Once again, you have to learn to take a breath and listen to others, yep its a big world and there is other people out there that will know more about the network than you and I have not doubt that further up the feed chain there is people that know more about it than me.
In response to your comments;
Yeah, but if CFA Command don't yet have full channel details then you =Â sure as hell won' t have it all.
CFA Command is very aware of the new channel allocations, and have been for some time, there has been extensive planning and interagency co-ordination with DSE and VicPol over this. Do you think we just decided to change things in the radios because we want to (or even to make your web site information no longer current), people have better things to do. Sorry but I do have the list (in several formats, exl, codeplug, hard copy). Take a breath and read between the lines, I might be paid to know the freq's. You can attack me all you like, I have nothing to prove, as I already know what they are, but you seem to want to attack anyone that offers you any criticism or advise that you may not be up to date on some of this info.
And besides, you never checked the DSE section(s) of the site which have =Â the other DSE chs in them.
Looked there, they are also no longer current, there is additions and minor changes in some of there configuration
If you really had the list you'd make it public. And they are not old =Â channel allocations as you say-all the channels stay the same with the =Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â the addition of some new channels, it is not a complete review of the =Â enitre system as you put it. There's about 20 new chs i don't yet = have-not 250-like you claim. IT just fills in the gaps.
I do have the list, its not my place to be posting it to a public forum but I am aware that it is already public knowledge, I dont have to prove anything by big noting myself and stating that I am the only person that has a correct list of CFA channels. There is new freq allocations in the new list as well. I never stated everything was to change (in the current operational channels i.e. fireground and Metro VicFire channels), only ever pointed out that your list is no longer current. The new file loaded into the radios has only 3 spare places (just because you cant see them or access them, dont mean they are not there) Yes the old channels stay the same, but there is numerous new channels (infact all the gaps between the old channels are now filled with IMC's of which are new freq's previously not used by the CFA) and there is now the new Dispatch channels (6 of), the VMR (1 of) , IBR (1 of) and field repeater channels (8 of) and a few other changes.
And as it currently stands all the old info is what's still in use, with =Â only Region 15 starting to test, with everyone else still operting on = THE OLD INFO, which is-at this point-still valid. ON.y R15 and R22 have = had the new program installed so far, Melb gets it last.
Yes, the old is still in use, it has to be for operational purposes (it would be a bit embarrassing to have different channel numbers and names, also confusing in an operational incident, all radios still need to be inter compatible), but your source is partial incorrect, yes R15 and 22 have been reprogrammed last year. Other regions have also commenced reprogrammed. You might have guessed that one can't have every radio programmed over night, slight logistical problem in that, so there will be delays until all radios are reprogrammed (there is approx. 9000 authorised authority radios out there). It just means the the older version radios can't use any of the newer channels.
So we were both partially right and partially wrong, but i share any = info i can find with anyone-everyone, some scanner users like to be = greedy with thier info, ireckon if you had the new ch info then you'd = post it for all to see
I dont see how you have been correct at all, some time back another person posted to this newsgroup that there was new channels and channel names you replied along the lines that that person was wrong. All the time I have stated your information was (as in it was previously) correct, but is not now due to the new radio file being programmed into the radio. i.e.. there is new channels. You just failed to stop and take a breath and accept the fact that you dont have all the new info. I have made the info available to others (as have numerous other people), its on the net why dont you find it. I was specific in my constructive comments made to you, you even attacked me and since that time you have now found out that I was correct in what I stated. (Have not seen a whoops I was wrong in attacking these people that tried to tell me new info). I was going to provide the info, but you just got too cocky, so you will not be seeing it from me. I am sure that you will get the info, as its common knowledge.
Next time someone has something to say about the correctness of your info, take a step back and the time to listen to others, its one of the best way to learn. I could go further and point out some other minor errors in other parts of your website, but that would be petty and I am sure that you would tell me I am wrong, so why would I waste my breath, apparently in your eyes, what I have to say is not accurate.
So how did you go this morning, were you able to talk to VicFire (CCT) on Ch201 on your Eltham radio. Did you take the time to check what version was programmed into the radio? my guess is it was not V8.
