Pommie q: Triple J
geoff...@dial.pipex.com
Hey guys
As a UK fan of Triple J (when not in Oz I listen over the net) I have
two q's if anyone has any info.?
How many people listen to Triple J/Is it the most popular station in
OZ?
Are there any Triple J fan www sites out there?
23.19 in the UK, and I'm listening to the Triple J breakfast show!
Geoff.
Mike Summers
TripleJ is shit - it is the 15 minute radio station.
Patsy Cline to Greenday - shithouse.
6%. 16-24year old uni students who have an opinion about everything.
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Michael Darragh
In my opinion, Triple J is the most interesting station on radio. And while
it might not rate well (as if they put meters in student dorms or transient
inner-city households), I have noticed an increasing number of businesses
using Triple J for hold music, indicating this is the station listened to in
their offices.
Needless to say these businesses are typically theatre and production
companies, graphic design houses and other artistic places that I typically
deal with. But surely that suggests that places of thought, creativity and
individuality opt for a radio station which plays new music and inspires
debate on a *huge* variety of topics.
To say that Triple J listeners think they know everything is incorrect.
People in my generation (sadly labelled gen x) are craving for reasons and
explanations to everything and Triple J is great for that. Especially when
the alternative is to be spoon-fed garbage by bigoted old farts or listen to
the self-indulgent humour of supposed comedians.
Triple J encourages its audience to think globally and be accepting of
others but apart from that it lets listeners make their own decisions while
paying close attention to the ever-changing changing demands of its various
markets.
The presenters are never blatantly left wing which is a common perception
(then again, a majority of young people have always preferred left wing
politics). If the J did preach to me on topics such as politics I would not
listen. In a recent interview with David Kemp (Education Minister) to
discuss the Government's planned alterations to University funding, I was
delighted by the interviewer's complete objectivity despite the fact most
listeners would want her to rip him to shreds.
My only gripe with the J is that it's nationwide. In some respects I think
this limits it from fully meeting the music demands of respective markets.
By that I mean the music I listen to and enjoy in inner Sydney, where I
live, is a lot different to the music of choice in my hometown of Hervey
Bay, Qld. This nationwide status probably explains the popularity of youth
stations such as Wild FM in Sydney and other community radio stations.
Ultimately the J is a youth radio station and if it keeps kids entertained
and encourages thought and fosters young musicians, well surely that's a
good thing.
Anyway, that's my opinion.
MICHAEL DARRAGH
Make Believe Productions
bg...@tig.com.au
Garry Beattie
> Needless to say these businesses are typically theatre and production
> companies, graphic design houses and other artistic places that I typically
> deal with. But surely that suggests that places of thought, creativity and
> individuality opt for a radio station which plays new music and inspires
> debate on a *huge* variety of topics.
No. It just suggests that most people in that line of work are just as much
out of touch with the real world as what Triple J is!!
> To say that Triple J listeners think they know everything is incorrect.
Hang on a minute while I run that line by my son and his teenage friends!!
> People in my generation (sadly labelled gen x) are craving for reasons and
> explanations to everything and Triple J is great for that.
Are you sure your not watching the Discovery Channel on Satellite??
> Triple J encourages its audience to think globally and be accepting of
> others but apart from that it lets listeners make their own decisions while
> paying close attention to the ever-changing changing demands of its various
> markets.
Sure you can make your own decisions provided they agree with Triple J (just
like most University activist's!!)
> Bay, Qld. This nationwide status probably explains the popularity of youth
> stations such as Wild FM in Sydney and other community radio stations.
>
What figures do you have to back this up?? Where do the community stations show
up in the surveys?? If they are listed under "Other FM's" then why does this
category have such a low volume number??
> Ultimately the J is a youth radio station and if it keeps kids entertained
> and encourages thought and fosters young musicians, well surely that's a
> good thing.
>
Congratulations. I agree with you completley on that.
> Anyway, that's my opinion.
>
And thats what the newsgroup is all about. People expressing their opinions. I
have just expressed mine.
regards
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Ty Frost
Actually Garry the "Other FM" figure's increased in Melbourne a couple of
years ago during a survey, it was directly derived from "Hitz FM" I don't
know the actual figures maybe somebody in Melbourne Can dig them up.
