a completely different material.
Our Sydney Suburbans have been used on layouts at The Liverpool
Exhibition for several years.
This reminds me of the large Victorian layout that I seen at the
Camberwell Exhibition last time I was there. I asked the operator if he had
any Friedman MR or Iron Horse Models on the layout and was told that there
was none of that junk on here. I then asked him about a some of the models
and lo and behold He did have a lot of our kits on his layout in fact we
found something like 30 of our kits operating on the layout.
Graeme Hearn
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Graeme Hearn

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Jul 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/4/99
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That should be Freidmont and MRC

Graeme Hearn

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Jul 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/5/99
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Since I made mention of our Iron Horse Model Kits I have had a flood of
Emails asking if I still make various kits. Here is our list.
Graeme Hearn


G & J Hearn
11 Hay Street Yerong Creek NSW 2642 Australia
Ph & Fax: 61 2 69 203726

Iron Horse Models Australian Body Kits

Item No. Item Cost (A$)
F001 48 Class 1 Piece Body Kit 'HO' NSW $12.95
F002 49 Class 1 Piece Body Kit 'HO' NSW $12.95
F003 422 Class 1 Piece Body Kit 'HO' NSW $12.95
F004 70 Class 1 Piece Body Kit 'HO' NSW $7.55
F005 71 Class 1 Piece Body Kit 'HO' NSW $12.95
F006 46 Class 1 Piece Body Kit 'HO' NSW $12.95
F007 85 Class 1 Piece Body Kit 'HO' NSW $12.95
F008 Sydney Suburban 1927 4 Car Set 'HO' $37.30
F009 Sydney Suburban 1932 4 Car Set 'HO' $37.30
F010 Double Deck Sydney Suburban 4 Car Set 'HO' $37.30
F011 Sputnick Suburban S Set 4 car set HO $37.30
F012 Sputnick Suburban W set 4 car set HO $37.30
F013 Double Deck Interurban 4 car set HO $37.30
F014 Standard Suburban 2 car set HO $20.95
F015 Standard Suburban Wood Trailer 2 car set HO $20.95
F016 Bradfield Suburban Steel Trailer 2 car set HO $20.95
F017 Bradfield Suburban Wood Trailer 2 car set HO $20.95
F018 Double Deck Interurban 2 car set HO $20.95
F019 Bradfield Parcel Van HO $12.50
F020 Standard Parcel Van HO $12.50
F021 FHG Brake Van HO NSW Multipiece $6.50
F022 JHG Brake Van HO NSW Multipiece $6.50
F023 GHG Brake Van HO NSW 1 Piece $7.50
F024 KHG Brake Van HO NSW 1 Piece $7.50
F025 MHG Brake Van HO NSW Multi Piece $6.50
F026 LHG Brake Van HO NSW Multi Piece $6.50
F027 PHG Brake Van HO NSW 1 Piece $7.00
F028 BDE Gondola HO NSW Multi Piece $5.95
F029 BD Gondola HO NSW Multi Piece $5.95
F030 JLX Louvered Van HO NSW Multi Piece $5.95
F031 KLY Louvered Van HO NSW Multi Piece $5.95
F032 MLV Louvered Van HO NSW Multi Piece $5.95
F033 MLK Louvered Van HO NSW Multi Piece $5.95
F034 WVX Box Car HO NSW Multi Piece $5.95
F035 LLV Louvered Van HO NSW Multi Piece $5.95
F036 TRC Refrigator Van NSW Multi Piece $5.95
F037 WH-WHX Wheathopper HO 1 Piece $6.80
F038 BCH Coal Hopper HO NSW 1 Piece $6.80
F039 BWH Wheathopper HO NSW 1 Piece $6.80
F040 K Cattle Wagon HO Qld 1 Piece $6.80
F041 QLX Louvered Van HO Qld 1 piece $6.80
F042 Tram Sydney O Class Powering HO 1 Piece $12.75
F043 Tram Sydney O Class Trailer HO 1 Piece $12.75
F044 Tram Sydney O Breakdown HO Multi Piece $12.75
F045 Tram Sydney R Class HO Multi Piece $12.75
F046 Tram Sydney K Class Powering HO Multi Piece $10.50
F047 Tram Sydney K Class Trailer HO Multi Piece $10.50