Enjoy...
Â
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I sympathize with the ICO post, however, that truly sucked big time.
Ken
He doesn't want to give the information to you, and personally if I had that
information I wouldn't either. You act like a child and expect to be
respected. Why don't you find the information yourself like you claim you
always do, instead of sitting on your chaffed arse trying to make us feel
sorry for you.
Ashley you are nothing but scum. Now go and "bum Michael" cause "you suck".
Jabba
"Ashley Geelan" <age...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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"Ashley Geelan" <age...@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:InmMb.7004$Wa....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Sure, and if that happened the government, state or federal, would
have the information removed very quickly and the kid would find
himself in very deep maure.
I seem to recall a posting (lifted from your website??) where
> you were all up in arms about protection of classified
> material/information (related to comms intercepted from Aust military).
Bit of a two faced little grub, isn't he.
> I hope you have no plans to work in a role requiring a security
> clearance - with what you have posted, you would be automatically seen
> as being not a trustworthy individual - with the other lies regarding
> your claims of having an amateur radio licence, there is little that
> makes me think I could trust you or your comments/information.
It wouldn't matter where ashley wanted to work, nobody with more than
two working brain cells would want him, not even to sweep lunch room
floors.
Sure, and if that happened the government, state or federal, would
have the information removed very quickly and the kid would find
himself in very deep maure.
I seem to recall a posting (lifted from your website??) where
> you were all up in arms about protection of classified
> material/information (related to comms intercepted from Aust military).
Bit of a two faced little grub, isn't he.
> I hope you have no plans to work in a role requiring a security
> clearance - with what you have posted, you would be automatically seen
> as being not a trustworthy individual - with the other lies regarding
> your claims of having an amateur radio licence, there is little that
> makes me think I could trust you or your comments/information.
It wouldn't matter where ashley wanted to work, nobody with more than
<no-...@no-one.com> wrote in message news:40013170...@no-one.com...
Jabba: Mindless dribble. Completely irrelevant to the topic. Radar detectors
have nothing to do with you being a kleptomaniac, idiot.
Cops, don't you mean defacto tax collectors?
Jabba: Cop is slang for Police Officer, Copper used to be the slang for tax
collector (with the pun being the copper coin). Do you even know what
defacto means, .
And personally, whislt there are some good cops out there, there are just as
many who abuse their power all day every day and deserve to be at least
sacked (not just given watchroom for a week), like the one's in Eltham who
used to take beer off myself (on 2 occasions when i was buying it for
function at CFA station on meeting nite and the lcoal coppers where FORCED
to return it by thier boss)
Jabba: Why does buying alcohol for a CFA function exclude you from the law?
You think being in the CFA makes you some type of hero? Wake up! If you were
underage and carrying alcohol then it should be confiscated, fool.
when they had no right to (it was unopened-no law in Vic about possession of
alcholol-just the sale of and consumption of it)
Jabba: Bollocks. Do some research son. As per usual you opened your trap
without thinking.
The Eltham coppers also used to smoke dope, by simply stealing it off
dealers.as do the one's near Braodmeadows Primary who smoke cones with the
crossing lady every night-in uniform. Sounds like crap, but when i walked
into this person home to score, i thought i was stuffed, two copppers
sitting down and my mate's mum sitting there-i thought she was ebing raided,
but no, the coppers had stolen dope off a kid down the street and turned up
there to smoke it!! Turns out they needed to borrow my billy.So if cops like
that get shot, or those that take people for a hiding out of town then i say
let them die. Have a drive down Winifred St Broadmeadows, on a school
weekday afternoon and look closely at the hosue on the corner opposite the
school. Hope your children don't cross at that crossing-the x-ing ladies
always smashed.
Jabba: Bollocks.