Ty Frost
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Garry Beattie (gar...@4kz.com.au) wrote:
: > Bay, Qld. This nationwide status probably explains the popularity of youth
: > stations such as Wild FM in Sydney and other community radio stations.
: >
:
: What figures do you have to back this up?? Where do the community stations show
: up in the surveys?? If they are listed under "Other FM's" then why does this
: category have such a low volume number??
I remember reading an Immedia article about how the "Other FMs" listing in
Sydney surged to 7% a few months ago. The "industry" widely suspected that
this surge in the ratings was the result from one of Wild's broadcasts.
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> I remember reading an Immedia article about how the "Other FMs" listing
> in Sydney surged to 7% a few months ago. The "industry" widely
> suspected that this surge in the ratings was the result from one of
> Wild's broadcasts.
Don't forget in Sydney you have Wild FM when they are on, and also 96.1
year round, who have been in other FM for more than 5 years now.
Also, some time ago the Sydney FMers had the other FM category taken off
the public survey summary because it was growing.
Now two of them own it and want it in the Sydney survey :-)
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Jack McCaw
Paul Dengate (insinc...@mailexcite.com) wrote:
: > I remember reading an Immedia article about how the "Other FMs" listing
: > suspected that this surge in the ratings was the result from one of
: > Wild's broadcasts.
Interesting - the number of aspirant Youth stations, as well as radio
Rhema has been growing for years. the listeners must be out there..
RAW FM had a major impact in increasing awareness...
:
: Don't forget in Sydney you have Wild FM when they are on, and also 96.1
: year round, who have been in other FM for more than 5 years now.
: Also, some time ago the Sydney FMers had the other FM category taken off
: the public survey summary because it was growing.
What - were they scared that they were going to compete for
advertisers or listeners?
There are now over 140 licenced community radio stations, 8 community TV
stations, and over 150 radio groups around the country wanting to secure a
community broadcasting licence. It is a rapidly expanding media sector.
: Now two of them own it and want it in the Sydney survey :-)
Interesting problem there...
Jack@!
Below is a blurb about the "Other FMs" courtesy of the CBAA...
Community Broadcasting Fact Sheet
************* Community broadcasting ***************
Community broadcasting gives everyone the chance to get involved in radio
and television, to express opinions
and to see and hear really diverse programs. The broadcasting industry
recognises the community sector as a
vital element of Australian media and an important training ground for
presenters, producers, technicians and
administrators. The sector is also amongst the first in the global
community to utilise new media technologies.In
doing so, firmly placing the issues of community access on the agenda, as
society prepares to embrace a range of
new media services.
Diversity of programming
Community Broadcasting reflects the diversity of Australian society.
Community stations are well known for
their program contribution to Australian music, comedy, local news and
current affairs, specialist music,
political issues,etc. The Community Broadcasting sector is also renowned
for providing access to airwaves for
women, indigenous people, ethnic groups, youth and the print handicapped.
Not only as broadcasters, but also as
talent. Community stations will bravely go where others fear to tread.
Funding
Community broadcasting is independent from government. Each year, the
Federal Government contributes
about $3 million to the sector while stations generate about $20 million
from the communities they serve.
Sources of revenue include subscription, membership, fundraisers,
sponsorship and donations. This wide range
of financial sources ensures the independence and diversity of community
broadcasting.
Volunteers
Community broadcasting would not exist without volunteers. There are
approximately 10,000 volunteers around
Australia who contribute their time, energy and creativity free of charge
to community stations. This is a
tremendous resource unequalled by any other media outlet. Volunteers
receive training in broadcasting skills
and many go on to paid employment in the media industry.
Independent control
Community stations are owned and operated by the local community on a
non-profit basis. As well as offering
access to the microphone, community stations encourage members of their
community to be involved in station
management. Democratic management structures ensure that a community
station is always accountable and
relevant to the community.
History
The first community radio licence was granted to 5UV in Adelaide in 1974.
It was the first station to join the
Australian radio band in over 20 years. Soon after this, 2MBS in Sydney
and 3MBS in Melbourne were also on
the FM airwaves.
Paul Dwerryhouse
Garry Beattie <gar...@4kz.com.au> writes:
>No. It just suggests that most people in that line of work are just as much
>out of touch with the real world as what Triple J is!!
>Sure you can make your own decisions provided they agree with Triple J (just
>like most University activist's!!)
