2SM Good Guys
Alski
Bob Rogers
Mike Walsh..
Where were Bill Drake and George Wayne in all this?
Al
samuel....@optusnet.com.au
speak) - Was he at 2SM? I know for a fact he left 2WG Wagga to join 2JJ
in '69. Holger Brokmann alias Bill Drake wasn't at 2SM till later I
think.
ColorRadio
The original team featured Bob Rogers and Mike Walsh...that was in the 60's
and the second era commenced about 1978 or 79 and featured Bill Drake
(Holger Brockman) and George Wayne.
In the 60's other members of that team were MBR, Tony Murphy (now 4BC), and
John Mahon, plus Mad Mel.
In the 70's Ian McRae did breakfast, George Moore in the mornings, various
people during the era afternoons, John Torv in drive, several people at
night, including a return stint by Mad Mel.
I would imagine Wayne Mac will have greater details in his wonderful book.
I also remember in the early nineties when Ken Sparks was at 2SM and they
were looking for a direction, at one stage some of the announcers started
referring to themselves as Good Guys...but I dont think it necessarily had
the blessing of management..
Cheers
Gail
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Yes, Rogers and Walsh were in the first line up of 1963. No on Drake
(Holger Brockmann) he joined in '73.
George Wayne on the other hand (aka Groover Wayne) joined in 1969 and
was part of what's was known among SM junkies as 'Good Guys Mk II'
(1969-70).
Cheers
MAC
samuel....@optusnet.com.au
go to 2JJ can't be correct as JJ weren't on-air in 69 - must have been
that he left to go to 2SM.
DontTouchThatDial
That'd be right Samuel. GW actually came off air at SM in 1972 then
based himself in London for a time. He returned for Oz doing a bit of
concert promotion before accepting the 2JJ gig. George, along with the
aforementioned Holger Brockmann, were founding members of the JJ team
in 1975.
The thing to remember in any of this SM trivia is that nearly 'everyone
who was anyone' in Aust radio since the '50s has some connection to
2SM. My research (see my book later) shows that if one was to do a
construct 'family tree' of Australian radio employees the links back to
SM would be greatest in number.
Perhaps that's why out of all Australian call signs people continue to
discuss SM's merits and/or failures.
MAC
samuel....@optusnet.com.au
> aforementioned Holger Brockmann, were founding members of the JJ team
> in 1975.
As was Alan McGirvan who had been at 2KO (and 2HD?) prior.
ColorRadio
remember him at 2KO).
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one stage and I think Holger Brockmann was on 4bk for a while aswell Ted
Thirkill
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Barton, Mike Jefferys and Gray Clark) - think he then jumped to HD.
Others on-air at 2KO during that era were Phil Hunter, Rod Spargo,
David Mulley, Cliff Musgave, Tony "Music" Williams, "Big Steve" Wakely,
Malcolm T Elliott and John Jones to name a few. Studio Manager was Ron
Gibson. Pat Barton was also PD.
BearCave
The "Good Guys" concept dates back to New York radio of the 1960s,
where it was first proven to be a ratings success.
>From the web site - http://musicradio.computer.net/wmca/:
"The WMCA Good Guys. From late 1960 until 1970, WMCA was one of New
York City's top radio stations. "Built on showmanship", the station
played top 40 music during the glory days of mass appeal Top 40 radio.
It reached the baby boomers at their teenage peak and along the way
distributed thousands of sweatshirts imprinted with a smiley faced logo
to an enthusiastic audience that drove the station to ratings records.
WMCA was owned by the Straus family. It was strictly an independent
radio station with no network affiliation. The decision to move toward
a top 40 music format was a difficult one for the family. R. Peter
Straus, who was running the station, was more interested in owning a
talk station. But, thanks to the skills of the people he hired, the
station took a very different direction for ten years and in the
process created one of the most memorable New York radio stations
ever."
Always an AM station, it is now a Christian broadcaster.
BearCave
BearCave wrote:
> The "Good Guys" concept dates back to New York radio of the 1960s,
> where it was first proven to be a ratings success.
>
> >From the web site - http://musicradio.computer.net/wmca/:
This link will work:
DontTouchThatDial
Hey Samuel,
I look fwd to YOUR book on Newcastle radio triva. You're the Man!
But how did we get from discussing the original 2SM Good Guys of 1963
to Alan McGirvan in just a handfull of posts?
Anyway, yes, Alan Mac was at 2KO prior to 2HD. He also appeared as a
7HO Good Guy approx '67 under the name: Tony Warrick. It's all in the
book.
Msg to Ted. McGirvan wasn't a Good Guy at 4IP. He arrived in '76
taking over 9-noon from Wayne Roberts who was then bound for Sydney.
4IP actually dispensed with the 'Good Guys' and 'Color Radio' the
previous year upon lauching the now legendary denim/zipper logo. It's
all in the book.