Or the time the Eltham cops refused to direct traffic at a majopr accidcent
(it's thier job-not the CFA's to direct traffic) but they wanted to finish
there Macca's breakfast first, in which time an Eltham volunteer was almost
hit & run as a driver sped through the accident zone-while the coppers
looked out the Macca's window and watched-so again I hope these cops die,
then there's more good ones. Or the big fat wog detective from Preston CIB
who said i'd been doing armed hold-ups on servos with a pistol and he'd do
whatever it took to get it out of me (Lucky for me my Dad was right behind
him and overhead this)even though i've never seen, let alone used, a pistol
in my life. So why would I wish the coppers the best?
Jabba: Bollocks.
You can't beat them by fighting back or lodging complaints, but you can by
making as much info as I can find publicly available for others to use, if
that person happens to be a crook-if he didn't get it from me there'd be
another way, someone else, so it really doesn't matter to me, that's why I
always took my scanner to Community Work and let all the others share the
info i had, many believed that scanners were illegal-at least now
Melbourneites know that's bullshit. I even helped a truckie save $$ by
showing him how to avoid both police and VIcroads detection with a scanner.
Jabba: Bollocks. Using a scanner to AVOID detection by Police and Vicroads
is an offence sonny. Its parasites like you who think they know everything.
Get a job, scum.
And yes, the Corrections Department tried to stop me taking my scanner and
frequency books etc to Comm Work but the rules clearly stated a 'radio' was
allowed at CW-it didn't state what frequencies it had to have in it, so they
where powerless to stop me taking my scanner to CW.
And yes, I did go through the waste bins, looked over the walls at Tally Ho,
i didn't start going through people's desks or something- I just picked up
any 'rubbish' which helped me make my orginal CFA channel list, not my fault
they forgot to shred it. And took notes on anything I could find pined to
the wall-since when was taking notes and bieng observant a crime?
Jabba: I wasn't aware you were homeless. Being observant is not a crime, but
removing items, even pieces of scrap paper from somebody else's wastebin
would be deemed illegal, idiot.
I even went for a job at VIcfire when it changed over (wouldn't get it-have
a crn)to ECV just to have a snoop around, and again i came out with more
info on the radio network.
Or another place to check is the dumpsters out the back of the VPC in the
city, some very intersting stuff has been found there by myself and the
media. Or the bins of the St KIlda Rd police complex-or even your local cop
shop on bin day. What stealing rubbish is a crime? Not my fault it usually
has some juicy stuff written on it!!
Is this the Secret Scanner Society or something where everyone has the info
but no-one wants to tell it (as pointed out in 1990 CB Action many people
know, no one wants to share).
Jabba: Secret Scanner Society? HA! Not at all. We just refuse to share
information with bottom feeders such as yourself, who clearly have no ethics
and no moral values. Grow a brain, child.
I don't care if the CFA or any other agency or business want thier radio
info their or not if I find it and it's not a national security issue-up it
goes. If they really didn't want us to know they would use encyrption or
mobile phones.
A CFA member turned up here today with the complete list of all the new
frequencies with inputs, outputs, repeater locations, CTCSS tones (RX & TX)
and will be available later today. Now using two other versions of v8 i've
been sent and this info i have all the details of the new system.
Jabba: So what happened to you spending hours driving around finding all the
information yourself? Silly me for believing you.
I will be among the first with all the new CFA frequency info on-line even
before the new chs go online. Will the CFA be impressed? Probably not. Will
volunteers want the info? Probably some will to re-program thier listening
sets. Would I remove it if the CFA asked. If it's a $$fine, then no, more
than 3mths jail time then yes I would remove it from my site and post it
somewhere on the net from a public library (that doens't have cameras)
without booking the pc. (No record of your attendance at this pc)
Jabba: Each to their own. You are obviously a dedicated scanner listener, no
really.
PS. I did read somewhere (search the usa scanner sites-that's where i saw
this) that in USA a guy was arrested for cordless listening got off the
charges as his lawyer successfully argued that a radio signal-as it
travelled through air (Ie not a fixed object)could be intercepted as it
wasn't this guy listening to the phone, but rather the failure of the
telephone user to make sure his signal didn't pass the scanner users
antenna!!.
Jabba: Mindless dribble. Completely irrelevant to the topic.