>> Ultimately the J is a youth radio station and if it keeps kids entertained
>> and encourages thought and fosters young musicians, well surely that's a
>> good thing.
>>
>Congratulations. I agree with you completley on that.
Garry, I do not feel that is an entirely fair assessment of Triple-J (ok,
you didn't say it, but you agreed with it). It assumes that the majority
of Triple-J's audience are "kids" (ie, say under-18). Aside from the 7pm-10pm
slot, "kids" tend to be at school, hence can't listen. Therefore Triple-J
must do a little more than keep the "kids" entertained.
I have noticed, in this newsgroup, that a large percentage of those involved
with commercial radio have more than a fair degree of resentment towards
Triple-J.
I suspect that a lot of this is because small regional operators with a
captive market do not like the threat it poses to what they consider to
be a God-given monopoly of theirs.
My message to those regional operators is this: _you have brought it upon
yourselves_. I have listened to regional commercial stations from most
of Victoria (esp Shepparton, Wangaratta, Alburty/Wodonga, Bendigo), most of
NSW, Gold & Sunshine Coasts and Tasmania, and by and large they _all_ have
the same bland boring format. Is it any wonder that you're losing chunks
of your audience to Triple-J?
It may not be large chunks you're losing - but it's enough to push down your
advertising revenue to get you worried and create scapegoats.
I'll give you one good reason that I listen to Triple-J.
Yesterday (Saturday) 10am->2pm. Announcer is Robbie Buck. He is a no
nonsense presenter, speaks clearly, seems to have a good knowledge of the
music he's playing. This is some of Triple-J's best.
During those four hours there was:
* no Khe Sanh
* no Phil Collins
* no Spice Girls
* no annoying "cash-calls"
* no football
* no death notices
[I'm sure I could list a _lot_ more].
Instead I heard a good four hours of music that I'm unlikely to hear elsewhere,
because your average regional operator is so conservative their playlist
consists purely of Top-40 + 60's, 70's & 80's (ok Mobbsy, I realise there are
the occasional exceptions). I heard film reviews by people who aren't afraid
of losing advertising revenue when they criticise films that genuinly deserve
to be criticised. And, finally, I get mostly live programming (or, at worst, a
delayed feed. No computer driven shows here...)
Yes, there are shows and announcers on Triple-J that I dislike. And I do get
annoyed at its Sydney-centricity. But I'd rather a national station with a
variety of different programs than the cloned bland rubbish that is Regional
Commercial Radio in Australia. And until regional operators are willing to
produce programming that is more diverse, I'll be listening to the ABC.
But look on the bright side. Some may consider Triple-J to be taking their
"turf", as it were, with Government funding. But if I was in Government,
I'd open every available frequency in all locations to anyone who wished to
have a go at it, thus breaking what are effectively government "subsidies"
to regional commercial operators.
Consider yourselves lucky that you only have one competitor. And with the
lack of government funding available for the ABC, that shouldn't be too
difficult for regionals to compete with, should it?
You can't get rid of it now. Learn to live with it. Produce better programs.
Play different music. Drop your canned "Top 40" programs on weekends
(especially if you play more than one of them). Get announcers that are
intelligent. Throw in some researched programming on topics other than
music and sport.
These things all _can_ be done within the constraints of your budgets, they
just have to be planned well.
Paul.
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Michael Darragh
Garry writes
>>No. It just suggests that most people in that line of work are just as
much
>>out of touch with the real world as what Triple J is!!
I think that's a little harsh. Did I say anyone who listened to 2UE or Mix
106.5 was out of touch. I don't make such judgements. But the radio stations
themselves are out of touch with the youth market.
If I'm out of touch, then why was the organisation I work for the producer
of two of 1997's most popular and awarded motion pictures: The Full Monty
and Titanic?
Cheers
MICHAEL
Ty Frost
As to the below comment Paul...I don't know about other markets but the
Albury/Wodonga market you refer to, doesn't feel threatened by JJJ at all..
In the rest AGB McNair Figures..all ages 10+ all day parts.
B104.9 34.0
JJJ 7.4
and I think you'll find the figures improve even more in the "Commercial
Stations" target audience.
And to say that it pushes down our advertising dollar?? HOW? Even if JJJ
did rate better...Clients still can't spend their money with them. They've
still gotta spend money with the commercial station, dont' they?