F048 Tram Sydney J Class HO Multi Piece $10.50
F049 Tram Melbourne Z3 Class HO 1 Piece $12.75
F050 Spirit 4 car set A Vic Multi Piece $27.00
F051 Spirit 4 car set B Vic Multi Piece $27.00
F052 Rub 4 car set A HO NSW Multi Piece $27.00
F053 Rub 4 car set B HO NSW Multi Piece $27.00
F054 Sunlander 4 car set HO Qld Multi Piece $27.00
F055 AL20 Electric Test Car HO NSW Multi Piece $12.50
F056 VEX Box Car HO Commonwealth Rail Multi Piece $6.50
F057 VHX Louvered Van HO Vic Multi Piece $6.50
F058 3 Containers LCL HO $2.85
F059 2 Containers 20Ft HO 1 Piece $2.95
F060 Battery Boxes (8) HO $1.50
F061 Airconditioners (8) HO $1.50
F062 Tram Sydney P Class HO 1 Piece $12.75
F063 Station Masters House HO $8.95
F064 U Lourved Van Vic Ho 1 Pce $4.85
F065 45 Class Diesel NSW HO Multi Pce $12.75
F066 40 Class Diesel Loco NSW HO 1 Pce $12.95
F068 Tram Bogie Less Wheels HO $1.50
F069 2 Tram Bogies Less Wheels $2.85
F070 45 Class Diesel Loco Body NSW HO 1 Pce $13.50
F071 FO Coaches 4 Car Set NSW 'N' Multi Pce $20.50
F072 HFO Coach NSW HO Multi Pce $7.50
F073 FO Coach NSW HO Multi Pce $7.50
F074 LFX Dogbox Coach NSW 'HO' Multi Pce $7.50
F075 EHO Guards Van NSW 'HO' Multi Pce $7.50
F076 Cub Cars 6 Car Set NSW 'HO' Multi Pce $40.50
F077 HFL Coach 2nd BA NSW 'HO' Multi Pce $7.50
F078 HFL Coach 2nd BB NSW 'HO' Multi Pce $7.50
F079 KKG Horse Box NSW HO Multi Pce $6.50
F080 Builders Plate 53 Class $6.50
F081 TRC Refrigerator Van NSW 'N' 1 Pce $3.95
F082 BCH Coal Hopper NSW 'N' 1 Pce $3.95
F083 BRH Cement Hopper NSW 'N' 1 Pce $3.95
F084 BWH Wheat Hopper NSW 'N' 1 Pce $3.95
F085 MHG Guards Van NSW 'N' 1 Pce $3.95
F086 RUB Coaces 4 Car Set A NSW 1 Pce $16.50
F087 RUB Coaches 4 Car Set B NSW 1 Pce $16.50
F088 U Louvered Van VR 'N' 1 Pce $3.95
F089 T Van VR 'N' 1 Pce $3.95
F090 B Van VR 'N' 1 Pce $3.95
F091 GY Open Wagon VR 'N' 1 Pce $3.95
F092 IA Open Wagon VR 'N' 1 Pce $3.95
F093 Z Guards Van Wood VR 'N' 1 Pce $3.95
F094 Z Guards Van Steel VR 'N' 1 Pce $3.95
F095 Loco Body S GM 42 Style 'N' 1 Pce $7.75
F096 FO Coach NSW 'HO' 1 Pce $8.50
F097 B Class Loco Body VR 'HO' 1 Pce $11.75
F098 Per Way Sleeping Quaters 'HO' 1 Pce $6.95
F099 CO Van Qld Multi Pce $6.95
F100 43 Class Loco Body NSW 'N' 1 Pce $8.50
F101 OHG Guards Van NSW 'HO' Multi Pce $6.50
F102 38 Tender Body Fit Lima NSW 'HO' 1 Pce $6.50
F103 UB Van VR 'N' 1 Pce $3.85
F104 44 Class Pilots NSW 'HO' 1 Pce $1.50
F105 VHO Guards Van NSW 'HO' Multi Pce $12.95
F106 MHO Guards Van NSW 'HO' Multi Pce $12.95
F107 KP Mail Van NSW 'HO' Multi Pce $12.95
F108 EHO Guards Van NSW 'HO' 1 Pce $15.65
F109 TAM Coach Crown Light NSW 'HO' $12.95
F110 TAM Coach Rebuilt 'HO' Multi Pce $12.95
F111 AE Coach VR 'HO' Multi Pce $13.95
F112 Interurban Single Deck 2 Car Set NSW 'HO' 1 Pce $25.95
F113 Interurban Single Deck Bec Windows NSW 'HO' 1 Pce $25.95
F114 BL Coach NSW 'HO' Multi Pce $7.50
F115 HFL Passenger Brake NSW 'HO' Multi Pce $7.50
F116 RFL Coach Economy Buffet NSW 'HO'Mutli Pce $7.50
F117 FL Coach 2nd Class NSW 'HO' Multi Pce $7.50
F118 BOB Coaces 6 Car Set NSW 'HO' Multi Pce $40.50
F119 HR Passenger Brake NSW 'N' 1 Pce $7.50
F120 Australian Country House 'HO' $8.50
F121 Suburban Garage & BBQ 'HO' $9.50
F122 S Open Wagon NSW 'N' (3) 1 Pce $8.95
F123 N Car 7 Coach Set 1939 NSW 'HO' 1 Pce $64.95
F124 Small Shed Multi Pce $5.95
F125 Z Vans 1 Wood 1 Steel VR 'N' 1 Pce $7.55
F126 U Lourved Van 16 Ton VR 'N' 1 Pce $3.85
F127 48 Class Pilots NSW 'HO' $1.50
F128 Sydney Suburban 2 Car W Set NSW 'N' 1 Pce $17.50
F129 Sydney Suburban 4 Car W Set NSW 'N' Scale 1 Pce $32.50