In short, he compared radio signals in the air to the air and won, radio
signals belong to us all they are there floating past-if people don't want
to be heard that bad then they should either encyrpt themselves or get off
the radio or use leaky feeder technology.
Jabba: Mindless dribble. Completely irrelevant to the topic.
Now go and "bum Mike" cause "you suck".
Despite all your protestations, you still admit to criminal activity and
shady practices. You love to prove how much secret stuff you know.
This group consists of a great many knowledgable people with many many years
of experience in various areas of the industry. We all know 'secret stuff'
and we all have to use our better judgement as to whether it is shared or
not. You don't seem to understand this.
We bow to the greater knowledge of others and we learn from each other. I
recall you mentioning that you had been listening to a scanner since you
were 8. I thought back and realised that I had been listening to scanners
and radio receivers in general for 20 years BEFORE YOU WERE BORN!! But would
you take my advice about the errors on your aviation pages? Hell no! I'm
still awaiting the .wav file you promised.
There are others in this group with far greater experience here than my own
and I will continue to learn from them. You would do well, little
Grasshopper, to do the same.
Brad.
Maybe you have, and maybe you haven't but soon will be. This latest
mumble fuck rant of yours is so close to having you hit with a deffo
case by the relevant cops it isn't funny. If defamation doesn't do you
in I reckon every cop at the paces you slagged will have your trarner
rego number firmly fixed in their minds when they are on the streets.
(Reams of ashley dribble deleted to conserve electrons.)
"Ashley Geelan" <age...@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:InmMb.7004$Wa....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
So if you've burned a cd that wasn't already your won music (Ie you owned
the record but want to protect so you copied the lp to cd-that's fine)
I know your a burner wolfman so and the others who've ever burned a cd it's
the pot calling the kettle black.
Of Wolf & Man " <w_j_wo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Ken
"Ashley Geelan" <age...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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Copying music OR software disks is not the issue, BOY. The issue is
your arrogant attitude and your potential collision course with a
serious court case. Your childish attempts to change the thread topic
will not pull you out of the hole you are digging for yourself.
>
> So if you've burned a cd that wasn't already your won music (Ie you owned
> the record but want to protect so you copied the lp to cd-that's fine)
>
> I know your a burner
Nope, you don't know jack shit little boy.
wolfman so and the others who've ever burned a cd it's
> the pot calling the kettle black.
Different issue, boy and its not us who are defaming members of the
Victorian Police Services.
Defamation != unauthorised disk copying.
YOU NEED TO GIVE UP WHY YOU ARE BEHIND
THE WOLFMAN HAS YOUR MEASURE
ONLY THE LORD KNOWS WHY YOU ADMITTED YOU WERE A SMACKHEAD
TALKING ABOUT SMACKHEADS WHERE IS YOUR MATE MICHAEL
FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS KNOWN AS A FOUL MOUTH HE SURE IS QUIET
SONOFRALFRF
Alpha
SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO KEEP YOUR BELONGINGS IN ONE PIECE, AND NOT FIND THEM AT
CASH CONVERTERS I SUGGEST YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
HE WON"T HAVE MY MEASURE WHEN I FIX HIS LITTLE RED WAGON.
I SAID I WAS A DOPE SMOKER-NOT A JUNKIE-BIG DIFFERENCE.
WHO GIVES A SHIT. HAVEN"T EVEN BEEN HERE FOR WEEKS AND YOU LOT ARE STILL
CRAPPING ON ABOUT ME. GET A LIFE.
METALLICA ARE HERE.
TURN UP AT THE CONCERT SO WE CAN JUMP ON YOUR HEADS WHILE WE HEADBANG?
Oh sorry, Metallica probably a bit heavy for a bunch of soft cocks.
So whilst i've gone from here, your lives are that exciting you have nothing
better to do than post about me. I was right you cunts have no life.
Want call me a junkie. Come to my front door and say it.