Ty Frost
me...@mpx.com.au
fro...@radiob1049.com.au
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Paul Dwerryhouse wrote in message <6j33lq$58j$1...@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>...
Jack McCaw
Paul Dwerryhouse (pa...@xenu.ee.mu.oz.au) wrote:
: I have noticed, in this newsgroup, that a large percentage of those involved
: with commercial radio have more than a fair degree of resentment towards
: Triple-J.
Paul, I will take a wild stab in the dark here... Most of the
people you are talking about are over 25. I have found the majority of
middle class 25+ commercial radio personnel are personally repulsed by
Triple J.
In fact most of the over 25's are repulsed by Triple J.
: I suspect that a lot of this is because small regional operators with a
: captive market do not like the threat it poses to what they consider to
: be a God-given monopoly of theirs.
Not quite.
: My message to those regional operators is this: _you have brought it upon
: yourselves_. I have listened to regional commercial stations from most
: of Victoria (esp Shepparton, Wangaratta, Alburty/Wodonga, Bendigo), most of
: NSW, Gold & Sunshine Coasts and Tasmania, and by and large they _all_ have
: the same bland boring format. Is it any wonder that you're losing chunks
: of your audience to Triple-J?
The problem is that they aren't losing many at all. People that
they are already broadcasting to are absolutely disgusted by Triple J
music...
: It may not be large chunks you're losing - but it's enough to push down your
: advertising revenue to get you worried and create scapegoats.
Ummmm... no - the reason they might be losing advertising revenue
is that it is migrating to newspapers.
: During those four hours there was:
:
: * no Khe Sanh
: * no Phil Collins
: * no Spice Girls
: * no annoying "cash-calls"
: * no football
: * no death notices
Sorry - the majority of Australians who listen to radio WANT that,
they don't want to hear the words "fuck", "shit" or anything with more
than three syllables in it.
Commercial radio is muzak with ads. that is - it puts in enough
music to keep the listener there, to here the ads, and not play anything
'offensive to the ear or morals'.
:Instead I heard a good four hours of music that I'm unlikely to hear elsewhere,
: because your average regional operator is so conservative their playlist
: consists purely of Top-40 + 60's, 70's & 80's
That is because that is what their audience wants!!!!
:
: Yes, there are shows and announcers on Triple-J that I dislike. And I do get
: annoyed at its Sydney-centricity. But I'd rather a national station with a
: variety of different programs than the cloned bland rubbish that is Regional
: Commercial Radio in Australia. And until regional operators are willing to
: produce programming that is more diverse, I'll be listening to the ABC.
I switch between stations - commercial, Triple J, community, radio
national etc to tune into specific programs. I am unusual. Most ausience
members in regional markets buy a radio tune and then leave it there. they
do not channel surf, or explore.
: But look on the bright side. Some may consider Triple-J to be taking their
: "turf", as it were, with Government funding. But if I was in Government,
: I'd open every available frequency in all locations to anyone who wished to
: have a go at it, thus breaking what are effectively government "subsidies"
: to regional commercial operators.
Hello - that sounds like the ABA and the LAPs to me... The S.39s
got out there first, and now there are community licences going up
everywhere.
Hang on - community broadcasters CAN get some of those advertising
dollars, can't they?
: Consider yourselves lucky that you only have one competitor. And with the
: lack of government funding available for the ABC, that shouldn't be too
: difficult for regionals to compete with, should it?
:
: You can't get rid of it now. Learn to live with it. Produce better programs.
: Play different music. Drop your canned "Top 40" programs on weekends
: (especially if you play more than one of them). Get announcers that are
: intelligent. Throw in some researched programming on topics other than
: music and sport.
:
Why? The listeners don't want that, so it is a waste of money.
Right?
Jack@!
Dean P
?????????MMMmmm that makes alot of sense....not!
>
> Cheers
> MICHAEL
Dean P
Paul Dwerryhouse wrote:
>
> Garry Beattie <gar...@4kz.com.au> writes:
>
> >No. It just suggests that most people in that line of work are just as much
> >out of touch with the real world as what Triple J is!!
>
> >like most University activist's!!)
>
> >> Ultimately the J is a youth radio station and if it keeps kids entertained
> >> and encourages thought and fosters young musicians, well surely that's a
> >> good thing.
