Calling Frequencies and other basic questions
doehme
reading up on the foundation licence As such, I've got a few very
basic questions about making inital contact in the amateur radio
world.
Are specifc call channels/frequencies used on HF, VHF and UHF? I
guess I'm thinking in CB terms here. Is it a similar system of
frequency use or is it just a matter of finding any clear frequency
and putting out a (correctly sructured) CQ call and hoping for the
best? If there are calling freqs, where can I get some info on them
for all bands available to a foundation licencee? I've found the WIA
band plan no problem but unable (so far) to find anything specifically
on calling frequencies (if they even exist).
Also what's the go with GSYing to another frequency after making
contact? Do you basically just make inital contact on a calling freq
then the called station stands by while the caller quickly finds one
that is clear or does the calling station already have a clear
frequency checked out and ready prior to making the CQ call? How far
away from the calling freq do you usually have to go?
Are these procedures different on HF, VHF and UHF?
Also in some of the literature I've been reading it talks about
identifying repeater stations. How are they usually ID'd? Is it just
a matter of knowing that a repeater on a specific frequency is listed
as being on "Mount Whatever" so if you can hear a repeater on that
freq then it must be that repeater?
And finally.... How do you know what DTMF and CTSS control tones are
applicable to what repeaters?
Ok. As I said... basic and dumb questions but someone's got to ask
them.
Thanks in advance.
Dene
toowoomba4350
Yes, specific call frequencies are used, but this is not a hard and
fast rule
The Australian call frequencies for voice (meaning: not morse code
which is also called CW) a foundation member can use are 3.650 ,
7.090 , 21.190 and 28.590 qsy-ing to a different frequency: check
beforehand how clear adjacent frequencies are, if all else fails
change frequency again!
The codes that are applicable to repeaters We talk 2 mtr and 70 cm
here) you can find online, note: most repeaters do NOT have access to
ECHOLINK or IRLP
You can find ALL australian repeaters by a simple google search,or go
to: http://vkham.com/australimaps.html the echolink nodes are on:
http://www.echolink.org/links.jsp and IRLP on http://status.irlp.net/index.php?PSTART=3
The fun part is talking to all sorts of people all over the world with
this, the other day I talked to a guy in the Netherlands which was on
a handheld in his backyard while having a cuppa!
Find your local club and get cracking, you can get your foundation
licence in a week-end, it is rare to fail the exam if you give it a
fair go!
73's
Bert VK4FAPV
vk4tj
as a calling frequency, though 7090 will probably net you more replies
than some of the more obscure frequencies. Simply find a clear
fequency and let fly!
About how far to QSY - We tend to fill the "5's and 0's" first. Only
when the band gets busy do we "splinter", so the short answer is, QSY
a minimum of 5 kHz up or down. 10 kHz is better if you have identified
locals using the "call frequency".
Yes, it is a good idea for one of the QSO partners to go off and check
that the "landing zone" is free, but if you have done a recent scan of
the band, speculative changes are not unheard of.
On VHF, as Bert has hinted, you typically congregate on your (best)
local repeater fequency. It's good practice to go to a simplex
frequency after making contact if you can.
Don't get hung up on tones, etc. They are rare in Australia. The WIA
repeater listing will tell you if you need one.
As far as procedures go, we don't tend to call CQ on VHF. We simply
announce that we are monitoring. Other than that (and going to simplex
if possible), procedures are pretty much the same as HF.
Repeaters usually identify via automated Morse code, though more and
more these days ID on voice, with software-stored announcements. You
might be in trouble relying on the frequency to ID a repeater. In the
summer, 2000 km distance on 2m mtrs in not uncommon. That could take
in a lot of same-frequency repeaters!
Jack VK2CJC
The Australian call frequencies for voice (meaning: not morse code
which is also called CW) a foundation member can use are 3.650 ,
7.090 , 21.190 and 28.590 qsy-ing to a different frequency:
>>>
Can I ask how these frequencies were determined?
The only SSB calling freq listed in the band plans is 28.390. Which is a
recent WIA suggestion to get local traffic off 28.490 (some hope!). So I'm
surprised to see you list 28.590. Is this a convention being suggested to
foundation licensees?
I was aware that 7.090 was used by many, but never heard of the others.
73
Jack
toowoomba4350
As found near the bottom of this page:
http://www.wia.org.au/members/broadcast/wianews/display.php?file_id=wianews-2009-06-21
CALLING FREQUENCIES
Please QSY off the calling frequency after establishing
communication.
Australian voice calling frequencies:
3.650, 7.090, 14.190, 21.190, 28.590, 52.160
World CW calling frequencies:
3.570, 7.030, 14.060, 18.080, 21.140, 24.910, 28.180, 50.160
World voice calling frequencies:
3.690 & 3.940 MHz, 7.090 & 7.190, 14.290, 18.140, 21.360,
24.960, 28.390, 50.160
Calling frequencies for Slow Scan TV (SSTV):
3.630, 7.033, 14.227
Calling Frequencies for PSK31
14.070
that's where I got this from!