<sonof...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS KNOWN AS A FOUL MOUTH HE SURE IS QUIET-HE"S PROBABL:Y
GOT BETTER THINGS TO DO THAN RELPY TO MOROONS, AS Do I, Bye
>
> SONOFRALFRF
A quick word of advice Ashley, with every word you type you dig
yourself deeper into the pits of stupidity.
Threats?
Lies?
Defamation?
Are all tools of the truly stupid, cut your crap and look to improving
yourself.
If you do, you may find that you get more from life, and maybe, just
maybe you will regain the respect you lost when you started this.
Damian
"Ashley Geelan" <age...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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Adam
"Ashley Geelan" <age...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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yeah, alright, whenever you and your black and white trarner feel up
to the challenge, little boy, come on up and try your luck.
I AM NOT JOKING.
So you say, but why is that everybody else is rolling on the floor
laughing our heads off.
I HAVE YOUR ADDRESS NOW
Okay, here's your chance big boy, be really really brave and post me
address in this group. In other words, little boy, PUT UP or SHUT UP.
> AND WILL BUST THE DOOR IN IF YOU REFUSE TO OPEN IT.
Yeah, yeah, you and waht army.
>
> SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO KEEP YOUR BELONGINGS IN ONE PIECE, AND NOT FIND THEM AT
> CASH CONVERTERS I SUGGEST YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
You mean Shayne Warned, right?
> HE WON"T HAVE MY MEASURE WHEN I FIX HIS LITTLE RED WAGON.
Sorry, I just have to stop you right ther, little boy, its not a
little wagon and its not red. My work vehicle is white, my private
transport, and there are two of them, is green and the other, my
shopping trolley .. nahh, don't worry about it, its in the shed having
its heart massaged.
> I SAID I WAS A DOPE SMOKER-NOT A JUNKIE-BIG DIFFERENCE.
Yeah, you got that almost right, ashley boy, you're a DOPE. You're
also a self confessed and known little shit with no regard for the
law, with at least one conviction, probably more, you are a self
confessed nosy little prick, boozer and herb head.
>
> WHO GIVES A SHIT. HAVEN"T EVEN BEEN HERE FOR WEEKS AND YOU LOT ARE STILL
> CRAPPING ON ABOUT ME. GET A LIFE.
>
> METALLICA ARE HERE.
Big deal. Metallica is a group for poofters and dope smokers.
>
> TURN UP AT THE CONCERT SO WE CAN JUMP ON YOUR HEADS WHILE WE HEADBANG?
We? didn't know you are a schizoid. I'm not surpised though. You have
shown all the indications of severe personality disorders.
>
> Oh sorry, Metallica probably a bit heavy for a bunch of soft cocks.
I'm neither a poof nor a weed smoker. No desire
>
> So whilst i've gone from here, your lives are that exciting you have nothing
> better to do than post about me. I was right you cunts have no life.
If "we" were cunts, little boy, we would have all of your dole money.
>
> Want call me a junkie. Come to my front door and say it.
Its been said, boy, and here it is again - you're a junkie. Now, you
prove you are not.
Its a bloody tragedy. I can't decide whether to piss off to the hills
and hide or sit here and laugh my arse off.
Seriously, the boy, even if he did know where I live, and he doesn't,
with the rain that has fallen here over the last two weeks, he would
need to carry the trarner to my front door. Further, I would see him
coming long before he had any idea where to find me. Oh, the joys of
country living.
I sort of feel one from my maternal grandmother is the best and most
appropriate fit- " A couple of pebbles short of a wheelbarrow load."
Ashley Geelan wrote:
>
>Ashley's drivel snipped...it was too funny to reply and see it there
WOW...going off
of course the old adage
better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool....than to open it
a remove all doubt
so he goes from trying to convince us he is an upstanding citizen to
admitting he smokes illegal drugs and drives a killer car to being a
top, in the know police friend to theatening to steal, rape and pillage,
and sell the stuff to the accomplice of all theives, cashies,
two things come to my mind
Bi-Polar disorder
and
Barry Muller
Kev
My money, and I have more in my office safe than ashley earns in a
month, says that he has neither the balls, ability nor knowledge to
take up the challenge.