Can't say that Holger was ever at 4BK. In fact I don't think he worked
Brissie at all. Could be wrong. Sydney, Melbourne, Canberra and
Newcastle were his main haunts.
But back to the SM Good Guys, which was the start to this thread.
Anyone want to have a crack at the Good Guys MkII? These were the jocks
assembled by Rod Muir in early 1969 to take the station into their More
Music era. I believe one of the them visits this Newsgroup
ocassionally. Clues: why not?
Again there were three Johns, one Mike, one Ian, one Graham, a Groover
and a Mel.
Your time starts now!
Cheers
MAC
Artie Stevens
I didn't actually get to Sydnay until 1973 so I missed most of that.
Artie
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BearCave wrote:
> The "Good Guys" concept dates back to New York radio of the 1960s,
> where it was first proven to be a ratings success.
>
(SNIP)
Indeed Justin, it was a U.S. idea and later this month in "Don't Touch
That Dial" you'll be able to find out who was responsible for bringing
the concept back to Australia in 1963 and which stations other than 2SM
took it on in the following year(s).
Cheers
MAC
ColorRadio
John Brennan in the mornings
Geoff Haines
Mike Webb
Groover Wayne
Mad Mel
John Torv
John Burnley
How's that Wayne?
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Artie Stevens wrote:
> Well, the Ian sounds like my mad mate Macca... am I right or am I right?
> I didn't actually get to Sydnay until 1973 so I missed most of that.
Point advantage Artie.
Well that answer takes care of breakfast. But who did mornings, arvo,
drive, night, late night, dawns and floating? It was a big team. All
live 'n' local in those days too.
Cheers
MAC
Artie Stevens
opponent, ask Lleyton.
:-)
Happy New Year Mr Mac. This one is going to be HUGE!
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> McRae for breakfast
> John Brennan in the mornings
> Geoff Haines - mornings (I think he was prior to John Brennan)
> Mike Webb - mid/dawn?
> Groover Wayne - late nights
> Mad Mel - 7/10pm
> John Torv - 4/7pm
> John Burnley - 1/4pm
DontTouchThatDial
> McRae for breakfast
> John Brennan in the mornings
> Geoff Haines
> Mike Webb
> Groover Wayne
> Mad Mel
> John Torv
> John Burnley
>
> How's that Wayne?
A-ha you were there Color Radio person, weren't you?
Actually, Haynes left before they got really serious about the More
Music thing. The line up for most of '69 was, as you say, Macca and
Brenno in mornings.
John's Burnley and Torv did arvo and drive. Mel was 7-10, Groover
10-1am, with Mike Webb and Graham Roberts taking care of the dawns.
There were others who came on board later in the year, e.g. Phil
Haldeman returned to take over from Mel (who was sacked) and a young
dawner came down from 4BH. He did very well for himself at SM, and
later as a newman on MMM and 2DAY. Who was that?
Cheers
MAC
DontTouchThatDial
its_just_not_radio wrote:
> Was it not the Mighty Whitey?
>
But of course. And wasn't he just the shot on SM? One of my favourite
DJs of all time.
And before I sign off as today's Quizmaster, it never ceases to amaze
me that the minute one of the great (historic) names of Aust radio is
mentioned here - either a person or a station - this newsgroup goes
into overdrive. And people wonder why I bothered writing a book about
the old days!
Cheerio
MAC
www.waynemac.com
ColorRadio
often. I loved that station - it set the standard - they placed a lot of
effort into productions and that was before they had the advantage of
computers, so they definitely had very talented production people also.
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Macca
The 70's team at 2SM were NEVER known as The Good Guys. Nor did they
ever refer to themselves on air as such.
The Good Guys were the 60's lot...Mike Walsh etc.
Hope that's in the book Wayne!
Cheers,
Ian MacRae
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names)b They were most certainly good guys
Then there was a Bad Guy called Ted Randal
A US Radio consultant
He introduced KING RADIO and
it killed 2SM Stone Dead
Everyone knew what a Queen was but a KING ?
I think I was the Last Good Guy hired by Brenno
I went on the Capital in London, Radio Hauraki in NZ and the
Peace Ship in Israel
bloomoo
known as the Sound Guys apparently before my time I am afraid. Holger
Brockman did work in Brisbane I guess early 70's could be wrong with the
timing but almost certain it was at 4BK. Cheers all have a great New Year.
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Got it covered Macca. Thanks.
But I must remind you of the time you 'Guys' were photographed wearing
yellow promo jackets and Maltese crosses - high fashion in '69! As the
sign on the photo says: Tune to 2SM and listen to the Good Guys and Mad
Mel.