> >>
>
> >Congratulations. I agree with you completley on that.
>
> Garry, I do not feel that is an entirely fair assessment of Triple-J (ok,
> you didn't say it, but you agreed with it). It assumes that the majority
> of Triple-J's audience are "kids" (ie, say under-18). Aside from the 7pm-10pm
> slot
which JJJ doesn't do that well in !!!
"kids" tend to be at school, hence can't listen. Therefore Triple-J
> must do a little more than keep the "kids" entertained.
>
> I have noticed, in this newsgroup, that a large percentage of those involved
> with commercial radio have more than a fair degree of resentment towards
> Triple-J.
Probably triggered by narrow minded comments similair to the ones that I
have read
>
> I suspect that a lot of this is because small regional operators with a
> captive market do not like the threat it poses to what they consider to
> be a God-given monopoly of theirs.
JJJ a threat...not in the real radio world, only in the eyes of their
fans..
>
> My message to those regional operators is this: _you have brought it upon
> yourselves_. I have listened to regional commercial stations from most
> of Victoria (esp Shepparton, Wangaratta, Alburty
Albury with a 't'...shit we better change all the signs in town..they
say Albury
/Wodonga, Bendigo), most of
> NSW, Gold & Sunshine Coasts and Tasmania, and by and large they _all_ have
> the same bland boring format. Is it any wonder that you're losing chunks
> of your audience to Triple-J?
Losing chunks of our audience...sorry to spoil the party but you'll find
it's actually the other way around in most regional centres. Sure people
went and sampled but they're back. Perhaps we are doing it right. I'd
look forward to seeing figures where in any regional market, or any
market for that matter where the J's have scored the top spot...
>
> It may not be large chunks you're losing - but it's enough to push down your
> advertising revenue to get you worried and create scapegoats.
JJJ pushing down advertising revenue...how.. you can't buy a spot on
them. If you had the knowledge you would be aware that advertisers don't
look at the non commercial figures, they are of no use, they look at the
commercial share.
>
> I'll give you one good reason that I listen to Triple-J.
>
> Yesterday (Saturday) 10am->2pm. Announcer is Robbie Buck. He is a no
> nonsense presenter, speaks clearly, seems to have a good knowledge of the
> music he's playing. This is some of Triple-J's best.
>
> During those four hours there was:
>
> * no Khe Sanh
> * no Phil Collins
> * no Spice Girls
> * no annoying "cash-calls"
> * no football
> * no death notices
>
> [I'm sure I could list a _lot_ more].
>
> Instead I heard a good four hours of music that I'm unlikely to hear elsewhere,
> because your average regional operator is so conservative their playlist
> consists purely of Top-40 + 60's, 70's & 80's (ok Mobbsy, I realise there are
> the occasional exceptions). I heard film reviews by people who aren't afraid
> of losing advertising revenue when they criticise films that genuinly deserve
> to be criticised. And, finally, I get mostly live programming (or, at worst, a
> delayed feed. No computer driven shows here...)
>
> Yes, there are shows and announcers on Triple-J that I dislike. And I do get
> annoyed at its Sydney-centricity. But I'd rather a national station with a
> variety of different programs than the cloned bland rubbish that is Regional
> Commercial Radio in Australia. And until regional operators are willing to
> produce programming that is more diverse, I'll be listening to the ABC.
You're in the minority, people want localism on the radio, JJJ's
national satellite feed is bullshit! People actually do care what is
happening in their own backyards, the news, the weather...
>
> But look on the bright side. Some may consider Triple-J to be taking their
> "turf", as it were, with Government funding. But if I was in Government,
> I'd open every available frequency in all locations to anyone who wished to
> have a go at it, thus breaking what are effectively government "subsidies"
> to regional commercial operators.
What a load of crap...yer throw it all open...you really are a moron.
>
> Consider yourselves lucky that you only have one competitor.
One competitor...which market are you referring to???
And with the
> lack of government funding available for the ABC, that shouldn't be too
> difficult for regionals to compete with, should it?
As I said...who's acually losing to the ABC?????? Name some stations1
>
> You can't get rid of it now. Learn to live with it. Produce better programs.
> Play different music. Drop your canned "Top 40" programs on weekends
> (especially if you play more than one of them). Get announcers that are
> intelligent. Throw in some researched programming on topics other than
> music and sport.