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Graeme Hearn

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Derick Wuen

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Jul 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/6/99
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Graeme Hearn wrote in message ...

>Since I made mention of our Iron Horse Model Kits I have had a flood of
>Emails asking if I still make various kits. Here is our list.
>Graeme Hearn
>
>
>G & J Hearn
>11 Hay Street Yerong Creek NSW 2642 Australia
>Ph & Fax: 61 2 69 203726
>
Snipped the full list.

Thanks for that, I wondered where the Friedmont/MRC range had gone. They are
now the Iron Horse range. I built up quite a few of these years ago. They
take a bit more work than your average shake the box kit, but they are
better than starting from scratch, particularly if you need a largeish
number. They reward careful planning and finishing.

I have some questions about the models of the HO "sparks", which
contributors to this NG may be able to answer....

1. These are body kits. Are there sources of reasonably prototypical running
gear (bogies, pantographs)? The locos and freight wagons have a readily
adaptable supply, but what are people using for the sparks? In a 4-car set,
would one car with 2 spuds or black beetles do ok? Or should we look at
stretching a diesel mech?

2. As far as I can tell there was no such thing as "1932 stock". According
to a couple of sources (Keenan, Churchman) there was "1921 stock" AKA
"Bradfield" and "1927 stock" AKA "Standard". Is the F008 reference below
therefore models of Bradfields, and the F009 reference models of Standards?

F008 Sydney Suburban 1927 4 Car Set 'HO' $37.30
F009 Sydney Suburban 1932 4 Car Set 'HO' $37.30

3. If F009 are Standards, how is F014 different? Driving trailer?

F014 Standard Suburban 2 car set HO $20.95

4. I guess ref F015 are models of what was officially referred to as "1919
stock" i.e. conversions from FO/BI steel-framed end-platform cars, not to be
confused with wooden (unsheathed) Bradfields. Confirmation?

F015 Standard Suburban Wood Trailer 2 car set HO $20.95

5. Are refs F016 and F017 different to ref F008? If indeed F008 is not
Bradfields, then I guess this range does not include a Bradfield driving
motor, other than the parcel van offering.

F016 Bradfield Suburban Steel Trailer 2 car set HO $20.95
F017 Bradfield Suburban Wood Trailer 2 car set HO $20.95

6. Is ref F010 an S-set?

F010 Double Deck Sydney Suburban 4 Car Set 'HO' $37.30

Please excuse the large number of questions, but I did not pay a lot of
attention to the spark models when these kits were on offer years ago..... I
was more intent on getting something together for the brass steamers to
pull.

Edward....@kewiz.com.au

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Jul 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/8/99
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Dear Mr. Ford,
I have not been following this page.... only because I have been busy
putting the quality (I want for my own self) into the Tulloch Power
Car. There are $95 worth of Australian - Steam Era Wheels Black
Beetle bogies under it, $45 worth of pantographs, some Ian Lindsay
castings will be in it (he still has not given me a price on these)...
$$$$ tied up in brass for the prototype and mould patterns.... $$$$
out in payroll to employees other than myself.... about four months of
my time........ all so I could have a couple of models for myself and
make them available to others. This was supposed to be a hobby for
me.

After this kit gets going, I will work up bogies for for a non-powered
kit and pricing.

As for the price of the kit.... Ian's 86 class loco sells for $250
WITHOUT $95 worth of pantographs. He is still making, packing and
posting them out to customers. I think this kit has been on the
market for three or four years.

This is my second kit. Every quality issue in the Tulloch Trailer kit
(my first kit) brought to me (not to everybody's mates) was addressed
to the customer's satisfaction. I take pride in the fact that I have
received prepaid orders for the Tulloch Power Car Kit. I am tempted
to scan and place on the net all the encouraging letters I have
received from customers. It was their encouragement that kept the
first kit going and kept me interested in proceeding to others. It
was the kindness of people in this hobby that got that first kit going
and I have tried to thank them.

Kind Regards,
Edward Gallier
MD Kewiz Pty Limited


On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:12:44 +1000, "Brian Ford" <bdf...@tpg.com.au>
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