How the child is able to find my physical residential and/or work
address from a proxy IP addie has me totally mystified.
Mick has already beaten me to the draw. My thoughts were that he makes Rod
Speed and Phil Allison look sane. It's a wild world we live in..
Adam
And considering he hasn't put his money where his mouth is in the past, I'll
be surprised if he has the balls to reply at all...
Adam
- ------8<--- snip ---8<-----
Sorry Ash, hope you don't mind me not quoting the lurid pile of shit
you call a message.
Wow... I'm truely amazed... I though I'd met some stupid people in my
time, but man, you really take the cake, and the tray, and the
silverware, and amything else that's not nailed down apparently!
Everyone one else seems to have said it, and I can't help but agree.
You're a moron. No...no... that's an insult to the mentally
handicapped everywhere... You're a total smacktard!
But I'll help you Ash... When all are against you, I still care
enough to help you out of the hole you're in.
I'll tell you how to prove them ALL wrong, AND get back your
self-respect and dignity in one hit.
Top yourself.
I mean, face it. You're too stupid to live.
Seppuku is the only way left to you.
- - Dave
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Yeah, and the bloody big thump as his carcass hits the cold hard
ground when the drug dreams end will be a very rude awakening.
>
> And considering he hasn't put his money where his mouth is in the past, I'll
> be surprised if he has the balls to reply at all...
The boy is all mouth, no money and no brains. Its the king of the
suburban kids where it lives with mummy and daddy. Little pimply faced
teenagers have told him so many times about how great he is with
scanners and toy radios that the idiot now believes his own bullshit.
Can't say I have ever seen any of Allison's rants but Speed is like
dust on the Birdsville Track - its everywhere. Rod Speed has impressed
me with his total lack of knowledge of anything. Ashley, on the other
hand, also knows bugger all but ashley is so stupid and idiotic with
his mental wankings that he is almost funny, unlike Speed.
And your posting threats on a public forum. wow your a smart cookie....
>
> SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO KEEP YOUR BELONGINGS IN ONE PIECE, AND NOT FIND THEM
AT
> CASH CONVERTERS I SUGGEST YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
> HE WON"T HAVE MY MEASURE WHEN I FIX HIS LITTLE RED WAGON.
Wow now your pre planning a crime and stating what you are intending to
do.....
> I SAID I WAS A DOPE SMOKER-NOT A JUNKIE-BIG DIFFERENCE.
What difference, you break the law your a grub....
>
> WHO GIVES A SHIT. HAVEN"T EVEN BEEN HERE FOR WEEKS AND YOU LOT ARE STILL
> CRAPPING ON ABOUT ME. GET A LIFE.
>
> METALLICA ARE HERE.
>
> TURN UP AT THE CONCERT SO WE CAN JUMP ON YOUR HEADS WHILE WE HEADBANG?
>
> Oh sorry, Metallica probably a bit heavy for a bunch of soft cocks.
>
> So whilst i've gone from here, your lives are that exciting you have
nothing
> better to do than post about me. I was right you cunts have no life.
>
> Want call me a junkie. Come to my front door and say it.
>
> <sonof...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:829146dd.0401...@posting.google.com...
> > ASHLEY
> >
> > YOU NEED TO GIVE UP WHY YOU ARE BEHIND
> > THE WOLFMAN HAS YOUR MEASURE
> > ONLY THE LORD KNOWS WHY YOU ADMITTED YOU WERE A SMACKHEAD
> > TALKING ABOUT SMACKHEADS WHERE IS YOUR MATE MICHAEL
> > FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS KNOWN AS A FOUL MOUTH HE SURE IS QUIET-HE"S
PROBABL:Y
> GOT BETTER THINGS TO DO THAN RELPY TO MOROONS, AS Do I, Bye
> >
> > SONOFRALFRF
>
>
Time to grow up Ashley boy.
Alpha
Go to aus.electronics, and read and weep (from laughter). Phil Allison
appears to know his stuff to a point, he is just a rude, arrogant bigot who
is smarter than everybody. Blows his own trumpet like you wouldn't believe..
Adam