>
> These things all _can_ be done within the constraints of your budgets, they
> just have to be planned well.
Your suggestions above are suicide!! In Albury / Wodonga...B104.9 =
34's, JJJ = 7's, it wouldn't appear particularly intelligent to follow
your suggestions!
JJJ certainly has a place, but it is a little naive to think commercial
operators would follow what they are doing, what would be the point.
Listeners vote with their pens in survey books and I'm yet to see a
survey where JJJ provide a real threat.
Could so many commercial programmers have got it wrong all this time..I
think not
Dean Pickering
Peter Mobbs
In article <6j33lq$58j$1...@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, pa...@xenu.ee.mu.oz.au says...
>You can't get rid of it now. Learn to live with it. Produce better programs.
>Play different music. Drop your canned "Top 40" programs on weekends
>(especially if you play more than one of them). Get announcers that are
>intelligent. Throw in some researched programming on topics other than
>music and sport.
Isn't Austerile doing this in the metro markets, canned Top 40 w/e shows, non
stop footy and crap music ?
Is there such a thing as an intelligent announcer <snicker>
Peter Mobbs
www.krock.net.au
Nick Weare
If I'm out of touch, then why was the organisation I work for the producer
of two of 1997's most popular and awarded motion pictures: The Full Monty
and Titanic?
Cheers
MICHAEL
I'm sorry!!!!
are you saying that because the Organisation you work for made two popularly
acclaimed movies ( one of which ran hopelessly over budget in the making),
that mean that YOU can take the credit?
I wouldn't presume that you ARE out of touch with youth, but please don't
try and claim that the reason you are "with it" is because you work for the
organisation. I'm not sure if you mean they hired you because they are in
touch, or because you are. and were you in touch before they hitred you or
did that come with the job. Either way it therefore follows that everybody
who works for that organisation is touch with the youth market. and i
may have missed it but what is your place in the organisation, and
especially in relation to the movies
Cheers
NIck
Paul Dengate
Can't let an argument go without adding my thoughts (wanted of not).
I personally don't like Triple J, because I find it boring and a touch
try hard. But I also think all stations need some healthy competition to
keep them on their toes. On the other hand, if we go the American way we
will end up with 10 stations being run by 5 people (and they'll boast
about it!)
I feel Triple J serves a purpose because it does provide a service that
people in regional (and metro) areas do listen to. It may not be local,
but I don't agree that local is king. Local is important, but so is good
radio. Bad local radio probably won't beed good networked radio. Good
local radio probably will.
In some markets Triple J are up against FM s39s that run from automated
the entire weekend. It is local, but because it is not live I would
suggest it is much like having a CD jukebox, just with crap ads in the
middle (to be fair some people can automate better than others). At least
on Triple J it is live and you get to hear a real person. The other
problem you have with automation (and anyone who has voiced an automation
shift will know this), is that trying to make every break in a 6 hour
shift sound interesting is damned hard when you are doing the whole thing
in 20 minutes (while you are on the air).
I am sure the listeners don't want a return to the days of a single AM
station in most regional markets.
So I say whether you like it or not, it is filling a void in the market.
It may not be a huge void, but there is a place for Triple J nonetheless.
If you don't like it, don't program it into your presets!
Dean P
Paul Dengate wrote:
>
> Can't let an argument go without adding my thoughts (wanted of not).
>
> I personally don't like Triple J, because I find it boring and a touch
> try hard. But I also think all stations need some healthy competition to
> keep them on their toes. On the other hand, if we go the American way we
> will end up with 10 stations being run by 5 people (and they'll boast
> about it!)
>
> I feel Triple J serves a purpose because it does provide a service that
> people in regional (and metro) areas do listen to. It may not be local,
> but I don't agree that local is king. Local is important, but so is good
> radio. Bad local radio probably won't beed good networked radio. Good
> local radio probably will.
You may be interseted to know in our latest perceptual in the 25 to 39
demo local issues came in 2nd to favourite music to the 'what is the
most important thing for you when listening to the radio'. In the 40 to
54 year demo local issues ranked higher (and number 1) than favourite
music!!