Cheers
Wayne
DontTouchThatDial
> I worked with Barry,Phil,Big Sam,Tony, Mike ( Fill in their last
> names)b They were most certainly good guys
>
> Then there was a Bad Guy called Ted Randal
> A US Radio consultant
>
> He introduced KING RADIO and
> it killed 2SM Stone Dead
Hi Keith,
King Radio on 2SM ey? When I interviewed Brenno for the book he was
not pleased to talk about this period in 1966.
You mention Ted Randal. There's a photo of him in the book taken with
the 6PR Good Guys in 1968. Barry Martin (one of the above you mention)
is also in the pic along with another young up and comer who later made
his way to the Big SM, Gordon O'Byrne.
Cheers
MAC
John T
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> often. I loved that station - it set the standard - they placed a lot of
> effort into productions and that was before they had the advantage of
> computers, so they definitely had very talented production people also.
The days of razors 'n' splicing tape with tape to tape overdubbing eh? ;-)
samuel....@optusnet.com.au
I think that we will take that as said mate - you were never a good guy
- just a brilliant one.
I for one would like to place on record my sincere gratitude for
providing us with wonderful radio at 2SM.
Regards,
Sam
DontTouchThatDial
Yes, here here Sam!
Your post once again shows just how much this station and its people
are regarded by those who love good radio. That's not to take away
from other stations who enjoy periods of 'greatness' through the years.
And there were a few of them in different places.
The thing is - and I say this in my book: a radio station is only 'real
estate with a call sign'. It is people (like Ian) that bring a station
to life and give it meaning. 2SM could well have been just another call
sign on the dial - as it is now - but its memorable periods are
intrinsically linked to people.
Regards
MAC
ColorRadio
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late 70s when they went into a format that today would probably be
called a classic rock/hits style. They went with a summer to remember
theme in 76/77 (I think) complete with $1 Summer to remember caps. They
also brought up David White I think from Sydney. it was a time when the
late Geoff Atkinson had been doing breakky for years and was moved to
drive with the slogan " Out of your corn flakes and into your car". For
some reason my diminsihing brain cells remember those bits if trivia
well!
Des
( desde...@yahoo.com.au )
DontTouchThatDial
radio...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
> You're right, Holger Brockman did work for 4 BK . It was in the mid to
> late 70s when they went into a format that today would probably be
> called a classic rock/hits style. They went with a summer to remember
> theme in 76/77 (I think) complete with $1 Summer to remember caps. They
> also brought up David White I think from Sydney. it was a time when the
> late Geoff Atkinson had been doing breakky for years and was moved to
> drive with the slogan " Out of your corn flakes and into your car". For
> some reason my diminsihing brain cells remember those bits if trivia
> well!
> Des
> ( desde...@yahoo.com.au )
>
I have a disclaimer in my book that goes something like: 'due to patchy
historic records and people's failing memories, the information in the
book is as close-as-possible to accurate'.
As far as the timing you mentioned - this is where is gets interesting.
Atkinson left 4BK in about 1971, in fact he left radio and went into
an altogther different business. A grocery store I'm told. He died in
'79.
The period you're referring to, 'the Summer of 76/77' could be correct
with regard to HB and DW being in Brissie. That period coincides with
4BK being consulted by Rod Muir and Rhett Walker. HB and DW,
associates of Muir, could very well have been posted to 4BK for
short-term assignments as Muir re-shaped BK for the year 1977.
Remember "4BK The Entertainer"?
HB had recently finished a stint with the ill-fated 872GB so he would
have been 'on the market' for a gig at the time.
Anyway, I'll shoot him an email soon and see if we can conclude this
thread.
Regards
MAC
www.waynemac.com
P.S. If in fact you are thinking of 1971...Atkinson etc. The 'David'
jock you remember might have been Dave Anning. He was there through
the period called "4BK: The Rock of Brisbane", circa '72". Many others
floated through in that format e.g. Malcolm T. Elliott, Wayne Roberts,
Roy Jamieson et al. They're all in the book under the 4BK listing in
Part Two.
DontTouchThatDial
radio...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
> You're right, Holger Brockman did work for 4 BK . It was in the mid to
> late 70s when they went into a format that today would probably be
> called a classic rock/hits style.
Hi again Des,
Spoke to a friend yesterday who was at BK at the time if the 'Muir
invasion'. He confirmed that Holger came up for a short while.
Glad we've sorted that.
Now, who will be the next person to throw out a trivia question on this
NG? I know a few posters have expressed a keen interest in 3KZ.
Perhaps name as many of the KZ Most Happy Fellas between the years of,
say, 67-75. Let's start with that great KZ stalwart, Jim Hilcke.
Regards
MAC
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DontTouchThatDial
So do we assume from this you're not a fan of women on air?
MAC
wtb...@optusnet.com.au
the issue you've highlighted.
I support anyone wanting a career in radio, Lord knows how hard it is
to crack a gig these days.