73's
Bert
VK4FAPV
toowoomba4350
> On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:05:25 -0700 (PDT), toowoomba4350
>
> <toowoomba4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >World CW calling frequencies:
> >3.570, 7.030, 14.060, 18.080, 21.140, 24.910, 28.180, 50.160
>
>
> 73 de G3NYY
>
> --
> Walt Davidson Email: g3nyy @despammed.com
? did not find that anywhere to be QRP freq's, then again; I'm only
allowed 10 watts for now anyway! lol
Anybody knows other worldwide frequencies; please list! (with source
if possible)
Bert VK4FAPV
Jack VK2CJC
doehme
> As found near the bottom of this page:
>
> CALLING FREQUENCIES
> Please QSY off the calling frequency after establishing
> communication.
I had seen those freq's before but thought they may have been some
"Scouts Only" agreement and not really applicable to the wider
community. Do those frequencies coincide with what most people seem
to regularly use?
Thanks
Dene
vk4tj
vk4tj
frequencies. Not far off the more common HF frequencies, with a couple
of exceptions. 15 & 10 mtrs are so dead most days that call
frequencies are of considerable value. Assuming you would like to try
your hand at some overseas contacts:
15: try 21280 or 21290. Informal DX call channel
10: Yes, they are trying to establish a domestic call channel on
28390, but old habits die hard, and 28490 (the "DX" call channel)
still takes the brunt of the random calls. Be sure to move off either
one once you establish contact.
Don't even worry about call frequencies below 15 mtrs. Find a clear
frequency sanctioned by the WIA band plan, and let fly!
You will find that there are an enormous number of nets on both 80 &
40 mtrs. They are a pretty good way to get your feet wet, and be sure
at the same time that you are not stepping on someone else.
I have been told by a couple of my foundation students that there are
a couple of informal nets on 80 mtrs where Foundation licencees are
made to feel unwelcome by the old geezers. Move on! They do not
represent the majority view, and reveal their ignorance with every
press of the PTT.
73 & hope to work you soon
John VK4TJ
toowoomba4350
In a further search I only found US stuff;
See: http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=14967 where cal
frequencies are mentioned
More similar stuff found too in a Google search for call frequencies
Bert VK4FAPV
Kate
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And one last little note, the main SSTV frequency is 14.230, with a repeater
in VK4 on 14.236. There's also a repeater on 7.053 in VK5.
Kate vk4xyl
VK4TI
frequency !
Sorry Kate couldn't help myself :-)
VK4TI
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>I thought 14230 was the international contest calling and operating
>frequency !
>
> Sorry Kate couldn't help myself :-)
>
> VK4TI
>
some damn contester pops up and starts yelling cq contest!!
Kate
(Order re-arranged to eliminate top-posting, couldn't help meself! :-D)
toowoomba4350
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just found this QRP stuff: on http://www.amateur-radio-wiki.net/index.php?title=QRP
Common QRP frequencies
Band Name Calling Frequency Mode
160 Meters 1810 kHz CW
160 Meters 1818 kHz CW
160 Meters 1843 kHz SSB Europe
160 Meters 1910 kHz LSB
80 Meters 3560 kHz CW
80 Meters 3690 kHz SSB Europe
80 Meters 3710 kHz (Novice in USA) CW
80 Meters 3711 kHz (Novice in USA) CW
75 Meters 3985 kHz LSB
40 Meters 7040 kHz CW
40 Meters 7090 kHz SSB Europe
40 Meters 7110 kHz (Novice in USA) CW
40 Meters 7286 kHz LSB
30 Meters 10106 kHz CW
30 Meters 10116 kHz CW
20 Meters 14060 kHz CW
20 Meters 14285 kHz USB
17 Meters 18069 kHz CW
17 Meters 18096 kHz CW
17 Meters 18130 kHz USB
15 Meters 21060 kHz CW
15 Meters 21110 kHz (Novice in USA) CW
15 Meters 21285 kHz SSB Europe
15 Meters 21385 kHz USB
12 Meters 24906 kHz CW
12 Meters 24956 kHz USB
10 Meters 28060 kHz CW
10 Meters 28110 kHz (Novice in USA) CW
10 Meters 28360 kHz SSB Europe
10 Meters 28885 kHz USB
2 Meters 144060 kHz CW
2 Meters 144285 kHz SSB
Also (for CW QRP) see: http://home.alphalink.com.au/~parkerp/qrp/frequencies.htm
Bert
VK4FAPV
I_dont_think_so
decried/authorised list of frequencies. It is merely one group of amateurs
who have picked these frequencies as being where they will congregate, so
there is no legal backing to allow them sole use of those frequencies. In
the end, you use what you want (within the limits of the band plan - which
is of course only a gentlemans agreement - and few of us would qualify for
that).
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