Jack McCaw
Dean P (de...@mpx.com.au) wrote:
: Paul Dengate wrote:
: You may be interseted to know in our latest perceptual in the 25 to 39
: demo local issues came in 2nd to favourite music to the 'what is the
: most important thing for you when listening to the radio'. In the 40 to
: 54 year demo local issues ranked higher (and number 1) than favourite
: music!!
Will this see a return to local news, live coverage of special
events, and local community announcements?
If something major happened, and people needed to be informed of
something that was particularly local, what would happen after 10pm at
night? If the local radio station is unmanned and networked from 7pm until
6am... tooo bad?
Local issues on a FM station - not gonna happen on "The Heat"
network! Spice Girls, Chumbawamba and playing Khe San, fine. Dealing with
local issues - forget it!
The commercial stations are maximum music, minimum talk that isn't
ads. Doesn't matter what the perceptuals say - the regionals are networked
and gonna stay that way. Makes sense to just put a 100 CD stacker on
random and insert ads between songs.
Makes money too!
And THAT is what is important!
Jack@!
Dean P
Jack McCaw wrote:
>
> Dean P (de...@mpx.com.au) wrote:
> : Paul Dengate wrote:
> : You may be interseted to know in our latest perceptual in the 25 to 39
> : demo local issues came in 2nd to favourite music to the 'what is the
> : most important thing for you when listening to the radio'. In the 40 to
> : 54 year demo local issues ranked higher (and number 1) than favourite
> : music!!
>
> Will this see a return to local news, live coverage of special
> events, and local community announcements?
In Albury / Wodonga...YES!!
> If something major happened, and people needed to be informed of
> something that was particularly local, what would happen after 10pm at
> night? If the local radio station is unmanned and networked from 7pm until
> 6am... tooo bad?
Not sure in other markets, in Albury / Wodonga the info will be on air!
>
> Local issues on a FM station - not gonna happen on "The Heat"
> network! Spice Girls, Chumbawamba and playing Khe San, fine. Dealing with
> local issues - forget it!
>
> The commercial stations are maximum music, minimum talk that isn't
> ads. Doesn't matter what the perceptuals say - the regionals are networked
Not all of them!
Joel Dickins
tell TNG to go back to school!
Dennis C Stallard
i agree jjj rules
Michael Darragh <bg...@tig.com.au> wrote in article
<6imf0c$eal$1...@newsource.ihug.co.nz>...
> In my opinion, Triple J is the most interesting station on radio. And
while
> it might not rate well (as if they put meters in student dorms or
transient
> inner-city households), I have noticed an increasing number of businesses
> using Triple J for hold music, indicating this is the station listened to
in
> their offices.
>
> Needless to say these businesses are typically theatre and production
> companies, graphic design houses and other artistic places that I
typically
> deal with. But surely that suggests that places of thought, creativity
and
> individuality opt for a radio station which plays new music and inspires
> debate on a *huge* variety of topics.
>
> To say that Triple J listeners think they know everything is incorrect.
> People in my generation (sadly labelled gen x) are craving for reasons
and
> explanations to everything and Triple J is great for that. Especially
when
> the alternative is to be spoon-fed garbage by bigoted old farts or listen
to
> the self-indulgent humour of supposed comedians.
>
> Triple J encourages its audience to think globally and be accepting of
> others but apart from that it lets listeners make their own decisions
while
> paying close attention to the ever-changing changing demands of its
various
> markets.
>
> The presenters are never blatantly left wing which is a common perception
> (then again, a majority of young people have always preferred left wing
> politics). If the J did preach to me on topics such as politics I would
not
> listen. In a recent interview with David Kemp (Education Minister) to
> discuss the Government's planned alterations to University funding, I was
> delighted by the interviewer's complete objectivity despite the fact most
> listeners would want her to rip him to shreds.
>
> My only gripe with the J is that it's nationwide. In some respects I
think
> this limits it from fully meeting the music demands of respective
markets.
> By that I mean the music I listen to and enjoy in inner Sydney, where I
> live, is a lot different to the music of choice in my hometown of Hervey
> Bay, Qld. This nationwide status probably explains the popularity of
youth
> stations such as Wild FM in Sydney and other community radio stations.
>
> Ultimately the J is a youth radio station and if it keeps kids
entertained
> and encourages thought and fosters young musicians, well surely that's a
> good thing.
>
> Anyway, that's my opinion.
>
>